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What cookbooks have you bought recently, or are you lusting after? October 2012 edition [OLD]

buttertart Sep 30, 2012 05:45 PM

So, having become the proud mommy to 5 new books in a week, and finding that the Jaffrey I ordered from the UK had been issued here as From Curries to Kebabs in 2003 and I've had it ever since (curses), I am inundated. Happily so. How about you? What have you lashed out for or are you planning to lash out for?

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    Quintious RE: buttertart Sep 30, 2012 06:54 PM

    I was at Costco yesterday, and Molly Moon (of Molly Moon's ice cream) was there doing a book signing for her new book "Molly Moon's Homemade Ice Cream". For those unaware, Molly Moon's is a Seattle icon - the line to obtain her tasty frozen treats will literally stretch 2-3 blocks outside of the main location on a sunny day.

    For $13.50, I considered it a great impulse buy. Of course, this means I'm going to have to hunt on Amazon for an ice cream maker with a built in compressor, as I refuse to ever use those "freeze a bowl for 24 hours" machines again....which I'm sure will run me another 300 bucks by the time it's all said and done, but whatever - if it means no more standing in line to get the strawberry balsamic ice cream or the Starburst flavour or the Thin Mint Minty cherry, then it's a bargain at twice the price.

    1. herby RE: buttertart Sep 30, 2012 09:13 PM

      Good to know that you true to your promise, BT:) I have a few books coming to me and will report once I am united with them.

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        germanpotatosoup RE: buttertart Sep 30, 2012 11:19 PM

        Really into asian food right now. I just bought "Thai Food" by David Thompson and Memories of Philippine Kitchens today....Asian Dumplings by Andrea Nguyen and Vietnamese Home Cooking by Charles Phan 2 days ago. Planning to buy Aquavit by Marcus Samuelsson and Bouchon Bakery by Thomas Keller (im holding off on pre-ordering since im hoping thomas keller will fly to nyc to do a signing but they usually require you to buy the book at the event. Unfortunately i'll probably lose the $30 preorder price) I also want Plenty: Vibrant Recipes from London's Ottolenghi, Authentic Mexican by Rick Bayless, and The Real Taste of Jamaica by Enid Donalson. My mom just gave me several Barnes and Noble cards just today and im going on a cookbook shopping spree. :D

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          flourgirl RE: germanpotatosoup Oct 1, 2012 06:05 AM

          They actually had the new Keller book at a preorder price of $25 when I ordered it, couldn't resist it at that price. Now I just can't wait until it gets here!

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            foodie_guru RE: germanpotatosoup Oct 1, 2012 07:51 AM

            I had originally made mention of this on the previous Fall Cookbook thread re: Bouchon Bakery. I am attending, but he is in Toronto on Oct. 30, for a book signing, interview, Q&A for the new Bouchon Bakery book. The cost is $70 which includes the book. Can't wait. And for you TORONTO Ottolenghi fans and Smitten Kitchen, each of them are making the rounds too. You can find all the info here http://www.cook-book.com/

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              germanpotatosoup RE: foodie_guru Oct 2, 2012 07:58 AM


              So I am guessing he isn't having a book tour and wont be traveling extensively for a signing Thats a disappointing. I was hoping he would stop by nyc since he has restaurants here. Guess I should buy the book now before the price goes up.

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                germanpotatosoup RE: foodie_guru Oct 2, 2012 08:09 AM

                NEVERMIND. I just did a google search. Its been updated that he will be in NYC on October 23 at Williams-Sonoma at the Columbus Circle location. :DDDD
                Time to make a preorder to secure my spot.


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                  Berheenia RE: germanpotatosoup Oct 2, 2012 10:46 AM

                  I get a lot of good recipes from the WS site. Mom's pot roast for one.

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                  rstuart RE: foodie_guru Oct 2, 2012 05:20 PM

                  I'll be at Smitten Kitchen too.. hoping to get her to sign a book, just in time for my lovely mother's birthday...

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                Westy RE: buttertart Oct 2, 2012 06:03 AM

                I just picked up John Torode's "Beef" on sale for $8. He was one of the judges on "Masterchef" in England. I ahven't made anything out of it yet, but it seems pretty good.

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                  Harters RE: Westy Oct 2, 2012 07:01 AM

                  I was given this as a free gift with something else I'd bought. Never cooked anything from it and it quickly found it's way to the charity shop. He may judge "Masterchef",here, but he ain't one himself. IMO, of course.

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                    Westy RE: Harters Oct 2, 2012 12:58 PM

                    Interesting. the first thing I noticed was that, while reviewing cattle breeds, he left off Scottish highland (a relative of mine used to raise them - wonderful, but very lean meat) , but included a number of breeds that are primarily dairy.

                2. jpr54_1 RE: buttertart Oct 2, 2012 08:13 AM

                  I just purchased
                  Mexican One Plate at a Time
                  Rick and Lanie's Excellent kitchen Adventures

                  I didn't have any Mexican Cookbooks-and thought these might be a good introduction

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                    Westy RE: jpr54_1 Oct 2, 2012 12:59 PM

                    Rick and Lanie is pretty global in scope.

                    I like Rick's books in general, and have a good time with his one Plate at a Time.

                  2. Berheenia RE: buttertart Oct 2, 2012 10:45 AM

                    I have my eye on Bistro Cooking at Home by Gordon Hamersley but am holding out for a signed copy or two - one for me, one for a gift.

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                      Quintious RE: Berheenia Oct 2, 2012 01:13 PM

                      Oh wow, he has a book coming out? I used to love Hamersley's Bistro when I lived in Boston for uni.

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                        Berheenia RE: Quintious Oct 2, 2012 01:34 PM

                        Better yet they have signed copies for sale at the restaurant! I just emailed them and they said to stop by any day after 2 and they could help me with that. Good news for the Boston Fans.

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                          honkman RE: Quintious Oct 2, 2012 10:07 PM

                          The book was published in 2003

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                            Westy RE: honkman Oct 3, 2012 07:34 AM

                            GREAT cookbook. The roast chicken is a genuine standard. I like it mroe than the Zuni Kitchen version.

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                              LulusMom RE: Westy Oct 5, 2012 10:07 AM

                              Holy cow. I have the book and have never made the roast chicken. Going immediately onto my "must make" list. Thanks Westy.

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                                Westy RE: LulusMom Oct 8, 2012 06:24 AM

                                I made the walkaway chicken last night. Very nice. The one on the following page is one of his restaurant's signature dishes.

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                                  roxlet RE: Westy Oct 8, 2012 05:07 PM

                                  What goes into it, Westy? What makes it special?

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                                    Gio RE: roxlet Oct 10, 2012 06:55 AM

                                    Here's the recipe on line...

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                              Berheenia RE: honkman Oct 3, 2012 08:39 AM

                              Why did I think this was a new book? Perhaps because it was nominated for cookbook of the month for October. Glad I didn't buy it as a gift for someone who prpbably already has it if it's 10 years old.

                        2. DiningDiva RE: buttertart Oct 2, 2012 11:02 PM

                          Holy moly. . .I just received Gran Cocina Latina in the mail today. ALL 920 pages of it. Somrwhat intimidating, I have no idea where to even begin.

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                            roxlet RE: DiningDiva Oct 3, 2012 04:06 AM

                            When you do begin, could you report back on it. This is a serious hole in my cookbook collection, but I'm not even sure how these flavors and tastes will appeal. I'd love to know more!

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                              emily RE: roxlet Oct 3, 2012 09:07 AM

                              I received Gran Cocina Latina a few days ago. I've only skimmed through it, but I'm a bit on the fence. A lot of interesting recipes, many more that I'm not interested in, with a lot that's missing (in my opinion). The latter is probably par for the course with a book like this that covers such a large region.

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                                roxlet RE: emily Oct 3, 2012 09:29 AM

                                Ohhhhhhhh. I just ordered it!

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                                  MelMM RE: emily Oct 3, 2012 11:18 AM

                                  I also just received this a few days ago. The scope is grand, that's for sure. The book is large, packed with text, not just recipes, but a lot of discussion of ingredients, techniques, and, for lack of a better word, lore. Photos are concentrated in four, eight-page clusters. If you are the type who needs a photo for every recipe, this is not your book. I haven't read very much so far, but it looks interesting. Obviously one cannot go in depth on so many countries in one book, even one this large. But it does look like there is a lot of thought and scholarship put into this book. Recipes that I've looked at give some background info, have authentic ingredients followed by reasonable substitutions. I like having that choice.

                                  I haven't made anything yet, but so far, I feel pretty positive about this book.

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                                    DiningDiva RE: MelMM Oct 3, 2012 11:59 AM

                                    I've met the author several times and she is a fairly serious academic, tho' I sometimes think she needs a lot of editing :-). Her enthusiasm is unparalleled

                                    I have no doubt that the recipes will be mostly pretty solid. The ones I've read through so far appear to be pretty straightforward with directions that seem to be well written and easy enough to follow. I was delighted to see so many recipes from countries that don't get a lot of attention in the current Latin phase.

                                    Here's hoping I don't have a lot of problem sourcing the South American ingredients.

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                                      bg90027 RE: MelMM Oct 3, 2012 12:11 PM

                                      I noted the lack of pictures too. It's enormous and I'm sure will be a tremendous resource but the dense format does make it harder to digest. Not sure when I'm going to get around to trying to actually cook from it.

                                      As far as the new cookbook lusting goes, I'm trying to refrain from buying anything new until I cook from a few that I've never cooked from but I'm expecting that my next purchases will be:

                                      Thai Food - David Thompson
                                      French Feasts - Stephane Reynaud
                                      The Brazilian Kitchen - Leticia Moreinos Schwartz

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                                        MelMM RE: bg90027 Oct 3, 2012 12:17 PM

                                        Re: French Feasts... be prepared for a lousy index, itsy bitsy type, and very vaguely written recipes.

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                                          buttertart RE: MelMM Oct 3, 2012 02:59 PM

                                          I didn't like French Feasts at all. Vanity book, it seems to me.

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                                            bg90027 RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 03:15 PM

                                            I may have to reconsider that one. The reviews I'd seen were pretty positive.

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                                              MelMM RE: bg90027 Oct 3, 2012 03:39 PM

                                              To me, it's not that the food is bad, but the recipes are not well written. Plus the design of the book makes it very hard to use. Oddly enough, if you read the Amazon reviews, you'll see a bunch of people claiming to be designers saying how wonderful the book is. But if you are over 40 and actually want to cook from it, not so much.

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                                                buttertart RE: MelMM Oct 3, 2012 04:30 PM

                                                I was so turned off by the tone that I never cooked anything from it.

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                                                  bg90027 RE: MelMM Oct 4, 2012 11:04 AM

                                                  I did read some of the Amazon reviews. It is interesting how they arrange them so the positive reviews appear first. I guess it makes sense since they are trying to sell product. I looked at the sample pages and I don't think the format/design would bother me. If the recipes are extremely vague though that is more problematic.

