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Our Cat Likes People Food

Kat Oct 19, 2012 05:26 AM

Is this weird? We adopted the cat a few months ago and while he eats hs pet food, he hangs out in the kitchen whenever I am in there and sits at my feet when he sees me eating. The cat LOVES gravy; he smells it cooking and meows piteously until I give him a little. He also loves ham and meows for that. I found him eating out of my son's discarded bowl of honey nut cheerios ( but he doesn't like milk alone!). I know this isn't a pet health board, but should I not let him eat these things? Do any of you let your cat eat people food?

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  1. coll RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 05:54 AM

    Of course! They are my little buddies. I give them cat food on a regular basis, but they will fight me for so many things we are dining on, including vegetables. Should I let them, maybe not in a perfect world. This is a dirty secret of mine, since I used to sell high end dog and cat food for a living. I only give them a spoonful of whatever it is, which usually satisfies their desires.

    My little one demands a saucer of half and half every morning when I put the coffee pot on (I keep it on hand just for her, I use almond milk) they claim it will cause diarrhea but she is fine despite drinking it for 10 years now. My 19 year old, plus the Siamese we used to have, actually remember for days if something they like is in the fridge (turkey, steak, ham, bacon etc) and sit in front of the door and cry for it constantly until they realize it's all gone. They were all males, funny the girls never do that.

    Anyway, I try to eat healthy but don't always succeed, same goes for my little friends. Just last night, my older boy ripped the Saran Wrap off a slice of banana bread I had just baked, and took a few big bites, right in front of us. At his age, what the heck.

    BTW it was just recently decided we can post about our furry loved ones, but to do so on Not About Food. Altough General Topics was a good guess!

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      cleobeach RE: coll Oct 19, 2012 06:38 AM

      I have a 19 (almost 20) year old Siamese male that used to eat/demand a wide range of human food but his all time favorite was raw mushrooms, he could eat at least a half cup of sliced mushrooms in one sitting, which for an 8 pound cat was a lot.

      He absolutely positively had to investigate whatever it was we were putting in our mouths. He once jumped on to the table and licked the top of an open beer can.

      We gave him bits of meat all the time but were careful about seasons. I think it is onion powder that can cause trouble in cats.

      I think his sense of taste and smell has greatly diminished because now it is very rare that he comes looking for treats when I cook. He did come screaming for ground beef the other night.

      The female (no longer with us) would occasionally demand a few licks of ice cream but didn't have the same people food cravings as her brother. They were "raised" together but for whatever reason, she wasn't a begger.

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        betsydiver RE: cleobeach Nov 6, 2013 05:55 AM

        I had a male who actually grabbed a piece of chicken out of my mouth/hand and loved to lick clean the tops of Ben and Jerry's containers. he also loved raw mushrooms and would rip into the package if i didn't get it into the fridge quickly enough! his sister was not as interested and my current male, although he's a porker, does not pursue people food whatsoever.

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        letsindulge RE: coll Oct 19, 2012 10:28 AM

        My Lilly (RIP sweet girl) and I shared a love for things salty, and crunchy. The other day Toboe (my daughter's male) stuck his nose onto my dish of sardines in hot sauce!

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        farrago RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 06:25 AM

        My previous cat, adopted from folks who let her have her way, preferred human food over all else. Nothing on the counter or table was ever safe from inspection. On her first day at home, she nabbed two skewers of chicken, dragged them to the end of the hallway, and picked them clean. One time she found the gumption to get up on the stove and nosh on some stir fried green beans in the wok. She had a strong preference for chicken (all preps), corn on the cob, dairy, peas, and Chinese barbecued meats. Whenever the refrigerator was open, she was always there to inspect, and if necessary, to climb in and get a better view. Whenever something was in the oven, the assistant chef always showed up. A regular gourmand she was. In her later years, she developed a sort of patience, as she knew she would always get something to sample. She was 18 years old when she went to the great litterbox in the sky.

        My current cats are the opposite. I can't even bribe them with milk or ice cream. Go figure.

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          coll RE: farrago Oct 19, 2012 06:32 AM

          My two Siamese twins used to cram themselves together on top of the stove between the burners whenever I was cooking turkey. Guess they didn't trust me to remember to give them any. It was so hot up there I don't know how they stood it. They laid there for hours, with their eyes closed, purring. The one of them also always climbed into the refrigerator to scout around, whenever there was a roast inside; I am so glad I have a bottom freezer now to keep them all out!

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            escondido123 RE: coll Oct 21, 2012 12:52 PM

            One year my mother came into the kitchen to carve the turkey that had been resting. Found our cat standing on top of the turkey ripping off a leg. We still ate the turkey.

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              coll RE: escondido123 Oct 22, 2012 03:28 AM

              That sure wouldn't stop me!

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                MelMM RE: escondido123 Oct 22, 2012 11:44 AM

                A few years ago, it was after we had had Thanksgiving dinner, and were in the kitchen putting up the leftovers. One of our guys made a stealthy grab for a turkey leg, and then dashed off with it in his mouth. He knew perfectly well he was doing something bad, thus the stealth and the quick escape.

          2. Perilagu Khan RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 07:06 AM

            One of our cats, a large orange tiger named Sulla, has got to be on the table with us when we have dinner. He's pretty much a carnivore with a strong preference for ham and chicken. Whenever I bring fried chicken home, I always order an extra wing just to keep him at bay.

            Our five other cats are far less interested in human chow, but they will occasionally surprise us. Clara, a small black cat, will jump up on the table/counter and sneak a nibble if we're not careful. And Freddy, a gray and white tuxedo cat, once leapt upon the table and licked a stick of butter. The little scamp!

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              coll RE: Perilagu Khan Oct 19, 2012 07:16 AM

              Aiyeee, right after we got our two tiny kitten aged Siamese (weird to keep bringing them up, even though they are gone 15 years now) I put everything out to make my Christmas cookies on the dining room table. Five minutes later I go back to discover the stick of butter entirely gone, including the wax wrap. That was my first warning of what was to come. Gee I miss them, they were so funny.

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                cleobeach RE: coll Oct 19, 2012 07:59 AM

                I know what you mean, Siamese get under your skin. I can absolutely picture them sitting on the stove.

                People will think I am totally crazy for saying this but with the two of them, it was like having toddlers, I had to think three steps ahead of them at all times. It got so bad we had to lock the interior doors as knobs were an amuzing puzzle to be solved. They got into everything.

                My husband keeps a lid on his nighstand water glass because the male prefers Mr. CB's water out of his glass over his own glass water bowl 3 feet away.

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                  meatn3 RE: cleobeach Oct 19, 2012 09:44 AM

                  9 out of 10 cats surveyed agree that forbidden water just tastes best!

                  My youngest cat lurks between the inner & outer shower curtain so he can jump in the tub as soon as the shower has been turned off and begin licking the droplets. I have to use metal screw top bottles for my water glass. If it is plastic he'll knock it over to try to get the water out. He is the quietest stealthiest cat I've ever known so it is next to impossible to catch him before he has achieved his quest.

                  I use clean, well rinsed glass bowls for their water. It is changed frequently. He will drink from it but the allure of the hunt for the stray droplet holds more appeal.

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                    rasputina RE: meatn3 Oct 19, 2012 09:52 AM

                    Two of our cats prefer drinking from the faucet or any other moving water source so we got a pet fountain for them.

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                      tracylee RE: rasputina Oct 20, 2012 11:34 AM

                      I have a pet fountain, that my old Siamese loves, but my younger tabby will scream in the bathrooms for hours until I get tap water dripping for her. I've found her "punishing" me by laying in the upstairs sink and glaring at me. And she loves to play in the tub.

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                      cleobeach RE: meatn3 Oct 19, 2012 10:16 AM

                      Forbidden water! Ha! Sooooo true.....

                      Kleen Kanteens? Thats what we use at our cabin (yes, the cat travels with us, its that bad!) on the bedside tables. Mr. CB couldn't find another "lid" for use there.

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                        escondido123 RE: cleobeach Oct 21, 2012 12:45 PM

                        Yes, the drinking out of the faucet is sooooo cute when they're kittens. But when you have an 18 year old with kidney problems that rejects the fountains and screams in the night pounding at the bathroom door, it just stops being cute. So my latest batch of young ones do not get to use the faucet.

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                          coll RE: escondido123 Oct 22, 2012 03:33 AM

                          However, drinking out of the toilet is never cute. The youngest of our three came to us with that bad habit and now they all do it if I leave the seat up, especially right after it gets flushed.

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                            jumpingmonk RE: coll Oct 22, 2012 04:17 PM

                            I think I can make you squick one better with regards to "not cute" I once caught our current cat drinking out of the toilet......after I had just gone in it and BEFORE I flushed! (I had gone #1, was about to flush, the phone rang, I got up to answer it, came back, and found her lapping up the water.)

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                              tcamp RE: coll Oct 29, 2013 12:29 PM

                              A friend of mine went on vacation and booked a cat sitter who forgot to come by to care for friend's two cats. She was gone 2 weeks. The only reason her cats survived was because they knew to drink from the toilet and thankfully seats were left up. My dogs wouldn't have made it.

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                                fldhkybnva RE: tcamp Oct 29, 2013 01:15 PM

                                OK, 1. that's terrifying and 2. gotta love those smart kitties, good thing the seat was up

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                                  coll RE: fldhkybnva Oct 30, 2013 02:03 AM

                                  I used to pet sit too, can't imagine missing even one visit. And I had people that booked for four visits per day, for their dogs! I couldn't imagine skipping even one, although I was a little late occasionally.

                                  When I go away and hire someone, I always call at least once or twice, just to make sure they remember! The biggest reason I don't travel more, sad to say.

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                                  suzigirl RE: tcamp Oct 29, 2013 02:16 PM

                                  I can't even imagine how livid I would be. Thankfully they survived. Someone would have to hold me back from beating the sitter.

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                                    fldhkybnva RE: suzigirl Oct 29, 2013 03:12 PM

                                    Seriously, I'm about to go find that person myself. A good friend often has me check his mail when he's gone and uh, set a reminder people! I never miss a day.

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                                      suzigirl RE: fldhkybnva Oct 29, 2013 04:53 PM

                                      I pet sit now and then and i put off a trip to the freaking ER to swing by to feed a clients birds and take them out to play for an hour. I brought my bf to help but I still went. By the way, have you seen my kitties pics on this thread? Just wondering from one pet parent to another. Your not the only one with a cutie.

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                                        fldhkybnva RE: suzigirl Oct 29, 2013 05:14 PM

                                        Oh no, why can't I see it? It's not your avatar?

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                                          fldhkybnva RE: suzigirl Oct 29, 2013 05:19 PM

                                          Woohoo, I found them! My oh my, you have some very cuddly kitties running around :) I just love them. They remind me of our family cat who was a Ragdoll which people often confuse with Siamese but generally have more fur and are a bit stockier. Thanks for pointing them out to me, Take now has cousins!

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                                            suzigirl RE: fldhkybnva Oct 29, 2013 05:50 PM

                                            Chow is kind of limited from my tablet so I have no avatar but they would be it. They are Siamese/ silver Bengal mix mutts. They are wonderful cats. Let Take know his kitty cousins are named Cashmere and Romo (I named her and James named Romo for Tony Romo from the Cowboys. Yes he is FANatic.)

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                              splatgirl RE: meatn3 Oct 22, 2012 10:18 AM

                              9 out of 10 cats surveyed agree that forbidden water just tastes best!
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                              especially if it belongs to a non-cat owning guest who will be horrified, no matter how fast they are given a replacement or how many apologies are supplied.

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                                pinehurst RE: splatgirl Oct 22, 2012 04:29 PM

                                Re weird water drinking. Our dog insists on going into the bathroom after DH has just stepped out of the shower and licking "dry" his calves. We call him "Squeegee Boy" when he does this, and sing it to the tune of "Ouija Board, Ouija Board" by Morrissey.

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                                  foiegras RE: pinehurst Nov 6, 2012 07:55 PM

                                  Funny ... my dogs have been known to do this.

                                  I am so glad that dogs cannot get up and walk on the kitchen counters and stove! Shelties are especially sensitive to fat. I cook for them, so real food is what they eat, but I am very careful with saturated fat. If I found a stick of butter had been stolen, I'd freak out!

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                                    suzigirl RE: foiegras Nov 6, 2012 08:13 PM

                                    My siamese/Bengals love the tub. I had a Bengal that I lost in a divorce that took showers with me.not fully wet but a big shower and she hung out in the corner.

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                                      lagatta RE: suzigirl Jan 14, 2013 05:44 PM

                                      I had a Burmese like that - he loved water and would play with it.

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                                        fldhkybnva RE: suzigirl Oct 30, 2013 06:00 AM

                                        Take , too. He gets angry when I shower I think mostly that he can't find me but also because he likes to play in there but without the water. Now that he's ginormous, it's comical to watch him play the balance game trying to run on the ledge and repeatedly slipping in the tub and trying again.

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                                          mcf RE: fldhkybnva Oct 30, 2013 07:06 AM

                                          Wait until he discovers the view from the top of a shower door or rod.

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                                            goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 30, 2013 08:59 AM

                                            This.

                                            Sophie nearly gave me a heart attack the first time I turned around mid-shower and caught her perched above my head! She started pacing back & forth along the top of the shower doors, and I could see the wheels turning in her head as she tried to figure out how to jump *over* the spray of running water to get to the window ledge on the other side. Now Sasha loves to get up there as well, and I often have "company" while I'm showering. Yeah, it's a little weird :)

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                                  LindaWhit RE: meatn3 Nov 6, 2012 08:08 AM

                                  One of my cats prefers drinking out of the faucet (and I was warned about this). He'll drink out of the bowl, but prefers the bathroom faucet. I bought one of the pet fountains that you plug in and it continually moves the water, but it broke a few weeks ago. Need to get a new one.

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                                    mcf RE: LindaWhit Nov 6, 2012 05:27 PM

                                    I had a Drinkwell, but it took constant cleaning of cat hair out of the mechanism in the motor to keep it working. Big pain.

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                                      LindaWhit RE: mcf Nov 6, 2012 06:41 PM

                                      Mine was a cheapo Petco version, and never had a problem with the cat hair. A friend had an interesting looking one from a local pet store near her. I'll have to ask her the brand, as I can't find a picture of it.

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                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 6, 2012 07:43 PM

                                        my girls shed like crazy and the stainless Pioneer Pet Raindrop Fountain has been great for us - i just rinse it frequently. BTW, it's MUCH cheaper on Amazon than it is at Petco in case you're interested.

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                                          LindaWhit RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 7, 2012 05:40 AM

                                          ghg, thanks for the info. Looks like 3-pack of 3 filters (total of 9) are less on Amazon as well. Maybe I'll try this one instead of going back to Petco to see what else they have.

                                          I *am* still waiting on the brand name of the one I saw at my friend's house this weekend. Want to price that one out as well.

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                                            mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 7, 2012 06:38 AM

                                            The Drinkwell had a cylinder that moved in the motor at floor level, so even with clean floors and non heavy shedders, it would stop working right... I'm sure there are better designs out there, and maybe even the DW is improved now.

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                                              LindaWhit RE: mcf Nov 7, 2012 06:53 AM

                                              Here's the one my friend just told me about - problem is, according to one of the reviews, it says "replaceable carbon filters" and yet you can't FIND the filters anywhere (and she called the company directly). She ended up taking apart the "coal filter" and refilling it with aquarium-grade activated charcoal:

                                              http://www.petmountain.com/product/el...

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                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: LindaWhit Nov 7, 2012 09:02 AM

                                                that looks like plastic, which i don't like (i only use stainless or ceramic/porcelain for my girls when it comes to food & water). and the more "moving parts" you have, the more likely you'll have problems with it! i'm happy with the one we have.

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                                                  LindaWhit RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 7, 2012 09:19 AM

                                                  Yup, it is. Hard plastic like the Petco one I had where the motor stopped running (I wonder if that is recyclable?). Their food goes in ceramic dishes, so the water going in stainless steel makes sense. I'm probably going to order the one you linked, along with the order of three 3-pack filters.

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                                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: LindaWhit Nov 7, 2012 10:04 AM

                                                    yeah, i'd stay away from plastic. but regardless of which material you choose, rinse/clean the entire thing at least once a week - they all get slimy from that biofilm buildup.

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                                                      LindaWhit RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 7, 2012 10:08 AM

                                                      I know that for a fact with the plastic one. I need to make it a "Sunday morning while my coffee is brewing" Honey Do list item so I remember to do it on a regular basis.

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                                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: LindaWhit Nov 7, 2012 10:38 AM

                                                        happens with the stainless too - the first time i noticed it i was completely squicked out. now i just wash it every week, and it's fine.

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                                                          LindaWhit RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 7, 2012 10:43 AM

                                                          My picky kitteh never liked to use the water fountain when the bowl got slightly slimy, whereas the chunka-munka (Alfie) didn't mind. Then again, he doesn't drink out of the faucet as picky Buster does.

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                                                    lagatta RE: goodhealthgourmet Jan 14, 2013 05:48 PM

                                                    Moi aussi, goodhealth. My old friend Renzo only eats out of stainless, porcelain or Duralex tempered glass. He'll be 17 next month... (Black tomcat, half Siamese).

                                                    As for food, he becomes increasingly fussy in his dotage and won't eat some very expensive food I bought for him at the vet's... He loves poached chicken though.

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                                                  Isolda RE: mcf Nov 9, 2012 09:40 AM

                                                  Ours died because the motor got so hot. We had to keep adding ice cubes to the water to make it palatable to the cats. Having radiant heat in the kitchen floor didn't help either, so now we're back to having them either drink from the tap, or frequent refills of ice water in their bowls.

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                                            KrumTx RE: meatn3 Nov 20, 2012 06:46 AM

                                            My cat's favorite time of the year is almost here, as she loves drinking the Christmas tree's water. This means I have to toss the packet that keeps the tree perky. She also loves sleeping under the tree. She looks so sweet and angelic under the lights, but I swear she's still giving me the stink eye at all times.

