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Lower-moderate priced Italian in Manhattan?

covalentlybound Oct 14, 2012 10:34 AM


I've tried searching the boards for Italian restaurant suggestions, but I seem to be finding posts that are either shorts-wearers or price-is-no-option, and I'm honestly a little overwhelmed by all the Italian restaurants out there.

If at all possible, we would like to keep our total food bill for 2 people to about $60-80 (though if it's really good and absolutely worth it, we would be willing to go up to $100). We don't usually order secondi's, so we'd probably be looking at 1 (maybe 2 if they're tiny) shared appetizer(s), 2 primi dishes, and 2 desserts. There needs to be at least a couple non-seafood options (allergy). We don't drink wine at all, but may enjoy 1 chocolatey cocktail each.

We would like go for a nice anniversary dinner, dressed in slacks and button-down shirts (really don't want to wear suit coats), in a quieter/calmer atmosphere (ie not super loud music and lots of banging and clamoring). I'm not really looking for the modern feel/look/atmosphere, but will put up with it if the food is worth it. We live on Roosevelt Island (near UES, F line), so certain areas like western West Village, Tribeca, and UWS are a little more inconvenient to get to.

I hope I've covered all the questions y'all normally end up asking.

Thank you for your help,
Rose and Jenn

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    AubWah RE: covalentlybound Oct 14, 2012 12:21 PM

    Why is West Village inconvenient, the F stops right at West 4th street. Try Bar Pitti, right off that stop on 6th avenue.

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      kathryn RE: AubWah Oct 14, 2012 05:36 PM

      "Western West Village" is inconvenient, ie by Hudson St, I assume.

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        covalentlybound RE: kathryn Oct 14, 2012 06:29 PM

        Kathryn, you're right - that is mostly what I meant. However, it was because I honestly forgot that you could still easily walk over there from the F train. The only time we've wandered west of Hudson, we were cut off from the F line by a 3 hour long parade.

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      kathryn RE: covalentlybound Oct 14, 2012 05:42 PM

      Does that $30-50pp include tax AND tip AND one cocktail? If so, you don't really have a lot of budget actually allotted to food.

      $50pp after tax and tip is about $38 for food. So $25 for 2.5-3 courses plus one $13 cocktail is very low for a not too loud, anniversary dinner.

      You might be able to do it at Hearth if one of your primi is their famous gnocchi ($11).

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        covalentlybound RE: kathryn Oct 14, 2012 06:36 PM

        I meant $30-50 just for the food, not including tax, tip, or cocktail. I just mentioned the cocktail in case that rung a bell with anyone. I'm hoping for the primi to be $20ish. However, if it's just not possible overall with a quieter place, then that's a good thing to know as well, and we'll adjust our mental expectations accordingly.

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        Pan RE: covalentlybound Oct 14, 2012 08:02 PM

        Interestingly, you could do Scarpetta, if you share one "primo piatto" ($16-19) and then have one pasta ($24-28) apiece. The desserts are $12 apiece, which puts you over budget, but still less (even if barely less) than $100: the most that combination of food would cost you, before tax and tip, is $99, and the least (including the 2 desserts, and figuring on one shared "primo piatto" and not two) is $88. And I think this may be the nice, quiet/calm anniversary dinner you're looking for, though the place does have a modern look (but not a harsh one).

        And it's much better than Hearth.

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          kathryn RE: Pan Oct 15, 2012 08:31 AM

          I think Scarpetta is an excellent choice given the clarification on budget!

          Note that the appetizers vary greatly in size, though. The raw fish dishes are on the small size, for example, while the polenta and short ribs are pretty filling.

          Overall, I find the pasta sizes to be on the more generous size, and the bread basket is phenomenal, as are the free house-made chips at the bar. So you could do 2 appetizers, 2 pastas, and share 1 dessert, and still leave absolutely stuffed. Also if you are a chocolate fan, their chocolate cake is excellent.

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          Tubulus RE: covalentlybound Oct 15, 2012 06:35 AM

          Via Emilia. Modenese food. If you ordered the most expensive apps and pastas you'd still be looking at <$50 a person for 3 courses. Great food. We've been at least a dozen times and have eaten every pasta (which are all plenty big - never tried a secondi).

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            drmoze RE: Tubulus Oct 16, 2012 04:44 PM

            I was going to suggest Via Emilia (close to 23rd St and Union Square subways, 21st between 5th and Park). I believe they are still cash-only. Great pastas and dishes, reasonable prices, nice modern/mellow atmosphere.

          2. sgordon RE: covalentlybound Oct 15, 2012 07:36 AM

            You could do Babbo for that price, certainly - Antipasti are generally around $15, Pastas in the low $20s (let's say $23 average - actually a bit cheaper than Scarpetta, and for my money superior) - desserts were $13 each as I recall. 1+2+2 of those and we're at $87. And it's right near the West 4th F Train stop.

            I don't know that they'd have any chocolately cocktails, though... but I suppose any decent bartender with crème de cacao behind the bar will be able to whip up a Brandy Alexander or something.

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              Pan RE: sgordon Oct 15, 2012 03:31 PM

              Babbo may not be the atmosphere they're looking for. I actually kind of liked the music, but I was upstairs, and it's pretty unusual to hear Guns 'n Roses in an upscale restaurant.

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                RCC RE: Pan Oct 15, 2012 04:25 PM

                Or the Rolling Stones complete Let it Bleed album. One of the perks at dining at Babbo.

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                  sgordon RE: RCC Oct 15, 2012 05:25 PM

                  Last time we were there it was an R.E.M.-fest. But then Mario and Michael Stipe are buddies...

                  They don't play romantic music, no, but the music is never particularly loud, either. It's very much in the background, perfectly conducive for talking, as opposed to more scenester / clubbier places...

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              foodwhisperer RE: covalentlybound Oct 15, 2012 08:48 AM

              Il Brigante on Front St. by South St. seaport. The food is great, the place is simple and inexpensive. There is a ferry to there that is fairly convenient, and makes several stops along the river.

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                Brian W RE: covalentlybound Oct 15, 2012 07:51 PM

                You could take the Tram and walk to Tiella at 1109 1st Ave @ 61 St. Very nice place and excellent food. The last time we went we ordered two specials and one special app so the price was higher. That plus one glass of wine two desserts and two coffees came to $97 + tip.

                There's also Il Vagabondo, a short walk from the Tram at 351 East 62nd Street. Last time there I had the Orecchiette with sausage and it was very good. Prices should be within your parameters.

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                  City Kid RE: covalentlybound Oct 16, 2012 11:57 AM

                  I was totally charmed last week by Firenze, on Second Ave. between 82nd and 83rd, a nice walk from the tram. Just the sort of neighborhood Italian you could easily wander into in Florence: lovely romantic decor, excellent service, very solid food, and gently priced. Complimentary bruschetta, biscotti, and limoncello helped win me over. I can't wait to go back.

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                    arepo RE: City Kid Oct 16, 2012 05:02 PM

                    Easy one.
                    Crispo's at 14th St. bet. 7 & 8

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                      Pan RE: arepo Oct 16, 2012 06:02 PM

                      Nope. Please reread what the original poster is looking for:

                      "quieter/calmer atmosphere (ie not super loud music and lots of banging and clamoring)"

                      Crispo is very loud and totally unsuitable for them. No disrespect to you: I like Crispo, but it really is not what they're looking for.

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