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Home Cooking Dish of the Month (November 2012) - Voting

L.Nightshade Oct 26, 2012 09:48 AM

Welcome to the voting thread for the Home Cooking Dish of the Month!

There is a lot of interesting discussion on the nomination thread, which you can view here:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/874340

And if you want to take a look at the wonderful Enchiladas being produced in the October Dish of the Month thread, you can visit it here:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/871603

Now it's time to vote for the dish we'll be cooking in November. Please write your vote in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, only one vote per person. Also, please try to reply to this original post when you are voting. It's just easier to count a lot of votes when they are not responses inside of two or three indents. Don't worry or repost if you make a mistake, I'll still find them. And please, if you are discussing a dish after your vote, please keep the dish in lower case. Only one mention in all capitals for your vote.

Here are the three November contenders:

1. GRATINS

2. POT PIES

3. SAVORY PANCAKES

I'd love it if, when voting, you say a little bit about how you visualize the dish, keeping in mind the DOTM criteria, an ingredient and a method of preparation. Does a pot pie have gravy? Does a gratin have cheese? What ingredient defines a savory pancake? This won't affect the vote, I just think it will be interesting to see how people imagine and define these dishes.

Voting will remain open until October 30th at 8pm Pacific time, 11pm Eastern time, and 3am October 31st GMT. The reporting thread will go up on November 1st.

  1. L.Nightshade Oct 31, 2012 10:46 PM

    The Savory Pancake reporting thread is now up here:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/875818

    1 Reply
    1. re: L.Nightshade
      PesachBenSchlomo Nov 26, 2012 07:27 AM

      POT PIE

      My pot pie is superficially attractive because of the decorated puff-pastry crust, but that's a trick that will fool only non-foodies. It gets "raves" but I have always known that it's really not so hot, so I can't wait to see what you guys are doing.

    2. c
      charliemyboy Oct 30, 2012 11:21 PM

      SAVORY PANCAKES

      1. DiningDiva Oct 30, 2012 10:55 PM

        What the hell is a savory pancake? Do we even have those in SoCal?

        7 Replies
        1. re: DiningDiva
          deet13 Oct 31, 2012 01:07 AM

          I'll bet that y'all have a better chance of finding one in SoCal than anywhere else in the US.

          Examples of savory pancakes:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okonomiyaki
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injera

          1. re: deet13
            DiningDiva Oct 31, 2012 07:40 AM

            Thank you for the links. In my area injera would be fairly uncommon, we've only got a small handful of places doing African food. Okonomiyaki? That I can probably find.

            I'll just read along this month and see what everyone makes, this isn't really up my culinary alley.

            1. re: DiningDiva
              jen kalb Oct 31, 2012 08:05 AM

              dont know what is up your alley but Im working a lot with the Ottolenghi books these days, and there are several items there that qualify in my mind as savory pancakes, including from Plenty - Sweet potato cakes p. 32,green pancakes with lime butter, page 150, socca (a chickpea griddle bread from the riviera), page 224, and even leek fritters, page 36 since they have batter and are griddle fried. Bahn xeo is another "savory pancake".

              1. re: jen kalb
                mariacarmen Oct 31, 2012 03:02 PM

                i would love to make banh xeo

              2. re: DiningDiva
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                dkennedy Oct 31, 2012 08:16 AM

                DD, when the DOTM thread goes up I am going to post a link for a bunch of websites that discuss savory pancakes and provide recipes for people to try. Enjoy!

                ETA, I live in So. Cal. and there are lots of places to get savory pancakes. The Flavors of India, on Santa Monica Blvd just north of Doheny has a great savory pancake on their menu: Aloo Tikki.

                1. re: dkennedy
                  DiningDiva Oct 31, 2012 10:25 AM

                  San Diego is not exaclty the ethnic food capital of SoCal ;-).

                  I just saw the list of links you posted up-thread. I'll check those out and see if I can't find something that'll turn the crank enough to get me motivated to try them. Definitely open to trying new things, pancakes in any format just don't hold a lot of allure for me.

                  1. re: DiningDiva
                    L.Nightshade Oct 31, 2012 10:56 AM

                    Hope you do try some. Breakfast pancakes don't appeal to me at all, but there are some amazing savory pancakes out there!

          2. L.Nightshade Oct 30, 2012 08:25 PM

            As I count the votes in this very close race, I'm so excited to see the enthusiasm for the nominated dishes.

            In November, the Home Cooking Dish of the Month, in a surprising turnaround, will be:
            SAVORY PANCAKES!

            Or, for some of you, Savoury Pancakes.

            I'll post the reporting thread by November 1st. I predict a very interesting month. Happy cooking!