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                                              rccola RE: KrumTx Nov 20, 2012 04:20 PM

                                              You're lucky not to have a cat who scales the tree just to knock off all the decorations--fragile glass ones first. If the tree doesn't fall over.

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                                        pinehurst RE: Perilagu Khan Oct 19, 2012 08:23 AM

                                        PK....Ben our hound LOVES butter so much that one of his nicknames is Mr. McButterpants. Once in a while, we'll bring home a little restaurant pat of good butter (like the Kerrygold pats you can get at Starbucks) and well, he's just in bliss.

                                        Freddy sounds like a handsome little rogue.

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                                        ebchower RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 07:09 AM

                                        Probably the most human like cat food is Petite Cuisine. My cats love it. It's available at most Petco stores. Aside from that, I give them some occasional chicken and they really like Gerber chicken #2 baby food as a treat.

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                                          coll RE: ebchower Oct 19, 2012 07:18 AM

                                          Gerber baby food is a lifesaver, literally, as they get into the last geriatric stages and start refusing food.

                                        2. Kat RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 08:07 AM

                                          Good to know that a little people food is OK, I didn't want to make the cat sick. I've already paid enough in vet bills!!

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                                            foodslut RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 08:13 AM

                                            Just steer clear of onions, which are very toxic. I fished my former feral-now snuggle buddy Munch out of a dish of enchiladas with green sauce the other day. He'd pulled of the layer of cheese and was chowing down on the pulled pork. Happily, he was fine, despite the spice factor... Our Maine Coon Emma Peel loves drinking out of DH's water glass on the coffee table. They are not allowed to bother us while we're eating, though...

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                                              coll RE: foodslut Oct 19, 2012 08:20 AM

                                              Our tabby tries to steal the olives out of Martinis, the first time he did it we had just taken him in and I was freaking out that I had an alcoholic cat on my hands. He just sticks his nose right in there!

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                                                escondido123 RE: coll Oct 21, 2012 12:47 PM

                                                I find one cat rolling in the sink after I'd emptied the liquid out of a jar of martini olives. So I put one on the floor for him to eat and inside he laid down on it to flatten it then rolled around on it.

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                                                  coll RE: escondido123 Oct 22, 2012 03:32 AM

                                                  There's definitely something about olives, at least for certain cats.

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                                                    Jack Flash RE: coll Nov 5, 2012 04:15 PM

                                                    For some cats, olive affects them similarly to catnip (olives, olive oil, olivewood). We have an olivewood cheese board. If it's left out, one of our felines will start licking it and rolling around on it, and cry like crazy if you take it away. I actually went to Crate & Barrel to buy him his own, personal olivewood condiment bowl. I bring it out on occasion and watch in amusement as he rolls around on the floor, loving it.

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                                                      suzigirl RE: Jack Flash Nov 5, 2012 06:13 PM

                                                      I have had a few cats that flip for olives including the two I have today. If they hear the sound of the olive jar(not pickles , as it has a different sound to them but not me) they come running. Not black olives though, just green. If i don't cave and give them a small bite or two my male Romo rubs his face on my hands over and over til he is satiated. So precious

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                                                  suzigirl RE: coll Nov 5, 2012 06:05 PM

                                                  I had a boozie cat named Fire(sister named Ice) that climbed my raised arm to get my wine and continued to do so until I had to add ice so she left it alone. I know that its a travesty to add ice to wine but what won't we do for the sake of the kitties? If i didn't add ice she was all over it, face in glass. Had to put her away when I had wine drinking friends over so she wouldn't end up hammered. Loved her with all my heart though.

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                                                  garlicvampire RE: foodslut Oct 19, 2012 11:05 AM

                                                  Some cats are spice heads. We had one that loved spicy wings (and over confident vet's fingers). He'd start to purr when he smelled them, eat until he went into a sneezing fit, drink water for a couple of minutes and come back to beg for more! The cat had my hubby trained to strip the meat off of at least 3 wings before ever starting to eat one for himself.

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                                                    letsindulge RE: garlicvampire Oct 19, 2012 12:07 PM

                                                    Lol! The things we do for our kittys. They're cute & they know it so that's how we become "trained" to comply to their every whim. I know I'm whipped when my husband claims I'm nicer to the cat then to him!

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                                                  MelMM RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 08:23 AM

                                                  Chives are a no-no. But in general, small amounts of people food won't hurt.

                                                  I have one guy who loves puffed millet. To me, puffed millet has the taste and texture of styrofoam. Of course, this cat has also been known to eat styrofoam if he can get his paws on any, so his taste in foodstuffs is far from gourmand. In the past, I've had cats who would go crazy for fresh tomatoes, and one that was a "chile-head" and loved insanely hot Thai and Indian curries.

                                                5. pinehurst RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 08:23 AM

                                                  No, not weird Kat (good :-) name!) Our vet told us that most cat food is said to be "tastier' than most dog food because cats have higher standards! In fact, we had one dog that would only eat dog food if it was "cut" with dry or wet cat food (this was our now departed Staffordshire terrier).

                                                  Our hound, Ben, who really likes everything has been known to scarf Fancy Feast from his kitty cousin's dish when we visit my sister in law. Sister in law's cat then gets a can of salmon. I think Ben and Kitty are in cahoots.

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                                                    coll RE: pinehurst Oct 19, 2012 08:28 AM

                                                    Most cat food tastes better to dogs because it is higher in protein, due to cats being carnivores while dogs are omnivores. I've heard vets recommend it as a mix-in to picky dogs.

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                                                      cosmogrrl RE: pinehurst Oct 27, 2012 02:30 AM

                                                      I used to have a tabby, two Yorkies, and an Akita. Feeding time was interesting as the Cat wanted to eat the Yorkies' food, the Yorkies wanted the cat food, and the Akita wanted everyone's food. I had to stand watch.

                                                      My current cat loves Cheetos, she even knows the sound of the bag.

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                                                        mcf RE: cosmogrrl Oct 27, 2012 07:34 AM

                                                        Don't all cats love Cheetos? Seriuosly, they either like to bat them around and kill them first, or chomp them right away. I have to stand guard so Fat Freddie doesn't swoop in on Jasper's leftovers... he's such a stealth moocher. After 3 lbs weight loss, he still needs to lose at least 3-5 more. I'm sure it'll be easier once he's off insulin.

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                                                      pasuga RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 10:33 AM

                                                      I've had cats most of my life and was used them begging for things like sardines and bacon and always gave them treats. Then I adopted a middle-aged Siamese who started going into an absolute frenzy over some tomato- based vegetable soup I brought home from the local health food store. Very aggressive, jumped in my lap and stuck his nose in the bowl, which wasn' his usual behavior. I called the vet about that one and she just laughed

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                                                        jacquelyncoffey RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 10:39 AM

                                                        I had a kitty that I swear could smell frozen chicken, I could take ten different things out of the freezer, and when it was chicken, he was there, he adored it. I also had adopted a Maine coon cat, and I couldn't get her to eat. The woman who gave her to me told me she loved Smartfood Cheese popcorn, so I filled a bowl and she ate it all. Also, I was eating fried rice, and she jumped on the table. I thought she might pick out the pork chunks, but she started pulling out the scallions! (Didn't know then that cats, and dogs, I think, aren't supposed to eat onions) She was fine.

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                                                          ohmyyum RE: jacquelyncoffey Oct 20, 2012 10:06 AM

                                                          I personally hate smartfood popcorn but I occasionally pick up one of the snack sized bags because the fatties adore it!

                                                        2. bagelman01 RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 02:09 PM

                                                          sounds like our cats..they eat their own dry and wet (meat varieties in gravy only). , theywill not eat cat fish variety food.
                                                          However, they love people food: turkey, beef, cold cuts, crackers, cereal and fish. The oldest one loves pasta in tomato sauce.
                                                          \We have fed people food to cats and dogs for more than 30 years with no problems.
                                                          We did lose a dog (my avatar, Bailey) to the phoney Chinese wheat gluten in commercial dog food about 5 years ago.
                                                          I trust the food we cook, I don't really trust commercial pet food.

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                                                            KSlink RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 02:42 PM

                                                            While reclining on the couch with deli paper covering everything, I once had my two little fur babies come tippy toeing up to my steak, onion and cheese grinder and start pulling out bits of meat, me eating from one end and them from the other. I found it hilarious but only let it continue for a few nibbles on their part.......

                                                            1. gaffk RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 04:05 PM

                                                              Cats are odd. I had a little 6 lb calico that showed no interest in people food (unless you consider canned tuna people food ;) she survived 21 years on a steady diet of Iams and tuna (chunk lite in water).

                                                              My current monsters (15 lb tuxedo girls) are siblings, but very different. Malgato will camp out at your feet if chicken is on the table. And she'll whine endlessly if she suspects there is leftover chicken in the fridge. When she was younger she ate more people food (bacon, cream, the end of an Italian hoagie she grabbed out of my hand while I was reading), but now it's just chicken and an occasional piece of steak.

                                                              Mole isn't in to any people food except dairy. Well, truthfully you have to guard ice cream and butter if either are around. While Malgato scarfs down the chicken, Mole just whines for her crispy treats. I used to claim she was the dumbest cat on Earth, but then I realized how well she had trained me to feed her treats in certain spots or circumstances.

                                                              And yes, guard your ice water as well. (And I swear, they always have fresh water in a nice glass bowl.)

                                                              ETA: And they were both at the vet last week and are in perfect health . . .so a little people food doesn't hurt.

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                                                                jumpingmonk RE: gaffk Oct 19, 2012 04:24 PM

                                                                Our current cat LOVES people food (so did her predecessor). She will insist on trying/ getting a cut of practically everything we eat (though I have made sure that if it is something meat related, she only gets center fragments, as we tend to add a lot of onions and garlic to the rubs we put on the surfaces). But then there is the matter of the boneless Chinese spareribs. While she will nibble at most foods placed in front of her (and try to steal some other if you place them somewhere she can get to and walk away. She approaches ribs like crack, she will actually shove you out of the way to get to them. It actually gotten to the point where, if I want ribs I have to close the door and lock it before I open the container. And of course, make sure I leave the container on the ground when I am done, so she can lick it clean. Her love for them in particlar is a little weird, as I swore I read that cat's can't actually taste sugar (there is of course the fattyness of the pork, but there are a lot of other fatty meat sources, and she doesn't react like that to them. And the place whose ribs she likes most loads the sauce with honey (maybe she likes the aromas) Or maybe the color (cats can actually see red if I recall, they just can't differentiate blues and greens)

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                                                                mwhitmore RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 05:01 PM

                                                                Keep in mind that cats have existed for thousands of years before catfood was invented. It is mostly a way of profitbly using foodsfuffs that you can't sell to humans. As long as you avoid bad stuff (chocolate,onion...google a list!) and keep the food in a reasonable balance of protein/veg/fat, you should be just fine.

                                                                1. viperlush RE: Kat Oct 19, 2012 06:12 PM

                                                                  My first cat Oreo was the sneakiest cat that I knew. She could remove lunch meat from a sandwich without shifting the bread. And she went crazy for smoked fish.

                                                                  My recently deceased big blue cat Macavity was obsessed with lamb. He liked other meats, but as soon as he smelled lamb he would meow and beg until given a taste. Even my father who is not too fond of cats would make sure that Mac got a share. Didn't matter if the lamb was grilled or part of an Indian dish. He wanted it. Unfortunately he got diabetes and was placed a very restrictive diet so we stopped giving him all treats to maintain his weight.

                                                                  As a kitten my Siamese Mr Frankie Blue Eyes (aka Yankee Frankie) started off eating anything and everything. Now he won't eat any human food except for the occasional lick of ice cream. However he will jump on the table/my shoulder/my lap to see what I am eating. If it looks interesting he will gently guide the fork from my mouth to his nose to get a sniff.

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                                                                    relizabeth RE: Kat Oct 20, 2012 07:31 AM

                                                                    we tamed our feral beast with canned salmon. the feral cat ladies we consulted recommended feeding her fried chicken. the first few months we had her, she gnawed up raw potatoes, loaves of bread. we think it is because the food of her kittenhood was from fish n chip joints. now her palate is a bit more educated: meow mix, a daily dollop of yogurt, occasional pats of butter or shavings of cheese. she is also fond of gnawing on our parsley plant.

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                                                                      jacquelyncoffey RE: Kat Oct 20, 2012 09:09 AM

                                                                      I had a cat that would chase you around the house if he saw you eating an Oreo. He liked to lick the chocolate cookie, wasn't a bit interested in the cream filling. I didn't know then that cats and dogs (mostly) shouldn't have chocolate. He was fine, no ill effects ever.

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                                                                        ohmyyum RE: Kat Oct 20, 2012 10:27 AM

                                                                        My fatties enjoy shrimp, chicken, turkey, turkey bacon, tuna. All normal-ish for cats I think. However, they also love produce-- lettuce, spinach, cabbage, avocado, chickpeas, frozen edamame, papaya, cantaloupe, banana-- and it's funny to see how each have their own preferences. Ugly will eat seasoned meat/seafood but Chubba will not touch it.
                                                                        Other people food they enjoy are oatmeal, mac and cheese, grilled cheese, scrambled eggs, BUTTER, sliced almonds, unsweetened shaved coconut, and oddly enough.. mini marshmallows! All if I have to do is whisper "mush" and they come running from wherever they are hiding. Chubba recently licked all the peanut butter off a piece.of toast. Rambo loves lemon pepper tuna from the pouch which is weird because she will hiss at you if you come near her after having peeled and eaten a navel orange or clementine.

                                                                        In short, cats are weird.

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                                                                          goodhealthgourmet RE: ohmyyum Oct 21, 2012 01:03 PM

                                                                          ditto for my girls on the unsweetened shaved coconut, which i just discovered last night! i knocked over the open bag and a bunch of it scattered on the floor - they got to it before i could sweep it all up. Sophie was happy just licking the pieces, but Sasha chomped away, and got pissed at me when there wasn't any left :)

                                                                          oh, and i think i can explain the citrus disparity with Rambo - the lemon in the tuna is overpowered by the more appealing fish aroma, but when you peel an orange or clementine,you get the concentrated oils on your hands and there's nothing else to mask the scent.

                                                                        2. tracylee RE: Kat Oct 20, 2012 11:46 AM

                                                                          I was raised not to feed pets from the table...ever! I still follow that rule, and if I have something I think they'll enjoy - tuna oil, beef picked out of stock, etc. I will hold it until some random time and give it to them in one of their cat dishes. That way they don't associate it with me cooking or eating. Both the ex-husband and ex-bf would feed them while eating, so I kept a squirt bottle handy. For the men! I'd get home after being out of town, and suddenly the cats were begging.

                                                                          My old Siamese, Tobiko is fine with that, and rarely yowls when I cook. However, in his old age, he's taken to sleeping on the DR table when not on my lap (kicking everything off in the process) and gets really upset when I eat and try to read and won't let him join in.

                                                                          My young tabby, Abby, seems to want to eat anything. She doesn't eat off the counter tops, but lately, if I wake up in the middle of the night, I'll have some Wheat Chex as a snack. I caught her eating the crumbs out of the dish in the morning. Yesterday she was sucking down coconut oil from a dish on the bathroom counter, that I'd used for a hair treatment.

                                                                          That being said, I'm always a bit miffed at seeing the fresh foods for dogs and not for cats, so the other day while grocery shopping and picking up they're usual Temptations treats, I turned around and saw the Beneful tubs for dogs. This morning they got a couple of spoonfuls each, as opposed to their usual 1/2 can of Friskies. They snarfed the stuff down, including the barley, carrots and green beans! I was pretty surprised, but they were very happy kitties.

                                                                          1. Parigi RE: Kat Oct 20, 2012 04:16 PM

                                                                            My childhood cat was what the French would call a Fine Gueule. He ate nothing but fresh fish (tiny fish, inexpensive, fresh from the market, NOT supermarket) mixed with rice. Hot of course. :-)
                                                                            There is a theory that cats like warm food. They are hunters by heritage, and like food temperature that is similar to fresh kill.

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                                                                              MelMM RE: Parigi Oct 20, 2012 04:23 PM

                                                                              Another theory that some cats will prove wrong. I feed a raw diet, and I have one who likes it best just barely thawed, with ice crystals still in it. You can't pigeonhole a cat.

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                                                                                Parigi RE: MelMM Oct 20, 2012 04:53 PM

                                                                                "You can't pigeonhole a cat."
                                                                                True.
                                                                                Most people think cats run away just hearing the vacuum cleaner.
                                                                                There are many cats who love to have their fur ruffled by it ! No kidding !
                                                                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i5mB1...
                                                                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xGo5...
                                                                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvWGnX...

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                                                                              buzzardbreath RE: Kat Oct 20, 2012 06:44 PM

                                                                              My cat goes bonkers if she looks in the kitchen window and sees me open a can of tuna...she wants the tuna water and will give me no rest until it is in her food bowl. She also likes bits of onion from our roasts. (I draw the line at giving her some of the garlic. I heard that might not be the best thing for her.)

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                                                                                rockycat RE: Kat Oct 20, 2012 06:45 PM

                                                                                We had to invent the "pizza cage" (an inverted dish rack) to keep a previous cat from stealing slices of homemade pizza. He also went crazy the few times we had lobster. Another previous cat would shove his head into a glass to lick up tomato juice. It worked just fine when he was a kitten. Not so well when he was full-grown. He also liked olives quite a bit
                                                                                Our little old lady cat loved blue cheese and melon when she was younger. Now she limits herself to tuna water.
                                                                                Our current younger cats are completely uninterested in people food.

                                                                                On the water front, we also have a dirty water fan. It doesn't matter how much fresh water I would put out or how convenient it was, the little girl would stalk the shower, waiting for the water to stop so that she could run in and lap up the soapy nasty stuff. She's taught that trick to our younger female. Oddly enough, none of our male cats have ever done that.