                                                  I had noticed the book on Ludo Lefebrve's home kitchen in an article someone did on him and thought any French cookbook that he would own was worth looking into more and then found positive reviews on EYB and Amazon. I still might end up buying it at some point but I'm going to push it down the list a bit and cook some more from the French books I already own and think about whether I really need another one.

                                                  Thanks for both of your feedback.

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                                                    MelMM RE: bg90027 Oct 4, 2012 02:47 PM

                                                    To me the fonts, index and other design issues were more of a problem than the vague recipes. I'm a pretty experienced cook, so I can fill in the blanks, even if I might find it annoying. But I really like to be able to flip through a book and browse for recipes. The fonts used for the recipe titles made this really hard... titles were in French and English, one in cursive and one in all caps, neither very large, and neither of those choices are easy to read. So in browsing mode, the recipe titles didn't jump out at me. I had to work to read the titles and recipes, and that made the whole thing less appealing. And then if I wanted to look up a recipe by ingredient, I found the index left much to be desired.

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                                                      bg90027 RE: MelMM Oct 4, 2012 05:06 PM

                                                      I looked at the sample pages on Amazon and the layout with multiple recipes on a page and the small recipe titles didn't bother me at all. It's harder to tell about the indexing but its indexed on EYB and I'm looking for a recipe by ingredient that's going to be my starting point anyway. I could probably fill in the blanks too while cooking and if I couldn't off the top of my head, I could always cross reference a recipe with a similar one from a book that's less vague. So like I said, I still may end up buying it eventually but I'll take yours and buttertart's advice and not make it such a priority.

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                                    dkennedy RE: DiningDiva Nov 10, 2012 03:03 PM

                                    So Gran Cocina Latina is available at TGC this weekend as part of their bundle sale. For those of you that have it on your shelves, (now for over a month) I'd love to hear your thoughts. Do you for see it as worthy of a COTM nomination?

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                                      The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Nov 10, 2012 03:13 PM

                                      I couldn't resist ($10!) and bought a copy...


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                                        JoanN RE: dkennedy Nov 10, 2012 03:19 PM

                                        Absolutely, positively, no question about it. It's not if, it's when.

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                                          Allegra_K RE: dkennedy Nov 10, 2012 03:21 PM

                                          What JoanN said. Yes, buy it now ($10?! Wow!), you won't ever regret it! If it weren't so very new, I would already have nominated it, and you bet I'll be pushing for it soon enough!

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                                            dkennedy RE: Allegra_K Nov 10, 2012 04:14 PM

                                            Glad I asked. I am buying two copies, one for me, one for my sister. Maybe I can get her to participate if it does in fact become COTM in the future. Thx!

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                                        nadiam1000 RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 02:28 AM

                                        I am waiting on Bouchon Bakery and the Dahlia Bakery cookbooks from TGC. Recent purchases include Baked Elements, You Be Sweet, and Skinny Sweets from TGC. I am looking forward to the release of More from Macrina Bakery(love the first one and the bakery is fantastic) Most of my purchases lean towards baking and pastry books although not exclusively. I will probably pick up Smitten Kitchen as well - this is me cutting back on cookbook purchases....fall is the worst with all the new releases!

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                                          Quintious RE: nadiam1000 Oct 3, 2012 08:07 AM

                                          Have I just found a fellow Seattlite? Most people don't know about the Dahlia/Macrina cookbooks coming out.

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                                            flourgirl RE: Quintious Oct 3, 2012 08:16 AM

                                            I live in Nj, have never been to Seattle in my life and I knew about both of those books a long time ago. Anyone who buys similar books on Amazon would eventually get these books "recommended" to them on the website and/or through Amazon e-mail notifications. Amazon is VERY efficient at luring customers into making new purchases.

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                                              emily RE: Quintious Oct 3, 2012 09:10 AM

                                              I can't wait for the Dahlia book, though I'm not a Seattlite. Loved the chocolate pecan cookie, breakfast sandwich and the doughnuts with mascarpone when I was there. I have the first Macrina and will wait until I can see the book in person to buy the second one.

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                                                Quintious RE: emily Oct 3, 2012 10:31 AM

                                                Next time you're here, get the triple coconute creme pie. It's....a life-altering transcendent experience.

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                                                nadiam1000 RE: Quintious Oct 5, 2012 01:53 AM

                                                Quintious, not a Seattlite(unfortunately, currently live in Pittsburgh) However, visited several years ago and fell in love with the city. Which, for me was mostly about the food! We ate at Dahlia Lounge and Macrina Bakery among other places, love Beecher Cheese(they are open in NYC now) Moving to the west coast next year which at least will bring me closer to Seattle so I hope to visit again soon.

                                            2. greedygirl RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 02:28 AM

                                              I just caved in and bought Jamie Oliver's 15-minute Meals. Also Kitchin Summers by Tom Kitchin and a little book about tacos, burritos and quesadillas to make up free shipping from The Book People. I have bought too many books in the past few weeks (Jerusalem, Neil Perry's The Food I Love, 660 Curries) - need to stop!

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                                                flourgirl RE: greedygirl Oct 3, 2012 07:41 AM

                                                I know, same here, I bought an avalanche of new books recently and I have just got to stop. I not only have to do some serious culling to make room for the new books, which is going to be extremely difficult for me to do, but I just can't spend any more money. I know I'm probably going to cave eventually and buy Gran Cucina Latina, but I have so many unread/unused books right now that I just can't justify buying any more.

                                              2. roxlet RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 04:10 AM

                                                There are so many new cookbooks that I want that I am going to have to do some serious culling. Jerusalem, for sure. Every Grain of Rice, The Bouchon Bakery Book, and maybe La Gran Cocina, which sounds like it would take up some serious real estate! And then there are the ones that haven't crossed my radar and I'm sure to hear about on this board and have to have. Oy! This is a sickness.

                                                1. Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 05:12 AM

                                                  I am interested in purchasing THE MILE END COOKBOOK which has been reviewed today in the Montreal Gazette and previously in the Globe and Mail link below:

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                                                    pikawicca RE: Ruthie789 Oct 3, 2012 09:37 AM

                                                    "The New Middle Eastern Vegetarian, modern recipes from veggiestan" Looks great. Looks great, but probably won't have time to cook from it until after the election. We'll be eating out a lot, I'm afraid.)

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                                                      nadiam1000 RE: Ruthie789 Oct 5, 2012 02:02 AM

                                                      Ruthie, as a former Montrealer, and lover of smoked meat, I am very interested in this cookbook. Thanks for the link to the review.

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                                                        Ruthie789 RE: nadiam1000 Oct 5, 2012 05:34 AM

                                                        WE Montrealers love our smoked meat and bagels. You are welcome.

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                                                      Harters RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 09:33 AM

                                                      I'm starting to lust after Madhur Jaffrey's new book - Curry Nation. Due for publication 11/10.

                                                      And the Prashad cookbook - from my favourite vegetarian Indian restaurant.

                                                      I think I'll write to Father Christmas and ask for them. I have been a good boy this year so I should be OK for presents at festivetide.

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                                                        greedygirl RE: Harters Oct 3, 2012 09:42 AM

                                                        I have to say the present COTM, 660 Curries, is giving me better results than Jaffrey so far.

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                                                        angelsmom RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 10:43 AM

                                                        After reading the article and watching the video at The New York Times, I caved and preordered The Tucci Cookbook!

                                                        1. BananaBirkLarsen RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 12:19 PM

                                                          Did some thrift storing yesterday and came home with four new cookbooks ranging in price from $0.25-$1.00. the Silver Palate Good Times Cookbook (an old favourite from my childhood!), Chef Paul Prudhomme's Louisianna Kitchen, The Cuisine of Hungary by George Lang and Indian Cookery by E.P. Veerasawmy. Not bad for a total of $2.50!

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                                                            MmmDatGood RE: BananaBirkLarsen Oct 10, 2012 01:42 PM

                                                            That's the way to do it! Lots of really fantastic books at these thrift stores for just pennies. (Saving you money for the ingredients for the recipes.)

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                                                            MelMM RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 12:35 PM

                                                            Luke Nguyen's book Indochine arrived a few days ago.

                                                            Like his previous books, and others from this publisher, it is stunning. Thick paper, beautiful photos. This book explores the French influence on Vietnamese food. Like his last book, it is part travelogue, part cookbook. The recipes come from home cooks and restaurants, and while some are familiar Vietnamese foods, others are strikingly French, but always with a twist. Rabbit in red wine, for example, calls for a rabbit, carrots, thyme, bay leaves, wine (of course)... but then you also have fish sauce and star anise in there. The more I look through this book, the more interesting it seems. It definitely offers a different perspective from my other Vietnamese cookbooks.

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                                                              TxnInMtl RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 03:23 PM

                                                              As housewarming presents to myself, I picked up PLANET BARBECUE! and THE SF FERRY PLAZA FARMERS' MARKET COOKBOOK. I'm especially excited for the barbecue one (although my dad would probably argue that a lot of the recipes are for grilling) after seeing all of the COTM reports. Finally having a grill again seemed like the perfect excuse to pick that one up.

                                                              My list of wanted cookbooks is still quite long right now, but I'm trying to resist the temptations to continue to add to my collection. I may cave on Jerusalem, Burma, and Purple Citrus and Sweet Perfume though. I'm also still intrigued by the descriptions in the last thread of Big Small Plates.

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                                                                buttertart RE: TxnInMtl Oct 3, 2012 04:35 PM

                                                                Have a look at Purple Citrus before you buy it, I wasn't enthralled,

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                                                                  TxnInMtl RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 07:09 PM

                                                                  Thanks for the warning (and Quintious) about Purple Citrus! I'll be sure to have a careful look.

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                                                                    pikawicca RE: buttertart Oct 5, 2012 03:32 PM

                                                                    Really? I've cooked from this book quite a bit this summer, and really like it. The tomato and pomegranate salad, beet and zucchini tzatsiki are faves, and the Kadirga Pilaf with Pistachios, Almonds and Currants Topped with Bechamel was a dinner party hit out of the park.

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                                                                      roxlet RE: pikawicca Oct 5, 2012 04:29 PM

                                                                      That's so interesting. I think you're the first person I've heard who has praised this book! Glad you found things you liked.

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                                                                        Madrid RE: pikawicca Oct 8, 2012 05:00 PM

                                                                        oh wow, I love Purple citrus. I loved the lamb/yogurt turnovers and the salad of avocado, grapefruit, pomegranates....the yogurt/goat cheese rolled in three different versions...I've made other dishes I can't remember off the top of my head and have many more "bookmarked" to make.