            6 Replies
            1. re: L.Nightshade
              mariacarmen Oct 30, 2012 09:24 PM

              wow! what a race!

              i'm really ok with that outcome, even though my first choice was pot pie. i'm looking forward to trying out different variations of Okonomiyaki. in fact, i'm going to make the BF go out with me to try one (i'm not sure he's ever had one, and i've only ever had one) so we have a base to compare against.

              This will be good. Thanks Linda!

              1. re: mariacarmen
                gingershelley Oct 31, 2012 09:42 AM

                What you said, MC - tho I have never had an okonomiyaki EVER; but zucchini pancakes, squash and poblano pancakes, and certainly potato are all in minds eye already for the surprise winner.

                1. re: gingershelley
                  mariacarmen Oct 31, 2012 03:15 PM

                  and without reading this entire thread - arepas, cachapas, pupusas, bacalaitos... which although they're called fritters on Wikipedia, they look pretty pancake-ish to me...

                  and bolivian torrejas! i'm bolivian, never even heard of these!
                  http://dinkswithfreetime.blogspot.com...

                  1. re: mariacarmen
                    aching Oct 31, 2012 03:32 PM

                    I was wondering if fritters would count!

              2. re: L.Nightshade
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                dkennedy Oct 31, 2012 09:03 AM

                I will repost this list when the DOTM thread is up, but for now, here are some websites you can look at to get your creative Savory Pancake ideas flowing:

                http://www.tastespotting.com/tag/savory+pancakes

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/654071

                http://hungerhunger.blogspot.com/2011/04/scallion-pancakes-revisited.html

                http://hungerhunger.blogspot.com/2011/03/korean-potato-pancakes-gamja-jeon.html

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/861012

                http://noteatingoutinny.com/2009/07/17/savory-chickpea-flour-pancakes-at-the-indian-culinary-institute/

                http://www.lovelylanvin.com/2012/01/30/okonomiyaki-japanese-savory-pancake-osaka-style/

                http://www.vrg.org/journal/vj2009issue2/2009_issue2_pancakes.php

                http://www.buzzle.com/articles/scallion-pancakes.html

                http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2011/01/14/dining/20110119-pancakes.html

                http://www.thekitchn.com/skip-the-syrup-6-savory-pancakes-for-breakfast-or-dinner-167153

                http://www.rotinrice.com/2010/01/chinese-savory-pancakes/

                http://food52.com/recipes/17240_kutabi_azerbaijani_savory_pancakes_filled_with_greens_and_herbs

                http://www.yummly.com/recipes/savory-onion-pancakes

                http://spicediary.com/2011/03/08/spicy-indian-pancakes-besan-ka-puda/

                http://foodandspice.blogspot.com/2012/08/rice-and-lentil-indian-pancakes.html

                http://justhungry.com/okonomiyaki-osaka-style

                http://www.yummly.com/recipes/italian...

                1. re: dkennedy
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                  Goblin Oct 31, 2012 03:27 PM

                  Ok, I am looking at some of these links and I am getting very excited about savory pancakes even though I didn't vote for them! Thank, dkennedy!

              3. L.Nightshade Oct 30, 2012 08:08 PM

                Voting is now closed.
                I will be recounting the votes, to make sure we are not looking at a runoff.
                Stay tuned...

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                1. re: L.Nightshade
                  d
                  dkennedy Oct 30, 2012 08:17 PM

                  This was a very exciting race, with lots of exciting tops and turns. I can't believe how many people came out of the woodwork at the last minute in support of my dear SPs.

                  I will be participating ether way. I am really enjoying this new DOTM concept. I don't think I would have ever made an enchilada if not for this challenge. Now I have made them three times this month and I even bought a cookbook because of its enchilada recipes. I hope as time goes by I continue to be motivated by DOTM.

                  Thanks for facilitating this LN.

                2. d
                  dkennedy Oct 30, 2012 08:02 PM

                  Now voting really is closed, right?

                  1. g
                    Goblin Oct 30, 2012 07:16 PM

                    Ok, I'm being insufferably pedantic (see below--also kinda late; Sandy has kept me off-line ) but I would like to nominate GRATINS.
                    All the options sound really flavorful and would be delicious for cool-weather cookery. I like the idea of gratins because they can slumber away in the oven and don't require much supervision once they are created--no rolling out of a dough-crust or pancake-attention.

                    (From our friend, Chef Wikipedia):
                    Gratin (French pronunciation: [ɡʁaˈtɛ̃]) is a widespread culinary technique in food preparation in which an ingredient is topped with a browned crust, often using breadcrumbs, grated cheese, egg
                    and/or butter. Gratin originated in French cuisine and is usually prepared in a shallow dish of some kind. A gratin is baked or cooked under an overhead grill or broiler to form a golden crust on top and is traditionally served in its baking dish.
                    A gratin dish refers to the shallow oven-proof container traditionally used to prepare gratins and similar dishes.

