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Philly Cheesteak joint on Lincoln (and Superba) in the Santa Monica/Venice corridor

kevin Oct 7, 2012 03:16 PM

what do guys think ?

do they also serve it with Cheez Whizz as an option ???

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    nosh RE: kevin Oct 7, 2012 04:29 PM

    If you are thinking of the Philly Cheesesteak shack on the east side of Lincoln a few blocks north of Baby Blues BBQ, forget it. I had a very bad cheesesteak when I tried theirs, with horribly burnt onions and a really couldn't care attitude. Try going further south to El Segundo, and try Big Mike's which is on the west side of Main. Or hit Philly West, a divy bar on the east side of Westwood Blvd. just south of Santa Monica Blvd. for a really good, inexpensive, and a bit small Philly Cheesesteak. Note they have free parking in the back.

    edit: Just remembered, the place on Lincoln is Great Western, or something like that. I guess I was trying to blot out the memory.

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      kevin RE: nosh Oct 7, 2012 05:06 PM

      thanx for the update.

      yeah, i've been to philly west many many many times.

      just thought i might give the great western philly steak co. a try, but yeah it doesn't sound too promising.

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        nosh RE: kevin Oct 7, 2012 08:59 PM

        Give it a try -- less than a ten-spot to waste, and maybe your luck will be a lot better than mine.

        I love a good cheesesteak!

        I just didn't have a good experience there at all. It was a pretty hot, sunny day, so I remember being warm waiting. I recall flies. It took awhile, and nothing to look at, nobody to talk to, nothing to read. And then I didn't like the final product.

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      jdwdeville RE: kevin Oct 8, 2012 09:24 AM

      I've had it- not bad at all, guess I've been there when they are on their game. Though, the regular size is a bit small by Philly standards- I get the double meat cheesesteak with onions and mushrooms, NO SAUCE. Remember, no sauce. Who in their right mind puts pizza sauce on a cheesesteak, anyway?

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        kevin RE: jdwdeville Oct 8, 2012 10:14 AM

        i'm presuming your response is to Philly West and not the Great Steak Co. on Lincoln, correct ?

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          Servorg RE: kevin Oct 8, 2012 10:59 AM

          I'm pretty certain that jdw meant the Great Steak Co. on Lincoln and Superba with his/her reply to you, (the give away was the "Who in their right mind puts pizza sauce on a cheesesteak anyway?" line that they wrote). Great Steak touts just that, they put pizza sauce on their cheesesteak's...

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            kevin RE: Servorg Oct 8, 2012 11:12 AM

            My bad. Because Philly West which I have been to countless times also as a default puts pizza sauce on all their cheesesteaks unless you specify sans sauce.

            My friend didn't realize that, ordered the standard cheesesteak, and had to send the sandwich back upon realizing their was tomato sauce on there. I also agree that tomato sauce has no place on a cheesesteak.

            Though I do like their hot vegetable sandwich with melted mozzarella which reminds me almost of a really great calzone for lack of a better term.

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              Servorg RE: kevin Oct 8, 2012 11:15 AM

              Well, now you've totally confused the issue and I don't know which one jdw, meant. I have to try the place on Lincoln. The photos of the food over on Yelp make it look damn tasty.

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                kevin RE: Servorg Oct 8, 2012 11:30 AM

                btw, i tried the gyros at the petit cafe and they were pretty fucking tasty, though it was heavy as all hell.

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                  Servorg RE: kevin Oct 8, 2012 11:35 AM

                  And, just so those at home can follow along, the Petit Cafe was mentioned by Kevin over here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/872510 as a potential hot gyro place.

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                  jdwdeville RE: Servorg Oct 8, 2012 12:54 PM

                  I am referring to the place on Lincoln- like I said, though, not bad- which is not a tacit "good".
                  If you live near the place, go ahead, but I wouldn't drive to it...

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                    Servorg RE: jdwdeville Oct 8, 2012 12:59 PM

                    Thanks. Where in the WLA/Santa Monica/Venice area do you go for a good cheesesteak?

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                      jdwdeville RE: Servorg Oct 8, 2012 01:53 PM

                      Actually I moved across town last year and haven't really looked back since- when the cheesesteak craving strikes, I buy a NY Strip or Ribeye and make it myself...