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                                                                                  coll RE: rockycat Oct 21, 2012 02:56 AM

                                                                                  Our oldest guy just recently started with the dirty shower water thing. Maybe he likes your scent more than you do? I have to close the door for awhile until it's dry again, it's too gross with all the soap in there.

                                                                                2. eclecticsynergy RE: Kat Oct 21, 2012 09:36 AM

                                                                                  My kitty was feral when I adopted her. Had never been indoors- during her first weeks inside, she killed all my large houseplants peeing in the dirt, though when they died off and disappeared she eventually consented to make do with the litterbox. She remained half wild for quite a long time; but after nearly three years together she allows me to consider her half tame. Still gets explosively freaked out if picked up, but if I remain very still, she will sometimes jump up on my lap to be stroked. And she likes to curl up in my outstretched arm when I lie in bed. Of course,we've agreed that this is strictly for warmth, so I don't develop any overblown feeling of my own importance in this relationship...

                                                                                  When she was living wild there was a stream nearby with minnows in it, and she still comes dashing in after the toilet flushes, hoping to find tasty silvery playthings in the running water. She will perch motionless on the edge of a full bathtub too, watching with a hunter's patience for little fishy treats that never have quite appeared. Yet.

                                                                                  She says that while she's mostly satisfied with cat food, she does love all kinds of fresh meats and fresh or canned fish, along with cream, sour cream and butter. Those are not surprising, I guess. Is entirely uninterested in most coldcuts, except for turkey and rare roast beef. And pastrami, her favorite. She likes organic yogurt, but will not touch the regular stuff. And while she doesn't like plain milk, she'll go nuts for the remnants of sweetened milk left in a cereal bowl. They may be right when they say most cats can't taste sugar but, like the OP's, this one sure seems to. She doesn't have any especially quirky favorites like some other cats I've known, though she's been seen to steal a clawful of mushroom now and then. Come to think of it, I've sometimes caught her licking seasoned salt off the shaker top too.

                                                                                  My last cat had a passion for black olives and loved them until he was quite old; he only gave up on them around age twenty-three, shortly before he passed away. And my first cat, when I was a kld, loved canned asparagus, of all things. Not real asparagus, only the awful canned stuff. Go figure.

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                                                                                    coll RE: eclecticsynergy Oct 21, 2012 11:19 AM

                                                                                    My one cat liked fresh asparagus, but only the tips. If I brought some home, I couldn't leave it on the counter because when I turned around, all there was were stalks. Took after my husband in that respect.

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                                                                                      escondido123 RE: coll Oct 21, 2012 12:49 PM

                                                                                      I had one that liked them too, so I figured why not get him canned ones once in awhile. I put a few on a plate and he sniffed once, then turned away, giving me the old stink eye.

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                                                                                        greygarious RE: escondido123 Oct 12, 2013 06:41 PM

                                                                                        One of my Siamese came running whenever I opened canned asparagus. It was the water he wanted, and he'd gulp down everything that drained from the can at one sitting. He had no interest in the asparagus itself. Not something that started with me offering it to him - he smelled it from wherever in the house he was, and beelined to the kitchen counter. I am his breeder, so I know he had no prior history with it.

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                                                                                    rochfood RE: Kat Oct 21, 2012 10:05 AM

                                                                                    My cats breath smells like cat food

                                                                                    1. mcf RE: Kat Oct 21, 2012 01:08 PM

                                                                                      I have one cat who will do anything for cheddar cheese, the more aged and sharp, the better. Only way to pill him, besides greenie treats. I have a very obese orange tabby who's been visiting for a year and a half and recently diagnosed diabetic, but rapidly remitting and losing weight on very high protein, low carb grain free diet and small insulin doses twice daily. Anything turkey, or even a whiff that I might be eating something that could drop on the floor brings him running. He's just always Winnie Pooh like. It's always time for a "little something."
                                                                                      My tiny tortie is fussy and only eats dry food, I add probiotics and some water to it. All three are geriatric, look great except for Fat Freddie's need for more weight loss, much more, and all three have health issues, never in my life have I had to pill, inject or get steroids into my cats, now I have a 3 kitty infirmary.

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                                                                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 21, 2012 01:16 PM

                                                                                        i had Sophie on a week-long course of twice-daily antibiotics after a trip to the ER recently, and i ended up having to just shove the pills down her throat, which actually proved to be less of a hassle than i had anticipated. i tried the Greenies pill pockets first, but she caught on after the third dose, and now she won't touch them even if they're empty. now she's suspicious of ALL treats as a result - when i give her anything she bats it around with her paw for a bit to make sure there's nothing undesirable hidden inside before eating it. i'm buying cream cheese if we have to go the pill route again - that was my trick for Lulu & Felix, and it always worked.

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                                                                                          mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 21, 2012 04:50 PM

                                                                                          The thing with Jasper is, if I had to pill him, I've always said he'd have to die, because he'd shred me. He's nutty, anxious and crazed even getting Frontline drops on his skin. He stopped eating cheese with a pill in it, and I don't have pockets, just treats he loves so much that he eagerly licks it all out of my hand, never noticing the pill. That's only when he hasn't eaten his food and I haven't gotten the chicken flavored prednisolone into him, though. He's back to eating cheddar, now that it never has meds in it. I can't even medicate him transdermally, he starting freaking out every time I came near him, the sensation made him freak out. Pilling Zoe is a cinch, just hold her open her mouth, and pitch it far back, she's tiny and gently. Freddy doesn't even notice his injections while he's eating, which is Very Serious Business for him. Down to 19.2 from 22 severely obese lbs today... ever since cutting out dry food (very high protein/low carb) and using only grain free wet.

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                                                                                            goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 21, 2012 07:44 PM

                                                                                            poor babies :( you're a good mommy. have you tried burritoing them with a towel or blanket to avoid getting scratched? i started doing it with Sophie to give her eye drops after she shredded my legs - through my yoga pants - trying to get away. ouch!

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                                                                                              mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 22, 2012 06:15 AM

                                                                                              GHG, the vet with a trained assistant looked like Lucy and Ethel in need of Xanax after the chocolate factory after visits with him. I had to call in house call vets because I can't always crate him... the noises he made for 30 minutes and their frightened, bloodless faces after the appt. were unreal. They sort of managed to get a large mattress pad over him once. He's less aggressive/anxious in a vet's office, but here at home, even in their mobile office, he was very hard to manage. He's MUCH less anxious and jittery on steroids, but stronger and more energetic, too.

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                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 22, 2012 09:55 AM

                                                                                                that's just heartbreaking. it's awesome of you to hang in there with him - sadly most people would have given up at this point.

                                                                                                it's too bad you don't live here in So Cal, i'd send Jackson Galaxy over to help you out ;)

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                                                                                                  mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 22, 2012 10:32 AM

                                                                                                  He's super affectionate, cuddly and possessive toward me and he used to be with strangers until we took our first vacation a year after we got him. He's a tail sucker, too. He purrs like a motor boat, always has to touch my face, rub it, have me kiss his forehead... the mobile vet said she has an anxious cat like Jasper (black cat, too!) and that she'd have to put him down and would do so with Jasper before recco of hospital time or extensive treatment due to the stress. He's got presumed lymphoma though I suspect adrenal disorder. In any case, he's shiny, active, affectionate as long as you don't smell like a vet or a stranger or try to put goo on him. :-)

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                                                                                                    meatn3 RE: mcf Oct 25, 2012 10:01 PM

                                                                                                    I had a black cat (body style and personality of a Siamese) who is very much like this. Super sweet and friendly but has huge issues with any form of confinement - even being held. The last vet trip the carrier looked like something possessed by a demon was in it. Gussy (Angus since he is so bullheaded) also is high strung and prone to nervousness and over grooming.

                                                                                                    When my ex and I split I suggested Gussy stay (house belonged to ex). They had bonded strongly and I was reluctant to put the cat through the stress of relocation. I miss him (the cat) but the decision has been a good one. Gus seems much happier as an only pet.

                                                                                                    My three cats were like the three bears - The eldest thinks he wants any people food he sees. Gussy has almost no interest unless it is tuna water. The baby watches the eldest. If the eldest actually likes the treat then the baby saunters over and tries to confiscates it for himself!

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                                                                                                      mcf RE: meatn3 Oct 26, 2012 10:56 AM

                                                                                                      Jasper loves to be held; when he was a kitten, as soon as you picked him up, he'd climb up your chest and insist in jamming his little head under your chin and staying there. He was that way with everyone who came to our home til our first vacation. I saw so many grown black cats that no one wanted in shelters when we went looking... I love black cats now, he's my first. And I always go for the underdog.

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                                                                                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 26, 2012 11:23 AM

                                                                                                        Sasha & Sophie are my first blackies - in the past i've had calico, Russian, blue & tortie. but i just couldn't resist these two, and when the rescue organization told me how difficult it was for them to find good, loving homes for black cats, i knew i had to take them. i'm thankful that they're happy being 100% indoors, because this time of year it's not safe for black cats to be out.

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                                                                                                          mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 26, 2012 02:40 PM

                                                                                                          Jasper is my first and I adopted him with Zoe, my little dark tortie calico. I used to have such severe allergic reactions to calicos that I couldn't even see. Now, pretty much no cat allergies. Mine don't go out and they're not eager too. I wasn't prepared for the day that Freddy bolted out the door, to the extent the tub of lard can move. Of course, it took a few seconds to open a can of food that stopped him in his tracks and proved irrestistible.

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                                                                                                          meatn3 RE: mcf Oct 26, 2012 03:54 PM

                                                                                                          Gussy wants to be right next you every moment. He will sit on your lap too. But he doesn't care to be picked up. He's a talker and comments on just about everything!

                                                                                                          The rescue group that I adopted him from wouldn't adopt black cats in October. It is stunning that people are still so hostile towards black cats.

                                                                                                          BTW, love the name Jasper!. I've wanted to use if for about 30 years now but it just hasn't fit any of the cats who have come into my life.

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                                                                                                            goodhealthgourmet RE: meatn3 Oct 26, 2012 06:34 PM

                                                                                                            my rescue group is the same way - won't adopt out black cats this month. there are some sickos out there. Sophie is a chatterbox like Gussy - i have full conversations with her, and at first she was really skittish but she's warming up to being held. Sasha was basically mute at first, but she's starting to speak up....and she's been a total snugglebunny since day one.

                                                                                                            unfortunately this new raw diet has the two of them so excited that they stand in the kitchen and HOWL at me for their food - it's gotten rather noisy around here!!

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                                                                                                              mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 26, 2012 06:56 PM

                                                                                                              My cats would not go raw, they didn't even recognize it as food, maybe due to age? I tried gradual introduction, treating it like treats, etc. Jasper and Zoe got fussy all of a sudden as kittens. Jasper only eats crap food now from a can, Friskies shreds, I'm embarrased to say. Freddie will eat almost anything, he's on BG turkey/grain free.

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                                                                                                                cleobeach RE: mcf Oct 26, 2012 07:07 PM

                                                                                                                I adore chatty cats (as I should spending my past 20 years with two Siamese).

                                                                                                                I tried to switch mine to a raw diet after the female developed diabetis but they would not even take a nibble. She has since past away.

                                                                                                                For the next round of cats (the male is stil with us) I may do at least a partially raw diet.

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                                                                                                                  mcf RE: cleobeach Oct 27, 2012 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                  BG canned is great for my diabetic cat. Wellness Core, very hard on urinary tract, and they overeat it because they love it too much, too, but controlled DM also.

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                                                                                                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 26, 2012 07:13 PM

                                                                                                                  i'm really grateful that the girls took to it immediately and so heartily...though i could do without the yelling ;) i'm sure it helps that they're so young.

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                                                                                                                    cleobeach RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 26, 2012 07:40 PM

                                                                                                                    The vet practice we use endorses a raw diet. They all say there would be far less later-in-life health problems if cats didn't have such a carb heavy diet found in even the best commercial cat food.

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                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet RE: cleobeach Oct 27, 2012 09:43 AM

                                                                                                                      i'm guessing my Lulu would have been a lot less rotund if i had gone raw with her. i tried all the low-cal and lower-carb kibble with her, but none of it made much of a dent in her excess weight. she didn't like canned food - unless it was MY tuna or sardines! - and i didn't know from raw pet food at the time. she died in 2003, and she was only 11 years old. it breaks my heart to think that we would have had more time together if i had known better.

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                                                                                                                        mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 27, 2012 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                        Chances are she had a disorder that led to that failure to lose... I'm sure Freddy's insane appetite is, too. I'm sure she had the best of all possible lives with you.

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                                                                                                                      mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 27, 2012 07:36 AM

                                                                                                                      Yes, changing her diet requires Flagyl until we taper off to just added probiotics for Zoe. 13 y.o. Stopped eating canned suddenly in her first year, too.

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                                                                                                                    gembellina RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 5, 2012 01:37 PM

                                                                                                                    hold on, what? what happens to black cats? I'm glad I read this after October and my black kitty survived intact!

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                                                                                                                      gaffk RE: gembellina Nov 5, 2012 02:01 PM

                                                                                                                      Don't know about other areas of the world, but in the US there are always stories of black cats being abused/maimed/killed "in honor" of Halloween. I suspect these folks are the ones who grow up to be serial killers.

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                                                                                                                        gembellina RE: gaffk Nov 5, 2012 02:10 PM

                                                                                                                        Ok I'm very glad I didn't know that before Hallowe'en! I worry enough about her falling off things and getting into fights with squirrels without having to worry about crazy people too.

                                                                                                                        Imagine no more little face popping up to try and steal boiled eggs on toast with bovril! No more tongue marks in the butter, no-one to eat the salmon skin from the can! Actually I wouldn't mind if there were no more tongue marks in the butter.

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                                                                                                                          gaffk RE: gembellina Nov 5, 2012 02:16 PM

                                                                                                                          Actually I wouldn't mind if there were no more tongue marks in the butter.
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                                                                                                                          LOL. Just yesterday I was enjoying breakfast while reading the Sunday paper. Silly me, I forgot to put the cover back on the butter dish. Looked up to see a big black cat having a very good Sunday breakfast herself ;) Fortunately, there wasn't much left on the dish, so I just let her have it.

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                                                                                                                            gembellina RE: gaffk Nov 5, 2012 02:20 PM

                                                                                                                            My boyfriend swears that giving her a little butter every day helps her with hairballs...

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                                                                                                                              gaffk RE: gembellina Nov 5, 2012 02:58 PM

                                                                                                                              And my vet thinks a little taste of butter occasionally is why that cat's fur is so much smoother and silkier than the other monster (they're from the same litter).

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                                                                                                                                gembellina RE: gaffk Nov 5, 2012 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                                Well if it's medically approved...! Penny is very shiny too, maybe that's why. Certainly nothing to do with her own grooming as she's quite happy to walk around with slugs stuck in her belly fur and leaves in her tail.

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                                                                                                                          lagatta RE: gaffk Jan 14, 2013 05:50 PM

                                                                                                                          They are serial killers - of cats and kittens (and other small innocent beasties). Yes, many go on to be serial or ritualistic killers of humans. We had a horrible case of that in Montréal recenty (though he wasn't from here). I won't go into details.

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                                                                                                                          meatn3 RE: gembellina Nov 5, 2012 03:34 PM

                                                                                                                          Some people associate black cats with bad luck, especially if one crosses you path.
                                                                                                                          I worked (briefly thank goodness) with a guy who said he tried to run over black cats because they were evil. He was dead serious - I was completely appalled and sickened by this. There are still idiots about...

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                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 5, 2012 03:44 PM

                                                                                                                            'There are still idiots about...'

                                                                                                                            You said a mouthful.

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                                                                                                                              gaffk RE: meatn3 Nov 5, 2012 03:49 PM

                                                                                                                              Ouch , an animal is evil because of the color of its fur. . .I even brake for sqirrels (but know people who aim for them ;(

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                                                                                                                          mcf RE: meatn3 Oct 26, 2012 06:55 PM

                                                                                                                          It just fits him... I've never had a cat that made me think of the name before. I was in disbelief when they explained all the left behind black kittens and adult cats.
                                                                                                                          So sad.

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                                                                                                                            LindaWhit RE: meatn3 Nov 6, 2012 08:23 AM

                                                                                                                            I called one of my late kitties "Jaspurr" - because he did. Lots. ;-)

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                                                                                                                              mcf RE: LindaWhit Nov 6, 2012 05:27 PM

                                                                                                                              Mine purrs so loudly that we cannot hear the TV when he's in bed with us, especially while he's sucking his tail. The original motorboat kitty. :-)

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                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 6, 2012 05:56 PM

                                                                                                                                So cute. Never seen a kitty suck his tail. Bet that's a hoot to watch. I had a ginger tabby male that used to knead fabrics(especially my clothes and mostly on me or my best friend)into the perfect way and then suck on them and kneadlike he was nursing. Poor little thing came up to me in a closed car lot so tiny and hungry. Less than two months for sure. His mama probably got hit I assume. I took him home and on the way we stopped at the store for food and supplies.i was going to feed him a nibble in the car and he claimed straight in the bag. Sweet boy got named Munchie right then. Lover kitty. :-)

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                                                                                                                                  mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 6, 2012 07:00 PM

                                                                                                                                  It's actually kind of gross, and all wet and slimy when he turns around and drags it across your arm or cheek! He started sucking on it when he was about 3 mos old.