                    1. pilinut Oct 30, 2012 07:06 PM

                      SAVORY PANCAKES! Gallettes. . . Omelettes. . . Okonomiyaki. . . Filipino Okoy. . .and innumerable other goodies!

                      1. g
                        gimlis1mum Oct 30, 2012 06:50 PM

                        under the wire...SAVORY PANCAKES!

                        1. r
                          rasputina Oct 30, 2012 02:21 PM

                          GRATINS

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                          1. re: rasputina
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                            dkennedy Oct 30, 2012 03:25 PM

                            It is very exciting watching the #s go back and forth! Come on SPs!

                            1. re: dkennedy
                              Cynsa Oct 30, 2012 03:28 PM

                              It's a horse race to the line... please vote in ALL CAPS.
                              Voting will remain open October 30th until 8pm Pacific time, 11pm Eastern time, and 3am October 31st GMT.

                              1. re: Cynsa
                                mariacarmen Oct 30, 2012 06:02 PM

                                Hey are you taking over for L.Nightshade, Cynsa? or just being a helpful good citizen?
                                : )

                                1. re: mariacarmen
                                  Cynsa Oct 31, 2012 02:47 PM

                                  just nudging, mariacarmen - I would NEVER impose upon the domain of L. Nightshade. Sorry if I have overstepped the boundaries. :^(

                                  1. re: Cynsa
                                    mariacarmen Oct 31, 2012 03:07 PM

                                    oh please don't apologize Cynsa! i thought maybe L.Nightshade had gone on vaca.

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                            limoen Oct 30, 2012 02:05 PM

                            I still have time to vote, and although I feel bad for voting before and then not cooking (moved house that month...no time, no internet!), I'd really like to try some SAVOURY PANCAKE recipes this month.

                            2 Replies
                            1. re: limoen
                              mariacarmen Oct 30, 2012 02:13 PM

                              ooooh L.Nightshade, look, savory pancakes maybe edging out potpies! who's going to win this horserace?

                              1. re: mariacarmen
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                                limoen Oct 30, 2012 02:28 PM

                                I'm not really a fan of pot pies so I hope so...

                            2. rabaja Oct 30, 2012 12:36 PM

                              SAVORY PANCAKES!!!

                              A month of pot pie would leave me with too much pie in my pot.

                              1. L.Nightshade Oct 30, 2012 11:45 AM

                                This is a very tight race and every vote counts! Just a reminder that voting is indeed open until 8pm Pacific time tonight, October 30th (I checked a calendar this time). If you are still on the fence, now is the time to decide.

                                1. d
                                  DCLindsey Oct 30, 2012 10:19 AM

                                  SAVORY PANCAKES - just saw a great one for pumpkin and grain. Yum!

                                  1. GretchenS Oct 30, 2012 09:32 AM

                                    pot pie people, time to rally!!!!!!!!! go knock on doors, call your friends... :)

                                    1 Reply
                                    1. re: GretchenS
                                      gingershelley Oct 30, 2012 10:35 AM

                                      Seriously, what my sister GS said, keep that pot pie pastry lid on this competition:)!

                                    2. g
                                      gritsandgreens Oct 30, 2012 09:04 AM

                                      SAVORY PANCAKES. Known in Southern vernacular as fritters, this utility dish uses batter as a vehicle for transporting bits of produce into either sweet or savory concoctions. Okra pancakes would be a nice representation. Also, sweet potato and onion pancakes would demonstrate the use of sweet potatoes as a less familiar savory dish.

                                      1. d
                                        dimsumgirl Oct 30, 2012 06:28 AM

                                        Savory Pancakes please

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                                        1. re: dimsumgirl
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                                          dkennedy Oct 30, 2012 06:48 AM

                                          oh, all the savory pancakes votes are coming in too late.

                                          1. re: dkennedy
                                            DuchessNukem Oct 30, 2012 07:10 AM

                                            Lol, our dear Madame Nightshade had a small date error -- we have till tonight to pancake up. :)

                                          2. re: dimsumgirl
                                            Cynsa Oct 30, 2012 07:45 AM

                                            Vote in ALL CAPS, please

                                            1. re: dimsumgirl
                                              d
                                              dkennedy Oct 30, 2012 08:01 AM

                                              Dimsumgirl, please rewrite your vote in all caps so your vote counts. Everyone else, rally the pancake troops-we have a little more time!

                                              1. re: dkennedy
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                                                dimsumgirl Oct 30, 2012 09:09 AM

                                                SAVORY PANCAKES!