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                                                                          pikawicca RE: Madrid Oct 8, 2012 05:05 PM

                                                                          Thank God I've got a fellow traveler. This is a very interesting and different cookbook.

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                                                                            Madrid RE: pikawicca Oct 8, 2012 05:07 PM

                                                                            every few weeks I go back and look at it and I am amazed. great bed time reading....there are very few recipes in the book I do not want to try and wish I had time, money, and guests to eat them!

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                                                                      Quintious RE: TxnInMtl Oct 3, 2012 05:36 PM

                                                                      It's likely too late, but I'd return Planet Barbecue if I were you. Highly overrated book. Smoke & Spice or The Complete Licence to Grill or Rob Rainford's Born to Grill are all much better choices.

                                                                      Jerusalem keeps calling me. I'm growing weak. Hope I can resist..

                                                                      I'll plus 1 TxnInMtl's statementa bout Purple Citrus.

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                                                                        buttertart RE: Quintious Oct 4, 2012 10:08 AM

                                                                        Jerusalem is a wonderful book focused on the city. I love it. Nice cover, too, even though not squeezy like Plenty.

                                                                      2. re: TxnInMtl
                                                                        Bean Counter RE: TxnInMtl Oct 4, 2012 08:49 PM

                                                                        I really lIke the sf fm book - gets pulled down often for inspiration although I've only made a few recipes - the chile relleno casserole( a variation of the chile rellenos) was really good. In fact I've tweaked it with a meat layer and love it! Please let us know what you find. :) I've been meaning to try the cippollini, braised broccoli, cauliflower pasta recipes.

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                                                                          The Dairy Queen RE: Bean Counter Oct 5, 2012 06:43 AM

                                                                          ooohh! I have SFFPFMC, but haven't tried the chile relleno casserole. Thanks for the tip!


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                                                                            TxnInMtl RE: Bean Counter Oct 5, 2012 10:43 AM

                                                                            I love chile rellenos but hadn't noticed that recipe yet. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

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                                                                              Bean Counter RE: TxnInMtl Oct 10, 2012 11:42 AM

                                                                              BTW - I think the actual recipe calls for dipping the peppers individually in the batter but then I think she gives an even lazier version - spreading some of the batter on the bottom of the pan, layering cheese & peppers and topping with batter. I use that method :) lately I've been using a mix of pasillas and Anaheims for the peppers and sliced cojack for the cheese. Easy and delish IMO.

                                                                        2. DiningDiva RE: buttertart Oct 3, 2012 06:41 PM

                                                                          Arrived in the mail today...Mrs. Rowe's Little Book of Southern Pies

                                                                          Not sure it's really worth it, but pie is pie and I'll bet there's at least 1 or 2 good recipes in it.

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                                                                          1. re: DiningDiva
                                                                            buttertart RE: DiningDiva Oct 4, 2012 10:09 AM

                                                                            But of course.

                                                                          2. flourgirl RE: buttertart Oct 4, 2012 11:29 AM

                                                                            I just received Vietnamese Home Cooking and Southern Comfort by Allison and Slade Rushing. They both look wonderful.

                                                                            I am such a sucker for cookbooks on southern food, I have no idea why really, except that I've always felt a strong connection to and fascination with a culture I didn't grow up in. This one looks particularly well done. I've only thumbed through it, so this is just from a quick initial impression. But just flipping through, I already saw a whole bunch of recipes that I can't wait to try, which is always a good sign.

                                                                            1. Jimonthebeach RE: buttertart Oct 4, 2012 05:35 PM

                                                                              Modernist Cuisine At Home Cookbook

                                                                              1. Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Oct 4, 2012 06:52 PM

                                                                                I am going out tomorrow to buy Chloe's Kitchen. All vegan inspired cooking..
                                                                                Just saw the cooking segment on her on Stephen and Chris.

                                                                                1. LulusMom RE: buttertart Oct 5, 2012 01:16 PM

                                                                                  Weirdly, Amazon is showing the JO 15 minutes book as having had a Sept. 27 (I believe) release date, but also says "available from these sellers." What on earth does that mean? That it was released on that date in the UK? All seems very amorphous to me.

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                                                                                  1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                    MelMM RE: LulusMom Oct 5, 2012 01:27 PM

                                                                                    Yeah, that's the UK edition, being sold by vendors who ship from the UK. I ordered it last week... not sure why, as I am not a huge fan, but I found the reviews intriguing.

                                                                                    1. re: MelMM
                                                                                      LulusMom RE: MelMM Oct 5, 2012 01:28 PM

                                                                                      wonder why they'd put the UK release date on the US site? Just seems weird to me. I am a big fan and really want to buy this, but I want the US edition.

                                                                                      1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                        MelMM RE: LulusMom Oct 5, 2012 02:05 PM

                                                                                        They do this for most books. Usually when they have the US edition, it will show up first in the results, be eligible for Prime, and be cheaper. I think the UK edition shows up because these businesses that ship from the UK list the UK edition by the ISBN.

                                                                                        I prefer to get the UK edition if the book was originally published in the UK.

                                                                                        1. re: MelMM
                                                                                          The Dairy Queen RE: MelMM Oct 6, 2012 01:17 AM

                                                                                          Normally MelMM I agree with you about getting the UK Edition of a UK author, except for this 15 minute book I figure converting all of the measures and terms from Brit to SAE might eat into my 15 minutes. I really can't wait for someone to get their hands on this book and report back. I bought it on Amazon and got cold feet and canceled when I read a couple of reviews and got a delayed shipping notification...


                                                                                          1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                            greedygirl RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 6, 2012 02:13 AM

                                                                                            I'm away for work at the moment but will be delving into this book next week. Will report back. When's it out in the US?

                                                                                            1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                              LulusMom RE: greedygirl Oct 6, 2012 02:31 AM

                                                                                              Still no word as far as I can tell. Frustrating. I'm standing around, arms crossed, tapping my foot (and it's starting to get a cramp).

                                                                                              1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: greedygirl Oct 6, 2012 03:44 AM

                                                                                                Thank you! I can't wait to hear all about it!


                                                                                              2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                germanpotatosoup RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 6, 2012 06:50 AM

                                                                                                Any particular reason why the UK edition may be better? I've been looking to get Plenty: Vibrant Recipes from London's Ottolenghi as well as Jerusalem. I have a scale, so measurements wont be an issue. Only thing would probably be the temperature but that doesn't bother me much. Both the UK and U.S. publications are different in appearance and im not sure to what degree the content would differ (is it beyond spelling changes and conversions or are there other changes in writing and pictures). I love that the restaurant is selling signed UK copies but are there other advantages? I was going to buy the U.S. Jerusalem copy at an author signing event but if the UK version is better, I may just buy both direct from the restaurant. I would have to check if by signed, they are referring to a signed bookplate though.

                                                                                                1. re: germanpotatosoup
                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: germanpotatosoup Oct 6, 2012 06:55 AM

                                                                                                  I just think the book is best when published as the author originally conceived it. And sometimes errors creep into the translations. The River Cafe Italian Easy and Italian Two Easy are a good example of poorly "translated" books.


                                                                                                  1. re: germanpotatosoup
                                                                                                    Caitlin McGrath RE: germanpotatosoup Oct 6, 2012 03:11 PM

                                                                                                    germanpotatosoup, I have the UK edition of Plenty, and I bought the US edition for someone as a gift. They have different covers, and the US edition uses American English terms for ingredients, Fahrenheit, volume measurements, and ounces, etc. instead of metric. The page layouts, illustrations and photos, and text other than the changes noted in the previous sentence, are identical in both UK and US editions. In other words, the content has not been changed - and the person I gave the US edition to has not had any issues cooking from it.

                                                                                                    I've compared the Amazon Look Inside features for the two editions of Jerusalem and the same seems to be true for that book, as well. If it weren't, I would've sprung for the UK edition, for sure.

                                                                                                    1. re: Caitlin McGrath
                                                                                                      germanpotatosoup RE: Caitlin McGrath Oct 7, 2012 05:08 AM

                                                                                                      Thanks for the info. Though after looking up Yotam's autograph, Im beginning to wonder if £35 shipping for 2 books is worth it (Im actually buying it just for the autograph). Im sorry...his autograph just looks blah compared to the beautiful penmanship of thomas keller. tbh...It just looks like he made some random markings so that he could sign more books faster.

                                                                                                      Thomas Keller

                                                                                                      Yotam Ottolenghi

                                                                                                      1. re: germanpotatosoup
                                                                                                        buttertart RE: germanpotatosoup Oct 8, 2012 09:09 AM

                                                                                                        Keller's is beautifully controlled, the Ottolenghi guys' more flamboyant...and I don't know, but is one in Hebrew and one in Arabic? Writing fits the cooking in each case.

                                                                                                        1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                          germanpotatosoup RE: buttertart Oct 9, 2012 04:54 PM

                                                                                                          wow...that never crossed my mind. Though I do wish that they kept the same cover for the US version. Yotam responded to an American reviewer and said that the reason for this was that marketing studies show that Americans like pictures on the front of their books. Thanks for the insight on the signatures. It does look like they are using different characters. Im just going to swallow the losses and pay the shipping but I'll get the Ottolenghi Cookbook while im at it rather than wait for it to be released next year.

                                                                                            2. re: MelMM
                                                                                              LulusMom RE: MelMM Oct 9, 2012 01:28 PM

                                                                                              OK, so I went on amazon looking at other books and they suggested Jerusalem for me. Yep, I'm interested. They give the US publication date (even though it is already out in the UK). So I decided to check the JO 15 minutes book again and see if they had updated it to include a US publication date. Nope, still saying that it was published Sept. 27th. I have this sinking feeling that this means there is no US publication set.

                                                                                            3. re: LulusMom
                                                                                              The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 10:08 AM

                                                                                              For those of you who are interested in more info about 15 Minute Meals, there are now about 20 reviews up on Amazon UK, including one that lists every single recipe in the book (yum, yum, yum, yum!). I see that there is "15 Minute Meals" TV show on the horizon (channel 4) in the UK (will there be an international player for that one, I wonder???). I wonder if that's slowing down the U.S. release of the book?

                                                                                              The overall consensus is that the recipes are great, but that they take more than 15 minutes, though seldom more than 1/2 hour. One person said the longest recipe took them 40 minutes. Some people have mentioned that the cooking time for one chicken recipe yielded chicken that was not fully cooked, so, beware of those kinds of things.

                                                                                              One factoid that comes out in the reviews is that Jamie actually states in the intro to the book that the 15 minutes cooking time assumes you've prepped all of the ingredients and have them laid out and arranged in a specific way, have your food processor at the ready, water boiling etc. I suspect that's where people are coming up with the time differences.

                                                                                              Prep time vs. cook time...

                                                                                              Also, for those of you familiar with 30 Minute Meals/Meals in Minutes, the meals no longer include a pudding (fine with me.)

