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$40 Scotch

EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 09:49 AM

All,

I've got a colleague, a Scot, who will be retiring soon. I'd like to get him a decent bottle of Scotch around $40 which is not the typical stuff you can find in the States. Luckily, I've got access to an excellent store with an massive and varied number of different Scotch.

Ideas? I'm not a Scotch drinker.

Thanks.

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  1. pinehurst RE: EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 10:03 AM

    Not quite $40 in my area (47.99) in fact, but I'd rec. The Black Grouse.

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      ncyankee101 RE: pinehurst Oct 24, 2012 11:49 AM

      Black grouse is $48 in your area? I hope you're referring to a 1.75 ltr bottle.

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        pinehurst RE: ncyankee101 Oct 25, 2012 09:50 AM

        Yes. Why?

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          ncyankee101 RE: pinehurst Oct 25, 2012 12:23 PM

          Most people refer to 750's in threads like this. Buying someone a huge bottle of something they might or might not like is a risky proposition.

          Also, if you are trying to get someone a bottle of something more or less special, you would be better to buy a smaller bottle of a decent single malt than a blend like Black grouse - which IMO is decent but nothing special, I prefer Black Bottle which is cheaper.

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            kagemusha49 RE: ncyankee101 Oct 25, 2012 02:18 PM

            If he's a true Scot he'll appreciate your good taste and thriftiness when you buy him two bottles of Black Bottle for less than your budget for a single bottle.

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              The Big Crunch RE: kagemusha49 Oct 25, 2012 02:27 PM

              But Black Bottle is pretty peaty stuff. Just because he's Scottish does not mean he's automatically a fan of peated Scotch.

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      jhojati RE: EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 10:05 AM

      I recommend Bunnahabhain

      1. EvergreenDan RE: EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 10:13 AM

        It would be helpful to know what type of scotch he prefers and what bottles are available to you. Otherwise you are likely to get recommendations of scotch that he might not fancy or that you can't find.

        That said, for $50 (okay, 25% over your budget, I know), you might be able to find Michel Couvreur. It's rather interesting as it's distilled in Scotland (by definition), but then aged in France in sherry casks. It is not well-known, so there is a chance it might be new to him. It is in the smokey/peaty Islay style, but not hugely so.

        http://www.drinkupny.com/Michel_Couvr...

        I should note that I have not had this vatted expression, but based upon others that I have had, I bet it's great.

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        1. Savour RE: EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 10:40 AM

          You can find almost everything in the States now, but I'm assuming you're thinking "Not Chivas, Not Johnnie Walker, and probably not Glenfiddich." It's hard to judge what type of Scotch he likes -- I know die hard peat fans, and then there was my dad (an honorary Scot -- whisky ran in his veins instead of blood, based on the amount of it he drank) was a die hard Macallan fan. Good single malts in that price range to check out would be, IMO - the Balvenie, Glenmorangie, and Dalmore. None are super premium or rare, but all are good drinking single malts and worthy of a gift.

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            DavidT RE: EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 10:58 AM

            Here is a similar thread from not too long ago:

            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/861269

            If you have an excellent store nearby, I would certainly go in there and ask the staff for their recommendations. Unfortunately, $40 does not buy anything special these days. You certainly cannot go wrong with a bottle of Highland Park (or Macallan) 12-year old.

            If you go to the upper right-hand corner of this page and do searches for "single malt" and/or "scotch whisky", you will find other helpful past discussions on this topic.

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              DavidT RE: DavidT Oct 24, 2012 11:04 AM

              Here is a link to the Scotch whiskies that BevMo sells from $30 to $50:

              http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductList...

              In addition to the Highland Park and Macallan 12-year single-malts, I would consider the 12-year old single-malts from Bowmore and Glenfarclas

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              nickls RE: EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 11:05 AM

              Second on the Balvenie 12. Aberlour 12 is another nice sherried malt in your price range that is a bit less common over here (not advertised all over the place like Balvenie is). Glenfarclas 10 would be another sherried option.

              Highland Park 12 is well known among Scotch fans, but also well-liked. Bruichladdich "Laddie Ten" was another one I tasted and liked a lot, you may be able to find it in the $40s, and it is on the newer side.

