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Michelin Stars 2013

Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 12:51 PM

3 stars:

Brooklyn Fare
Per Se
Le Bernardin
Jean Georges
Eleven Madison Park

2 stars:

Gordon Ramsey
Momofuku Ko

1 star:

Ai Fiori
A Voce Columbus
A Voce Madison
Blue Hill
The Breslin
Café Boulud
Café China
Casa Mono
Danny Brown Wine Bar & Kitchen
Del Posto
15 East
Gotham Bar and Grill
Gramercy Tavern
Jewel Bako
Kyo Ya
Lan Sheng
Minetta Tavern
The Modern
Peter Luger
Picholine (currently closed)
River Café
Rouge Tomate
Spotted Pig
Sushi Azabu
Sushi of Gari
Tamarind Tribeca
Tori Shin
Torrisi Italian Specialties


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  1. sgordon RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 01:19 PM

    I've been harping for a couple years now that Chef Jernmark has deserved an upgrade at Aquavit since he really found his groove and stepped out from the shadow of his more TV-friendly predecessor. Great news for him and and his whole kitchen. Hopefully people who'd written them off as an old warhorse give them a new try under the new team, now!

    I expect most of the list will be the same as last year - anyone have predictions for other newbies / upgrades / downgrades? I'm figuring Jungsik for one, maybe two. Don't know if Kajitsu will hold their two with the new chef... hard to say. I could see Kyo Ya moving up to the deuce, perhaps.

    The continued presence of Gordon Ramsey and Gilt at the two-star level boggles my mind.

    Maybe Bouley, WD-50 or The Modern could sneak up to two as well... Acme could be a newcomer for a single star, I bet.

    Something in Brooklyn will make the list... Battersby, I'm sure. Maybe the mysterious Frej, if the inspectors ever managed to get in?

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      ellenost RE: sgordon Oct 2, 2012 01:24 PM

      I hope Jungsik earns some Michelin stars since I had an amazing dinner with them last Friday, and would be thrilled for them to see some "love" from the Michelin judges.

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        Cheeryvisage RE: ellenost Oct 2, 2012 01:52 PM

        Yes, Jungsik absolutely deserves stars. I wish them the best.

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          ellenost RE: Cheeryvisage Oct 2, 2012 02:14 PM

          Jungsik received a Michelin star!

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            Cheeryvisage RE: ellenost Oct 2, 2012 02:18 PM

            Wohoo!!!! I'm so happy for them!!

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            Scott_C RE: Cheeryvisage Oct 2, 2012 02:20 PM

            Jungsik got a star!

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              Cheeryvisage RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 02:20 PM


        2. re: sgordon
          ellenost RE: sgordon Oct 2, 2012 01:25 PM

          Very happy for EMP, The NoMad, Momofuku Ko, Atera and Corton.

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            Sneakeater RE: sgordon Oct 2, 2012 02:13 PM

            Battersby got a Bib Gourmand so it can't get a star.

            ETA -- Oops. You already know that.

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              andrew_eats RE: sgordon Oct 3, 2012 03:44 PM

              I went to Wd~50 a couple weeks ago. A single star is adequate, the meal is great, but not worth the 'off the beaten track' journey that the Michlein Guide describes.

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                Shichman RE: sgordon Oct 4, 2012 02:10 PM

                Totally agree, i had an AMAZING meal at Aquavit last year, as good, or rather better than Le Bern, Marea, etc... It was incredible, and a good value also. The chef greeted us at our table after we ate and was very nice, i'm extremely happy they are getting the recognition they deserve!

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                rae305 RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 01:33 PM

                Jungsik deserves stars. Food, decor, everything about the rest is Great.

                1. loratliff RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 01:45 PM

                  Yep, the calls are going out today! The Breslin kept its star too.

                  Very happy about the NoMad—eating there for the first time on Thursday, which is the "official" day the list is released. Totally coincidental, but I feel like it's always a good time to eat out that night.

                  I was hoping this would be the year for Roberta's, but I saw they're still on the Bib Gourmand list. Did Blanca open too late for a star?

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                    sgordon RE: loratliff Oct 2, 2012 01:52 PM

                    I think with Blanca splitting off, Roberta's proper will never move up to a full star. I don't know what one has to do to do it - I can't remember the last time (if ever) I've eaten at Momofuku Ssam for under $40/pp, yet they seem permanently relegated to the Bib G list.

