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veggielover Oct 9, 2012 08:44 AM

what has happened to salad and vegetables in general in France? They are hard to find on menus and when you do, the salads are over dressed. I learned to dress a salad from Julia Child :).

If you have any suggestions for good salads in the Luberon, please send them my way.

  1. Parigi Oct 9, 2012 08:48 AM

    Salad is never a major medium. I was told by my first French "culinary consultant" that it was mainly to clear the palette. One never sees classic French salads piling in the kitchen sink, as restos in California do.

    I seldom order salad, - preferring vegetables, - and do not find it overdressed.

    Provence restaurants, like Provence, have great vegetables. Where have you been eating, where you found none? This is very curious.

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      veggielover Oct 9, 2012 08:57 AM

      we have been in Aix en Provence until today with two of the days being Sunday ad Monday. The food was not memorable.

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        mangeur Oct 9, 2012 09:11 AM

        If you have been eating at the terrasse restaurants along Cours Mirabeau, I am not surprised. In my jaded opinion, Aix is a place for picnics so you can control the quality of the food.

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          arlenemae Oct 9, 2012 11:23 AM

          Where would you suggest eating in Aix then? We will be staying in Aix for a few days in November. We plan on picnicking on market goodies for some of the meals, but we are also hoping to eat at least a couple of restaurant meals.

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            boredough Oct 9, 2012 11:52 AM

            We've had enjoyable meals at l'Epicurien & le Poivre d'Ane, both in the Forum des Cardeurs.

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              Parnassien Oct 9, 2012 11:52 AM

              My only good meal in Aix: Le Millefeuille on the the cul-de-sac part of the rue Rifle-Rafle (or is it Rafle-Rifle?) sorta off the place Verdun. Found through the lefooding guide.

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                sderham Oct 9, 2012 06:21 PM

                Millefeuille is an excellent choice. I have eaten there with friends and clients, and everyone loves it. I also tried the Epicurien in the Place Cardeurs, and found the food and service sadly lacking.

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                  arlenemae Oct 10, 2012 09:56 PM

                  Thanks, I'll put Millefeuille is on the list. Will look into the others as well.

          2. re: veggielover
            Parigi Oct 9, 2012 10:26 AM

            I have not had memorable food in Aix in general, but I did not notice that the salad and veg were bad and the rest was good.

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            Busk Oct 9, 2012 11:51 AM

            I like a good salade composee as much as the next guy. You know, some lardons, gesiers or slices of magret fume.

            Come on, everybody likes that....

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              Parigi Oct 9, 2012 12:02 PM

              "Come on, everybody likes that."

              I like it, no more than "like" it, and not enough ever to order it in restaurants.

          4. John Talbott Oct 9, 2012 12:18 PM

            No idea about the Luberon, but as opposed to 55 years ago, veggies are all over.
            Green salads are no longer menu items.
            So, If you don't see it, just ask for a green salad.
            99/100 it'll be no problem, and in my case, they are dressed underly, not drenched.

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              Jake Dear Oct 9, 2012 12:50 PM

              My wife sometimes asks for a salade vert at lunch, even when there is no listing on the carte. Nine times out of 10, the restaurant will provide one -- sometimes a very fine version. -- Jake

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                veggielover Oct 10, 2012 12:09 AM

                Thanks. I will try it. BTW, I had the best salad of the trip so far at a restaurant at a hotel in Fontaine de Vaucluse, nice greens, lightly dressed.

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                veggielover Oct 10, 2012 12:10 AM

                I guess I am remembering 20 years ago.

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                  rswatkins Oct 10, 2012 11:03 AM

                  I think you are, and I am too. Part of it is that plain green salads have gotten much better in the US and have deteriorated somewhat in France, so they're no longer the memorable item they were when we first travelled.

                  I remember being shocked/intrigued when the salad was intentionally served onto the same dish that had held the plat, in order to incorporate the small amount of remaining sauce.

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                    Ptipois Oct 10, 2012 12:13 PM

                    Oh yes. That is the taste of France.

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                      ChefJune Oct 10, 2012 01:57 PM

                      Ah, but the Lyonnaise Salad and Pissenlits are alive and well in Lyon and environs!

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