                                            2. RWCFoodie Oct 30, 2012 03:13 AM

                                              SAVORY PANCAKES

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                                              1. re: RWCFoodie
                                                DuchessNukem Oct 30, 2012 05:27 AM

                                                Wooo! More savory p's! Yay!

                                                I was fooled by the "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN" headline but we can still pull off this campaign. Strap on your graters and oil up your griddles! We fry at dawn!

                                              2. delys77 Oct 29, 2012 10:16 PM

                                                POT PIE

                                                1. blue room Oct 29, 2012 08:32 PM

                                                  Did I miss something--? the voting has closed one day early?

                                                  1 Reply
                                                  1. re: blue room
                                                    L.Nightshade Oct 29, 2012 08:48 PM

                                                    Oh gosh blue room, you are right! I thought today was the 30th!

                                                  2. L.Nightshade Oct 29, 2012 08:03 PM

                                                    Edited post:
                                                    Sorry for the premature closure! I got it into my head that today was the 30th.

                                                    Please continue to vote!

                                                    1. DuchessNukem Oct 29, 2012 05:55 PM

                                                      Ah, gingershelley, you and your potpie tribe wanna throwdown lol!?! Team Savory Pancake, ACTIVATE! Shape of... a savory pancake! Form of... a savory pancake!

                                                      ;)

                                                      (Edited: Get to voting, pancake volk. LOL)

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                                                      1. re: DuchessNukem
                                                        boyzoma Oct 29, 2012 06:23 PM

                                                        Wow, you guys are just too funny. Where is my team gratin?!?!?!?!

                                                        1. re: boyzoma
                                                          linguafood Oct 29, 2012 06:33 PM

                                                          Seriously. I already voted.

                                                          1. re: linguafood
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                                                            tartetatin Oct 29, 2012 07:25 PM

                                                            SAVORY PANCAKE

                                                            1. re: tartetatin
                                                              DuchessNukem Oct 29, 2012 08:25 PM

                                                              Damned fine roll under the wire there tartetatin. Strong work.

                                                              Though the PotPie-ers have placed a crusty pastry lid on this coming month, The Savory Pancakers are regrouping and assembling new troops. (Thinking January or Feb.) We shall yet triumph!

                                                              1. re: DuchessNukem
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                                                                dkennedy Oct 29, 2012 08:27 PM

                                                                I hope we do regroup- would love a Savory Pancake month! But pot pies will be nice with what with the turkey leftovers and all.

                                                                1. re: dkennedy
                                                                  DuchessNukem Oct 29, 2012 08:30 PM

                                                                  Lol. We shall return, Field Marshal dkennedy. But yes, turkey pot pie is a healing poultice for our stomach wounds.

                                                                2. re: DuchessNukem
                                                                  gingershelley Oct 30, 2012 10:33 AM

                                                                  Hey, I am all for a savory pancake month! Love the idea...

                                                                  1. re: gingershelley
                                                                    Berheenia Oct 31, 2012 10:51 AM

                                                                    GS- is a french crepe a savory pancake when filled with a savory filling? I have a hankering to make Julia's crepes using Wondra Flour and a blender. Back to the 70's!

                                                                    1. re: Berheenia
                                                                      L.Nightshade Oct 31, 2012 10:59 AM

                                                                      I don't think plain crepes with fillings really fit into the category. Filled crepes and crepe cakes could have endless filling possibilities, but it's not really part of the pancake. I think we're shooting more for a pancake with the various savory ingredients in the batter.

                                                                      1. re: L.Nightshade
                                                                        Berheenia Nov 1, 2012 04:29 AM

                                                                        I have 2 bunches of scallions to use up so you got me thinking.... Thanks LN!

                                                                  2. re: DuchessNukem
                                                                    JungMann Oct 31, 2012 08:08 AM

                                                                    Savory pancakes would be a perfect DOTM during carnivale when many of us mark Mardi Gras with a pancake dinner. I always leave the dinner thinking I ought to make pancakes more often (though I never seem to!)

                                                                  3. re: tartetatin
                                                                    mariacarmen Oct 29, 2012 10:37 PM

                                                                    i would be perfectly happy with any one of these three!

                                                              2. re: DuchessNukem
                                                                gingershelley Oct 30, 2012 10:33 AM

                                                                Too funny Duchess - your on;} All in fun.....

                                                              3. ...tm... Oct 29, 2012 12:41 PM

                                                                SAVORY PANCAKES

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                                                                  MelMM Oct 29, 2012 10:18 AM

                                                                  I've been hesitating to vote, because I like all the options pretty well.