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                                                                                                                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: suzigirl Nov 6, 2012 07:43 PM

                                                                                                                                    @suzigirl, fabric kneading & sucking is a classic sign that Munchie was weaned too early - obviously unintentionally :(

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                                                                                                                                      suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 6, 2012 07:58 PM

                                                                                                                                      Oh sweetie, I know. I was his surrogate mommy and was happy to be it. He loved me and was my 'puppycat'. Loved me like a dog walked me to the busstop and waited at the door for me to come home. He knew I saved him like most rescues. They make the best cats. They get it.I wouldn't have it any other way. The two I have are rescues. The breeder had Siamese and Bengals and she had a whoopsie with the two. She treated them like trash and dropped them at a shelter. She couldent sell them. Poor babies. Love them like my kids. So sweet

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                                                                                                                                        mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 7, 2012 06:39 AM

                                                                                                                                        Jasper has intense attachment and also separation anxiety, so that makes sense. I know he was a rescue and bottle raised til we adopted him at 10 weeks, and my Zoe was a feral who was extremely shy; she and two sibs were fostered after loss of their mother at 3 weeks, I was told.

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                                                                                                                                          rockycat RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 7, 2012 08:10 PM

                                                                                                                                          Both of my girl cats knead like crazy. Their brothers (a boy and a girl each from 2 different litters) don't. Go figure.

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                                                                                                                                            mcf RE: rockycat Nov 8, 2012 07:38 AM

                                                                                                                                            Of my three, Freddy kneads after dinner nightly at least, in one spot only, on his fleece pad on top of a shelf between book cases over a radiator, site specific and occasion specific, mostly. Jasper occasionally kneads atop me in bed, but he's mostly a committed tail sucker. Zoe only does it when she'd on my shoulder, nuzzling my hair, digging her sharp little claws into my flesh.

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                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 8, 2012 09:31 AM

                                                                                                                                              both my girls always try to eat my hair, particularly when i'm on the couch. i have a nice slash on my left shoulder from two nights ago when Sasha was back there going for it, i moved, and she slipped. ouch!

                                                                                                                                              on a more food-related note, Sophie has suddenly decided to turn her nose up at their food. yesterday it was the raw - she refused to eat it at either meal, so i gave her some kibble, which she finished. today she snubbed the raw again so i gave her the kibble, but she walked away after a few bites. i know she's hungry because she woke me up to feed her & went nuts when i was in the kitchen...and she's playing normally with her sis. i can't figure out what's up with the sudden choosiness. she wouldn't go for the raw when i sprinkled it with parm either.

                                                                                                                                              she even rejected an olive last night, which surprised me because she's the catnip addict...but Sasha wolfed hers down & looked for more.

                                                                                                                                              what to do, what to do...

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                                                                                                                                                mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 8, 2012 09:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                If it keeps up, I'd see the vet... I've managed to, after over a decade, gradually move Zoe over to the same BG turkey that Freddy's eating. She still has diarrhea and this is so much healthier than the other stuff she was eating. She walked away and ate little of her food yesterday, but after a visit to her litter, was willing and able to polish it off after. Now have only Jasper eating crappy food, Friskies; hope to gradually help him to accept BG turkey also.

                                                                                                                                                I have so many holes in my light summer jammies, since lying down is the only time Zoe climbs up to my neck. She freaks if I sneeze or Tom moves and she is very bad about digging in and getting stuck, not a good claw retractor, they always click on the floor like dog nails, too.

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                                                                                                                                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 8, 2012 09:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                  yeah, i'm holding off on the vet until i see how it plays out for another couple of days. she has no problem with their treats! i did realize that this started with the first meal that didn't contain the Vital Complete i had been mixing in there. i'm going to buy some today & see if she'll eat it. if so, i'll just go back to that raw + cooked combo.

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                                                                                                                                                    mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 8, 2012 09:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Oh, definitely try that. Zoe is crazy about her FloriStor in food, goes after it with much more gusto that way, too. I think that's why I've been able to get her to try foods she'd walked away from before it.

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                                                                                                                                                    foiegras RE: mcf Nov 8, 2012 03:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I have dogs, but just wanted to note that I had very good success with Gentle Digest. It's a supplement that comes in capsules that you can sprinkle over food (or mix in). What I found was that if I opened it, my dog would eat the capsule and powder--if not, it would just be left mangled.

                                                                                                                                                    She came with serious digestive issues (puppy mill rescue) ... she had every parasite known to man, it seemed, and finally they all got sorted, but her digestion was still weak. Now she's three, has good digestion, and I even weaned her off the Gentle Digest (this was accidental as I ran out and couldn't get to the store immediately--and she turned out OK without it).

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                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: foiegras Nov 8, 2012 03:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                      It was probably a probiotic? That's what we're using, but it's specific to cats. Mine love it, too, mixed into food.

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                                                                                                                                                        foiegras RE: mcf Nov 9, 2012 01:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Yes, it's prebiotics and probiotics, for both dogs and cats.

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                                                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 8, 2012 07:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                      got some Vital Complete on my way home this evening, and Sophie ate! i'm so relieved. i guess the kid digs that egg/seafood combo!

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                                                                                                                                                        mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 9, 2012 07:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Great news!

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                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 9, 2012 07:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                          What a relief. Good for you Sophie. Keep it up. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                            goodhealthgourmet RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 9, 2012 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                            i jinxed it :( she must have just been hungry enough to eat anything last night, because this morning she wouldn't eat again...so i sat with her and picked out a few pieces of the Vital Complete and she ate those, but wouldn't touch anything that had the raw food on it. i finally caved and gave her a bowl of just the Vital and she gobbled it down like it was her last meal ever.

                                                                                                                                                            gah!

                                                                                                                                                            (meanwhile, her oinkster sis snarfed down her own breakfast and then tried to go after Sophie's.)

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                                                                                                                                                              suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 10, 2012 03:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                              How is Sophie? Update please.

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                                                                                                                        Hobbert RE: Kat Oct 21, 2012 05:10 PM

                                                                                                                        I've got two and one is a completely textbook cat- she sleeps, eat dry food, and spends inordinate amounts of time curling up on various pillows. The other one only pretends to be a cat. I suspected he was different and confirmed this when, at 3 am one morning several years ago, I woke up to him munching on frozen shrimp in my bed. Maybe he wanted to share? This was after all the cabinets got child safety locks due to his enjoyment of tortilla chips and rice. He also likes butter and cereal milk. I promptly took myself down to the pet food store and bought him a variety until he smugly allowed that he might enjoy a certain brand. Every 6-8 months, he changes his mind and we repeat this scenario. His one abiding love is ice. He hurls it around and flings it in the air. Occasionally, he eats it. But only occasionally.

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                                                                                                                          escondido123 RE: Hobbert Oct 21, 2012 05:52 PM

                                                                                                                          How did he get shrimp out of the freezer? My cats have tricks, but never one that impressive.

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                                                                                                                            Hobbert RE: escondido123 Oct 21, 2012 06:11 PM

                                                                                                                            I have no idea. I assume he perched on top of the fridge and shoved at the freezer door but I would have sworn a 12 pound cat wouldn't have the strength or leverage. He's a plotter.

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                                                                                                                              pasuga RE: Hobbert Oct 21, 2012 06:43 PM

                                                                                                                              That is SO funny! Thank for sharing.

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                                                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: Hobbert Oct 21, 2012 07:46 PM

                                                                                                                                they're unbelievably resourceful - mine have figured out how to slide the relatively heavy off-limits closet door open.

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                                                                                                                            ratgirlagogo RE: Kat Oct 21, 2012 07:17 PM

                                                                                                                            You never know what a cat is going to like. I had one that went out of his mind for cantaloupe and would tear apart the garbage to get at the rinds.
                                                                                                                            Earlier this week Mr. Rat and I got take-out BBQ and both our cats (in general not beggars) were pushing and shoving at our plates to get at - the meat? Oh no. The little cups of honey butter for the biscuits.

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                                                                                                                              escondido123 RE: ratgirlagogo Oct 21, 2012 08:13 PM

                                                                                                                              Just like I found a cat in the sink rolling in olive "juice" a friend of mine found her cat in the sink "bathing" in the cantaloupe rinds. After that, he got actually pieces of the melon which he did enjoy.

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                                                                                                                                mcf RE: ratgirlagogo Oct 22, 2012 06:16 AM

                                                                                                                                I once knew a cantaloupe crazed cat, too!

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                                                                                                                                  susancinsf RE: ratgirlagogo Oct 27, 2012 09:00 PM

                                                                                                                                  my cat loves all melons, including cantaloupe, although her favorite is watermelon. She will jump on the table to eat the watermelon (she likes the red stuff, not the rinds)...it's the only food I've ever seen her jump on the table to go after...

                                                                                                                                  Unless melon is on the menu, she ignores us when we are eating...however, while I have never seen her on the stove, I have often woken up to find her prints on the stove...my assumption is that she is looking for left over spills...

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                                                                                                                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: susancinsf Oct 28, 2012 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                                    she may be looking for leftover warmth - most kitties love to sit/lie on anything that has warms :)

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                                                                                                                                      susancinsf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 30, 2012 08:08 PM

                                                                                                                                      hmmm, that makes sense...never thought of it, but if it were spills, you'd think she'd be interested in our dinner leftovers also. OTOH, I've seen those footprints even in August, when temps around here (I no longer live in SF, this is in the Great Central Valley) are often in triple digits...must be a real warmth seeking kitty.... :-)

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                                                                                                                                      Antilope RE: susancinsf Nov 12, 2012 06:36 AM

                                                                                                                                      Yes, we have had several cats over the years that love cantaloupe.

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                                                                                                                                    HappyHattiesburgr RE: Kat Oct 21, 2012 07:55 PM

                                                                                                                                    I would fear that ham (served often anyway) would have too much salt. I'd pow-wow with the vet about treats & which ones, am currently leery of them. Agree with others posting that there is just no telling what cats will like to eat. Had one that liked cheese. Remember though that onions can cause leukemia I believe or at least affect white blood cells, some other foods are dangerous so I trust you have read up on that. We had one that had a special meow for mackerel he loved it so much. We felt it had too much salt so he (and we) only got it rarely. I have read that the problem with some of the human foods that they may like is they won't eat enough of what they should and may have deficiencies as a result.

                                                                                                                                    In my childhood, the pet that ate the human leftovers had a shorter life than is more common with those who eat pet food.

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                                                                                                                                      escondido123 RE: HappyHattiesburgr Oct 21, 2012 08:10 PM

                                                                                                                                      I saw nothing about leukemia in an online search, just that onions and garlic could be toxic to cats.

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                                                                                                                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: HappyHattiesburgr Oct 21, 2012 08:19 PM

                                                                                                                                        if cats or dogs eat alliums (onions, garlic, shallot, leeks), it can lead to ANEMIA, not leukemia. it causes destruction of red blood cells and can result in kidney failure. that's why you should always read the labels on baby food before feeding them to your pets - some contain onion powder for flavoring, and it's highly toxic to our furry friends.

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                                                                                                                                          Kat RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 22, 2012 05:34 AM

                                                                                                                                          Good to know about the onions, thanks!!

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                                                                                                                                            MelMM RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 22, 2012 11:37 AM

                                                                                                                                            This reminds me, raw egg white is also a problem. Contains avedin, which binds with biotin, and can make the cat deficient. Yolks are fine. I put only yolks in my homemade raw food.

                                                                                                                                            Also, chives fall into the onion category. I had an Aerogarden set up at one time with chives growing indoors, and one of my cats mowed them all down in a matter of minutes. The one-time exposure was not a problem, but I when I looked it up I did find that chives are not something a cat should have on a regular basis.

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                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: MelMM Oct 22, 2012 02:38 PM

                                                                                                                                              i figured everyone could extrapolate the warning to include all onions without providing a comprehensive list, but i guess i'll now mention scallions/green onions too. BTW, avidin is also a problem for us humans - i've always said that Rocky Balboa & his imitators would benefit from a nutrition lesson ;)

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                                                                                                                                            foiegras RE: HappyHattiesburgr Nov 8, 2012 07:26 PM

                                                                                                                                            I have to say that it really irks me, considering that until quite recently all domesticated animals ate actual food rather than processed food made largely from remains no human would eat, to see people freak out about animals doing the same thing today rather than falling into line with what pet food companies want.

                                                                                                                                            I feed my dogs a home-cooked diet, and I actually have to be careful that they get enough salt. I have found that they need added salt, that what's in the food is not enough. (Meat has quite a bit of salt, but that isn't all I feed them.)

                                                                                                                                            I remember hearing a few years ago the top guy from the Westminster dog show talk about how the lifespan of his breed is actually contracting, which he believes is due to the quality of commercial dog food. When you consider that the human lifespan, despite all our stupidity and bad habits, is expanding, to see dogs' contracting really says something.

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                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: foiegras Nov 8, 2012 07:38 PM

                                                                                                                                              well humans may be living longer, but it doesn't always mean those extra years are healthy or enjoyable. but i agree with you that it's disturbing to hear that about shorter life spans, and to see so much of the crap that passes for "food" for our pets. (then again i could say that about the majority of food humans eat these days!)

                                                                                                                                              my girls are my babies - i don't (and never will) have kids, so they're it, and i treat them as such.

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                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 9, 2012 07:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                My kitties are my babies too. I have no children so they are very important

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                                                                                                                                                  meatn3 RE: suzigirl Nov 9, 2012 08:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Me three. I've always had cats and they have always been an important aspect of "family" for me.

                                                                                                                                                  One has had a nervous tummy for a few days. They have been making exterior repairs on my building and the sounds of construction is not his choice of dining music. Put Rescue Remedy in the water and he has been calmer. They have moved on to the next building so he should be back to normal today.

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                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 9, 2012 11:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Fingers crossed

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                                                                                                                                                      meatn3 RE: suzigirl Nov 9, 2012 08:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Today they have just been burning off the pent up energy from the last few days and playing "run kitty run", always a favorite game at our house! Tomorrow the pressure cleaning begins so a new set of scary noises. After that it should be peaceful until the painting begins.

                                                                                                                                                      Poor babies. I guess a can of stinky food is the customary celebratory dish after a trying week? Somehow they know I just wrote that and are heading for the kitchen...

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                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 10, 2012 06:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Run kitty run. My kitties play that too. That's happens when you have more than one. So sweet
                                                                                                                                                        Are the Jedi kitty sences on?See you in the kitcken sucker.

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                                                                                                                                                          jumpingmonk RE: suzigirl Nov 10, 2012 04:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Ah yes the Kittyonappolis 500. Mine does that as well (incuding at least once using me for a springboard to change levels...while I was walking.

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                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: jumpingmonk Nov 10, 2012 05:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Lol. Great name.I have to remember that. Any names for the mommy I'm hungry get out of bed lazy butt and feed me dance?

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                                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: suzigirl Nov 10, 2012 05:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                              :) picture that scene from Family Guy where Stewie is standing next to the bed saying Mommy. Mommy. Mom. Mommy. Mum. Mama. Mommy. Mama. Mommy (etc, etc...)

                                                                                                                                                              that would be Sophie every morning, usually at least an hour before i have to get up. except she's not on the floor, she's on the bed - typically standing on my chest or right next to my head with her face about 2 inches from mine. then the Kittyonapolis 500 occurs right after i pull the covers over my head and shoo the little mosters away, and any hopes i had of falling back to sleep are usually dashed the 3rd or 4th time they scamper over me...at which point i drag myself out of bed and stumble to the kitchen, tripping over one or both of them as they run back & forth in front of me.

                                                                                                                                                              the race occurs again right after meals...and for some reason they also do it every time i open the windows (which i don't do often because it's usually too dirty and noisy and/or hot outside).

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                                                                                                                                                                LindaWhit RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 10, 2012 06:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                My Kittyonapolis 500 always occurs after they've been fed. Almost 10 minutes to the second after they've been fed. A few runs around the first floor, and then one dashes up the stairs with the other following. A few turns through the bedroom, bathroom and 2nd bedroom, and back down the stairs for another turn through the living room, kitchen, and dining room. Pretty damn funny. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: LindaWhit Nov 10, 2012 06:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  interestingly, since i changed their food i've noticed the race is faster & lasts longer than it used to.

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                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: LindaWhit Nov 10, 2012 06:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    They are perfect entertainment. And perfect company. Who would trade that ever? Not me.

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                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 10, 2012 06:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    great analogy. I got a giggle out of the mommy mommy mom mom because I have been there. We had a mini meltdown this morning involving the two stomping on the bed and pawing and him mouthing me once.the endless pacing the bed and yowling mommy mommy when all we wanted wanted was a smidge of weekend sleepy time. Was that so much? I asked earlier today but I guessed you missed... is Sophie doing well? All the best to her

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                                                                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet RE: suzigirl Nov 10, 2012 07:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      aww, thanks for asking, i did miss your earlier query. she's still being finicky - won't touch the raw at all anymore. but at least she's eating the Vital Complete. she's definitely not sick, just being a brat :)

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                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 11, 2012 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        I am going though that too. I am paying top dollar for soft food and the 'wonder twins' are turning up their tiny snotboxes. What to do, what to do? Brats indeed

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                                                                                                                                                                    jumpingmonk RE: suzigirl Nov 11, 2012 04:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    I'm afraid I don't have a word for that since Short, Brown, and Furry (not her real name, but what we often refer to her as*). 1. Doesn't usually have to get us downstairs to get a nibble (she has a spare water bowl in my parent's bedroom, and my Mom usually keeps a bag of kitty treats there as well) and 2. Prefers to save her energy to bother us when we actually enter the kitchen (or more accurately WHENEVER we enter the kitchen, even if she has already been fed).
                                                                                                                                                                    I do have one more amusing one. Whenever she decides to jump up in front of the computer keyboard (i.e pretty much every time I sit down to use the computer) she will eventually stretch herself out full length parallel to the keyboard on her side (since she evnetually realizes that this is the one postion where she can still get the light and warmth of the desk lamp while being far enough below my field of view where I will let her stay there, as opposed to gently nudging her out of the way. I refer to this movement as "doing her impression of a side of lox (often shortened to "doing her lox impression")

                                                                                                                                                                    * We often also use "she who must be obyed" since we watched a lot of Rumpole on PBS in our house.