                    Just noticed Battersby was on the Bib G list... so I guess they won't be reppin' BK for the star list, then...

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                    OverseasEater RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 02:03 PM

                    I have long been a fan of the Michelin Guide (I even supported them when they felt like calling themselves Guide Rouge). Lately however I've started having doubts about their criteria. As mentioned Gordon Ramsey at The London's two stars have been questioned since they opened.

                    I guess Obama can feel hip now and tell people how he ate at The NoMad before they got their star. He'll only be missing the pastel Wayfarers.

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                      kyph0515 RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 02:22 PM

                      NYT article: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/din...

                      I'm quite shocked that Lan Sheng got a star, tbh...

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                        Cheeryvisage RE: kyph0515 Oct 2, 2012 02:23 PM

                        Lan Sheng is good and all, but a Michelin star...? Cafe China too.... It's puzzling. Right now, my favorite Sichuan restaurant is Land of Plenty.

                        However, I'm very happy about Hakkasan's 1 star, as well as 15 East's star.

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                          kyph0515 RE: Cheeryvisage Oct 2, 2012 03:00 PM

                          I was at Lan Sheng on Friday night. It was good, above-average Sichuan food, but I don't see why one would hand them a star (while you're at it why not give Duo Yi, Grand Sichuan, Wu Liang Ye stars too...?). I can't speak to authenticity, but the food is merely on par with other decent Sichuan options in the city, the decor is nondescript, and the service - well let's just say there are some rough edges.

                          A head-scratcher, this one.

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                            Cheeryvisage RE: kyph0515 Oct 2, 2012 03:02 PM

                            Yeah, exactly. I don't understand this either.

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                              Scott_C RE: kyph0515 Oct 2, 2012 03:05 PM

                              I agree. I've been served stale food twice at Lan Sheng and have avoided it ever since.

                              So puzzling that it bumped Marc Forgione off the list.

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                                deepfry7 RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 03:14 PM

                                I'm definitely a fan of Marc Forgione. He can join the snubbed list that includes Babbo.

                                I thought Bouley and Blanca have 2-star worthy food. At Bouley, the "Forager's Treasure" of grilled toro with wild mushrooms in black truffle dressing is one of the best dishes I've ever had, period. And I know taste-wise, people prefer Blanca over Atera.

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                                  ellenost RE: deepfry7 Oct 2, 2012 03:36 PM

                                  +1 for that delicious dish (among others) at Bouley! Heading back to Bouley in a few weeks for what I know will be another amazing dinner!

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                                    kosmose7 RE: deepfry7 Oct 2, 2012 05:10 PM

                                    Agreed. I thnk Blanca deserves at least two stars or even three stars. I enjoyed Blanca more than I did Atera.

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                                      deepfry7 RE: kosmose7 Oct 2, 2012 05:28 PM

                                      Yea, I've read that some people prefer Blanca over Brooklyn Fare. More varied proteins (BF is much more seafood-centric) and the ability to take pictures.

                                      I've only done the tasting at Roberta's and went to BF back in summer 2010, but I liked Roberta's better.

                                      My apologies, Chowhound moderators. I know this is more Outer Boroughs.

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                                      RosalineS RE: deepfry7 Oct 20, 2012 07:06 PM

                                      Not surprised about Marc Forgione. I had the most disappointing brunch there recently. How could they screw up French Toast, esp since they served it half-an-hour after my husband received his "Sandwich" with burnt pancakes!

                                      1. re: RosalineS
                                        sgordon RE: RosalineS Oct 20, 2012 07:27 PM

                                        Well, one brunch doesn't represent an entire year of food served by an establishment. While I'm sorry yours didn't turn out well, it's a restaurant that by and large gets very good response from the vast majority of diners. Every restaurant has an off day now and then. Not that you should go back if your one experience with them was bad - no second chances to make a first impression and all - but overall, MF gets very high marks from their patrons, so it's somewhat of a surprise to see them drop off.

                                        I've had rather underwhelming experiences at restaurants that many people love - Aldea and Annisa come to mind first - but I accept the fact that there might be something I missed, that I might have hit them on off nights, etc.

                                        But as to Lan Sheng "bumping" it - they didn't bump it. It's not like there's a finite number of restos allowed on the list or anything...