                                                                                              I see this book is showing as "index soon" on EYB. Woohoo!

                                                                                              My favorite reviewers are the ones who end with: "I'm looking forward to Jamie's 7 1/2 Minute Meals." HAHAHA!


                                                                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 10, 2012 11:05 AM

                                                                                                Thanks so much for the info (and the laugh) TDQ. I think we'd all be thrilled to have a sous chef around the house for those pesky prep jobs. 15 minutes? No problem!

                                                                                                1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 12:17 PM

                                                                                                  I have the feeling that the U.S. edition of 15 Minute Meals is about a year away, if it follows the pattern of publication of 30 Minutes Meals, 30MM was published in the U.K. 9/30/10 by Michael Joseph, who is also the publisher of 15MM's. 30MM was published a year later in the U.S. by Hyperion as Meals in Minutes. (I wonder what they'll call 15MM's? Meals in Fewer Minutes?) I don't see it on Hyperion's website at all, though I do see his new "UK" book...

                                                                                                  I've sent a query to JO's folks via the "contact us" form on his website asking what their plans are for a U.S. release. I'm not sure I can wait if it's going to be a year...


                                                                                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 10, 2012 01:45 PM

                                                                                                    Thank you so much for all this research you're doing. I feel guilty - I should probably be the one doing it, as I am the one losing sleep over it. Have a sick one at home today so no time to send along my list of easy favorites either. Sorry!

                                                                                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 01:51 PM

                                                                                                      Don't feel bad. I've had some extra time today because it's just been a giant time-wasting-waiting-for-other people kind of day today.

                                                                                                      Sorry to hear about Lulu. Soup! Soup! Soup! Then, sleep sleep sleep!

                                                                                                      No worries on the easy favs. They will be helpful whenever you have a chance to get them to me.

                                                                                                      I keep obsessively checking my email to see if the JO folks have replied, but it's kind of silly to think they will be replying to a customer inquiry at this time of the day U.K. time. Still, I'm itching to buy this book --UK version-- now if it's going to be a year's wait. It's not like I don't have plenty to cook from, but I just want something new and inspiring and...well, chowish.


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                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 10, 2012 02:03 PM

                                                                                                        You're so kind and helpful. Lulu wasn't so into the soup idea. And despite having a very sore throat, she won't give up talking. Like asking the wind not to blow. And she wouldnt' sleep either. I finally plunked her in front of the tv with her head in my lap (and a book in my hands) to at least give her a bit of rest.

                                                                                                        I know, I know. I have so many untouched books and yet I'm obsessing about this JO one. For me it isn't worth it to get the UK version because the conversions (as you pointed out) will take away from the time it is supposed to save.

                                                                                                        1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                          beetlebug RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 02:59 PM

                                                                                                          To save time on the conversions, this is what I do. I have a copy of a conversion chart that I cut and pasted from another cookbook (the flap of Hesser's NYTimes Essential Cookbook). When I bought the original Ottolenghi, the conversions were driving me nuts. So, I fiddled with the copy machine and the NY Times book and then taped the sections that I wanted together. After that, I made multiple copies in case I bought more UK books. Since then, I've glued a copy of that conversion chart into the front of my 2 UK books. As I flip through the books, I go to the front to do the conversion and then I write it into the recipe itself. It's more front ended work, but it pays off especially if you see that conversion in another recipe that is next to one that's already completed.

                                                                                                          1. re: beetlebug
                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: beetlebug Oct 10, 2012 04:04 PM

                                                                                                            You know, I've always wanted to do something like that, but I can never remember where a good chart is. Now I know! ENYTC! Thank you!


                                                                                                            1. re: beetlebug
                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: beetlebug Oct 11, 2012 06:40 AM

                                                                                                              Great idea. I don't have NYTEC but I do have a website that converts (I have hated having to run back and forth or sit before hand making notes in my book).

                                                                                                              1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                greedygirl RE: LulusMom Oct 11, 2012 08:50 AM

                                                                                                                I got a handy chart with my copy of All About Braising, for some reason, which I've stuck on the fridge using fridge magnets.

                                                                                                                1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                  geekmom RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 11:45 AM

                                                                                                                  Just wondering about this issue of conversions for non-US cookbooks. I have a kitchen scale that I picked up for $15 and I just use that to measure out my ingredients if I am using a recipe that goes by weight rather than cups and tablespoons and such. The scale converts between metric and US measurements by pressing a button. Can't you just do that too? It seems incredibly tedious to have to write out the conversions before you can start cooking.

                                                                                                                  1. re: geekmom
                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: geekmom Oct 12, 2012 12:17 PM

                                                                                                                    I have a scale too. Sigh. Just cannot get myself to use it. I'm so used to measuring cups, etc. My own darned fault, I totally agree.

                                                                                                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 12:46 PM

                                                                                                                      Oh, I love my scale for this sort of thing. Unfortunately, many recipes still call for teaspoons and cups...


                                                                                                                    2. re: geekmom
                                                                                                                      nomadchowwoman RE: geekmom Oct 12, 2012 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                      I find my scale incredibly useful, esp. for conversions, so I finally broke down and moved things around so I could have it handy and thus actually use it.

                                                                                                                      1. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                                                                        Gio RE: nomadchowwoman Oct 12, 2012 12:50 PM

                                                                                                                        I've taken to leaving my scale right on my prep counter... it's one of the most important kitchen tools I have. Get over your scalophobia, LLM.

                                                                                                                        1. re: Gio
                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen RE: Gio Oct 12, 2012 12:55 PM

                                                                                                                          Gio, you're such a taskmaster. First you want us to be more efficient by writing in our cookbooks and now you want to use our kitchen scales. I wonder what other kitchen efficiencies we should be adopting?


                                                                                                                          1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                            Gio RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 01:38 PM

                                                                                                                            Haha... with a whisk and a rolling pin she shall lead them...

                                                                                                                          2. re: Gio
                                                                                                                            LulusMom RE: Gio Oct 12, 2012 04:30 PM

                                                                                                                            Big ole bossy boots! I won't, I won't! (said, with arms crossed and lower lip sticking out - I learned this directly from a six year old, so i have it down!).

                                                                                                                            1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                              Gio RE: LulusMom Oct 13, 2012 05:09 AM

                                                                                                                              LOL.. the image of Eloise at the Plaza immediately comes to mind. Does Lulu have that book?


                                                                                                                              1. re: Gio
                                                                                                                                LulusMom RE: Gio Oct 13, 2012 05:47 AM

                                                                                                                                Exactly what I was going for!

                                                                                                                    3. re: beetlebug
                                                                                                                      AGM_Cape_Cod RE: beetlebug Oct 13, 2012 09:20 AM

                                                                                                                      When I was in London I bought a set of metric measuring cups and spoons so that I don't have to do conversions.

                                                                                                                      1. re: AGM_Cape_Cod
                                                                                                                        dkennedy RE: AGM_Cape_Cod Oct 13, 2012 09:22 AM

                                                                                                                        Smart. I am stealing this idea.

                                                                                                                        1. re: AGM_Cape_Cod
                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: AGM_Cape_Cod Oct 13, 2012 09:33 AM

                                                                                                                          Great idea. I'll be there again in late Nov., so will try to do so then.

                                                                                                                          1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                            greedygirl RE: LulusMom Oct 13, 2012 09:36 AM

                                                                                                                            Dates needed missy!

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                                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: greedygirl Oct 13, 2012 10:21 AM

                                                                                                                              Soon come, soon come. Waiting on husband to give them, but I think it should be Nov. 23/24. By when do I need to make the RC reservations?

                                                                                                                              and, after all my big talk about not buying any cookbooks for a while, my husband just needed something that he couldnt' find locally, so I suggested amazon, and checked to see if they had it. When he saw the Donna Hay New Food Fast book sitting patiently in my cart he insisted we get that now too. Does it count if he bought it instead of me??

                                                                                                                              1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                                Breadcrumbs RE: LulusMom Oct 13, 2012 01:10 PM

                                                                                                                                I love DH LLM and that's a great book. While I have all her books, I'd highly recommend Off The Shelf too as it's a great source of absolutely amazing meals made essentially from pantry ingredients (and assuming you have some fresh staples in the fridge like lemons and a herb of some sort for example). Of all my books I use my DH cookbooks the most.

                                                                                                                                1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                                                                                  LulusMom RE: Breadcrumbs Oct 13, 2012 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                                  wow, you use those books the most? I knew there were DH fans here, but I wasn't hearing anything back about the dessert book so I thought "have I lost my mind?" I'm so glad you mentioned that you're one. Will put Off the Shelf on my list so that next time LulusDad gets feeling generous it will magically be there.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                                    Breadcrumbs RE: LulusMom Oct 13, 2012 05:27 PM

                                                                                                                                    I do have MC2 as well LLM but I don't make many desserts, relatively speaking. DH also has a kids cookbook as well btw...

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                                                                                                                                      angelsmom RE: LulusMom Oct 13, 2012 06:20 PM

                                                                                                                                      Which Donna shay book is LLM and what is the dessert one. I do have Off The Shelf and love it.

                                                                                                                                  2. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                                    sr44 RE: LulusMom Oct 15, 2012 07:00 PM

                                                                                                                                    No, not at all.

                                                                                                                              2. re: AGM_Cape_Cod
                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: AGM_Cape_Cod Oct 13, 2012 12:24 PM

                                                                                                                                REALLY SMART. I wonder if I can buy them from Amazon UK? You can books that way, why not measuring cups and spoons?


                                                                                                                                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                  Caitlin McGrath RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 13, 2012 01:57 PM

                                                                                                                                  You sure can (buy them from Amazon UK, that is).

                                                                                                                                2. re: AGM_Cape_Cod
                                                                                                                                  greedygirl RE: AGM_Cape_Cod Oct 13, 2012 03:24 PM

                                                                                                                                  Interesting! I only ever use cups for American recipes and I don't think I've even seen metric versions. Otherwise it's the scale all the way. I don't bother using american measuring spoons as the difference is negligible.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                                    lilham RE: greedygirl Oct 14, 2012 01:14 AM

                                                                                                                                    I think I have seen 1 cup of stock kind of thing. A metric cup is 250ml and a metric tsp 5ml, 1 tbsp 15ml. To be honest I always use a metric cup for American recipes! My Pyrex jug has American cup measures. I'm not sure how similar is it to the metric ones. BTW I am lusting after a set of ceramic measuring cups for Xmas. They are really lovely and would look great in the kitchen. Maybe I should add it to my amazon trolley so mr lilham can see it!

                                                                                                                                    1. re: lilham
                                                                                                                                      greedygirl RE: lilham Oct 14, 2012 01:51 AM

                                                                                                                                      I'm confused! How does a metric cup differ from an American cup then? Because I've always worked on the basis that my American cup is 250ml.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                                        herby RE: greedygirl Oct 14, 2012 05:02 AM

                                                                                                                                        American cup is 8oz which is 236.6ml and not 250ml. Insignificant difference imho. You know how some "translated" recipes have 1 cup + 1 tablespoon quantity for an ingredient? That is to equate to metric cup.