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                                                                                                                                                                      suzigirl RE: jumpingmonk Nov 11, 2012 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      'She who must be obeyed'. Perfect name. What is short, brown and furrys real name? Curious? Look to my post above to see the two that I 'obey'. Two Siamese silver Bengal mixed babies.

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                                                                                                                                                                        jumpingmonk RE: suzigirl Nov 11, 2012 10:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Cassia. There is actually a story behind that as well. She is our second cat, sequentially (i.e. we didn't get her until our first cat passed away). My sister picked her out, since at the time I was away at colledge. When she did she decided that I should at least have some contributiuon to her upbinging, so she went to my room and took out one of my Botany books and filpped through it until she found a name she liked.
                                                                                                                                                                        Now here's the funny bit. Our family seems to have a funny gift for picking out names for our cats that develop and odd double meaning. Our first cat (which I picked out at 5) had white fur (both our cats were shelter adoptions, so I have to presume they are mixed breed, but pesto was visually identical to a European Odd Eyed white, solid white fur, one blue eye, one yellow eye). When we were taking her home, I saw she had a greeny grey stain on her belly (which proved to be dirt) and decided she looked like a bowl of spagetti with sauce. Since the spot was green we named her Pesto. The double meaning came in as she grew up since "Pesto" sounds a lot like "Pest" and as she grew she grewn into the dominator of us the enemy of any other cat on the block (one of the strongest coming the day we accidentally took one of our neighbors cats (which was also solid white) into the house without realizing Pesto was in fact INSIDE already (these were the days before the coyotes became common again in our neighborhood, so pesto got to wander around outside on her own, unlike Cassia) and the alternate friend and master of every dog (up to and including Rufus who was a full grown sheepdog 5x her size and TERRIFIED of her).
                                                                                                                                                                        Similarly the name Cassia has a double meaning. My sister meant it like the spice since Cassia is a brownish tabby (Cassia is the British/European term for the kind of spice most of us in the US think of as cinnamon as opposed to "true" cinnaimon, which is thinner smells different and is a lot more expensive [we usually call the real stuff "Mexican Cinnamon or Ceylon Cinnamon"]) which is fine. The double meaning comes from the fact that Cassia is also the genus name of a group of legumes, whose most famous and commonly used member was later broken off into it's own genus under the name most people know it by..........Senna (i.e. the laxative) And true to form there are times Cassia can be a real pain in the a**!

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                                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: jumpingmonk Nov 11, 2012 12:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Very good post. Sounds like Cassia aka pain in the a** has a great pet parent. Luvky her.

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                                                                                                                                                                        jumpingmonk RE: jumpingmonk Nov 11, 2012 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Forgot a few

                                                                                                                                                                        "The brown bag/box rhumba"-when she jumps into an empty shoppong bag/packing box and begins causing it to move across the floor.

                                                                                                                                                                        The Hairdresser- when you are sitting on the floor below the couch, and she jumps up onto the arm walk over to jst above you, and begins trying to groom your head.

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                                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: jumpingmonk Nov 11, 2012 12:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          She has some serious personality. What a trip her little soul is. I bet she keeps you all completely entertained. All cats have personality but she sounds like quite the character

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                                                                                                                                                                            jumpingmonk RE: suzigirl Nov 11, 2012 04:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            It sort of our fault. We spoil each cat we get rotten, so we tend to get very self centered cats. Though I admit she has a few quirks Pesto didn't like her love of sticking her head in my armpites (since she only does this when I HAVEN'T put on deoderant yet, I assume that she either finds whatever scent my body naturally puts our alluring, or is trying to assert her dominance by covering my scent with hers).

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                                                                                                                                                                              suzigirl RE: jumpingmonk Nov 11, 2012 05:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              Oh my cats are horribly spoiled too. I wouldn't have it any other way. Did you get a look at my post of them earlier in the thread? Who wouldn't spoil them. But lets be honest... they could be blind, three legged, missing part of an ear and diabetic and in my house they would be loved. I love them all.
                                                                                                                                                                              Who knows about the armpit thing. Some cats just love that. My last kitty did. It was funny to see her love up on my bf after he worked in the yard.

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                                                                                                                                                                                foiegras RE: jumpingmonk Nov 11, 2012 07:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                I imagine she likes your scent. My dogs like to roll on my pillows (and chew on socks I have worn, but that is strictly forbidden as I very much prefer my socks without holes). One of my dogs likes to smell my breath, especially when I get home. I think she's checking in with me, what I've been eating, etc. Would be interesting to know what she can pick up on from doing this ...

                                                                                                                                                                                Also wanted to mention, a fairly high percentage of shelter animals are purebred. Having a pedigree doesn't make people who don't care, care ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                  jumpingmonk RE: foiegras Nov 11, 2012 07:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I never said she wasn't, just that there was no real way we could tell (i.e. when we adopted her it's not like they handed us a set of papers It never seemed important to us she didn't have the defect ( i.e. a lot of odd eyed whites are deaf on the blue side). But she might have been, we were told when we adopted her, her original name was Tiffany (and Cassia's was Callie). In theory we could still find out (when we were cleaning out the attic a year or two after she had passed, we got rid of a couch she had liked to sleep on, and I collected a vials worth of her shed fur) But who cares?
                                                                                                                                                                                  On a personal note, our training of cats has done one thing, it has sort of dampened one of my idle fanasies. I always said that if I ever beacame so rich I owned a mansion and acres of land, I love to have a domestic Caracal for a pet (yes there are domestic ones, you don't neccecary have to contribute to the illegal pet trade to get one) but I shelved that long ago, given how we raise cats, I'd wind up with a caracal that behaved much as our cats do, and having a cat use me as a landing platform would be a much nastier matter if the cat in question is the size of a golden retriever!

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                                                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: jumpingmonk Nov 11, 2012 07:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              [snort] Sasha just *cannot* resist an empty bag or box. i had a small brown shopping bag - with handles - sitting on the floor one day that contained a couple of items i needed to return. i heard the rustling and told her to leave it alone but of course she didn't listen. the next thing i know...RRRRIIIIPPPPPP! she had shoved her head through one of the handles, and when she tried to pull away, the part of the bag to which it was attached just tore off. so there she was with her torso crammed into the handle and half a bag hanging off her. she started racing around the apartment like her fur was on fire, and i know she was terrified, but i could. not. stop. laughing. she finally stopped long enough for me to grab her and pull it off - i'm just sorry i didn't think to grab the camera first.

                                                                                                                                                                              both girls like to suck/chew my hair. it's gross, but kinda cute.

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                                                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 12, 2012 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                I am picturing that mentally and cracking up. To funny

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                                                                                                                                                                                  mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 12, 2012 09:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Any package or bag, basket that gets put down for a minute ends up with Fat Freddy (who're really just Chubby Freddy after losing 3.6 lbs and still counting down) squeezing himself into it. Very comical results when the basket is a small one, he gets all of him in there that will fit, and it's not always that much.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 12, 2012 10:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Go Chubby Freddy. Next thing you know we will be calling him Svelt Freddy. And Freddy, think of how many more boxes you can fit into if you keep it up. Wtg Freddy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 12, 2012 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      We think we missed the opportunity to put him on feline edition of The Biggest Loser! Down from 22 and he's still a Big Boy, comical to watch going down stairs, but not as absurd to look at from the front when he's sitting down. He still needs to lose about another 2-4 lbs, I think, and I expect his next full day of diabetes testing at the vet shows the remission we expect, I think he'll lose more easily with less hunger off of insulin, which increases fat storage. Incredible that he was about 1/3 of a cat too large! He's just so much happier, energetic and handsome, too, as his skin, fur, eyes and energy are so glowing now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 12, 2012 01:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        The feline edition of the biggest loser. To funny. I bet his little litty joints are happier going up those stairs. That will put the pep in his step.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 12, 2012 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, he used to walk like a very elderly cat, and come down stairs so gingerly, and his legs got so weak they'd tremble terribly while he was drinking or eating. Now he runs up and down stairs and moves smoothly and lightly... even as, uh, plump as he still is. He's the youngest cat in the house, by vet estimates, and the oldest looking, but maybe not for long.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 12, 2012 01:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Two pounds on a cat is alot of weight. He probably thought you were mad at him when you put him on the diet. Now he must feel like a new little man. Whatever you are doing you need to keep it up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 12, 2012 02:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I think he's less hungry due to the high protein, grain free wet food. They all seemed to be driven to overeat the dry Wellness Core Grain Free... But he's always a fresser... I think off of insulin his hunger will diminish, same as in people. And he's lost 3.6 lbs, down to 18.4 from 22 morbidly obese lbs.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 12, 2012 03:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I think we all are fressers to some degree on chow. I know I am. I guess that is where Freddy got it. Passed it down from you. The high protein is probably curbing his hunger. In no time at all he will be down to his ideal dancers weight. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                    tracylee RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 12, 2012 03:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Tobiko did that a few years ago, but the main part of the bag ripped off as he went through the cat door, so I had to crawl under the porch to remove it and calm him down. Ever since then he's been afraid of bags, except for the flattened TJs bag on the floor at the edge of the dining room that he lays on. For some reason, he's also afraid of coats and things on TV. I've never figured out the coat thing, and I've been telling him for years not to watch TV!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      suzigirl RE: tracylee Nov 12, 2012 03:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      You tell them not watch TV and they just sneak behind your back. That darn animal planet. My previous kitty was addicted to meercat manor. It was a trip and a half. She would stop watching on commercials and was enthralled when it came back on. I recorded them for her and we would watch them for hours.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 12, 2012 04:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Our little Zoe always sits up very straight for nature shows, or any time she hears an animal noise on TV. She keeps watching if there's action, long after the animal stuff is gone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: tracylee Nov 12, 2012 03:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Sasha didn't learn her lesson after the bag incident - she has to check out EVERYTHING, and she climbs into every single bag she sees. i've found her napping in a few of them :) as of yesterday, her new favorite thing is to hurl herself at the window screen, latch onto it with her claws, and hang there until i yell at her to get down. she's already poked a few holes in it. sigh.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Sophie loves to watch NFL games with me, but they're not much into TV besides that. and they have a bizarre fear of ringing telephones & doorbells - every time they hear one - even on TV - they bolt & hide under the bed. blender? no problem, they'll stand next to me while i'm using it. coffee grinder? they don't even bat an eye. but a ringing phone terrifies them. go figure.

                                                                                                                                                                                        oh, and they're scared of anyone - including me - who wears shoes. i have a barefoot rule in my home, so i guess they're just not used to the clomping noise. they'll play with a shoe i've left on the floor, but if i actually *walk* in any shoes - even slippers or flip flops - for more than a few steps, under the bed they go!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 12, 2012 04:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          My cats are the same way with shoes and doorbells. Silly kitties

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                                                                                                                                                                                            tracylee RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 12, 2012 08:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            NFL games were where we first noticed Tobiko's aversion to TV. The zooming in segues freaked him out.

                                                                                                                                                                                            When I had just one cat who was a kitten, I'd leave Animal Planet on while I was at work, and come home to some horrible surgery, so I stopped that.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Abby loves bags of all kinds and runs into them so they slide across the floor, or climb into the empty TP bag.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          escondido123 RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 18, 2012 05:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Come home from the store and the big black cat was wild eyed. Nearby, his brother was lying down wearing what appears to be a strange tutu. On closer inspection, it's a plastic bag. He must of put his head through the handles, then raced around the house trying to get it off, but it got stuck at his hips. Two years later, the big black one (not the one in the tutu) still runs at the sound of a plastic bag.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: escondido123 Nov 18, 2012 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Poor traumatized kitties. I bet you keep the bags far far away now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: escondido123 Nov 18, 2012 06:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              poor baby :( i'm just glad he didn't get his head stuck in there & suffocate! i freak out when i catch the girls messing w/plastic - i try to keep those bags away from them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                escondido123 RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 18, 2012 06:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Now, I either put the bag away immediately or cut the handles (same for paper bags.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                      tracylee RE: jumpingmonk Nov 10, 2012 08:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I get that all the time from Abby. Yesterday she slammed up against the back of my legs while I was walking. She loves to roll around on the stairs, trying to kill one or both of us.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I notice the running time for them both is after they use the litter box. I keep both boxes clean, but they do their thing and run! Oh yeah, she pauses to fling litter all over the bathroom first.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: tracylee Nov 11, 2012 08:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Silly rabbit. You think the house is run by your rules? Not!

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                                                                                                                                                                          tracylee RE: foiegras Nov 9, 2012 08:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          I was just thinking again today that Abby needs some extra salt somewhere. She keeps licking the saline off my contact lens case.

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                                                                                                                                                                        jcattles RE: Kat Oct 22, 2012 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        We've had quite a few cats over the years.O'Malley loved the cream filling from twinkies or ding dongs. He also loved soft serve ice cream.

                                                                                                                                                                        The one cat we have left now is a little pickier. Lizzie loves canned tuna and the occasional piece of chicken. She really likes to smell what ever we are eating, just to make sure she isn't missing out. She also had diabetes, (she's in remission), when she was first diagnosed, we changed her diet to wet food, so now every morning at the crack of dawn she meows her head off wanting us to get up & feed her. It's driving me insane!

                                                                                                                                                                        All of the cats have always preferred drinking water from our glasses. We keep one out strictly for them & refill it during the day. Lizzie also likes to drink out of the fish bowl, strangely enough, she nevers bothers the fish.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. splatgirl RE: Kat Oct 22, 2012 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          The weirdest think any of our cats has ever eaten was green peas. I hate peas and had picked them out of whatever I was eating. I think she did it just to spite me.
                                                                                                                                                                          What is weirder to me is how some of our cats have loved certain things--like ice cream or yogurt, but others won't touch those things, ever.
                                                                                                                                                                          It's also weird to me that other people manage to have cats that don't insist on getting up on the counter and table to inspect things constantly. No matter how early or hard I try, I've never been able to keep a cat from doing this.

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                                                                                                                                                                            viperlush RE: splatgirl Oct 22, 2012 10:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            I've had three cats. The two that we tried to keep of the counter never listened and went where ever they wanted and took what ever they wanted to eat. With my Siamese I took a different approach and never told him no and let him do as he pleases (what my mom calls my Montessori kitty). Except for when he wants a sniff he doesn't bother us at the table and doesn't jump on counters were we don't want him.

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                                                                                                                                                                              cayjohan RE: splatgirl Oct 22, 2012 01:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              splatgirl, if you have countertop-curious cats, you might want to try the trick we used. My now-departed Moka was a horrible offender with countersnooping, but was (mostly, we needed an occasional reeducation) cured using a booby-trap of empty soda cans stacked in a double-decker row along the counters, set back enough so she couldn't spy them from her floor-bound vantage point, but close enough to the edge that she couldn't avoid them. A few episodes of the crash-bang-clatter of aluminum cans raining down seemed to convince her that countertops were off limits. It sounds a little mean (at least it did to me at first), but it's harmless to the cat. My mostly touchy-feeliness toward my cat herd was trumped by not being able to leave the kitchen even for a few seconds without Moka being up on the counters. The can trick solved it. It helped with feeding time as well - Moka was aggressive in stealing food from the other cats, and our old, old man Mosey is easily distracted from his much needed food. I started setting an empty aluminum can next to Mosey's food at feeding time, and the food-stealing stopped.

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                                                                                                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: splatgirl Oct 22, 2012 02:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                a lot of cat food formulas contain green peas - kitties like them!

                                                                                                                                                                                cats jump on counters & tables because:
                                                                                                                                                                                1) they've seen food there (it only takes one time!)
                                                                                                                                                                                2) they're drawn to high places - they prefer to traverse elevated territory because it gives them a better vantage point and offers a sense of safety they can't get when standing on the floor.

                                                                                                                                                                                and of course there's also the matter of just wanting to see what they can get away with ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                if it's really a problem for you, get one of the sensor-triggered air canisters that blasts them with a harmless puff of air when they jump up there. (i'm not a fan of the water-bottle method because they can start to associate displeasure or fear with the person squirting them.) also, if you provide them with an approved climbing area like a tower or those sisal-covered wall shelves, they'll have a more appropriate place to indulge their desire for height.

                                                                                                                                                                                i'm actually having luck training my girls without any extra deterrents - a stern "NO" (not loud, just deep), followed by scooping them up and depositing them back on the floor. they now know they're not supposed to be up there and only dare to try it when my back is turned...and as soon as i catch them and they see me coming toward them, they jump down :) my concerns about them running around up there have nothing to do with sanitation, as i clean the counters obsessively. it's a safety issue - i'm afraid i'll accidentally leave a knife out, or one of them will jump on the gas stove when it's blazing hot, or even worse, lit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  splatgirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 22, 2012 04:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  All good ideas! The pop can thing would crack me up, but it would take me a year to save up that many cans! Inside out loops of packing tape on surfaces is a favorite around here, bonus that it's disturbingly funny to watch them freak out trying to get it off of themselves. Our current owner is kind of oafish and petite but chubby and thus ill-suited to counter jumping. The problem is our dining table tucks into a slot in the island, which suits her perfectly-- chair seat to table top to island counter. And she's getting worse and worse with the dinner patrol, although still not as bad as some of our past, passed cats. At least it's not this AND the insistence on dripping faucet water only like my cat in college.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Have you ever seen the signs that say "cat hair is a condiment"? Eu but true.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    tracylee RE: splatgirl Oct 23, 2012 07:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    "Have you ever seen the signs that say "cat hair is a condiment"? Eu but true."