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                        kevin RE: jdwdeville Oct 8, 2012 04:31 PM

                        If you are anywhere near Hollywood, I have heard great notice's for Boo's Philly cheesteaks.

                        I have only tried the turkey hoagie there so I can't speak as to the cheesesteaks.

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                          AndrewF RE: kevin Oct 9, 2012 02:55 PM

                          The cheesesteaks at Boo's are really, really good. Worth the drive to Silver Lake (for me, anyways).

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                            LAgirl2 RE: kevin Oct 9, 2012 06:10 PM

                            their cheesesteaks are very good. i also had one recently @ beer belly in Ktown. it wasn't as good as Boo's (still pretty good although pricier) but the excellent craft brews sorta-kinda splits the difference.

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                              jdwdeville RE: kevin Oct 11, 2012 11:21 AM

                              I'm actually quite close to Boo's. Haven't been yet, mainly because my work schedule has currently edged out the workout time I'd have to set aside after eating one...

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                                kevin RE: jdwdeville Oct 11, 2012 12:19 PM

                                Fair enough.

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                            Dirtywextraolives RE: Servorg Oct 9, 2012 02:22 PM

                            I know it's a chain, G forbid, but I just had one for the first time, at Jersey Mike's on corner of Lincoln & Washington. It was better than Great western which I recall as being fine but completely unmemorable.....

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                              chuck RE: Servorg Oct 10, 2012 07:03 PM

                              I go to the South Philly Experience truck. It is usually on Olympic between Bundy and Centinella one day a week and on Pennsylvania between Stewart and 26 on Fridays for lunches.

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                            PaulF RE: Servorg Oct 9, 2012 01:02 PM

                            After youth football practice we always went here or to that George's place up the street. IIRC, I used to get the hoagie and it was fine. 12 year old boys who just finished football practice will eat anything.

                            George's was/is better if you like greasy diner food.

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                              Servorg RE: PaulF Oct 9, 2012 01:20 PM

                              I've been to George's, and it's okay. So far, if I'm in the mood for gyro then I go back to Sunny Grill. If it's greasy burger's then I normally head over to Pepy's or Ronnie's or sometimes Big Tomy's.

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                                kevin RE: Servorg Oct 9, 2012 02:31 PM

                                I got to say that I actually really like Ronnie's Diner now. for that burger combo special.

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                                  PaulF RE: Servorg Oct 9, 2012 07:14 PM

                                  The good thing about going to George's with 10 youth football players is the vastness of the menu. And I could find something that wouldn't kill me.

                                  We practiced in Marine Park, down the street. So, it was mostly cheap and convenient. But it won't kill you and some of the sandwiches are pretty good, not great.

                                  My "better" remark was only in relation to the sub shop.

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                                    kevin RE: PaulF Oct 9, 2012 07:17 PM

                                    What do you mean by it won't kill you ? Do you mean the pastrami sandwich or gyro's is somewhat healthy even though those are usually very unhealthy ?

                                    Or do you mean that they have salads on the menu and grilled salmon sandwiches or avocado and sprouts on wheat bread ?

                                    sorry my bad if i misunderstood.

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                                      PaulF RE: kevin Oct 9, 2012 08:59 PM

                                      I just meant that the quality isn't great, but it's not that bad that it would kill you.

                                      I was just being metaphoric. I didn't really mean anything by it other than it's okay and nothing I ever had is that bad.

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                                        kevin RE: PaulF Oct 10, 2012 05:06 PM

                                        Cool. My misunderstanding.

                                        In that case, I may skip it since there is a list of other junk food places I have yet to hit up.


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                                  kevin RE: PaulF Oct 9, 2012 02:31 PM

                                  I;ve never actually eaten at george's across from the whole foods but it does look like a stalwart that's been there for ages with myriad of fast-food items from fried zuchinni sticks to gyros to pastrami dip sandwiches to triple chili cheeseburgers.

                                  It reminds me of the menu if not the look of the All American Burger chain, we I still miss dearly.

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                                    PaulF RE: kevin Oct 9, 2012 07:15 PM

                                    It's a YMMV type of greasy food place.

                                    You haven't missed much by not going.

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                                      EricDC RE: PaulF Oct 10, 2012 10:13 AM

                                      A lot of people hate on Great Western, but I rather like it.

                                      It reminds me of Abner's in university city. (But yes, be forewarned: they need to be told to hold the pizza sauce.)