                                                                  I'm thinking POT PIE will work well for me. I'm planning to make them in individual portions (yes, like the frozen ones, but better!), which I can then freeze. I have a set of individual sized pie tins to use for this, so it seems a worthwhile project.

                                                                  5 Replies
                                                                  1. re: MelMM
                                                                    nomadchowwoman Oct 29, 2012 12:02 PM

                                                                    I always make individual ones, MelMM, b/c they are great to have in the freezer. It's also one of the few things my mom will let me make for her to have on hand. And when my sister visits, she always goes in search of pot pies in my freezer.

                                                                    And w/individual pies, it always *seems* like you're getting more crust.

                                                                    1. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                      blue room Oct 29, 2012 12:31 PM

                                                                      "w/individual pies, it always *seems* like you're getting more crust."

                                                                      Very good reason to have a very good crust!

                                                                      1. re: nomadchowwoman
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                                                                        MelMM Oct 29, 2012 02:08 PM

                                                                        I'm OK with more crust! I've made the individual ones before, but it's been quite a while (years) since I've done it. Not sure why. Lately I am cooking for one (me), so having individual portions that freeze well is very attractive.

                                                                        1. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                          gingershelley Oct 29, 2012 05:47 PM

                                                                          Yes to more crust! I see why people voted for needing top + bottom crust as a criteria, but individual pies makes that even more special, or helps with the ration of you do only top crust or alternative crusts:)

                                                                        2. re: MelMM
                                                                          gingershelley Oct 29, 2012 05:45 PM

                                                                          Individual pot pies - homemade - MUCH, much better - even if my above story about frozen Banquet pies is a treasured childhood memory.

                                                                          I am with you on the single serve pot pie Melmm!

                                                                        3. h
                                                                          Hungryhughy Oct 29, 2012 09:47 AM

                                                                          POT PIE

                                                                          I have never made a pot pie but I grew up on them, the frozen kind, and I loved when we were having pot pies and could pick chicken, beef, or turkey. Were there other ones? I've only had one homemade pot pie in my life and it was great and it did have a bottom crust, but I don't care about that one way or the other.

                                                                          Hell, I've never made a crust of any kind. But I'll give it a try if pot pie is the winner.

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                                                                          1. re: Hungryhughy
                                                                            gingershelley Oct 29, 2012 05:43 PM

                                                                            Hungryhughy, I like your post - and your adventurous spirit! You could always purchase a pie shell, puff pastry, or even pre-made mashed potatoes (tho I would urge you to make your own at least for the potatoes) to get a crust for pot pie.

                                                                            I have to say, my mother made GREAT pot pies - but, I loved tv dinner night, which was every other Sunday night for during Mutual of Omaha's 'Wild Kingdom' and "Wonderful World of Disney".....
                                                                            I would eschew a TV dinner for a frozen Banquet chicken pot pie most times; I LOVED to slightly undercook it (er, or mom would), and I could turn it out of it's little foil tin onto my plate, eat the bottom crust, and have this awesome personal chicken pot pie volcano to eat my way down the kind-of-soft crust of the sides, eating the peas and the weirdly perfect carrot squares.

                                                                            Gradually I would get down to the nice browned crusty top edges of the top crust at the bottom of the plate, all schmeared with gravy. Heaven!

                                                                          2. Berheenia Oct 28, 2012 01:30 PM

                                                                            I had to flip a coin- heads=gratin; tails= pot pie.
                                                                            GRATIN

                                                                            1. eperdu Oct 28, 2012 12:31 PM

                                                                              POT PIE

                                                                              I'm a huge fan of Claim Jumper chicken pot pie which has a gorgeous flaky crust, huge chunks of roasted chicken, potatoes and other veg in a silky gravy. *swoon* I've been wanting to try my hand at these and possibly freezing for later eating when I'm pinched for time.

                                                                              1. q
                                                                                Quintious Oct 28, 2012 11:15 AM

                                                                                GRATINS

                                                                                1. gingershelley Oct 28, 2012 08:18 AM

                                                                                  I officially throw my deep pie dish in the ring.... POT PIES :)

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                                                                                  1. re: gingershelley
                                                                                    GretchenS Oct 28, 2012 11:08 AM

                                                                                    Yay gs!

                                                                                    1. re: GretchenS
                                                                                      gingershelley Oct 29, 2012 05:37 PM

                                                                                      Thanks for being on the pot pie team. I am already excited. It was my suggestion - I think I blame my mom - who was a spectacular pot pie goddess.

                                                                                      If not the DOTM (BTW, have I said how MUCH I am liking this idea - thanks Dave for coming up with this!!), then we may have to have a thread, or re-nominate after hollydaze is over.