                                                                                                                                                                                    I always say it's just extra fiber!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    coll RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 23, 2012 05:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    The company I worked for added peas to their formula, turned out the did it to up the protein level...in a devious way as far as I was concerned. When I see protein, I assume meat product.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I've had cats that would eat regular peas by the bowlful, and others who would eat around them so that when they were done, there were just 5 or 6 perfectly clean peas remaining.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      suzigirl RE: coll Nov 12, 2012 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Green peas are one of the main ingredients in my cat food. I guess many cats like them. Mine snuffle that food doen

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                                                                                                                                                                                  kcshigekawa RE: Kat Oct 22, 2012 02:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Bananas. Tao-cat would chew on the stems when the 'nanners were in the fruit bowl, and eat the fruit after you'd peeled it for her.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Maggie-cat's only people food is the water from canned tuna; she won't eat anything but dry cat food, and she couldn't care less which brand it is!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    escondido123 RE: Kat Oct 22, 2012 02:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    When I bring home fresh green beans from the Farmers' Market, all 4 of them start screaming. They each get one big one, which they sniff, take a tiny nibble and then turn into play toys. Always find a couple limp and dusty a few days later.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Jay F RE: Kat Oct 22, 2012 03:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Don't ALL cats like, even prefer, human food? I had a cat who was particularly fond of vegetables, esp. asparagus and carrots (cooked). And during a particularly antipasto-y period in my life, I discovered my first cat was quite fond of soppressata. When my vet advised me to give him an egg once a week, I made him a 9 Lives chicken and cheese omelet on Saturday mornings.

                                                                                                                                                                                      And every dog I've known has preferred both meat and veg to either kibble or that smelly junk that comes in cans.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        pinehurst RE: Jay F Oct 22, 2012 04:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Standing and applauding your omelet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          escondido123 RE: Jay F Oct 22, 2012 04:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I have two cats who have no interest in people food. I put down some nice pieces of lamb once next to a small pile of cat treats they eat every day, and they went for the treats.

                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Michelly RE: Kat Oct 22, 2012 07:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I have one cat who's pretty normal: in addition to both wet and dry cat food, she loves dairy products and anything meat or fish. The other one (who, oddly enough, is tubbier) doesn't like dairy products or freshly cooked meat (both love packaged meats like cold cuts. But she'll chase, then eat, grapes and blueberries! and both like baked goods (not chocolate goods, luckily). If I leave a bag with bagels or a danish on the table, the whole thing will disappear and I'll find it, with the crumbs, behind the couch, under the table, or under the bed.
                                                                                                                                                                                          My now deceased black-and-white shorthair had a strange liking for anything thin and stringy. When I bought corn on the cob, if I didn't put it away immediately, she'd start eating the silk!
                                                                                                                                                                                          One day my husband saw something sticking out of her mouth; he grabbed it and proceeded to pull about a foot of dental floss that she had retrieved from the trash can and had almost swallowed (which would have resulted in a bad digestive emergency).
                                                                                                                                                                                          It's not surprising that cats -and dogs- have such diverse culinary preferences. After all, one of the many reasons why we choose them to be members of our families is that they have incredible personalities.
                                                                                                                                                                                          What you DON'T want to know is what my HUSBAND does to bologna :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                            splatgirl RE: Michelly Oct 23, 2012 06:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            husband saw something sticking out of her mouth; he grabbed it and proceeded to pull about a foot of dental floss that she had retrieved from the trash
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                                                                                                                                                                                            um been there, except with red gift wrap ribbon and the other end of the cat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              KSlink RE: splatgirl Oct 23, 2012 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Ditto here, but it was silver Christmas tinsel.......

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                                                                                                                                                                                                splatgirl RE: KSlink Oct 23, 2012 05:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                A few years later my mom sent me a funny Christmas card with this theme. I felt so much better knowing I wasn't the only one who ever had to pull THAT out of THERE.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  ratgirlagogo RE: splatgirl Oct 23, 2012 07:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yarn. And embroidery thread. And more than once. Not recently, thank Bast. Our younger cat does unfortunately have a real thing for blue plastic recycling bags. The bits come out of both butt and mouth.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: ratgirlagogo Oct 23, 2012 07:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    the plastic bag thing is common - there are a few theories on why, though no one knows for sure. my Sophie licks them but fortunately doesn't actually chew & swallow any of it. definitely try to keep them from eating the bags, as the plastic can cause potentially fatal gastrointestinal blockage.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: Michelly Oct 23, 2012 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              my dear departed Lulu had a thing for baked goods (and pretty much anything edible). when she was still rather little we were visiting my folks, and Mom & i were sitting in the kitchen chatting with an old friend over coffee. there was a plate of croissants on the table, and Lulu jumped onto the the table from out of nowhere, snatched a croissant that was almost as big as she was, leapt off the table with the entire thing in her mouth, and raced off with it. we were laughing for about 20 minutes.

                                                                                                                                                                                              and yes, i've had to be rather careful about leaving my used dental floss lying around. i tend to floss while i'm lying on the couch with the girls, and occasionally i'll lose track of a piece and forget about it...i discovered one embedded in the "contents" of their litter box last week. not safe!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                escondido123 RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 23, 2012 08:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I had a cat that loved corn muffins, but only from Dunkin' Donuts.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I have one now that loves ponytailers. At the sound of me taking one out of my hair he comes running. Unfortunately he doesn't play with them, he eats them so I have to be very careful.

                                                                                                                                                                                            3. olyolyy RE: Kat Oct 23, 2012 09:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I love cats and dogs but I can't stand the thought of keeping pets in my house. Ever since having kids, pets just lost their appeal to me. I used to have a cat that refused all people food, even tuna. But she went crazy over the occasional cracker, I never saw anything like it. She didn't even eat cat treats or soft cat food.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                splatgirl RE: olyolyy Oct 23, 2012 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I feel this way about kids :P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  olyolyy RE: splatgirl Oct 23, 2012 06:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ha!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    mariacarmen RE: splatgirl Oct 27, 2012 11:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    ditto!

                                                                                                                                                                                                2. meatn3 RE: Kat Oct 25, 2012 10:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  My ex-cat Gussy is not interested in people food except for tuna water. But he does have very strong opinions about coffee. Each morning I pour my cup of coffee and carry it with me to my spot on the sofa. Once the coffee cup was placed on the end table and I had settled down Gussy would jump onto the arm of the sofa and noisily sniff the coffee cup. Then he would look at me with a "ewww - yuck" expression and begin vigorously digging at the arm of the sofa - with the same focus and intensity reserved for his litter box burials. Same ritual every morning for 10 years...just not a coffee sort of cat!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    tracylee RE: meatn3 Oct 27, 2012 08:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've seen that in a couple of my cats, current and past. They'll attempt to bury anything that they don't like the smell of. Not very effective on linoleum or a countertop.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      escondido123 RE: tracylee Oct 27, 2012 08:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      One of my cats tries to bury the leftover dinner by "covering" it with the linoleum....futile effort.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      BeeZee RE: meatn3 Oct 29, 2012 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      funny, my late cat, Bea, loved to lick my coffee cup...and I drink black coffee!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    3. YAYME RE: Kat Oct 27, 2012 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think all cats are little furry eccentrics.My Ivan (Tzar Ivan) loves seafood, organ meats, raw meat, and egg yolks. I've spoiled him because when I cook I always slight off a piece of meat as a 'tithe for the Tzar'. He hates veggies unless they are old dried leaves which he eats for the crunch factor. When I get a lobster I share it with him, same goes for shrimp. With the lobster he usually gets the guts and I get the meat. Once and only once I had quails and I fed him the extra bits of legs. He had fun crunching up the raw bones and eating the meat. He's a slim, healthy boy with lots of energy. And he recently discovered lunch meat turkey (which my parents gave me because they were going on vacation). I don't care much for turkey so he's welcome to it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. mariacarmen RE: Kat Oct 27, 2012 11:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        all my cats LOVED ham, the lunchmeat stuff, like CRAZY. like, leprechauns. like, come running over and claw it out of your hands. other things too but it was always so funny what a spell ham cast on them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        they're all gone now... miss them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. goodhealthgourmet RE: Kat Oct 29, 2012 05:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          i just discovered that the girls love egg yolks...and since i always have a batch of hard-cooked eggs in the fridge, it will be a great occasional treat for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          note: i actually gave it to them in a fit of desperation to shut them up. since i transitioned them to a raw diet, they now cry & howl *incessantly* every time i go anywhere near the kitchen. if this doesn't stop soon, i may have to switch them back to kibble!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 4, 2012 08:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just got power back at 2:53 a.m. able to keep Freddy's insulin cold all week and he continues to loes, down about 3.5 lbs as of yesterday! Only about 5 more to go, but he's getting so much more active and moving so much more comfortable at his new weight and health status. He was so happy with all the use of the fireplace for heat this week, just basked in it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 4, 2012 10:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              hooray for Freddy *AND* for restored power! what a nightmarish situation you all have going on back there - Mom's neighborhood likely won't have power or cable/internet/phone until Friday. thank goodness she has a generator.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 4, 2012 10:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Indeed, thank goodness! I've been estimating the cost of a standby one today already! At least my oak tree fell on my hill and not my house!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                KrumTx RE: mcf Nov 5, 2012 04:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                You were out all week? I can't imagine. Most I've ever been out is about 6 hours after a thunderstorm. That must have been so awful for you! Glad all is restored.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  mcf RE: KrumTx Nov 5, 2012 06:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks, yeah, getting to be a habit up here! Last year home alone 4 days with no power, but had hot water and the weather was good. This year I still had hot water and cooking gas, but discovered that temps in the 50s that feel great outdoors aren't so pleasant indoors.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But I have no damage to my home, no flooding (almost no rain) and no aftermath other than the inconvenience of gas lines that are flashbacks to the 70s. So many people on the other shore are wiped off the map and there dunes separating homes from the ocean have been destroyed. The noreaster coming midweek scares me because so many trees and big limbs are weakened and still falling days post Sandy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              escondido123 RE: Kat Nov 4, 2012 10:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Pancakes for breakfast. Max sat on the paper on the table until he got his share--light on the maple syrup.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. suzigirl RE: Kat Nov 4, 2012 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I have two stunning Siamese/silver Bengal mix Cuties who get slices of lunchmeat tossed to them while we eat our lunch on the weekend. Only on the weekend though. Not to many people treats as i want to keep them svelt. The deli people know on Friday I get two slices of ham, roast beef or turkey. Sometimes liverwurst as its their favorite but it isn't very healthy. My kitties are the world to me. I had one prior that was a mackrel tabby that was almost 18 when we lost her. God love her amazing soul. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  meatn3 RE: suzigirl Nov 5, 2012 08:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Pictures please! They sound gorgeous!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 5, 2012 08:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They are stunning quirky little things. He has the typical tom tom with the big boy body and blue eyes. She's the slinky Siamese body and blue eyes and they are both buff (color) and spotted. As soon as my sweetie gets home he can help me post pictures. I am glad to show off my babies. :-) I will include my dearly departed too. They are named Romo,Cashmere and Sis(passed)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet RE: suzigirl Nov 6, 2012 04:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      i stopped by Petco to pick up some litter today and they had the most precious male Siamese kitten for adoption - buff with really light blue eyes, super playful & friendly. it breaks my heart that i can't just take them all home :(

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 6, 2012 05:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh me too. I am a sucker for a needy kitty. Wait til you see my pictures. You will melt. You can't take these kitties though. They are spoken for. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 6, 2012 04:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My sweetie didn't get around to the pics yet but he will

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 7, 2012 07:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Here are my beautifl babies that you asked for.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: suzigirl Nov 7, 2012 07:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          #1 was the two "mutts" together. And again. #3 is Cashmere and #4 is Room as a fluffy little baby boy. How sweet are they?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            meatn3 RE: suzigirl Nov 7, 2012 07:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They are even more beautiful than I imagined - the best of both breeds!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 8, 2012 02:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              They really are pretty aren't they? And good kitties. Who could give those faces away. Lucky me though. I get them all to myself

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Kat RE: suzigirl Nov 9, 2012 08:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              So cute!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: Kat Nov 10, 2012 06:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Aww. Thank you. They are my loves.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Jay F RE: suzigirl Nov 10, 2012 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Tres adorable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: Jay F Nov 10, 2012 10:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bengal and Siamese is a good blend. They are to cute.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          escondido123 RE: Kat Nov 5, 2012 08:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I just had a piece of toast with strawberry jam. Left the room and when I came back Leo had licked off most of the jam.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: escondido123 Nov 5, 2012 09:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Aww. The little rat. They are such funny little creatures. Who can be mad at that?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: escondido123 Nov 5, 2012 09:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              i left some garbanzos draining in the sink yesterday afternoon, and walked back into the kitchen to find both of my girls snarfing them down!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 5, 2012 09:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sounds like they are good eaters. Is nothing safe? Lol

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: suzigirl Nov 5, 2012 10:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  well, they didn't go for the radishes that were also sitting there :) but yes, they're great eaters.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 5, 2012 10:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So precious. I have one picky girl and her brother eats it if it ain't nailed down.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 5, 2012 02:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      According to my spouse, "radishes taste like dirt." :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 5, 2012 03:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think your spouse is correct. I don't care for them myself

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                DWB RE: Kat Nov 5, 2012 09:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Two feral sisters born on my old street got snatched up as kittens, one by me and the other by another family down the street. About 10 years later, the other family moved, but LEFT the cat. A couple of months later I figured out the cat was living in my boat in the back yard. Of course we took her in, much to the consternation of her sister.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                They both loved any meat, and were affectionally known as the "Carnitas Sisters", needless to say what one of our favorite foods were, and are!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  suzigirl RE: DWB Nov 5, 2012 09:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Why do people do that? I would never leave my cat or any other creature I committed myself to. You are their lifeline. You are a good pet parent to have taken her in. Lucky her to have a new good home. What are the kitties names?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    DWB RE: suzigirl Nov 5, 2012 05:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I appreciate your interest suzigirl, they were both quite amazing animals. After my girlfriend(now wife) and I moved in together(1988) the first kitten started hanging around and was friendly and we noticed foil in her poop, from eating out of garbage cans. We started feeding her outside, but could not take her in, as it was strictly forbidden in our rental agreement. A month or so later she showed up one day with a pretty serious cut in her paw. We took her to the vet and had her tested for diseases, had her foot sewn up and had her spayed, as long as she was there. Only after all that did we beg the landlord to allow 1 cat, and he agreed. Only then did we dare to name her Cleopatra, AKA "Big Puss".

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I was lucky to have learned the sisters name from the family that left her before they moved, so we knew Dusty's name when we took her in. They were shorthair torties, one brownish and the other greyish.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That old neighborhood(San Gabriel, CA) had a huge feral colony, due to a neighbor who fed them indescriminately. We started trapping the mothers and kittens born in our yard and had them tested and spayed/neutered and vaccinated, then we released them and fed them in the back yard, but only "ours" and the pegnant moms who sought shelter in our yard. We used to get vouchers from "Actors for Animals" to help defray the cost of the vet, still it was around $60 for test, vaccines, spay/neuter with disolvable stitches. We probably "did" 20 - 25 cats in our 20+ years in that house.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You learn not to get too attached(although we did) to the ferals we fed, as feral cats have a very tough life, and a short average life span. When they stopped showing up for meals I would start looking on nearby streets and in the 2 animal shelters they might be in, although I never found one there. I have found a couple that were struck by cars, and have removed them from the street(imagine 250 lb. man bawling as he is removing carcass) so they had a small bit of dignity in death. Of course this also cost us money for the shelter to dispose of them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The luckiest of the cats whom we "did" were taken in to be indoor pets, each from an injury or some circumstance, even though we were supposed to only have the one. We had up to 5 cats at one time, and when we moved after 22 years we packed up 4 which are our present family.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    To bring this back to semi-chowhoundish, only 1 of our current 4 is really interested in people food, mainly any kind of meat, but her intrest makes the other ones really interested, only to see what all the hype is about. I really enjoy feeding my cats small scraps of meat. I used to feed the backyard feral cats meat scraps at our old house, it was good for cat/human bonding, and made me feel good about sharing our good fortunes. You may think that we are good people for doing all this for stray cats, but I tell you in no uncertain terms that we got/get way more out of it than the cats do, so maybe I am kind of selfish. Sorry this is long, but thanks for allowing me to tell this story. Please everybody, spay/neuter your animals, you cry(I do) in animal shelters.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      suzigirl RE: DWB Nov 5, 2012 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      What an amazing story. It is people like you that truly touch my heart. You can cry all you want picking up those lost little souls and giving them a dignified walk home as I am welling up for their lost lives writing this. It takes a big heart to respect them enough to do all that you and your wife do for the "forgotten". That is why I adop. The two precious angels I have were obtained because of a breeder that had Siamese and silver Bengals and a mishap occurred and she dropped them off at an adoption place as she couldn't sell the "mutts". They were four weeks old. She said they couldn't make her money and were "useless". Not to me. I took them as tiny babies at 1.2 lbs and 1.8lbs. I paid my adoption fee and she said it was all inclusive but when I went back to her when they were old enough to spay/neuter and get shots and chip she said I was nuts to think she could afford that. I could give the kitties back. I'm sorry, what? Now who's nuts? I volunteered at the ASPCA and got the "kids" fixed and still put in my time today. Once you volunteer you are hooked. You want to talk up the good in the kitties and fit them to a good pet parent(like you). I wouldn't change how it went down for all the money I could make in a lifetime.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: DWB Nov 5, 2012 06:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        P.S I have a Cashmere and Romo. Beautiful little souls

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LindaWhit RE: DWB Nov 6, 2012 08:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You're a great person, DWB, for caring for the ferals and taking so many into your heart and home.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            DWB RE: LindaWhit Nov 7, 2012 07:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thank you LW, but suzigirl can also assure you that we are doing this for ourselves as much as for the cats.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Isolda RE: Kat Nov 5, 2012 10:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm pretty sure my cat is a 'hound. He loves arugula (will actually paw through the grocery bags looking for it), licking the juice off a granny smith apple, shrimp (but has to be high quality--no preservatives), plain refried beans, and meringues.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ask your vet about specific foods. I know some (grapes, chocolate, cherry tomatoes) are dangerous for cats, and any milk you serve should be lactose-free.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: Isolda Nov 5, 2012 03:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Onions and avacados are no no's too