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                                        Servorg RE: EricDC Oct 10, 2012 10:22 AM

                                        http://www.urbanspoon.com/u/menu/66493 and I notice in another online review that it's cash only. Which of their cheese steaks do you like the best and do they hold the pizza sauce without any fuss for you?

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                                          cagey RE: Servorg Oct 10, 2012 11:10 AM

                                          OK, I've been holding my tongue here for obvious reasons. (This board can be very unforgiving on personal preferences and guilty pleasures.) The fellow that mans the grill at GWS&H started there as a young kid back in the mid-80s. Not the friendliest bloke, but would you be in similar confines? How much congeniality do you want while you stand in line and wait for your steak?

                                          Been going to this spot on and off for well over 30 years. Yes, things have changed (as have my palate and urges). This place can be hit or miss, even for a regular.

                                          Years ago (after winter surfing or sailing) we'd stop here and get nice hot cheesesteaks to warm us up. Are they for purists? No. Did they hit the spot, yes. Were some stops better than others, definitely.

                                          With regards to favorites, cheese and/or pizza sauce choices.... I used to order "cheese steak, extra cheese, light pizza sauce and easy onions." I have since dropped the "extra cheese" request - unless you want a superball of cheese in your gut afterward. Never asked (or wanted to ask) about Cheez Whiz, thanksverymuch. And I happen to be a fan of "light" pizza sauce, if only to alleviate any dryness of the toasted bun or chopped steak. If the place is busy, you may get yours overcooked. But on a good day, it does just fine. They'll hold "anything" you want them to on the steaks sandos.

                                          To compare it to Mike's in El Segundo is like comparing apples and oranges. Both are fine - if that's your style. Strictly a YMMV place but let's not try to get too fussy. After all, someone brought George's (formerly Rod's Burgers) into this mix.

                                          One last note re: the OP's title. It's firmly in "Venice." The scions of Santa Monica or MDR would have run this place out on a rail 20 years ago.

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                                            kevin RE: cagey Oct 10, 2012 05:09 PM

                                            my bad, cagey, i didn't mean to disregard this joint. just curious about it, and i wasn't sure if it was located in venice or santa monica. but on second thought, once you hit rose along lincoln, you're usually smack dab in the middle of venice right ???

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                                              kevin RE: cagey Oct 10, 2012 05:10 PM

                                              btw, has anyone rode the venice canals in venice beach, ca ??? can you rent the gondolas to ride along the mini-waterways and is there any restaurant that you can actually pull up to that's decent from the canola if riding one of the gondolas ?


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                                              kevin RE: Servorg Oct 10, 2012 05:07 PM

                                              I have to say Philly West is pretty fucking good. Not authentic in the Philly sense but it would hold a baby candle to the real stuff.

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                                                cagey RE: kevin Oct 10, 2012 05:21 PM

                                                Philly West.... I haven't been there in years. And to show how long that's been, I seem to recall it being north of SM Blvd on Westwood Blvd? Maybe it's moved since 1983?

                                                Re: GWS&H location, no worries. It's along that "Lincoln Corridor," if you will. :)

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                                                  kevin RE: cagey Oct 10, 2012 05:32 PM

                                                  wow, i haven't been going there since 83, so it's very conceivable that they moved in the ensuing years.

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                                                EricDC RE: Servorg Oct 10, 2012 05:51 PM

                                                They indeed hold the sauce with no fuss. They also (gruffly) take phone orders in advance, which is great - you order ten minutes before you get there, and it's piping hot and ready.

                                                I get a mushroom provolone cheesesteak with onions, hold the pizza sauce. Sometimes I get double meat, if I'm feeling really adventurous or plan to make two meals out of it (or plan to share one with a friend, which is totally doable with double meat).

                                                I prefer it over Philly West purely in terms of, "Does it make me happy to eat this?" But it's strictly an eat-and-go stand. You can't watch Eagles games here, for instance.

                                                That said, though I don't go nearly as often as I used to, I still eat here every couple of months, when I'm in the neighborhood and have a hankering. It's still my favorite beef-and-cheese-on-bread sandwich in LA.

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                                                  Servorg RE: EricDC Oct 10, 2012 05:53 PM

                                                  Thanks. It goes on my likely list since it's not all that far from our house.

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