                                2. re: Cheeryvisage
                                  kosmose7 RE: Cheeryvisage Oct 2, 2012 05:10 PM

                                  At least it does Hakkasan some justice. I am happy for them! :)

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                                    Bob Martinez RE: Cheeryvisage Oct 2, 2012 08:13 PM

                                    Lan Sheng deserved a star for 3 years now. The only surprise for me is that it took that long. Asian restaurants are a Michelin blind spot.

                                    There's a long Lan Sheng here -

                                    There's no such thing as unanimity on CH but the consensus is that this place is terrific.

                                    Based on one visit I thought Wells overrated Cafe China. He gave it 2 stars - I thought it should have been a 1. It's a borderline Micheline star.

                                3. Cheeryvisage RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 02:32 PM

                                  Eater has the full list here: http://ny.eater.com/archives/2012/10/...

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                                    calf RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 03:10 PM

                                    15 East but not Sushi Yasuda? Why? Why??

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                                    1. re: calf
                                      Scott_C RE: calf Oct 2, 2012 03:12 PM

                                      And A Voce but not Babbo, Scarpetta or Lincoln? So strange.

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                                      sundropforever RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 03:42 PM

                                      Have wanted to Atera for quite some time. Now I'm never getting in, am I?! :(

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                                      1. re: sundropforever
                                        Scott_C RE: sundropforever Oct 2, 2012 03:55 PM

                                        You should try anyway ... who knows, Atera might get three stars next year, along with a hefty price hike :)

                                      2. Ziggy41 RE: Scott_C Oct 2, 2012 05:56 PM

                                        Scarpetta deserves to be there

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                                          OverseasEater RE: Scott_C Oct 3, 2012 01:16 AM

                                          Another thing I'm reacting to is the pear shaped distribution of the stars. There are seven 3* and seven 2* restaurants in NYC but no less than fifty-two 1*. Add to this that you could make an effective argument that the current list has more legitimate 3* than 2* (again, Gordon Ramsey, looking at you).

                                          Is Peter Luger really of the same caliber as Gotham Bar & Grill? How about WD-50 compared to A Voce? I can't help but feel that the the 1 and 2 stars could use some rearrangement.

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                                            mrrbi RE: Scott_C Oct 3, 2012 07:21 AM

                                            Finally, recognition of Jungsik!
                                            I would have thought at least two stars!
                                            Hopefully this is a start that will keep them in the game.

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                                              MrGrumpy RE: Scott_C Oct 3, 2012 07:31 AM

                                              Why was Kajitsu demoted from two stars to one star?

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                                                Cheeryvisage RE: MrGrumpy Oct 3, 2012 07:41 AM

                                                Perhaps because their old chef (who earned them the 2 stars) left?

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                                                  MrGrumpy RE: Cheeryvisage Oct 3, 2012 08:35 AM

                                                  I guess Michelin thinks that the quality has declined though I haven't read anything to that effect.

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                                                  Ricky RE: MrGrumpy Oct 3, 2012 01:32 PM

                                                  It's not the same restaurant after the first chef left, not necessarily bad, just different. The food is simpler now, a bit less creative, less use of non japanese local vegs and non japanese herbs like keffir lime leaves and thai basil, no use of local fruits.

                                                3. sgordon RE: Scott_C Oct 3, 2012 08:16 AM

                                                  Happy for:
                                                  Aquavit (of course - I wrote in these threads at least a year, if not two years ago they were deserving of another look and an upgrade)
                                                  Torrisi - excellent news. Though they might deserve a deuce, even.
                                                  Jungsik - no surprise there, I think it was inevitable.

                                                  I think in the case of some of the weird ones... the continued presence of GR@TL and Gilt at two stars, one wonders if it's a case of one of two things: either the inspectors haven't actually revisited these places, and are carrying over rankings from previous years, or, perhaps, given that we've probably had the same inspectors for the last X number of years... these people are becoming known to the house as regulars. Supposedly the rankings are for food alone, in a vacuum, with service and ambience and whatnot unaffecting the stars. But if you've become a semi-regular somewhere - and for these high-end places, if you go even two or three times a year, the staff takes note and remembers you - you're going to get a higher level of service, maybe the extra amuse or pre-dessert here and there, the comped glass of wine, etc. They don't know you're an inspector - but you become a VIP/PX, or at least an FOH at a certain point. They put you in a good mood, and when you're in a good mood... things taste better. Beyond that, and probably more importantly, is that as the restaurant gets to know you, YOU get to know THEM. Maybe GR@TL doesn't deserve two anymore, or even one. But every time you go you get your favorite waiter, Kevin, and he's so nice, and the somm is so great and informative and friendly and always takes extra time with you and... well, you know full well that a downgrade will affect these people's jobs. Which can make it very hard to do. Were a place ont he level of Daniel, JG, or Le Bern downgraded, for whatever reason, it probably wouldn't affect their business much - for a place like GR or Gilt that doesn't have that kind of history, and even quite a bit of bad press along the way, it could be the beginning of the Deathwatch.