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                                                                                    angelsmom Oct 27, 2012 01:22 PM

                                                                                    GRATINS

                                                                                    1. blue room Oct 27, 2012 01:18 PM

                                                                                      Legalize POT PIES please, the kind with meat or vegetables in sauce or gravy enclosed and/or topped with a starchy crust.
                                                                                      Savory pancakes soon!

                                                                                      1. nomadchowwoman Oct 27, 2012 12:39 PM

                                                                                        POT PIES

                                                                                        --to me, it is pretty much what Gio and GretchenS decribe: some combination of meat or seafoodwith veggies in a gravy/thickened broth and a top crust, but I look forward to learning some interesting variations if it becomes COTM.

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                                                                                          sandylc Oct 27, 2012 11:14 AM

                                                                                          Hm-mm you people here have me thinking about scallion pancakes.......

                                                                                          1. jen kalb Oct 27, 2012 10:27 AM

                                                                                            SAVORY PANCAKES

                                                                                            1. deet13 Oct 27, 2012 12:14 AM

                                                                                              SAVORY PANCAKES...

                                                                                              Okonomiyaki and frybread make for good munchies.

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                                                                                              1. re: deet13
                                                                                                mariacarmen Oct 27, 2012 09:37 PM

                                                                                                (deet13, i love your avitar)

                                                                                                1. re: mariacarmen
                                                                                                  deet13 Oct 30, 2012 04:55 PM

                                                                                                  Thanks, it's from my wife's favorite anime.

                                                                                              2. DuchessNukem Oct 26, 2012 08:10 PM

                                                                                                SAVORY SAVORY SAVORY PANCAKES

                                                                                                But perhaps I'm being a bit forward. :)

                                                                                                Grain + vegetal base is my thought for this challenge: I've got acorn, butternut and delicata squash in fridge. The natural sweetness of the squash would need balancing with savory herbs and flavorings.

                                                                                                Or maybe a lovely shallot-y/onion-y pancake.

                                                                                                1. BigSal Oct 26, 2012 06:35 PM

                                                                                                  POT PIES

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                                                                                                    Westminstress Oct 26, 2012 05:26 PM

                                                                                                    SAVORY PANCAKES - a savory batter, often containing veggies or protein, cooked in a skillet or on a griddle. Can be large or small. Love potato pancakes, okonomiyaki, and especially pa jun (Korean pancakes), but heir are so many other good ones. Zucchini, sweet potatoes, beets, carrots, cabbage - all can be grated and turned into delicious pancakes! Add bacon, chopped shrimp, herbs, cheese, even oysters. (not all at the same time of course!)

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                                                                                                    1. re: Westminstress
                                                                                                      aching Oct 26, 2012 06:48 PM

                                                                                                      I don't eat shellfish so when I was in Korea I lived on pa jun! So good. Latkes would be savory pancakes too, right?

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                                                                                                        Westminstress Oct 26, 2012 07:37 PM

                                                                                                        Of course!

                                                                                                    2. L.Nightshade Oct 26, 2012 04:43 PM

                                                                                                      POT PIES for me means a savory combination of meat, vegetables and sauce, in a deep dish, topped with (or surrounded by) a crusty starch of any sort. A vegetarian version would be fine too, but I'm sure mine will have some animal inside.

                                                                                                      1. mariacarmen Oct 26, 2012 02:41 PM

                                                                                                        ooohhh....torn between gratin and pot pie.....

                                                                                                        POT PIE

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                                                                                                          Dirtywextraolives Oct 26, 2012 05:02 PM

                                                                                                          Lol, so am I!! Looks like pot pies are gaining, so I'll just try to even things out a bit....

                                                                                                          GRATINS

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                                                                                                            boyzoma Oct 27, 2012 05:48 AM

                                                                                                            As much as I like a pot pie, I'm going with GRATINS too. And I love mine with lots of Cheese!

                                                                                                        2. aching Oct 26, 2012 02:25 PM

                                                                                                          GRATINS. I think a gratin must have a main ingredient and a dairy-based sauce and must be baked. I don't think that cheese is a necessary component (although it's good).

                                                                                                          I've decided what I love most about these DOM threads is the discussion about what the defining characteristic of a particular dish is - it's so interesting!

                                                                                                          1. hambone Oct 26, 2012 02:01 PM

                                                                                                            SAVORY PANCAKES: I've made a crab gateau which is slamming but could use a little refining. Would that qualify?

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                                                                                                              dkennedy Oct 26, 2012 04:09 PM

                                                                                                              I think a crab gateau (aka cake) should most definitely qualify!

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                                                                                                                L.Nightshade Oct 26, 2012 04:37 PM

                                                                                                                I think crab cakes deserve their own thread at some point. It seems a little far afield as a pancake.