              For something different you may also want to take a look at the Compass Box offerings. Oak Cross and Asyla should be around $40 and were blended by an American, so a bit different than your typical Scotch, but still on the light side.

              Then for the peatier stuff, you can sometimes find Laphroaig 10 for around $40, and you may be able to find Ardbeg 10 in that price range as well.

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                The Big Crunch RE: nickls Oct 25, 2012 01:47 PM

                I was going to respond, but basically, nickls said everything I would have said.

                The problem you're going to run into is that in that price range, you're really not dealing with any rare Scotch. Most good single malts start around $35-$40.

                I will say this...even folks I know who don't usually care for Scotch enjoy Balvenie 12 and Laddie Ten.

                If he's planning on retiring back to Scotland, habe you thought about picking up a really nice bourbon? Lots of great bourbon under $40 and you won't find nearly the selection in Scotland that we have here in the US of our native spirit.

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                  EarlyBird RE: The Big Crunch Oct 26, 2012 09:56 AM

                  He's actually a long time Angeleno and will stay put in the Golden State during his golden years. But good idea.

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                ncyankee101 RE: EarlyBird Oct 24, 2012 11:58 AM

                As Dan said, it would be useful to know what type of Scotch your friend likes - and it would also help to know where you are located, as Scotch prices vary a lot in different parts of the country. If you could tell us specifically what store you will be using, maybe they have their inventory online.

                The most unusual bottle I have purchased for under $40 is probably jura Superstition, it's a nice Highland with some smoke in the profile, which is not normal for a Highland. It runs $50 or more in some areas but I was able to find it for around $38.

                Glenmorangie Quinta Rubin is also excellent and has an unusual flavor profile, though not particularly hard to find.

                1. EarlyBird RE: EarlyBird Oct 25, 2012 07:16 AM

                  All,

                  Great input. Thank you. Here is the link to the store in my neighborhood, the Wine House in Los Angeles (Westside). Amazing selection. If I need to get up to $50 to get the right bottle, so be it.

                  With 121 different Scotches, I ought to be able to find the right one:

                  http://www.winehouse.com/result.php?s...

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                    nickls RE: EarlyBird Oct 25, 2012 08:30 AM

                    Strathisla 12 is pretty rare, which is listed as in stock at your store. I've never tried it, but apparently it is a very old distillery and is considered a classic single malt Scotch. Ledaig 10 is another one you don't see everywhere, gets good reviews and is exactly $40.

                    To get more specific recommendations you would need to know what your colleague's taste in Scotch is.

                    Also, it looks like there is a BevMo just down the road which has lower prices on certain bottles and also has a good Scotch selection. They have a Stronachie 12 which would be another bottle that I haven't seen around.

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                      DavidT RE: EarlyBird Oct 25, 2012 09:34 AM

                      You really should ask your friend (or find out some other way) if he likes the smokey, peaty single-malts from the west coast of Scotland (and the island of Islay) or the smoother whiskies from in & around the Spey Valley in northeast Scotland. They are really quite distinct in taste.

                      The Highland Park 12 year, which I recommended above, is one whisky that is between these two styles of whisky in taste.

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                        ncyankee101 RE: EarlyBird Oct 25, 2012 12:19 PM

                        One I would recommend off that list is Johnny Walker Green Label - it's a very good all-malt blend, no grain whiskey mixed in,- and it is no longer being made, so won't be around much longer. It also has a flavor profile that should appeal to most palates.

                        Another one which is very good for the price with an interesting taste is Ardmore for $38. I also see they have the Quinta Rubin for $50, you couldn't go wrong with that one, which has a flavor profile nearly any Scotch lover should like.

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                          Savour RE: EarlyBird Oct 25, 2012 04:11 PM

                          While their selection is good, in your price range I'd go to BevMo or Trader Joe's for more bang for your buck. TJ's carries a few nice single malts (I'm a fellow Angeleno) including the Balvenie doublewood for about $15 cheaper than the Wine House.

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                            EarlyBird RE: Savour Oct 26, 2012 09:57 AM

                            I like that idea. And I'm in walking distance to two TJ's.

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                              DavidT RE: EarlyBird Oct 26, 2012 11:22 AM

                              TJ's also usually carries Dalwhinnie single-malt, which is a good one.