                                                                                                                              3. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 04:09 PM

                                                                                                                                i have the feeling it's that (get the UK version) or wait a year... Maybe you just make it a project one evening after Lulu's gone to bed and go through and pencil in the conversions for the recipes you've tagged. I am loathe to write in cookbooks, but that could be one way to go.

                                                                                                                                I sent the boys off to our evening activity by themselves. I'm going to watch a movie and have a nice glass of wine.

                                                                                                                                I hope Lulu feels better soon.

                                                                                                                                I'll let you know if I hear anything from the JO folks re: timing of the U.S. edition. Tomorrow at the earliest I assume... Then we can make an informed decision about whether we want to wait...


                                                                                                                                1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                  lilham RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 01:11 AM

                                                                                                                                  I always write in cookbooks. Conversions, notes on amounts I've adjusted, and things I might do differently next time.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: lilham
                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen RE: lilham Oct 11, 2012 04:12 AM

                                                                                                                                    I just can't bring myself to do it. I'm weird that way. I suppose if I knew for certain I was going to keep a book, but if I think I might give the book away as I often do, I won't write in it. It might have to be something I get over in this particular case... Can't have everything, right?


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                                                                                                                                      herby RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 05:37 AM

                                                                                                                                      I am with you,TDQ, can't write in books, fold corners or in other way alter books.I use sticky notes instead and it works well for me.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: herby
                                                                                                                                        beetlebug RE: herby Oct 11, 2012 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                                        I started with sticky notes. But, sometimes I ran out of space or I can only find those teeny ones lying around. I do love sticky notes.

                                                                                                                                      2. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                        beetlebug RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 05:40 AM

                                                                                                                                        I used to be like that as well. But, I forced myself to write in cookbooks (I started about two years ago) and it's really made things a lot easier. Even a quick note of excellent or just ok next to a dish will help me decide whether or not to repeat it. And sometimes, I'll look at a note and the recipe and still have no memory of it. But, the written in changes, conversions, additions, have been so helpful that I'm now over my phobia of writing in cookbooks.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 06:31 AM

                                                                                                                                          Well, I have emails out to both Jamie Oliver's people (via the contact us form on his website) and Hyperion (who published the U.S. edition of 30 Minute Meals). If it's going to be another year before the U.S. edition of this book is published, or they don't get back to me before I freak out and just order a copy of this book anyway without waiting to find out the U.S. publication date, I might have to tell myself that I need to make an exception and go ahead and write in this book "workbook" style the way Gio does (I love that, Gio!). Maybe, this will help me get over my phobia like it did for beetlebug.

                                                                                                                                          I do end up swapping or giving a lot of my cookbooks away (and I need to do this so I don't feel so guilty about adding to my collection) so I hate to write in them unless I know I'm going to keep them. Funnily enough, I write in all of my Dunlop books. I had to buy those from my library due to water damage (long story). Those books are so damaged that I might as well write in them. Someday I hope to acquire better copies of these books. But, then, I'd lose all my notes!



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                                                                                                                                            herby RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 07:02 AM

                                                                                                                                            Somewhat off the topic

                                                                                                                                            TDQ, do you have Saving Dinner by Leanne Ely? I am at my daughter's and looking for a book came across this one and thought about you. The book is divided into four seasons and each season has eight weeks of recipes, shopping lists, serving suggestions and useful tool bars. Shopping lists are divided into categories: meat, condiments, produce, etc. The intro says that you can complete and print all your shopping lists from their web site - savingdinner.com

                                                                                                                                            1. re: herby
                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen RE: herby Oct 11, 2012 07:08 AM

                                                                                                                                              Very kind of you to think of me. I don't have this book but someone did recommend it in one of my previous threads, so I did look at her website. I thought the recipes sounded kind of blah. Was that too snap of a judgment?

                                                                                                                                              How do they look once you flip through the book?


                                                                                                                                              1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                                herby RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 07:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                I am on my way to my grandson's school to speak about my profession and still need to get all my props in order:) Once I am back, I'll have a look at the book and let you know how the recipes sound to me. The book is very well organized and even have nutritional info since the author is certified nutrition counselor, whatever this means:)

                                                                                                                                                1. re: herby
                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: herby Oct 11, 2012 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Oh how fun! Good luck at your grandson's school. I just flipped through some pages on Amazon and I think the first couple of recipes call for an hour of cooking time each, which is maybe what turned me off... BUt if you think they look pretty solid, maybe these are the kinds of recipes I can cook the night before after the Dairy Prince goes to bed and just re-heat the next day?

                                                                                                                                                  In any case, thank you for thinking of me and my current obsession!


                                                                                                                                                  1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                                                                                                    herby RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 01:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I am back - it was fun; imagine 18 pairs of six year old eyes staring at you:) My grandson was my helper and super proud.

                                                                                                                                                    I quickly looked at the book and my advise is to take it out of the library for a test drive. Her premise seems to be very balanced - every week you have fish and soup once, chicken and beef 3-4 times and 1 meal sometimes is vegetarian or pasta. There is alsways a dish containing beans (canned). I did not noticed an hour long hands-on cooking; prep seems to be simple and if cooking time (hands-off) is too long for you as in roast beef for example, I would do it the day before and gently reheat. Lots of recipes seem to be child friendly and some could be even simplified. The first recipe is Apple Chicken (p.5) and I think it is a bit too involved techniques-wise and the list of ingredients could be shortened. I make very similar dish that kids and grown-ups love but make it differently. I use the whole chicken that I skin and cut in eight pieces. Then layer apples, a couple of prunes or dried appricots, a bit of chopped garlic, chicken, spices - cinnamon ,cloves, salt and a smallpinch of cayenne and another layer of apples and prunes/appricots. And it goes in the oven covered for 50-60 min. If I am in a rush this will be tomorrows dinner. So, I will not necessarily use her technique but it is great to be remindered of simple and delicious recipes. If this is too bland for you, try using Indian principle of finishing masala - add whatever spice combination that complements the dish and pleases you to a portion that you took out of the main dish and put it back in the oven for a few minutes while you make other plates.

                                                                                                                                                    I also like her serving suggestions and that she adds these suggestions to the shopping list and marks them with an asterik so that you know these are extras for you to pick and choose or not. And she tells you for how many meals they are meant - i.e. **spinach (2 meals) - from serving suggestions you know that she suggests servining spinach salad with baked rigatoni and quesadillas.

                                                                                                                                                    I'd be very curious to know if this book is helpful to you if you decide to try it out. I would be curious to cook from it too but have the rest of the week planned and leaving on Sunday. Will try next time.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: herby
                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen RE: herby Oct 11, 2012 01:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                      How cute about all of those kids. Funny thing is, you may never know how many of those children's lives you've influenced, but I'll bet there is at least one kid or two whose spark you lit. And, of course, your grandson will remember this for a long, long time, too.

                                                                                                                                                      Herby, thank you so much for taking the time to give me your detailed impressions of this book. I very much appreciate your time and perspective.

                                                                                                                                                      I think I'll do exactly as you suggest and take this book out of the library.

                                                                                                                                                      On another topic, don't Jamie Oliver's folks know I'm obsessively checking my email for their response about the U.S. publication date of 15MM?


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                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 02:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                        We gratefully acknowledge your obsession!!

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                                                                                                                                                          herby RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 02:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                          I am sure they know that you are obsessing - oh, so mean of them not to contact you already!:) Have you cooked from JO's 30min book? I watched some episodes of the show and can't believe the frantic pace of these meals. I do not want to cook like that and the mess left behind that would take at least another 30 min to clean up! And this is why I have no interest in 15 min:)

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                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: herby Oct 11, 2012 02:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                            No, I never have because I never wanted pudding! HA! But, I wondered if I did the 15 minute meals (which do not include a pudding) at a relaxed pace if they'd become 30 minute meals...


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                                                                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 02:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                              I still haven't cooked from 30 minutes either (I'm totally embarrassed by this fact), but have looked at it longingly and loved the shows. There is SO much I want to make in that book, but I've been kind of overwhelmed. I really need to just pull it from my bedside and start making stuff from it. so many cookbooks, so little time. I'd just skip the puds most days, to be honest. And probably one of the sides too on some of the menus. Note to self: DO THIS.

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                                                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 11, 2012 03:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                Well, it's been my plan all along to go through and cross out all of the puddings (and all the prep and cooking steps related to puddings which, as you know, are woven throughout), but he saved me the trouble by coming out with 15MM instead. No puddings!

                                                                                                                                                                Would love to hear how it goes if you do cook from 30MM. (or MIM as the US version is known)..


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                                                                                                                                                                  dkennedy RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 03:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  So I don't have 30 minute meals. What is all this about puddings? Every meal has a pudding?

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                                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Oct 11, 2012 04:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, every meal in 30MM (MIM in the US) has a dessert! It's not always pudding (even in JO lingo) but I swear he calls every dessert a pudding whenever I hear him speak.


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                                                                                                                                                                      nomadchowwoman RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      You know, DQ, I don't know if it's true of all the British, but for my British friends, "pudding" is generic for dessert.

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                                                                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen RE: nomadchowwoman Oct 11, 2012 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Yes, that's exactly what I'm referring to. Every dessert's a pudding and every meal (with just a few exceptions) in 30MM has a pudding. He dropped the pudding from the meals in 15MM.


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                                                                                                                                                                          lilham RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 02:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Pudding is the sweet course in a meal. And I think almost every meal in the 30min meal has a pudding. (Even icecream, yoghurt or fruit is pudding, btw). DH and I are from NZ and we also refer to it as pudding. Same with the tea being the evening meal. I think kiwis are more likely to use tea than the brits. But they all know what I mean when I say I'm going to have blah and blah for tea tonight.

                                                                                                                                                                          And cooking a 15min meal in a relaxed way is about 30min. But I've only done one. (The Thai chicken laksa). I'm going to do the greek couscous salad with tzatziki next week.

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                                                                                                                                                                            greedygirl RE: lilham Oct 12, 2012 09:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Lots of British people call the evening meal "tea". I grew up with breakfast, dinner and tea, which is more of a northern, working class thing. Now I'm more likely to say breakfast, lunch and dinner, partly because I've moved south.

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                                                                                                                                                                              Harters RE: greedygirl Oct 12, 2012 09:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              And I also have breakfast, lunch and dinner - cos even though I'm northern, I'm middle class. It's changed over the last hundred years - where even northern middle class folk had "dinner" in the middle of the day and "tea" in the evening. I think it reflects when you had your main meal of the day - certainly in the context that I know of those times, the evening meal might just be sandwiches and cake (or similar).

