Would you keep this de Buyer pan?
I have been lurking on here for a while and always appreciate everyone sharing their knowledge and insight. I finally came out of hiding to get some advice.
I recently found out about carbon steel de Buyer pans... I also quickly realized I couldn't afford one! I saw some old threads where folks had bought theirs on discount from Tuesday Morning. For the heck of it, I went to the one by my house and snagged a 10 inch pan.
I'm not gonna lie - this pan is a little rough around the edges. Literally. It's got some scratches and little chips off the edges, from where I imagine it's been getting abused by other pans this whole time. It also has some small rust spots and a couple small scrapes in the coated handle. And while this doesn't sound too classy, I assure you this was the best pan BY FAR. I went to the other TMs in my area, and what few they had were way worse.
So, would you keep this pan? My husband said I should take it back and put the money towards getting a nicer one. The down side is that will cost me twice as much. Black Friday/ Cyber Monday are closing in; are de Buyer pans something I could get a good deal on?
Thanks for reading my novel, and a big thanks in advance for any advice you could give me!
Those nicks and scratches don't sound like they affect performance. They aren't like scratches in a nonstick coating. In a commercial kitchen working pans get banged up like this right away.
Go to your husband's toolbox and find a fine file, and use that to smooth off the rim if the nicks bother you.
I will repeat what Paulj and some more.
Paulj is correct. Nicks and scratches do not affect performance of a carbon steel pan. They can affect performance for other cookware like Teflon cookware or cladded cookware, but they have little to no effect on solid carbon steel cookware.
The Debuyer pan I have also had a slightly rough edge, but not too bad.
Now, what I want to add is the opposite side of the story. I don't know how much you pay for the DeBuyer pan, but a brand new ~10" Debuyer steel pan is about $60-70.
However, there are cheaper alternatives. First, DeBuyer is phrasing out its Carbone Plus (previous version) cookware, so they are being sold at a lower price point. They are just as good as Mineral and Mineral B. You can get a 10"-12" Carbone Plus pan for about $30 (not including shipping).
Another alternative is to simply look for a different brand. Paderno and Lodge and others are also selling their carbon steel pans for ~$30-35:
(free shipping from Amazon)
The "For" arguments are that: (1) these carbon steel cookware will eventually get scratched, and (2) these scratch marks do not worsen the cookware.
The "Against" argument is that: Why pay for a scratched up, nicked up pan when you can get a brand new looking pan for the same price.
I a newbie here but I have been reading all your posts. I clicked on the link you provided for the De Buyer Carbon Steel pans on sale at bakedeco.com and it's a very good deal. Almost bought one a de Buyer mineral pan from Amazon for about $50 something, until I see your post.
Do you have any idea why they are phasing out the Carbone Steel frying pan?
If you own one, are they as good as the mineral pans from de Buyer?
I do not have Carbone Plus, instead I have DeBuyer Force Blue. A few other posters here have used the Carbone Plus pans and they really like them, Dave05440, petek, mikerng ...etc. I have absolutely no question about the quality of the Carbone Plus.
They are phrasing out Carbone Plus with Mineral for a marketing strategy -- I believe. The two lines are really the same material except that Mineral has a nicer package, and that Mineral has a little silicone button/tab at the handle (which has both pro and con)
I even wrote to DeBuyer, and it is confirmed by the Export Department that they are very similar. Here is from Franck Chatelain (Thanks Franck)
Please have a look below :
The “Mineral” line is like the “Carbone +” one, but with a better finish and packaging, more suitable for the retail market (see in the attachment)
This kind of change in marketing is not unusual. Henckels is phrasing out its previous flagship Four Star with Four Star II, so you will see some leftover Four Star knives being sold at a slightly lower price.
Thanks for the info and confirmation. Just to be safe I went to Cost Plus today to see maybe they have any De Buyer..but no. So after reading your post, I went ahead and order the Carbone Steele from bakedeco.com. When I get it, I will post an update...thanks for everything!
<I've heard that for equivalent size pans, the mineral line is thicker than carbone plus.
Hi iyc nyc,
I have not heard of that. Based on the company brochure, the two lines have the same thickness. Here you can see that Debuyer Carbone Plus fry pan is 2.5 mm thick for 18 cm diameter to 24 cm, and 3 mm thick for 26 cm diameter onward:
same thickness scheme for Mineral fry pan
And based on the people I have talked to, they should be same thickness as well.
I just wanted to add, having now seen and handled both the Mineral and Carbone Plus lines, that there aren't any significant differences between them. Both are very nice, thick, and heavy. You would be happy with either one! I like the handle coating better on the Carbone Plus though.
Thanks for your help!
When I was originally scoping out carbon steel, I saw the options Chem listed. I didn't go with Kerekes because they only offered free shipping on the 32 cm size and above. Seeing the link piqued my curiosity again, so I did a CS chat with Kerekes about why the other pans didn't qualify. Turns out it was an error, so now any purchase of $99 + on deBuyer has free standard shipping. I got 3 pans for a good price. The free shipping and no tax helped a lot.
Just a heads up for anyone else in the market. Thank you again!