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          goodhealthgourmet RE: suzigirl Nov 5, 2012 03:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          actually, it depends on the strain & origin of avocado. the skin, pit, leaves & tree bark are all toxic (more so for dogs than cats), but the pulp and oil of most varieties - except for Guatemalan avocados - are safe.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 5, 2012 03:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Very interesting. Thanks for that info.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Jay F RE: Isolda Nov 5, 2012 03:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I love your cat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Isolda RE: Jay F Nov 5, 2012 06:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Everyone loves my cat, skinny orange furniture-and-wall-shredding furball that he is. He has a brother twice his size who eats, gasp! normal cat food. He's the one who needs to be on the arugula and granny smith apple diet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Jay F RE: Isolda Nov 5, 2012 08:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I know a little terrier-chihuahua mix who loves eating Granny Smith peels, which I give her when I make apple crisps at her parents' house.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          bg90027 RE: Kat Nov 5, 2012 03:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I don't know about the gravy, ham and cheerios but cow milk isn't good for cats. They have a hard time digesting it. I keep goat's milk around as a treat for my cat though. She loves it and it's much easier for her to digest according to my vet. I always err on the side of not giving if I don't know whether it is ok for them but I assume that most meats and fish are fine.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kat RE: bg90027 Nov 5, 2012 04:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I should chek out goat's milk, as he will not touch cow milk. Kitty got his head stuck today in a package of ham that I threw out; he was so enraptured by the ham juice left in the container that he ignored the fact that his head was stuck.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              escondido123 RE: bg90027 Nov 5, 2012 04:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I have never figured this cow's milk thing out. When I have taken in feral kittens I am instructed to give the KMR Kitten Milk Replacement. You mix the powder with water, put in a ting bottle and feed to kittens so they grow up big and strong. And what is the main ingredient of that KMR........cow's milk. Go figure.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MysticYoYo RE: escondido123 Nov 5, 2012 05:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Growing up we had Siamese cats several times and they were always the ones who would eat people food. One would wait up for my brother to come home and eat ham and wedges of cheese with him. Another Siamese cat once ate three quarters of a canned peach before she would walk away sated. Yet another had to have her morning bits of sliced ham or she wasn't happy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The cats I have know don't really care for people food except for one, who will eat very small bits of ham, turkey or chicken, but nothing exotic. She would probably throw a canned peach at my head if I tried to serve it to her.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Isolda RE: escondido123 Nov 5, 2012 06:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Kittens can digest lactose; adult cats (and a lot of adult people) cannot.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. tracylee RE: Kat Nov 5, 2012 10:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                OK, so much for my well-behaved cats! Although, this might have driven any carnivore over it's limits.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I roasted up 3 pretty good sized marrow bones for myself. The cats went nuts. You should have seen the looks they gave me when I only gave them the meat trimmed off the outside when I was all done. They did get the fat from the tray after it had cooled, and worked on that for awhile.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. LindaWhit RE: Kat Nov 6, 2012 08:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I was adopted by two brother cats last Thanksgiving. One (Alfalfa) eats whatever canned or crunchy cat food is put in front of him. Like he *inhales* it. Let's just say he is no longer the svelte kitteh he was a year ago. :-/ The other (Buster) *only* eats finely chopped white meat chicken for his protein (not even tuna, or tuna juice), but will also eat the crunchies. So a couple of bags of frozen chicken tenders is bought every couple of months, and 3 tenders are defrosted and cooked in the microwave for the week's breakfast and dinners.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As for anything I drop while prepping dinner - protein, yes, they both go for it. Veggies? Nope. They both *will* eat some mashed cooked carrots or canned pumpkin, should I have some to give them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I did used to have a cat that would lick the butter off of peas but left the pea on the floor for the other cat to eat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    DWB RE: LindaWhit Nov 7, 2012 07:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    When I was growing up, our cats loved butter! I know exactly what cat tongue marks on a butter cube look like. Don't put the butter out to soften or else!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LindaWhit RE: DWB Nov 7, 2012 07:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LOL! That sandpaper tongue leaves *very* distinct marks! :-D

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    gwenst RE: Kat Nov 6, 2012 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    When i got my cat (as a kitten) he immediately killed my kale plant by eating it. At first i was concerned, and then i became curious. He likes every vegetable within the brassica family. Kale is a favorite (he knows when it's in the fridge and will beg for it), broccoli is a close second (i'll look for the stalks with the most leaves). Cauliflower? check. cabbage? check.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    He'll eat other veggies (cooked carrots & sweet potatoes - especially in stick form), and of course likes yogurt (not so much on the milk) & cheese.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Doesn't like other greens such as lettuce or spinach.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I purposely will now give him a 'salad' every night.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    BTW, his cat food is grain free and has veggies in it. If i had more time, I'd make all of his food myself

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Growing up, i had a cat who i accidently gave broccoli to (fell on the floor while cooking - burnt his nose, but two seconds later - devoured)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      medrite RE: Kat Nov 8, 2012 03:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I used to have a cat that would sit on the table right next to me as I drank my coffee with milk in the morning. As soon as I put the cup down she would immediately start licking up the little bit left at the bottom. I could never figure out if it was the coffee she was after, or the milk.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sidwich RE: medrite Nov 18, 2012 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My dear departed Elvis used to love to drink the tea out of my mugs. (My grandmother used to comment approvingly that "He is a very Chinese cat!"). I finally figured out that the taste of the tap water was not agreeing with him anymore, so I'd make sure that he got filtered water in his bowl. Even with that though, I'd still finding him sneaking drinks out of my tea from time to time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The people food that I learned not to leave out in the open were sushi/sashimi and cheese, the sharper the better. Guaranteed that if any of those were around, Elvis would be swiping them in no time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Other than that, Elvis wasn't a big beggar. He did like to hang out in the kitchen when I cooked and I'd save him a few scraps of bacon or pancetta if I were cooking with them, or a bit of leftover meat or fish. If I were cooking something with pan drippings, I'd usually drizzle a bit over his cat food (Friskies or Fancy Feast on special occasions), and he's always appreciate the thought.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: sidwich Nov 18, 2012 05:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I had one that tried to 'share' my wine. And another that I have now has been caught drinking my boyfriends koolaid in the middle of the night. We just have to share. Thems the rules.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Lillipop RE: Kat Nov 11, 2012 08:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I just have to say that out of every board on Chowhound this has been my absolute favorite! I am a cat lover til the end of days myself and I currently have four here.One is my cat and I an caretaking my two children's cats.So fun to read about the antics of other people's cats about food issues. I only have one who is as others have put it a "beggar' and she is a chub now from her love of noshing and napping:)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          meatn3 RE: Lillipop Nov 11, 2012 08:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have to say this thread has become one of my favorites too. Each time I read it I end up smiling!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: meatn3 Nov 12, 2012 09:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I agree. Some really cute stories here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          rccola RE: Kat Nov 12, 2012 02:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I had a cat who would kill for cantaloupe. Flesh, seeds, whatever. Rip your arm off if you didn't share.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All cats I've had loved meat intended for humans. One of our cats now loves the dog's dried food. All I have to do to get the dog to eat his food instead of beg ours is to say the cat's name. (We can't give the cat dried food because he gets stones.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Didn't the Far Side cartoons introduce the Dreaded Hamwart (hamwort)? Cats so addicted to ham that they were endlessly clever about securing some?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. aching RE: Kat Nov 12, 2012 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Years ago, we came home one day to find that someone had left the butter out on the table, and a perfect divot had been licked into the top of it. Our cat looked nonchalant, but we knew who was responsible. That same cat used to also knock over glasses of milk (after we had drunk most of the milk) and stick her paw into the bottom of the glass so that she could have the last few drops.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Interestingly, my current cat has absolutely no interest in people food. The only thing of ours that she wants are our glasses of water, with which she is obsessed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              suzigirl RE: aching Nov 12, 2012 04:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My last cat had her own glass so she would leave mine alone for the most part. But we found out recently that my boyfriend unwittingly has been sharing his glass of koolaid that sits on the headboard overnight.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Breadcrumbs RE: aching Nov 23, 2012 10:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                <<Our cat looked nonchalant, but we knew who was responsible.>>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That brought a big smile to my face!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                fishyman45 RE: Kat Nov 17, 2012 08:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                My cat often eats carrots.. I thought it was weird but he enjoys it i guess!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  suzigirl RE: fishyman45 Nov 18, 2012 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Try peas. They are good for them and alot of cats like them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 18, 2012 04:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think they're in a lot of cat foods that are supposed to be hypoallergenic as a source of not grain carbs with protein. I'm not sure if they're good for them or not, since my cats are doing much better on food without them than with, including the rx allergy diet. BG turkey seems to be working wonders on the two who eat it exclusively, from gut health, to weight, muscle and coats... the third one, Jasper, is a work in progress; I still have to mix it with a lot of slimy Friskies turkey shreds to get him to eat it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 18, 2012 05:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The slimier the better for my kitties. They won't eat pate. I have them on grain free not for allergies but they say its just better for them. I had a cat that threw up all her life and when I switched her to grain free she stopped all together

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 18, 2012 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Stopped diarrhea in one day, when two daily doses of Flagyl wasn't working on the slimy stuff. Same with Jasper, when I'm able to coax him to eat enough BG instead of Friskies slime.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 19, 2012 01:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Glad the kitties are back on track

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 18, 2012 05:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i started giving the girls BG chicken, quail & turkey since Sophie was being such a brat about the raw. they LOVE it. they're also really digging Soulstice - chicken in gravy & chicken/skipjack combo. i've been mixing canned, raw & a tiny bit of kibble together & both of them clean their bowls at every meal..and try to steal some from the other one if she's lagging behind :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 18, 2012 06:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'll have to look into Soulstice to see if the gravy part entices Jasper.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 18, 2012 07:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            oops, it's Soulistic, not Soulstice :) it's a Petco private label, so i was surprised to see that it's such high quality...and the cans are BPA-free.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 19, 2012 08:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It looks good, the only things I might take issue with are the added starches/gums... I think that's what creates the diarrheic slime in two of my cats. BG has a little of gum added, too. Also, not sure how I feel about sunflower oil. Looks pricy, too, but have not worked it out oz for oz. I buy BG in 5.5 oz cans.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 19, 2012 08:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                the price at my store is *slightly* lower than BG for a 5.5 oz can. make sure you're looking at the gravy varieties, not gelée. they contain some xanthan gum but none of the other gums, and no carrageenan - BG contains guar and carrageenan. i don't worry about the sunflower oil - it may not provide the ideal EFA ratio, but it doesn't do any harm and you can always add a little flax or fish oil.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 19, 2012 09:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'll check again; the one I looked at in the can had tapioca starch, xanthan and sunflower oil. Kind of inflammatory, I believe.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 19, 2012 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    tapioca starch isn't inflammatory. i'm sure the amount of xanthan is really minimal, and it shouldn't cause a problem if he's okay with the carrageenan in BG. the omega-6's from sunflower oil aren't ideal, but the fat content in these foods is relatively low so i imagine they don't add much.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    totally understand your concerns, though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 19, 2012 02:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The only thing I think might be inflammatory is sunflower oil. My two who ate the slimy gravy stuff get diarrhea from it; may be from the gums or food starch, I dunno for sure. I bought a wider selection of BG cans today because if the other two turn up their noses, Freddy will gladly eat ANYthing. And I bought some small cans of Soulstice in various flavors that were gelee to see if I can use it or BG to entice Jasper away from his Friskies turkey shreds in slime obsession. So far, I've gotten away burying a bit of bg turkey in it, but only got him to eat one meal of it, which totally got rid of his loose stools for a day.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        mcf RE: mcf Nov 19, 2012 06:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Evening report; gave Jasper BG salmon, to see if he'd accept it in place of the Friskies I have to use to get his daily steroid dose into him. He gobbled it up, this cat has NEVER liked kitty fish meals since kittenhood, and he's 13. It may not last, but I have a bunch of other candidate foods to try. Will see how it goes in the a.m. with his meds in it (chicken flavored prednisolone drops). YAY.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 19, 2012 08:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          hooray! so glad to hear it :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 20, 2012 06:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks! I'm so glad to report that he ate it this a.m. with the medicine in it, so I now have all three officially off of crud food. Also, the BG costs more than double the Friskies per case, but it takes half a can instead of a whole one for him (and a third for Zoe) to stop eating due to satiety, owing to more quality protein and less liquid/sliminess making them feel full. So while it's more expensive to buy, it's not that much more when one considers consumption. Of course, Freddy is always hungry after eating lately (down to 18.3!) but hoping next week's day of glucose testing will lead to a remission diagnosis and cessation of insulin which really drives hunger.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mcf RE: mcf Nov 21, 2012 07:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Jasper loves Soulstice, and especially the chicken and tuna in pumpkin soup, as he's such a gravy lover. It has tapioca starch, but it's very thin, so hoping it won't give him diarrhea. Off to buy a supply of large cans by the case today. Thanks for the recco, GHG. He also loved, I think it was, chicken and shrimp in gelee, but that one has added gums and I'm worried about the gastric effect if he gets much of it. Zoe will only eat the BG turkey, Freddy will eat anything that can't run away and Jasper is picky, but has accepted a few new foods lately of higher quality than the two unused cases of his Friskies I'm going to donate now. He really needs plenty of quality protein especially, since he's on steroid meds.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 21, 2012 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                woo-hoo! i'm thrilled it worked out for you :) yes, i'd stick with the gravies and steer clear of the gelee recipes if possible. it seems that Soulstice is hit or miss in terms of ingredients/additives - some flavors are less junky than others. so just read labels, as always.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      sidwich RE: fishyman45 Nov 18, 2012 10:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      One of my friends' cats was obsessed with tomatoes for some reason. I'm not sure if she loved the acidity or what, but she would really go crazy when tomatoes were being prepped.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Elvis' real owner wasn't the most of, uh, attentive caretakers, and after one particularly insistent push, I finally let him into my apartment. Having not grown up with animals, I was somewhat perplexed with what to do with this bossy cat. I finally hit upon the idea of putting a plate of my not-very-successful experiment with turkey loaf in front of him.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Elvis gave a cautious sniff of the turkey-vegetable concoction, and then, slowly, measuredly, turned his head back at him and gave a meow of, "Seriously? I am allowing you to worship me, and that's the best that you can do?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Vegetables were not his thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: sidwich Nov 19, 2012 01:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        At least he didn't try to bury it. Lol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    3. suzigirl RE: Kat Nov 19, 2012 04:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I feel like a heel admitting this but like your post I have a huge scrounge that sits under me while I prep at the counter and while I cook at the stove and often stretches himself up on the cabinets or the stove to get the best view while I cook in hopes to get a tter view. Kitty spread eagle style like he is being frisked by the cops. To cute for words. But much to his detriment we had a SNAFU the other day. While making a muffaletta sandwich he got Italian dressing in the eye. Oh the horror. :-( I was moving the sandwich to wrap it and drip... right into his poor little eye. He ran like a scalded dog and when i tried to corral him to rinse his eye things got worse. Way worse. I tried to get my sweet bf to hold him so I could check him out and can I say coleslaw? We were shredded

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lillipop RE: suzigirl Nov 19, 2012 08:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You sound so patient suzigirl:) Hope your fine boy is ok after the 'Italian incident":)?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          suzigirl RE: Lillipop Nov 23, 2012 10:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          He's OK. He still presses his outstretched little body on the cabinets spread eagle. Funny little thing still thinking of his belly first.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          cosmogrrl RE: suzigirl Jan 15, 2013 11:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My kitteh does this as well. She goes especially crazy when I am butchering the beef filet into steaks and bits. She gets a taste or two when I do this. She's not a particularly greedy cat, she just "wants a taste". Hrrm, that last sentence makes her sound like a Hollywood Mafioso type. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            rccola RE: cosmogrrl Jan 16, 2013 01:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            All cats are Mafioso.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          But some pets...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. mcf RE: Kat Nov 21, 2012 05:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So, has anyone here tried Weruva? It looks like the label is from Wysong, and seems similar to Soulistic. Looks like Jasper's favorite is no longer being made in cans, just the pouches. He's mad for the chicken and tuna in pumpkin soup, followed by the polynesian fish goop in "gelee."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 21, 2012 08:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              i was considering Weruva but it's not that easy to find. only the really spendy specialty stores carry it around here. i may pick up a few cans at some point, but if the girls end up loving it i'll have to see about ordering in bulk online for a good price.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 22, 2012 07:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                So, this a.m. Jasper turned up his nose at the food he hungrily gulped down for two days... Soulstice Golden Calypso in pumpkin soup. He really likes the Polynesian blend in gelee, but he's not eating today. He definitely goes through adrenal cycles where he's all on and hungry or all off and hungry, but not up to eating, no appetite. Managed to get his steroid into him in greenies as a sandwich instead. When he has high cycles, he's charged up, and even once jumped onto the counters (big no no they never do here) to try to eat ground coffee and vitamins I'd set out for Tom in the a.m.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Nov 22, 2012 09:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  boo :( hopefully he'll get his appetite back quickly. at least you got him to take his meds. counter-surfing is a big no-no here as well, but the girls still try to do it when they think i'm not looking. i catch them every time - they haven't quite figured out that Mommy has eyes in the back of her head!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LindaWhit RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 22, 2012 01:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Kitchen counter-surfing isn't allowed in my house (although I did walk into the kitchen several weeks ago to see Alfie peering down from atop the refrigerator!). But bathroom counter surfing is allowed. Buster is a faucet drinker, and that is where he does so. They also both like to "help" while Momma is putting on her morning makeup - usually when I'm trying to put on eyeliner or mascara. Nudges on the elbow are a BIG help. Thanks, guys. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      tracylee RE: LindaWhit Nov 22, 2012 11:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yup, the closer I get to my eyeballs, the more Abby wants to help!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 23, 2012 10:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I hope you haven't donated the friskies yet. That may have to do until you get the tummy on track, otherwise switching just causes issues too. Been having a few rounds of that here. My bf keeps switching to 'find what they like' and its biting us in the ass. Appetites were down but are getting better.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 23, 2012 10:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I haven't donated it yet, and I'll keep a few cans around, but he's so much shinier and more muscly on the better food even after a day like yesterday, when he ate so litte. Today, his appetite was better, not big like when he's in an adrenal high, but he finished one of the Soulstice cans, a little bit of one he doesn't love, and then some BG turkey that he normally doesn't go for that Zoe left in her bowl. He really loves the Soulstice in gelee, the one with chicken and tilapia, and aromatic chicken, and maybe one more.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 23, 2012 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I haven't tried Soulstice before. Its got alot of press here. I may sneak it in on them and get them off fancy feast junk. They are on nature balance kibble but are stuck on ff canned