                                                                                                                                                                              Dessert is dessert. Pudding may a type of dessert or,indeed, a dessert. Desserts may also be "sweets". I think the latter probably derives from 19th and early 20th century formal dinners when a meal would usually end with a "savoury", taken after a "sweet" dessert course.

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                                                                                                                                                                                greedygirl RE: Harters Oct 12, 2012 10:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                When I went to university, I discovered that the truly posh, generally southern people had breakfast, lunch and supper. Supper for me was a bowl of cornflakes or a mug of ovaltine before bed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom RE: Harters Oct 12, 2012 10:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Trick question: what do you call what we call a pudding?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Harters RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 11:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Erm, what would you generally call a pudding?

                                                                                                                                                                                    The only time I can recall eating a "pudding" in America was earlier this year when I had "Indian pudding" in Boston. It was much more of a mush than the fairly solid steamed British pudding but there was a similarlity in flavour.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Caitlin McGrath RE: Harters Oct 12, 2012 11:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm betting LulusMom is referring to, e.g., rice pudding, tapioca pudding, chocolate pudding, etc. Not so common as restaurant fare, more comfort food.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Like so: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/foo...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: Harters Oct 12, 2012 12:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        As Caitlin pointed out (and it honestly had never occurred to me), you likely would never get what we call "pudding" in a restaurant here. It's a very creamy thing, served in a bowl, but not like ice cream.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Harters RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 02:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Rice pudding would be fairly common in the UK - a home, not restaurant, dish.

                                                                                                                                                                                          And, just to confuse things, we have savoury dishes called puddings - black pudding (a sausage made from pig's blood), steak and kidney pudding (long cooked meat in a suet casing)

                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                                                                                                                              geekmom RE: nomadchowwoman Oct 12, 2012 11:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              This is too funny. I have a British dessert cookbook called "Gregg's Favourite Puddings" that I left out on the table recently while I was away for a few days. When I got home, the friends who had been coming in to look after my cat had left a confused note on top of the book asking why there were so few pudding recipes in the book and so many recipes for things that aren't pudding...

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                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom RE: geekmom Oct 12, 2012 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                That is REALLY funny.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  nomadchowwoman RE: geekmom Oct 12, 2012 12:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, it reminds me of the first time someone I had gone to school came from England to visit, with his girlfriend. She asked if she could help with the dinner we were preparing for a small group. I said, "sure," and she said "I was thinking I could make a nice pudding." Awkward silence as I imagined a big bowl of chcolate or vanilla (Jello-brand) as my mother always made when we were sick. As I was trying to find a way to steer her toward something else, she began to describe what turned out to be a fabulous berry trifle!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: nomadchowwoman Oct 12, 2012 04:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh my goodness, Jello is total hospital food, isn't it??

                                                                                                                                                                                    Great story!

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                                                                                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: dkennedy Oct 11, 2012 04:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              As I think has already been made clear at this point, but I'll go ahead and add this, is that every meal has what we in the US call a dessert. Which means, if you ask me, that thinking the meal will only take 30 minutes is seriously pushing it (at least for my mental health).

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                                                                                                                                                                                lilham RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 02:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                Will you call fruit eaten after a main meal a dessert as well?

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                                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom RE: lilham Oct 12, 2012 02:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I would say yes, that would be dessert. As in "honey, would you like a tangerine for dessert?" I'd be interested to hear what other Americans say.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Caitlin McGrath RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 11:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Absolutely - anything sweet following a meal is called dessert in my (American) experience.

                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: lilham
                                                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen RE: lilham Oct 12, 2012 04:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, I'd say that, although my husband might grumble that it's not a "real dessert".


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                                                                                                                                                                                      nomadchowwoman RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 11:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      LOL--mine too!

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                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 03:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                I promise to make at least one meal in the next two weeks from it (not the whole menu, but something). Husband going away again, and Lulu is obsessed with the book too, so we'll have a fun night of cooking and eating together. I'll be looking forward to it for all sorts of reasons!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  You know, my recollection of 30MM was that the recipes were going to be hard to untangle. But, I just took a fresh look at the book last night and I think it's not as hard as I thought. He has you switch back and forth between dishes during the prep, so from entree to starch to pudding etc. but each section is clearly labeled. So, if you don't want to do the pudding, I think it's pretty easy to skip just that.


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                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    My only worry is that he doesn't give timings, so skipping something might make that awkward. But then again I don't have the knife skills he has.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 10:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Hmmm...I hadn't thought about that...


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                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 11:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm not too worried about it, but I do wish he wouldnt' do it that way. Much nicer to be able to pick and choose what you want to make from a menu.

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                                                                                                                                                              beetlebug RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 10:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                              When I've bought used cookbooks, I love the notes from the original owner. I find them really useful and interesting.

                                                                                                                                                              Before I got over the writing in cookbook phobia, I used tons of sticky notes. Once, I gave a friend a cookbook as a birthday present (Zuni Cafe). Since I used my own copy to bits, I wanted to give her my insights but didn't want to write in the book. After I was finished with my sticky notes, just about every other page had a sticky with my notes and arrows pointing to the relevant sections. My husband thought I was being ridiculous with the amount of stickies I went through and he sort of had a point. But, it was funny.

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                                                                                                                                                          Gio RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 05:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                          I use cookbooks like work books. They have to be added to as one moves through a recipe; noting adjustments, increases, omissions, weights, and measures, etc. I guess I started doing it in school and all that helped me learn and remember...

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                                                                                                                                                            flourgirl RE: Gio Oct 11, 2012 05:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                            I write in my cookbooks too - but not all of them. Some of them are just too beautiful and/or valuable to deface that way. I have hundreds of cookbooks - some of them are workhorses, some of them are more for inspiration, some of them are for reference. The ones I don't feel comfortable writing in, I use sticky notes and/or I make notes in EYB.

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                                                                                                                                                              emily RE: flourgirl Oct 11, 2012 10:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                              I just can't write in mine. My mom did, but I have some weird idea that I want to keep my books in "perfect" condition. In fact, I've even considered buying extra Fuchsia Dunlop copies so I can keep mint copies on my shelf. I have worked myself up to folding down the corner of a page in paperbacks that I don't care about (instead of using a bookmark), though.

                                                                                                                                                              In other news, I'm off on my Dunlop-lead food tour of China tomorrow -- can't wait!

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                                                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: emily Oct 11, 2012 10:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                HA I have the same problem, wanting two books. ONe I can keep pristine, then the one I can write in and dog ear and maybe even tear pages out of and put in a plastic sheath so I have can tack the recipe up while I'm cooking from it... I"ve never actually done that, but I want to!


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                                                                                                                                                                  Gio RE: emily Oct 11, 2012 12:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Emily... Bon Voyage. Eat well and be safe. You're going to tell us all about it, right?

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                                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen RE: Gio Oct 11, 2012 12:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Wait, I missed the part about the Dunlop tour. *so jealous* Have a blast. Learn lots. Eat well.


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                                                                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 06:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                              I hope you enjoyed your movie night! Sounds delightful.

                                                                                                                                                              I'm always writing in my cookbooks - reminding myself of changes I made, how much I liked something, etc. My brain, for some reason, refuses to store this information.

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                                                                                                                                                                jpr54_1 RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                what r differences btw UK/US/Australian editions of cookbooks?
                                                                                                                                                                conversions to metric,etc.and/or recipes/ingredients different/names of cuts of meat/fish

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                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: jpr54_1 Oct 11, 2012 09:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, also, "gas marks" vs. oven temps.


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                                                                                                                                                                    jpr54_1 RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 10:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    do these changes affect the results?

                                                                                                                                                                    where can I find names of different cuts of beef, etc. fish, etc

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                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen RE: jpr54_1 Oct 11, 2012 10:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Well, those things definitely affect the results. If the recipe tells you to put your cake pan in an oven pre-heated to Gas Mark 4, you're going to have to figure something out!

                                                                                                                                                                      There are a couple good threads here on the home cooking board that have links to some conversion charts. I wish I'd been smart enough to bookmark them or save them to my profile. Maybe someone else will come to our rescue?


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                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 10:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        This one might help! http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/conve...

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                                                                                                                                                                          beetlebug RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 11:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Hesser's book, nytimes essential cookbook also has the gas mark conversions in the flaps.

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                                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: beetlebug Oct 11, 2012 12:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I meant to bring ENYTC to work with me today so I could make copies, but forgot. Such a great book. I should cook from it more.


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                                                                                                                                                                              beetlebug RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 12:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              Ditto on cooking from it more. I do have an issue with the title. I can never remember what it's called. In my head and at home, it's the red cookbook. Just like there is the yellow gourmet cookbook and the green one. I've reduced the compendiums to their colors. Too bad it's doubtful that HC hounds will know what I'm referring to if I just use colors.

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                                                                                                                                                                            greedygirl RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 04:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            As we don't all have gas ovens, UK books generally have temperatures in Celsius and Fahrenheit as well as gas mark whatever. JO definitely does. I have no idea what gas mark temperatures are either!

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                                                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen RE: greedygirl Oct 11, 2012 05:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I can't now remember which book had only gas marks, but I'm glad most have the C and F as well...


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                                                                                                                                                                                lilham RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 02:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                It might be those from down under? We had a gas stove with gas mark. I've not seen any here in the UK. Or it could just be something from the past?

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                                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: lilham Oct 12, 2012 04:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Nope, it had to have been Ottolenghi, Oliver, Nigella, Slater or Hopkinson. Maybe Elizabeth David? It's also possible it was one of these individual's website or from the Guardian or something like that.


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                                                                                                                                                                                    Caitlin McGrath RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 11:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Ottolenghi's UK books do indicate gas marks, as well as Celsius.

                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: lilham
                                                                                                                                                                                    greedygirl RE: lilham Oct 12, 2012 09:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Gas stoves generally have gas marks. Most people have electric though, with a gas hob (which I prefer - I got rid of the gas oven that came with the house).

                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                                                                                  Gio RE: greedygirl Oct 12, 2012 05:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I've often wondered if any of us cook on an Aga. A stove I've always wanted...

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                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: Gio Oct 12, 2012 06:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    They *look* beautiful, don't they? I also wonder how they cook.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Gio RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 06:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I haven't looked recently but I think they're powered by gas these days as well as that ever-present fire of old, so I wonder if that's where the "gas mark" comes in. Perhaps Harters will look in and tell us.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      greedygirl RE: Gio Oct 12, 2012 09:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I've cooked on an Aga - the old fashioned type powered by coal/wood. It presented a challenge, because it's harder to control the heat. There are basically different ovens which are different temperatures. On the stovetop, you have a hot plate, and a cooler one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        nomadchowwoman RE: Gio Oct 12, 2012 11:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I have a baby Aga, and I love it, but it is definitely not the type most people associate with Aga. (It has Aga's looks and cast-iron construction, but it is a dual fuel, with gas burners ranging from a simmer to a super-powered, quick boil ones and two small electric ovens, which bake very well). But my friend in western Mass worked as a personal chef for a few years, and one of the celebs she cooked for had one of those great big, multi-ovened ones. She said it took her a while to get the hang of it, but ended up loving the thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 10, 2012 11:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  Don't these sound and look delicious? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/art...


