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Pierre Gagnaire - tasting menu or not?

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kai.m Oct 24, 2012 03:07 PM

Hi,

we'll be visiting Pierre Gagnaire's restaurant in Paris in November for lunch and after all I have read and seen, Iam still unsure: is this a restaurant where the tasting menu is the best option, or should one go for some à-la-carte dishes?

To give an impression about our preferences: we love innovative/modern cuisine (like The Fat Duck or Alinea or L'Arnsbourg) but are kind of afraid of the big portions that french 3*-restaurants often serve – at Alain Ducasse in Paris I could not finish one single dish from the (wonderful) tasting menu, so insanely huge and heavy were the portions.

Our most beloved restaurant in Paris is Agapé Substance.

So, what do you think is the best way to experience Gagnaires cuisine and his "genius"?

Thanks alot!

regards from europe
k.

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    Maximilien RE: kai.m Oct 24, 2012 03:55 PM

    from my limited experience at Pierre Gagnaire, ordering from the regular menu or from the hunting menu (if it is still there when you go), will give you a lot of food.

    Most dishes are in fact a collection of small dishes.

    When I went, I ordered from the Hunting menu and ordered dessert (soufflé) and could barely finish everything.

    Gagnaire is very generous.

    I think that most people feel that the lunch menu is a bit underwhelming.

    Max.

    1. Delucacheesemonger RE: kai.m Oct 25, 2012 02:40 AM

      Done both, tough call. With ALC you can get large portions of what you really think you want, but with Tasting menu, the surprises are very often worthwhile. On one occasion liked a tasting course so much, they gave me a second one when l asked.

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        theskyflyer RE: Delucacheesemonger Jun 20, 2013 06:32 PM

        I had originally planned to go to Ledoyen for lunch, but alas, it won't be opened that day (Don't know why, it's a regular weekday in early July).

        So, now I think I am set for PG. Can someone tell me if for a party of 5, people can participate in different menus - a la carte and lunch menu? I don't think any of us will take the tasting menu.

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          PBSF RE: theskyflyer Jun 20, 2013 09:52 PM

          Everyone in your table does not need to take the lunch menu; some can order a la carte.

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            souphie RE: PBSF Jun 23, 2013 06:25 AM

            Usually, only the tasting is suggested for the whole table.

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          souphie RE: Delucacheesemonger Jun 23, 2013 06:27 AM

          What he said. Tasting probably actually has fewer tastes than ordering 3-4 courses ALC, as ALC dishes are often composed of six, seven "satellite" plates around the main one. As DCM says, you're not going to get what you think anyway.

          Also, ALC is essentially more expensive.

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          lhenry RE: kai.m Jun 27, 2013 08:40 AM

          Sorry to revive this thread, but what is the approximate price of each a la carte dish?

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            Delucacheesemonger RE: lhenry Jun 27, 2013 09:18 AM

            Recall 80-100 euro entree and 100-140 plats. Thus one of each comes out about the same in quantity of food and l rarely eat dessert so to miss the Grande Dessert is no big deal to me.

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              Maximilien RE: lhenry Jun 27, 2013 09:27 AM

              It's expensive, about 100e per dish (both for the appetizers and the main course). but it comes with all the trimmings, you will not leave hungry.

              My experience at Gagnaire (2 years ago) cost me 335e , including 1 bottle wine and dessert.

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                Delucacheesemonger RE: Maximilien Jun 27, 2013 09:40 AM

                Exactly the same for the Prix fixe and one bottle of wine. Water and coffee were included, rare.

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                  lhenry RE: Maximilien Jun 27, 2013 05:05 PM

                  Would one main course be enough for lunch? Also, what are the recommended a la carte items?

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                    Maximilien RE: lhenry Jun 28, 2013 06:19 AM

                    The menu is quite descriptive
                    (http://www.pierre-gagnaire.com/medias...

                    )

                    What do you like (or dislike), are you more into fish/shellfish or meat (red or white) ?

                    At lunch, if you are short on money, you could order the lunch menu, which does contain the "Grand Dessert".

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                      PBSF RE: Maximilien Jun 28, 2013 08:47 AM

                      Just a comment on the above post regarding to the Lunch Menu; the last two times that I had the Lunch Menu, the dessert course is not the full "Grand Dessert" (if ordered a la carte or part of the Tasting Menu) but a shortened version consisting of 5 small tastings. Still plenty of food.

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                        Maximilien RE: PBSF Jun 28, 2013 08:48 AM

                        I stand corrected.

                        Thanks.

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                        lhenry RE: Maximilien Jun 28, 2013 10:32 AM

                        I generally like red meat better, but am open to white meat and fish/shelfish. One of the reasons I didn't want to do the lunch menu was because it got bad reviews by other chowhounders, is this true?

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                          PBSF RE: lhenry Jun 28, 2013 02:11 PM

                          From my experience, I wouldn't say that the Lunch Menu is bad but it cannot be compared to ordering a la carte or his regular tasting menu. For Lunch Menu, his first course and dessert both consisting of 5 small tastings are mostly delicious and creative. The two main plates are more pedestrian and the ingredients are less luxurious (example: cod instead of turbot). Still, I think it presents good value and a chance to experience his cooking without blowing a large budget.
                          As another posted stated, the 3 star restaurants of Paris are all different and unique in what they have to offer in terms of cooking style, ambience and service. It comes down to what one is looking for and expectation. What you are looking for as"Superlative" is very subjective.

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                  lhenry RE: kai.m Jun 28, 2013 12:12 PM

                  Also, would you recommend PG over the other 3* in Paris. This will be my first trip to Paris (December), and I want to visit superlative restaurants.

                  P.S. I will also be going to Le Cinq in this trip

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                    Maximilien RE: lhenry Jun 28, 2013 12:37 PM

                    They all are different in some ways.

                    What kind of 3* cuisine are you looking for ? classical ? more modern ? "grand" setting ? intimate ? tasting menu vs. "à la carte" ?

                    I've done Gagnaire and L'Ambroisie and, I think they are quite at the opposite of the spectrum in terms of cuisine and ambiance.

                    I've had a lot more fun at Gagnaire, but l'Ambroisie was quite a fabulous experience (and much much more expensive).

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                      lhenry RE: Maximilien Jun 30, 2013 07:01 PM

                      I want an opposite experience to Le Cinq, but I do tend to like more traditional food and setting. I don't really care whether it's a tasting vs. à la carte either. What do you think would be a good fit for me.

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