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 23, 2012 11:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Merrick BG cans and Soulstice are both going over very well here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 23, 2012 11:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'll try them on it. I have tried them on tons of better food to no avail so far. Friskies and fancy feast are it here. They just like the stinky gravy. Go figure.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              latindancer RE: suzigirl Nov 23, 2012 12:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              <Friskies and fancy feast are it here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LOL...both of my beautiful cats lived to 20 yrs. They were both raised on Friskies and fancy feast, food that, when I'd adopted both of them, they'd been fed and were used to. They ate nothing else throughout their lives and they'd only drink out of the toilet bowl. Boy, do i miss them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: latindancer Nov 23, 2012 01:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                My last kitty made it to just shy of 18 on 9lives. It can't be all that bad huh?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 23, 2012 01:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's not about how long they live, it's also how well. My 13 y.o. cats look half that, and move like very young cats. I mean, My beloved Maurice lived to 18 on crap food that I thought was fine, but he died of kidney failure, after several years of very geriatric stiffness, slowness and signs of aging.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 23, 2012 03:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My kitty learned how to sit, speak, shake, hi five and wave hi at 16. She was young at heart. And as to how well, I wouldn't mind coming back in another life as my own cat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 23, 2012 04:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I didn't mean to say you didn't properly care for your cat, just that some cats may do poorly on certain foods, like the Friskies crud I've been forced to use with Jasper at times. There are people who are robustly healthy on bagels and Ding Dongs, too, but I'd end up blind and with amputations... so for me, too, diet is a choice for QOL, not longevity.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 23, 2012 07:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I never took what you said as a knock at all. I know that everything is good for all different kinds of people and creatures. I was just thinking aloud. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 24, 2012 09:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All I can say is, thank heavens for crap food, because though he was hungry, Jasper couldn't eat anything else this a.m. and that's how I get his prednisolone into him. Got some Friskies shredded crud in gravy and he wolfed it down. I can't wait for the order of FortiFlora to arrive, because whatever they put in it, really attracts them and increases the palatability a LOT. Had everything to do with getting Zoe and Jasper to accept the new foods. Gets Jasper to eat stuff after he's turned his nose up. I'm very worried that his lower energy and appetite days seem to be increasing. We never did invasive procedures to diagnose lymphoma/vs IBS and I know he's on borrowed time due to steroids and he's my main man, feline wise.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: mcf Nov 24, 2012 09:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I agree. Crap food has its place. When my last kitty was getting up there in years it was a literally a lifesaver. It kept her somewhat interested in food. I have to check out this FortiFlora. We have not so good tummy days around here and if i can find a way to help, I will. I hope he gets back on track. I hate the hands tied feeling you get when a kitty, unlike a child cannot say this hurts or that feels funny. They suffer in noble silence. Unlike me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: suzigirl Nov 23, 2012 08:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i JUST said last week that i want to come back as one of my own cats in my next life. they have it better than i do!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          tracylee RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 23, 2012 10:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I know what you mean! I was telling my Mom today about how Abby loves Benefuls wet dog food in the little plastic tubs, and that she eats more vegetables that way than I do!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LindaWhit RE: latindancer Nov 23, 2012 01:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My understanding from several sources is that Fancy Feast is the "best" of the readily available canned foods (non-organic, non-grain free).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      latindancer RE: LindaWhit Nov 23, 2012 02:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks, LindaWhit....that's good to know :).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't have any regrets feeding the food I did to my beloved cats. They were healthy and grew old. I guess that was all I cared about and to change their diets, I think, wouldn't have made them too happy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We food our old, female rescue dog a 'holistic' food that was recommended to us when we adopted her. That's all she's ever eaten, loaded with minerals and omegas and enzymes and who knows what else. Is she healthier than my cats? Her blood counts always come back fine and she looks healthy but no more healthy than my cats. I just think there's alot of genetics and breed and hereditary involved in animals and food source is just one part of the equation.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    mcf RE: suzigirl Nov 23, 2012 01:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My littlest one has rejected wet food for over a decade. I took a while to first add water to her dry food, then, once it was really most, I started mixing in the BG turkey a little bit at first, then a quarter, then half her meal. After a few weeks, she made the complete transition, but only to that one variety, turkey. Jasper is a tougher customer because we want to keep up his lean body mass and weight. He has cycles of what's not even appetite loss, but an aversion to the food he seeks when he gets it in front of him. Having had adrenal disorder and cycles, I know what he's going through, and at least the low appetite days are very limited for now, even on steroid drug daily. Something else I can suggest that must have something in it to drive kitty appetites wild is FortiFlora probiotic for cats from Purina. Add an envelope to mud and I swear they'd eat it. Pricey, and I don't think we really need it any more; Zoe's diarrhea seems to be gone since the day we switched from canned gravy goo to BG turkey. No more Flagyl needed or probiotic.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: mcf Jan 16, 2013 01:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Update: Fat Freddy is down to a still chubby 17 lbs from 22. His glucose in a day of testing at the vet's office was 66-104, so his insulin is cut in half and now he's losing even on more food, though still only half a grain free, low carb 5.5 oz can twice daily, Merrick BG chicken and quail. Zoe can't handle and new food without gastric meltdown, so she's on grain free turkey for life. Jasper is still eating Friskie's turkeys and giblets in slime gravy. i had to increase his prednisolone slightly due to appetite loss, and he's had a couple of minor vomiting episodes again that scare me, but I'm told it's IBS, not lymphoma because he wouldn't have lived this long with lymphoma. He's eating two cans a day again, hoping he adds a lb or two. Freddy still needs to lose at least 2 or 3 lbs. But he's bounding up and down stairs, much more youthful and active since getting down those first 5 lbs.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LindaWhit RE: mcf Jan 16, 2013 02:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ::::Smiling about Fat Freddy:::::: :-) And very glad to hear Jasper doesn't have lymphoma.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          coll RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 23, 2012 02:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I just picked up a new line of canned food at Petco, Basic Instinct, because I saw it had 11% protein. And no grain (my oldest cat I've always suspected has borderline diabetes). So far the cats love the rabbit and the venison.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            goodhealthgourmet RE: coll Nov 23, 2012 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            you mean the Instinct line from Nature's Variety? i wanted to try it but my store was completely out when i went shopping.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            this search for a good canned food began because i started the girls on Nature's Variety frozen raw food, and a couple of weeks in Sophie stopped eating it. now that i've found some canned options she'll eat i'm hoping to mix some of the raw in and see if i can get her to go for it. i have 2 large bags of that stuff in the freezer and it wasn't cheap!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 23, 2012 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mebbe you should cook it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Just sayinzall. ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 23, 2012 11:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Large bags that weren't cheap.... don't you know they look to see what you have most of and decide that is what they hate this week? Just to let ya in on a secret...never tip your hand. They know. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  coll RE: goodhealthgourmet Nov 24, 2012 09:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ha ha, I realized after that it is just Instinct, must be the rabbit that made me think otherwise.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyway, no matter how healthy or tasty the canned food, they always get tired of it after a few weeks. If not for my sort of diabetic male, I wouldn't bother at all. I have been feeding them all BG dry chicken for a couple of years though and they never tire of that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. gaffk RE: Kat Nov 23, 2012 05:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mom & I were guests at sister's house for Thanksgiving and opted not to bring home leftovers. So tonight we went to a local steakhouse for dinner. Mom suprised me by ordering a 9 oz steak (keep in mind, there is also bread, she ordered soup and the steak came with baked potato and veggie). She had about 3-4 oz steak left over.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            As usual, declined boxing the leftover steak. But I mentioned Malgato might enjoy it (mom explained to server Mal is a cat). The takeout container arrived at the table with a big "meow" written on it. I thought it was cute. (And yes, we will remove the seasoned exterior of the meat.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              James Cristinian RE: Kat Nov 23, 2012 06:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I had a great cat, (there are cats and then there are great cats), who loved to watch me clean fish, whatever the catch of the day was, redfish, speckled trout, red snapper, the bounty of the Gulf. He'd perch himself up on the counter and watch me, but never attempt a swipe at the fish. Man I loved that cat. When I was a kid, another great cat would come running when Mom or I was pounding out round steak for chicken fried steak because he knew the raw scraps were his. Then there was the day we turned our back and a whole steak became his. Punishment, no way, that steak was his we loved him so much.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                gaffk RE: James Cristinian Nov 23, 2012 06:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, I now have 2 cats. My great cat passed a few years ago at the age of 21 and was a kitten until her last few days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Great cat ( 6 lb calico) had no interest in people food. My current monsters (16 lb tuxedos) will shred me in attempt to get to the chicken\turkey\steak\butter.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                rccola RE: Kat Nov 24, 2012 02:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Our now cat likes dog food. Dry dog food. He was bottle raised and wanted dry cat food but got stones. Puts his giant face in next to the 75 lb dog in the dog's bowl and causes the dog to eat double-fast. All I have to do to get the finicky dog to eat is to say the cat's name. Cat only gets one or two crunchy bits then.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. The Chowhound Team RE: Kat Nov 24, 2012 11:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Folks, we know the urge to talk about everything to do with our pets is well-nigh irresistible, but can we ask that you please try to keep things focused on food-related topics? Thanks!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. meatn3 RE: Kat Jan 14, 2013 05:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My cans get wet food as an occasional treat. The problem is with even the smallest can there is waste since they won't touch it once it has been refrigerated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I recently found packets (not tins) of sardines in water at Ollies for 59 cents. The cats LOVE them! Plus they will eat the leftovers, even cold! One packet equals six servings. 10 cent per serving - great, undying kitty love - priceless!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The sardines looked great - big meaty pieces. I wasn't in the mood so did not try them yet. Oh, these were in the people food aisle!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      meatn3 RE: meatn3 Jan 14, 2013 09:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ooops! 8-))

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      cans should be cats!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        cosmogrrl RE: meatn3 Jan 15, 2013 11:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm glad your cans are fed well! That brought up some very funny imagery for me!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          meatn3 RE: cosmogrrl Jan 16, 2013 12:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Cans - a modern day contender for a new pet rock?!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: meatn3 Jan 15, 2013 09:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What brand are the sardines? I'm always looking for a nice treat for the wonder twins

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          meatn3 RE: suzigirl Jan 16, 2013 12:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          They are from Crown Prince in spring water, no salt added.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            suzigirl RE: meatn3 Jan 16, 2013 02:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks. I will look for them. The no salt makes it even better.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          tracylee RE: meatn3 Jan 18, 2013 06:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the idea! I could only find tins, but got a couple of tins of sardines in water for the kids. They abolutely loved it. What they didn't get this evening went into a gladware container in the fridge for tomorrow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        3. fldhkybnva RE: Kat Sep 30, 2013 05:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I hate to resurrect thi thread after 8 months but it perfeclty adresses my quesiton. I have a 5 month old kitten who loves to "cook" aka sit in the kitchen while I'm cooking. I sometimes will share small bits with him - canned tuna or sardines in water, bits of ham or beef and of course he quite enjoys it. The internet seems mixed on whether this is OK but my thought is that he's a cat, in the wild they eat dead proteinaceous things so if this food is not covered in chemicals it should be fine but thought some here would be able to give me the nod. Of course, he still eats regular cat food with as minimal grains as I can reasonably find - 2/3 wet with 1/3 dry. Is it OK to keep indulging his culinary spirit? He's not the best chef, but he's good company.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            mcf RE: fldhkybnva Sep 30, 2013 06:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, but not the dry food, very bad stuff for them, even the higher end brands. Read here; http://www.catinfo.org/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have so many regrets, I just wish I'd known this decades before now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              fldhkybnva RE: mcf Sep 30, 2013 06:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yea, which is why he gets mostly wet with less than 50 kernels of kibble a day as per the vet if any. I guess I could try just cutting it out altogether, it's the last resort when he runs of wet. Otherwise, he gobbles that up first and will beg for more even if there is some dry there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: fldhkybnva Sep 30, 2013 07:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If he's doing well I'd keep giving him just a small amount of dry food. Feeding them 100% wet/soft food can lead to gum disease because they need something hard/crunchy to keep plaque buildup at bay. I mix a miniature helping (maybe 10-15 pieces) of high quality kibble into my girls' wet food to provide that texture, and it seems to be doing the trick - at their last checkup the vet said their teeth looked great. But you definitely want to keep the bulk of his food on the moist/wet side; it's amazing how quickly a dry diet can screw with their health. I was out of town earlier this month and my little one (Sophie) refused to come out of hiding and eat her meals - poor baby stayed under the bed for the duration of every single visit. By the third day I was in a panic over her hunger strike because she's a runt to begin with, so I finally told the sitter to leave out a small bowl of kibble that Sophie could eat once she was gone. It worked, but for the rest of my absence Sophie would *only* eat the dry food. By the time I got back a few days later she had major constipation issues, and that's no fun for any of us. Fortunately when I'm here she'll eat what I give her...and of course she & her sister are always interested in sampling anything I'm eating!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We like Nature's Variety Instinct Grain-Free Turkey & Duck for dry food. I call it "kitty crack" because they adore it and would happily subsist solely on that if I allowed them to. It's about the "cleanest" and highest-protein dry food I've been able to find. Tiki Cat & Wellness Signature Selects are our go-to canned brands, but only certain flavors from each because some of them contain icky ingredients like carrageenan. Oh, and they get the occasional can of Trader Joe's "Tuna for Cats" as a treat. I prefer the nutritional makeup of Nature's Variety Instinct canned food over all others, but my girls suddenly stopped eating it. I think it may be a texture issue - the NV is smooth/paté-like, whereas Tiki & Wellness are shreds or chunks in gravy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I really wish I could feed them a raw diet. I tried several times throughout the year, but they just wouldn't go for it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 1, 2013 05:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not fer nuthin, but Zoe just had surgery for gum disease... after 14 years duing which all she at was dry food! I had to transition all the cats to wet to stop Fat Freddy from eating himself into crippling obesity and diabetes. He's lost 1/3 of his 22 lbs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I agree that Nature's Instinct is the best of what I've found so far... unfortunately, Freddy is so hungry after the right number of calories from it that he drives us crazy with wailing (he's not normal metabolically) and Zoe needs more moderate protein and lower phosphorous, unless we get more normal kidnet tests back. That's from the dry food, we believe.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I also am really bummed that carageenan is in so many "premium" foods.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The highest protein dry I found was where the effects got really bad. For two of our cats. :-/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Glad you're posting, GHG!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    fldhkybnva RE: mcf Oct 1, 2013 05:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mcf it wasn't clear to me from the site, if on all wet food is 6 oz a day enough? My cat wails if that's all he gets.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mcf RE: fldhkybnva Oct 1, 2013 06:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think you go by how your cat looks. I've found feeding guides unhelpful, they'd have me feeding about 3 times as miuch as I do. If young, is he growing? On high protein, they don't fatten up, but feel pretty solid.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My experience is that only rare cats will overeat and make themselves obese, Freddy is a freak of nature, probably with Cushing's or something.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        fldhkybnva RE: mcf Oct 1, 2013 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You're quite right. He will wail for food and at those times I just give it to him and he gobbles it up, but I have noticed at other times when I feed him when he's not begging for food such as in the morning when I have to feed him at a particular time before I go to work he eats and leaves food if he's not that hungry at that time, to finish it later. I guess I should remember that when fed well, just as us humans, animals can regulate their own weight well.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 1, 2013 01:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Well I didn't suggest giving *only* dry food for preventing periodontal problems! I doubt a strictly dry diet allows for sufficient saliva production, and a dry mouth is a breeding ground for bacteria & inflammation. There are also genetic factors that contribute to gum disease, and I know from personal experience that even meticulous oral care and proper nutrition still won't prevent it when your genes and/or your body's indigenous bacteria have the upper hand.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Poor Zoe :( It sucks to go through that surgery & the recovery, I hope she's doing okay. BTW, beware of giving her anything very cold because her teeth might be overly sensitive to extreme temperatures. The surgery heightened my sensitivity like you wouldn't believe. For the first 6-8 weeks after my stitches came out I couldn't put anything in my mouth unless it was lukewarm; even room temperature was too cold. 4+ months later my heat tolerance has returned, but I still can't chew anything straight from the fridge, and the mere thought of putting something iced or frozen in my mouth is painful.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        mcf RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 1, 2013 03:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Zoe's been a very happy camper since recovering from pain the day after surgery. She wasn't suffering apparently before it. Since Jasper's gone, she's so much less timid and fearful since he was very aggressive her whole life. She's showing only much more contentment, no fear of playing with a mouse for fear of his hearing it and coming running to pounce on her. Freddy has gotten aggressive with her once or twice, since Jasper's gone, he was the alpha and enforcer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Zoe isn't bothered by fridge food so far, no signs of it, but good reminder to watch for it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I Just wish I'd known to keep them off dry all those years, other than little snacks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          goodhealthgourmet RE: mcf Oct 1, 2013 07:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Sounds like she recovered beautifully, I'm so glad to hear it! Every time I accidentally let something cold hit one of my sensitive teeth I have the urge to rip them all out of my head just to stop the pain - I can't imagine a kitty having to go through that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      fldhkybnva RE: goodhealthgourmet Oct 1, 2013 05:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My kitty doesn't like the pâté style either.