                                                                                                                                                              2. nomadchowwoman RE: buttertart Oct 5, 2012 04:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                It seems I've been doing more cookbook purchasing than actual cooking lately, but I'm hoping to change that as things settle down a bit around here and the weather cools.

                                                                                                                                                                I bought both "660 Curries," which I'm enjoying exploring (cooked a few recipes so far that we've really liked), and "The Meatball Shop Cookbook" so as to participate in the current COTM and last month's DOTM.

                                                                                                                                                                From a TGC bundle sale:
                                                                                                                                                                "Modern Sauces"--the book itself is gorgeous, and the recipes--not exclusively sauces but things to be sauced as well--look appealing
                                                                                                                                                                "Vegetables, Revised"--I've only had a cursory look; not sure I really needed another veggie book
                                                                                                                                                                "My Berlin Kitchen"--didn't realize this was a blog-based food memoir when I ordered it, but I read it last week and liked it pretty well; some of the recipes look good
                                                                                                                                                                "Flour Water Salt Yeast"--an impulse buy, this is a serious bread book, and I'm more a no-knead kind of gal, a definite convert to the Lahey method (but maybe one day I'll muster up some courage and attempt a few of these recipes)

                                                                                                                                                                Several used finds, all for a song:
                                                                                                                                                                Ada Boni's "Italian Regional Cooking"--couldn't resist, for sentimental reasons, even though I ended up schlepping this oversized book in my suitcase. (My mom gave me her copy of this along w/two Betty Crocker cookbooks when I moved out to go to college, and I've missed it for that reason ever since I lost it in a flood.)
                                                                                                                                                                "Zuni Café Cookbook"--finally replacing that one too.
                                                                                                                                                                "Red, White, and Greens"--another replacement; I'd forgotten how much I loved that one.
                                                                                                                                                                "The Italian Country Table"--for $2, I caved (LRK's "Splendid Table" is probably my favorite Italian cookbook).

                                                                                                                                                                Waiting for: "Jerusalem"

                                                                                                                                                                Lusting after, but still just a gleam: "Burma"

                                                                                                                                                                1. buttertart RE: buttertart Oct 5, 2012 04:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  OK so I just had to lash out for this after my disappointment last week...
                                                                                                                                                                  Can't wait! WHY can't we get cooking shows from the UK here?

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                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet RE: buttertart Oct 5, 2012 04:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, why doesn't BBC American bring those shows here? They must be licensed just for the UK.

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                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: roxlet Oct 5, 2012 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Infuriating. I've never seen one of her shows, I think they had one on PBS years ago.

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                                                                                                                                                                        greedygirl RE: buttertart Oct 5, 2012 11:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Hopefully the BBC will roll out an international i-player soon.

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                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: greedygirl Oct 8, 2012 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          BBC America tends to wall-to-wall Dr. Who and (?) Star Trek reruns...

                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: roxlet
                                                                                                                                                                        Harters RE: roxlet Oct 6, 2012 07:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        "Curry Nation" will be showing on the Good Food Channel (cable channel) in the UK not the BBC. It's not in my cable package and I'm not paying the extra for that bundle just to get it.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Harters
                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: Harters Oct 8, 2012 09:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Aha. International i-player for that too please.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                            Harters RE: buttertart Oct 10, 2012 07:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Unfortunately, no UK i-player either for that channel.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. The Dairy Queen RE: buttertart Oct 6, 2012 01:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      So in my ongoing quest to better improve my weekly menu planning skills I've recently purchase 2 new books:

                                                                                                                                                                      "Cook Once a Week, Eat Well Every Day: Make-Ahead Meals that Transform Your Suppertime Circus into Relaxing Family Time" by Theresa Albert: Still waiting for this one to arrive (darn, no postal service on Monday in the U.S. I hope it comes tomorrow.) This book had two draws for me. 1. You do everything in about 3 hours on the weekend and you just reheat or so simple prep during the week. I thought this could be good for weeks when I'm really, really swamped. 2. Several of the Amazon reviewers are complaining that the book relies on too many healthy and "odd" ingredients such as quinoa and lentils and bok choy and flax seed. Since I cook with all of those ingredients I thought I'd take the plunge. Too many "family friendly" cookbooks lean too heavily towards cheesy "comfort foods" in my opinion.

                                                                                                                                                                      "Robin Rescues Dinner" by food network personality Robin Miller. I can't remember out how I stumbled across this book, I think it was an Amazon recommendation based on my current browsing history. ANYWAY. The premise of this book is 52 weeks of seasonal weekly meal plans with a list of what you can prep in advance if you wish, then 3 very flexible recipes for that week.

                                                                                                                                                                      For each week's menu, cooking for one of the dishes always turns into planned leftovers for another of the dishes. Or she'll have you double and freeze or double and "morph" into another meal (ie., use in another recipe elsewhere into the book). Plus she has 6-7 great lists in the book along the lines of 20 things to do with rotisserie chicken, 13 things to do with canned seafood, 20 quick pantry meals, and so on.

                                                                                                                                                                      I've only ever seen Robin's show once (I think it was 5 ingredient fix, though I can't even really say for sure if that is even what her show is called, 5-6 years ago) and it didn't especially appeal to me. But this book has arrived and I have to say, my expectations were low and so far, I'm pleasantly surprised. (I haven't cooked from it yet, mind you.) Lots of delicious sounding, but fast, meals in this book. All "real" food and often using more "specialty" ingredients shall we say. So mirin and shallots and shiitake mushrooms and miso. Again, all ingredients I use that seldom appear in the typical "cooking for a family" book. Time will tell.


                                                                                                                                                                      1. cresskillgirl RE: buttertart Oct 6, 2012 07:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        I am new to this. What is tgc or eyb? Places to purchase books? I usually go to amazon.

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                                                                                                                                                                          dkennedy RE: cresskillgirl Oct 6, 2012 08:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          TGC = The Good Cook, a club that you join and they send you a monthly cookbook. It is a great resource, at the time you join you get 3 books for 1 each (plus shipping) and get the option of buying another at 50% off. Thereafter, you only have to buy one more book at full price to meet your commitment. They offer periodic bundle sales where you get each title for $10.00, great for stocking up on gifts for teachers or for co-workers.

                                                                                                                                                                          EYB = Eat Your Books - a website you join that has a public index of 1000s of cookbooks. This allows you to look up a recipe by ingredients or by recipe. So, for example, you are looking for a banana fosters recipe, you input that into the search engine and it tells you every book you have on your shelves containing that recipe. Also allows you to look things up by ingredients and look at the index of books you don't own yet. Also allows you to generate shopping lists.

                                                                                                                                                                        2. Berheenia RE: buttertart Oct 6, 2012 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Major lust for The Tucci Cookbook which comes out next week just as we are contemplating a low carb diet. RATS!

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                                                                                                                                                                            angelsmom RE: Berheenia Oct 7, 2012 10:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            He does have a lot of fish and meat recipes.

                                                                                                                                                                          2. lilham RE: buttertart Oct 6, 2012 01:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I bought Jamie Oliver's new book Jamie 15 minute meals. As a working mum, I'm a sucker for any book that promises fast, easy family meals. So I have got this book on pre-order the moment I heard about it.

                                                                                                                                                                            I cooked my first meal tonight from the book, the Thai chicken laksa. I cut the recipe in half since I was only cooking for 2, and I also made a few substitution. First you season the chicken thigns with five spice, salt and pepper. (He specifies 1 chicken thigh per person. I thought it was too little, but Jamie said the recipes have been designed with a dietitian to be 1/3 carbs, 1/3 protein and 1/3 veg. So I trust him on this and it turns out there's enough meat)! Put the chicken on a gridle pan. Cook butternut squash in a pot of stock. (He had you using a whole butternut squash and slice it in the food processor. I used pre-cut squash instead). You make a paste with ginger, spring onion, garlic, coriander stalk, peanut butter, soy sauce, fish sauce and sesame oil. Add this paste to the stock, then add noodles and asparagus. Since asparagus is out of season, I used a cabbage that was lurking in the fridge. (That's a failed substitution since the cabbage soaked up a lot of the soup. I'll use green beans next time). The chicken is cooked by now. Take off the heat and drizzle honey, lime juice, and sesame seeds over it. (I used lemon instead because that's what I have in the fridge). Once the noodles are cooked, season with soy sauce and lime juice, then serve it with sliced chicken on top.

                                                                                                                                                                            The whole meal took me just under 30min. I was cooking quite leisurely and was cleaning up a bit as I go. I also have to check the recipe quite a few times during cooking. So I was quite pleased the entire process took 30min! As for the food itself? It is quite tasty, though nothing like the laksa I've had in Singapore. I'm now quite keen to try other meals in the book.

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                                                                                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: lilham Oct 6, 2012 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I'm so glad you said it didn't taste like the laksa you've had in Singapore. Reading the ingredients list I was having a hard time reconciling it to what my taste buds think of a laksa having in it. But the main thing is that it was good, and I'm amazed that took only 30 minutes. Can't wait to hear about your next try, and thanks for the report.

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                                                                                                                                                                                lilham RE: LulusMom Oct 6, 2012 02:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                I have to admit the cleaning up a bit = putting things in the dishwasher only, just in case you think I actually did the dishes as I go! I think I saved quite a bit of time by not having to peel the butternut squash too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom RE: lilham Oct 6, 2012 04:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm a big wash-as-I-go person, but my husband always says "why do we have a dish washer??" in irritation (mind, when my mother was here after the birth of Lulu and cooking and insisted he do the cleaning up, he suddenly felt differently). And I'd be one who would likely buy the pre-cut squash. I really dislike cutting butternut squash, having cut myself once.

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                                                                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: lilham Oct 6, 2012 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for your report on this book. Sounds delish! I wonder if cutting the recipe in half reduced your prep & cooking time?


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                                                                                                                                                                                  lilham RE: lilham Oct 14, 2012 06:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  We made another Jamie 15 min meal last night - Greek Chicken, Herby Vegetable Couscous & Tzatziki (p38).

                                                                                                                                                                                  If it's possible, it is even easier than the Thai Chicken Laksa. (Or it just felt less complicated). Season the chicken with all spice, oregano, lemon zest, salt and pepper. Bash with a rolling pin then cook in a pan for 4 min. Grate a cucumber, salt, and then squeeze all the water out of it. Transfer to bowl and add yoghurt, lemon and mint. This is the tzatziki done. Cook the couscous (I did it according to packet instruction, not Jamie's). Chop dill, chilli, spring onion and pepper in a food processor. Scatter onto a platter. Add cooked peas, destoned olives. Then the couscous. Mix and add olive oil and lemon zest and juice to taste. Scatter crumbled feta on top. Serve.