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                                                                                                                  hambone Oct 28, 2012 02:46 PM

                                                                                                                  Gateau is a layered crepe dish. This isn't a crab cake.

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                                                                                                                    sandylc Oct 28, 2012 03:00 PM

                                                                                                                    Actually, gateau is "cake" in French.

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                                                                                                                      hambone Oct 29, 2012 07:24 AM

                                                                                                                      I knew that from Susan Spicer. (A great cookbook!)

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                                                                                                                        gingershelley Oct 29, 2012 05:35 PM

                                                                                                                        Therefore, a Crab Gateau is a crepe layer cake with crab, but not a crabcake. Your welcome:)

                                                                                                              2. linguafood Oct 26, 2012 01:51 PM

                                                                                                                GRATINS. I've only made potatoes au gratin myself -- so I'd be VERY interested in other types/kinds... but this particular gratin is always a favorite side at our house, and there are never leftovers.

                                                                                                                This recipe includes a buttered baking dish, layers and layers of sliced potatoes, finished off with a flavored light cream (more garlic & salt than you think you need, paprika, cayenne, herbs of your choice) poured all over, then topped with the shredded cheese of your liking -- I usually do a mix of Swiss and Cheddar, baked in the oven until crispy golden brown on top. Oh yeah.

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                                                                                                                  gingershelley Oct 26, 2012 07:17 PM

                                                                                                                  Well, Lingua, I may want pot pie to win, but I think I would be winning for SURE with your gratin of potatoes....

                                                                                                                  That sounds mighty good! Care to share the recipe? Perhaps you might want to wait, I think until voting is done.... anyway, if gratin doesn't make it for DOTM, I sure have several I am partial too, and would like to have gratin be a DOTM or a thread somehow FAST.

                                                                                                                  I need your recipe! :)

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                                                                                                                    L.Nightshade Oct 26, 2012 09:18 PM

                                                                                                                    gingershelley - you have mentioned that you want pot pies to win, but if you want to vote for it, you have to write it in all capital letters.

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                                                                                                                      gingershelley Oct 27, 2012 09:39 AM

                                                                                                                      I know :) LN - just lurking for now - I will vote!

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                                                                                                                      linguafood Oct 27, 2012 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                      I don't really "do" recipes (I don't measure my ingredients, for one -- which is why I never, ever, EVAH bake), but I could try.

                                                                                                                      2 lbs. of potatoes, sliced thinly on the mandoline
                                                                                                                      1 buttered baking dish
                                                                                                                      5-6 cloves of garlic
                                                                                                                      1 cup of light cream
                                                                                                                      spices to taste -- e.g. paprika, cayenne, s&p, some dried herbs if you feel like it
                                                                                                                      1-1.5 packs of your choice of shredded cheese (or shred your own)

                                                                                                                      Layer potatoes slightly overlapping in the baking dish. Mix light cream with the crushed garlic cloves and spices. Pour over potatoes. Generously top with shredded cheese.

                                                                                                                      Bake for approx. 45-50 min. @375 or until top is golden brown. Eat. Burn your mouth.

                                                                                                                      It really is *that* easy, and you can vary it to your liking. I once added an egg to the cream mix, which made it a bit too dry and custardy for my taste, so now I don't use eggs in my gratin anymore.

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                                                                                                                        gingershelley Oct 27, 2012 10:46 AM

                                                                                                                        I am like you, Lingua - rarely 'do' recipes either. More of a 'guideline', so this works just great. I think the garlic and spices are the key to this one, and plenty of cheese it sounds like! Thank you.

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                                                                                                                          boyzoma Oct 27, 2012 07:41 PM

                                                                                                                          I like to add a little Worcestershire in the mix before I pour it over as well as "thinly" sliced onions between layers (but my version used chicken stock instead of the cream). Gives a little "tang", but oh. so. good. I'm definitely making your version of gratin with my additions - with or without the DOTM!!!!!!!

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                                                                                                                            linguafood Oct 28, 2012 09:20 AM

                                                                                                                            Knock yerself out :-)

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                                                                                                                      KrumTx Oct 26, 2012 01:09 PM

                                                                                                                      POT PIES. And I agree with GretchenS

                                                                                                                      1. DiningDiva Oct 26, 2012 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                        POT PIE...as long as we're all on board for the same general definition of what constitutes a pot pie. I'm good with the one provided up thread by GretchenS.

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                                                                                                                          sandylc Oct 26, 2012 12:29 PM

                                                                                                                          POT PIES

                                                                                                                          1. Will Owen Oct 26, 2012 11:35 AM

                                                                                                                            POT PIES. And I agree with GretchenS's definition, which would encompass three of my favorites: Shepherd's, Chicken and Tamale, any of which would be welcome in November.

