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Green salad in France

what has happened to salad and vegetables in general in France? They are hard to find on menus and when you do, the salads are over dressed. I learned to dress a salad from Julia Child :).

If you have any suggestions for good salads in the Luberon, please send them my way.

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  1. Salad is never a major medium. I was told by my first French "culinary consultant" that it was mainly to clear the palette. One never sees classic French salads piling in the kitchen sink, as restos in California do.

    I seldom order salad, - preferring vegetables, - and do not find it overdressed.

    Provence restaurants, like Provence, have great vegetables. Where have you been eating, where you found none? This is very curious.

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    1. re: Parigi

      we have been in Aix en Provence until today with two of the days being Sunday ad Monday. The food was not memorable.

      1. re: veggielover

        If you have been eating at the terrasse restaurants along Cours Mirabeau, I am not surprised. In my jaded opinion, Aix is a place for picnics so you can control the quality of the food.

        1. re: mangeur

          Where would you suggest eating in Aix then? We will be staying in Aix for a few days in November. We plan on picnicking on market goodies for some of the meals, but we are also hoping to eat at least a couple of restaurant meals.

          1. re: arlenemae

            We've had enjoyable meals at l'Epicurien & le Poivre d'Ane, both in the Forum des Cardeurs.

            1. re: arlenemae

              My only good meal in Aix: Le Millefeuille on the the cul-de-sac part of the rue Rifle-Rafle (or is it Rafle-Rifle?) sorta off the place Verdun. Found through the lefooding guide.

              1. re: Parnassien

                Millefeuille is an excellent choice. I have eaten there with friends and clients, and everyone loves it. I also tried the Epicurien in the Place Cardeurs, and found the food and service sadly lacking.

                1. re: sderham

                  Thanks, I'll put Millefeuille is on the list. Will look into the others as well.

          2. re: veggielover

            I have not had memorable food in Aix in general, but I did not notice that the salad and veg were bad and the rest was good.

          3. re: Parigi

            I like a good salade composee as much as the next guy. You know, some lardons, gesiers or slices of magret fume.

            Come on, everybody likes that....

            1. re: Busk

              "Come on, everybody likes that."

              I like it, no more than "like" it, and not enough ever to order it in restaurants.

          4. No idea about the Luberon, but as opposed to 55 years ago, veggies are all over.
            Green salads are no longer menu items.
            So, If you don't see it, just ask for a green salad.
            99/100 it'll be no problem, and in my case, they are dressed underly, not drenched.

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            1. re: John Talbott

              My wife sometimes asks for a salade vert at lunch, even when there is no listing on the carte. Nine times out of 10, the restaurant will provide one -- sometimes a very fine version. -- Jake

              1. re: Jake Dear

                Thanks. I will try it. BTW, I had the best salad of the trip so far at a restaurant at a hotel in Fontaine de Vaucluse, nice greens, lightly dressed.

              2. re: John Talbott

                I guess I am remembering 20 years ago.

                1. re: veggielover

                  I think you are, and I am too. Part of it is that plain green salads have gotten much better in the US and have deteriorated somewhat in France, so they're no longer the memorable item they were when we first travelled.

                  I remember being shocked/intrigued when the salad was intentionally served onto the same dish that had held the plat, in order to incorporate the small amount of remaining sauce.

                  1. re: rswatkins

                    Oh yes. That is the taste of France.

                    1. re: rswatkins

                      Ah, but the Lyonnaise Salad and Pissenlits are alive and well in Lyon and environs!