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                                ncyankee101 RE: DavidT Oct 26, 2012 12:44 PM

                                Dalwhinnie is a very mild lowland Scotch, again it would be useful to know what type of Scotch he likes - if he's like me and likes smoky peaty Scotches he will likely be disppointed with Dalwhinnie (though it is one of the best if he likes that style).

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                                  DavidT RE: ncyankee101 Oct 26, 2012 03:59 PM

                                  Yes, Dalwhinnie does have a mild (and very good!) taste, but it is not a "lowland" Scotch. In fact, the Dalwhinnie distillery is the highest in Scotland. It is well north of Perth.

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                                    ncyankee101 RE: DavidT Oct 27, 2012 12:15 AM

                                    My mistake - I guess I have heard it described as "lowland style", because it is so mild . I never really paid that much attention because I never had any interest in purchasing a bottle at the prevailing price of $45+, since I have primarily heard it described as "Scotch for those who don't like Scotch." It is supposed to be very good for what it is, but it is just not a style that interests me, much like any Irish or Canadian whiskey.

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                                      Chefpaulo RE: ncyankee101 Oct 28, 2012 04:31 PM

                                      I'd take a look at the Auchentoshan line of Lowland Scotch offerings. The youngest (and in your price range) is a pale yellow with a hint of peridot and pleasant citrus nose. Very mild on the palate with a light finish.
                                      CP

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                                        yarm RE: ncyankee101 Nov 14, 2012 02:10 PM

                                        Dalwhinnie was my break through single malt. I wanted to start drinking Scotch and went to a Scotch tasting, and the Dalwhinnie was the one I latched on to first. Couldn't pull the trigger as it was $55 or so when I found it years ago.

                                        The term that someone used it to mock me was calling it "a lady's Scotch." I prefer a gateway Scotch (especially since I was drinking some fiery Bourbons, Fernet Branca, and funky Jamaican rums). Peat/smoke is something you need to ramp up on.

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                                          ncyankee101 RE: yarm Nov 14, 2012 10:37 PM

                                          That's not always the case though Yarm - my first single malt was a 375 ml bottle of Glenfiddich 12 yr, and I just didn't find it interesting at all so I didn't try any more Scotchfor a year or so. Then a friend told me he had tried and liked Talisker and it sounded interesting to me. I went to Whiskey in Durham, a bar that specializes in single malts (with over 80) and tried some talisker and Laphroaig, and was hooked instantly.

                          2. EarlyBird RE: EarlyBird Nov 14, 2012 01:51 PM

                            All,

                            Just thought I'd follow up.

                            First of all, thanks to all of you who pointed out there are roughly two categories of Scotch - the peaty, smoky stuff, and the non-peaty, smoky stuff. Through the grapevine I found out my Scottish friend is partial to Macallan 18, a single malt and which is not the peaty, smoky stuff.

                            That's what I got him, for a bit under $50 a bottle. He's thrilled.

                            Thanks.

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                              DavidT RE: EarlyBird Nov 14, 2012 03:05 PM

                              Thanks for letting us know. Good to hear your friend enjoyed your gift.

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                                ncyankee101 RE: EarlyBird Nov 14, 2012 10:41 PM

                                Ok now a question for you - where in the world did you find Macallan 18 yr for under $50 ??? And can you get me some?? That is a ~$130-150 Scotch everywhere I look - even the 12 yr old is usually around $50.

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                                  Savour RE: ncyankee101 Nov 15, 2012 10:58 AM

                                  I was going to ask the same question! This post made me smile though - yesterday would have been my dad's birthday, and he was a die hard scotch drinker, and Macallan was by far his favorite.

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                                    The Big Crunch RE: ncyankee101 Nov 15, 2012 11:44 AM

                                    It's $88.35 here...but only for a 375 ml.

                                2. yarm RE: EarlyBird Nov 14, 2012 02:17 PM

                                  There are some good middle ground Scotches in that range that offer some peat smoke but it doesn't overwhelm the spice and citrus notes that are from the barley and barrel aging. Some of the Glenrothes work well in that price range. The Balvenie also has decent middle ground Scotches in that price range such as their Double Wood with some port or sherry cask notes giving some extra richness and flavor.

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