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                                                                                                                              gingershelley Oct 26, 2012 07:13 PM

                                                                                                                              OOOOH! Tamale Pie! Nice mention WillO! I hadn't even thought of this as a 'pot pie' on my radar, but I love tamale pie.... great segway from enchiladas, and brings the chilies to the November cooking in a casserole idea in an accessible way. You rock.

                                                                                                                            2. Cynsa Oct 26, 2012 11:14 AM

                                                                                                                              SAVORY PANCAKES
                                                                                                                              Okonomiyaki is 'anything goes' and 'clean out the frig' - it was a staple in my student days in Kyoto.
                                                                                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/874904

                                                                                                                              1. JungMann Oct 26, 2012 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                                I am voting for POT PIES which I am broadly defining as a pie whose savory filling need not contain sauce and which is cooked in a deep dish (not including quiches) with either a single or double pastry crust. This would include chicken pot pie, tourtière, and even Australian meat pie, but exclude quiches, tarts and hand pies (i.e. empanadas, pasties, etc.).

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                                                                                                                                  gingershelley Oct 26, 2012 07:11 PM

                                                                                                                                  JM, I like this definition as well for Pot pie, tho kind of intrigued by ' not contain sauce".... I am trying to think of savory pies - no egg(quiche-y), that would fill this bill?

                                                                                                                                  I like the limit of no tarts or hand pies also; a fine defining move.

                                                                                                                                  Are you open to other starches, as some of us have approved? Such as mashed potato, biscuit, etc. for toppings?

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                                                                                                                                    JungMann Oct 26, 2012 07:48 PM

                                                                                                                                    I am certainly open to other starches. In fact, tamale pie, with its sauceless filling, is one of the suggestions that really caught my eye. I've also had a hankering for pork pie and tourtiere, so those could be on my pot pie agenda.

                                                                                                                                2. herby Oct 26, 2012 10:48 AM

                                                                                                                                  SAVORY PANCAKES

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                                                                                                                                    dkennedy Oct 26, 2012 11:17 AM

                                                                                                                                    SAVORY PANCAKES

                                                                                                                                    Any and all types. With Hannukah coming up, potato pancakes are the obvious choice that come to mind but there are so many other varieties. I will try to compile a list and report back this weekend. Meantime just think about your favorite ethnic food and I promise you, there is a savory pancake that goes along with it. Chinese: thin onion pancake; Japanese: okonomiyaki; Korean: kimchee pancake; Italian: stuffed risotto cakes; Indian: ragda patties; and on and on. I started bookmarking savory pancake recipes last time around so I have a ton of resources to share when/if SPs win. Either way, very excited to be participating!

                                                                                                                                  2. GretchenS Oct 26, 2012 10:44 AM

                                                                                                                                    POT PIES, which to me means some kind of savory moist (with gravy) bottom layer, topped by some kind of carby topping: pastry, cornbread, biscuits, mashed potatoes. Chicken pot pie, classic British fish pie, shepherd's pie, lobster pie all fall into this category, among many others. I think most everyone loves them and they are great for delivering dinner to others, which is appealing to many of us I think.

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                                                                                                                                      gingershelley Oct 26, 2012 07:08 PM

                                                                                                                                      Gio and GretchenS; I agree - to me, a 'pot pie' could be anything that you describe - a 'wet/moist filling topped with a carby topping is a perfect description.

                                                                                                                                      This was my idea in suggesting it. I LOVE the idea of lobster or fish pie - which I would never have thought of here to put in the mix. SEA/ Pac NW doesn't have a tradition of 'fish pie", or for that matter, one with dungeness crab - which is our answer to the East coast's lobster.

                                                                                                                                      If 'pot pie' wins, I will be inventing a dungeness crab pot pie to honor the idea. Darn it, I will make it anyway, as you' all gave me the itch, but I would rather it be 'official:)

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                                                                                                                                        Gio Oct 27, 2012 04:02 AM

                                                                                                                                        Too funny, GS. I have crab on my list of pot pies to make... also, lamb, lobster and turkey. Nothing like positive thinking.

                                                                                                                                    2. Gio Oct 26, 2012 10:27 AM

                                                                                                                                      POT PIES

                                                                                                                                      Although I think of traditional pot pies as having a main ingredient and several supporting vegetables in a savory thickened broth with a flaky pastry top crust, I like the fact that there are variations on this theme. It allows for one's creative approach to such a basic homely dish. I do believe, though, the pot pie ought to be savory rather than sweet.

                                                                                                                                      1. letsindulge Oct 26, 2012 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                                        SAVORY PANCAKES

                                                                                                                                        1. jpr54_1 Oct 26, 2012 10:01 AM

                                                                                                                                          GRATINS

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