                                                  I'm glad that Bibendum has, over the last few years, finally taken the criticism to heart and has been paying more attention to Indian and non-Japanese Asian cuisines. Their choices are a bit odd, to say the least - I know Hakkassan has a couple of supporters (though not many) on the boards here, but given the nearly unanimous critical drubbing they took, I was kind of surprised to see them make the list. Also color me surprised at Cafe China and Lan Sheng. I mean, if Oriental Garden (which is more expensive than either of those) is a Bib Gourmand, I don't quite get why they wouldn't be as well...

                                                  The continued bizarre non-presence of Babbo seems to be, at this point, almost out of spite more than anything else. That said, their Italian choices in general are kind of strange. Nothing wrong with A Voce - they're a perfectly fine restaurant - but Lincoln not being on the list at all? Scarpetta should probably have one - though now that it's becoming a chain, that might be a bit off-putting. I wonder as well if there's an unconscious bias against TV chefs... noting Forgione's sad drop off the list, now that he's an IC and regularly appearing on FN's talking head shows.

                                                  But it's all personal opinion, of course...

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                                                    deepfry7 RE: sgordon Oct 3, 2012 08:27 AM

                                                    And I believe Craft hasn't had a star since 2007. Platt has it #5 in his top 101 restaurants (list came out Christmas 2011), and was still #5 back in 2006. It also maintained its 3 star from NYT in fall 2011.

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                                                      sgordon RE: deepfry7 Oct 3, 2012 08:39 AM

                                                      Maybe the TV Chef bias really does exist... had forgotten about Craft. But it makes sense.

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                                                        Riverman500 RE: sgordon Oct 3, 2012 09:04 AM

                                                        I don't think it's that clear cut. Eric Ripert has his own TV show and Del Posto is owned by Mario Batali and Lidia Bastianich who are also TV chefs.

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                                                          sgordon RE: Riverman500 Oct 3, 2012 10:21 AM

                                                          I actually meant to say "non-PBS" TV Chefs... or more specifically, FN / CC / Bravolebrity chefs. JG has a show, too, on Public TV, though it's mostly his wife's.

                                                          There will always be exceptions, obviously. Ripert and JG had earned their triples before they ever ahad their own shows. And I think Del Posto is thought of as Mark Ladner's restaurant more than Batali's at this point - it's notable that Babbo, the restaurant most people associate with Batali, the one which made him famous and is still his real baby, is the one left off the list. Like I said, that one might be more out of spite and/or refusing to acknowledge a mistake.

                                                          That aside... while no one's going to argue that Bobby Flay deserve a star or anything, when you look at those who might be in contention - Conant, Colicchio, etc - they seem to get dissed.

                                                    2. re: sgordon
                                                      MrGrumpy RE: sgordon Oct 3, 2012 08:31 AM

                                                      I'm astonished that Picholine retained its star even though it's been closed for months with no plans to reopen anytime soon.

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                                                      Ricky RE: Scott_C Oct 3, 2012 01:25 PM

                                                      My head scratchers:

                                                      Tamarind Tribecca
                                                      Danny Brown
                                                      Lan Sheng
                                                      Casa Mono

                                                      Congrats to Jungsik and 15 East

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                                                      1. re: Ricky
                                                        andrew_eats RE: Ricky Oct 3, 2012 03:42 PM

                                                        Soto is fantastic. He puts a lot of detail into his food. Perhaps you went on a bad night?

                                                      2. shekamoo RE: Scott_C Oct 3, 2012 02:04 PM

                                                        I wonder, why 15 East, Azabu and Gari, and not Kuruma?

                                                        1. huiray RE: Scott_C Oct 3, 2012 10:01 PM


                                                          Comments about the 2013 NYC rankings included. :-)

                                                          See also: http://eater.com/archives/2012/10/03/...

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                                                            BrickPM RE: Scott_C Oct 5, 2012 11:38 AM

                                                            not a fan either, but nobody in this thread has spelled Gordon's last name correctly!

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