                                                                                                                                                                                  It took me just under 30min again from start to finish (28 min and 49 seconds to be exact). This includes time taken to refill my pepper mill. Oh and it tastes great too. Have to say I'm impressed by the book so far.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    greedygirl RE: lilham Oct 14, 2012 06:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm making the Asian beef salad tonight - will report back.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      greedygirl RE: greedygirl Oct 15, 2012 01:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      The beef salad was pretty good, and took half an hour from start to finish (cooking at a leisurely pace, and getting the ingredients out of the fridge/cupboard etc). A lot of bang for your buck - and I forgot a vital ingredient (chilli)! It felt pretty healthy too. A moderate amount of beef, carbs (rice noodles) and a large helping of veggies (salad).

                                                                                                                                                                                      Tonight will be the lamb kofte meatballs with chopped salad. Can't wait!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      LulusMom RE: lilham Oct 14, 2012 06:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      His whole platter thing sort of bothers me. I just don't serve stuff like that, and am not going to start. I love his food, truly, but that just isnt' going to happen. And when I ate at one of his restaurants recently I found the broccolini I got to be almost impossible to eat in the little bowl it was in - impossible to cut. Totally an aside, because I WANT THIS BOOK.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        lilham RE: LulusMom Oct 14, 2012 06:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        You know what. I only wrote platter because Jamie used a platter. I don't even own any wooden serving board myself. I did serve the meal family/communal style though. I had the tzatziki in a bowl, the couscous in a large salad bowl and the chicken on a smallish plate.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: lilham Oct 14, 2012 07:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          So I'm not the only one who can't really see serving the food on a wooden platter the way he does? I thought maybe in the UK this was common practice in homes. I pretty much plate stuff here, although things like tzatziki I would have in a bowl on the table.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Honestly, I don't mind it at all in the book - I just wouldn't serve it that way myself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 14, 2012 08:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm not into the wooden serving platter.


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                                                                                                                                                                                              Harters RE: LulusMom Oct 29, 2012 04:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Nope, not common in the UK to use wooden platters - although I think it's a great way to present. Really like the way he presents food very well spread out. We're building up a few things that we've come across in second hand shops.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            geekmom RE: LulusMom Oct 15, 2012 08:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            I have tried the platter thing from time to time (like when serving the luscious Gado-Gado recipe from Ottolenghi) and what I find is that it lets my kids get away with a) taking very little food, then thinking they've had enough dinner to go ahead with dessert and b) taking only the elements of the dish that appeal to them at that particular moment. So as a concept I don't mind it from time to time but I don't like when I have to watch my kids like hawks to make sure they eat a balanced meal with an adequate portion size.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              lilham RE: geekmom Oct 15, 2012 10:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Actually I don't like the platter thing only because they are flat and large. I have a small dining table so I prefer serving bowls. I serve all family meals without plating up for everyone. We take what we want from all on offer. We have always done it in my family and I can assure you we all grow up fine. What is an adequate portion size other than simply eat till you are full? We almost never have desserts so its not a problem of us maybe skipping ahead for it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                geekmom RE: lilham Oct 15, 2012 11:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                My kids have high functioning autism, and we are working on teaching them how to look after their own bodies; for the most part they eat well (my son is like a fruit hoover) but it's proving extremely difficult to get them to understand the importance of getting enough protein and vegetables, something they will never learn on their own without it being directly taught to them. My daughter in particular has a tendency to be hypoglycemic and to eat like a bird; not a good combination!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  lilham RE: geekmom Oct 15, 2012 11:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It must be hard to be a mum to kids with special needs! Things us aren't even aware of could be a problem. My little one isn't allergic to anything but does seem to prefer carbs. I was shocked how hard my friend with a very allergic child is finding the whole feeding thing. Her son is under a dietician care to make sure he has a balanced diet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    geekmom RE: lilham Oct 15, 2012 11:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, there are definitely some interesting challenges that come with having kids who need something extra/different than the average kid!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    My son in particular is a handful at times and I've had to go to some lengths to make sure he has the variety of therapies he needs to be successful as an adult - but he is also my foodie kid, he loves going to cheese shops with me and sampling, and he shares my love for rich, fruity red wine, etc. I'm looking forward to the day when he and I can take an Australian winery tour together. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: lilham Oct 14, 2012 08:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Sounds delicious. I want this book, too.


                                                                                                                                                                                        2. herby RE: buttertart Oct 6, 2012 05:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Because of raves on these boards I bought the following three books - all relatively cheap and in pristine condition:

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. I Love Crabcakes! by Tom Douglas
                                                                                                                                                                                          2. How to Pick a Peach by Russ Parsons
                                                                                                                                                                                          3. Nancy Silverton's Sandwich Book

                                                                                                                                                                                          The last is Gran Cocina Latina because I wanted a South American Book for some time and couldn't resist.

                                                                                                                                                                                          So, here are another four books to add to my shelves that can't house any more books and where will I ever find the time to read and cook from all these boks?!! Off to enter the books into the EYB system.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Quintious RE: herby Oct 6, 2012 05:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            You're gonna love the crab cake book. Start with the Etta's original, move on to the Thierry Rauthierau version, and go from there :).

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                                                                                                                                                                                              herby RE: Quintious Oct 6, 2012 06:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Many thanks, Quintious! I absolutely love it when CHs recommend recipes - I now put stickies inside the book front cover and write the name/page # of recommended recipes there. Some books that I've used a lot lately also have stickers with the dishes I made and rating (1-5) and might even have another with dishes I wish to make.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                dkennedy RE: herby Oct 7, 2012 05:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                The Nancy Silverton's Sandwich Book is also a treasure. I read it cover to cover, Nancy is such a great teacher. I am especially fond of her lamb sandwich toward the front of the book, but really I have no favorites, everything in her book is worth making, Enjoy!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby RE: dkennedy Oct 7, 2012 07:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Just looked at the lamb recipe, DK, and it is mouthwatering:) I love lamb - many thanks for the suggestion!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    dkennedy RE: herby Oct 7, 2012 07:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    It is even better than it sounds!

                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Chocolatechipkt RE: buttertart Oct 6, 2012 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            I received THREE cookbooks in the mail from my best friend.
                                                                                                                                                                                            -Carole Walter's coffee cakes
                                                                                                                                                                                            -Vintage Cakes
                                                                                                                                                                                            -Cake Keeper Cakes.


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                                                                                                                                                                                              nadiam1000 RE: Chocolatechipkt Oct 8, 2012 01:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Chocolatechipkt - as a baker myself and owner of these 3 books, I can tell you that you will enjoy them. Nice friend to send them to you! Love your name btw.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Chocolatechipkt RE: nadiam1000 Oct 8, 2012 06:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks! I've already made three recipes from the CW book and have been very happy with the results. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: Chocolatechipkt Oct 8, 2012 09:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Vintage Cakes is very nice. Now get "Unforgettable Desserts".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  rstuart RE: nadiam1000 Oct 14, 2012 08:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I love cake keepers cake.. that's a great cookbook. I just got VIntage cakes out of the library.. I think that Carole Walter's coffee cakes is next on the list..;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet RE: rstuart Oct 14, 2012 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I like the Carol Walters book a lot, though her instructions tend to be a little fussy sometimes even though she gives measures and not weights.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: roxlet Oct 14, 2012 05:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Another bossyboots like RLB.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Oct 14, 2012 05:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        RLB? Sorry, I had 2 glasses of wine w dinner and my brain isn't working as well as it should!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          JoanN RE: Breadcrumbs Oct 14, 2012 05:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Rose Levy Berenbaum.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Breadcrumbs RE: JoanN Oct 14, 2012 05:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'll drink to that!! (I've totally lost my stamina!!! ; - ) )

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Of course, thanks Joan!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              JoanN RE: Breadcrumbs Oct 14, 2012 06:30 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs RE: rstuart Oct 14, 2012 05:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sheesh! I'd missed your post rstuart but was just alerted to roxlet's post and now I must have the coffee cake book!! We love coffee cakes and the CW recipes I've tried from the books I have were terrific. Off to Abe's I go...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks roxlet!! ; - )

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Chocolatechipkt RE: Breadcrumbs Oct 14, 2012 06:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's a great book -- you won't be disappointed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          rstuart RE: Chocolatechipkt Oct 15, 2012 06:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Right.. I just put it on hold at the library!

                                                                                                                                                                                                3. DiningDiva RE: buttertart Oct 7, 2012 08:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I do have the Smitten Kitchen cookbook and Robert Santibañez's new book Tacos, Tamales & Tortas on pre-order with Amazon. Both have a delivery date within the next couple of weeks, or at least before the end of the month

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    flourgirl RE: DiningDiva Oct 7, 2012 08:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have the new Santibanez book on order too and I can't wait to get it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. buttertart RE: buttertart Oct 8, 2012 09:06 AM


                                                                                                                                                                                                    Abandon hope, all ye who venture to read these words.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      DiningDiva RE: buttertart Oct 8, 2012 09:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Damn you Buttetart!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: DiningDiva Oct 8, 2012 09:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I am a naughty girl.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby RE: buttertart Oct 8, 2012 09:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I saw this earlier this morning and do not want too many. Good thing that I am not a baker - none of the baking books appeal as I recently bought Flour and have hardly made anything out of yet. It usually hot and spicy focused books that get my immediate attention.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          DiningDiva RE: herby Oct 8, 2012 10:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby, what have you made out of Flour? I have it and haven't baked from it yet even though I think everything in it looks enticing?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby RE: DiningDiva Oct 8, 2012 06:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I made cheddar scones that were really good and muffins something or rather "healthy" that were also good. I am travelling until Monday and do not have access to the book. Will look to see what I made and marked to make when I am back at home and, hopefully, remember where the question came from:) If you do not hear, do remind me please.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: herby Oct 8, 2012 04:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby, Burma...Burma...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby RE: buttertart Oct 8, 2012 06:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Burma... do not know,sitting on the fence. Another BIG book and I am tired of these huge tomes. Not sure if I want to get into another unfamiliar cuisine while I would really like to practice Japanese cooking and bought Japanese Farm Food recently.I also bought Dunlop's latest book and do not cook Chinese so this is another new cuisine. I can't wait for Jerusalem and want to cook from it as soon as it arrives. So many books, so much to cook, so little time, not too much money and ooportunities to feed people ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I only have Seduction of Rice that she co-authored and while the book is full of interesting stories and info, I was not as taken with the recipes. I have not cooked a lot from it mainly because I always found another recipe more appealing than the one in the book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                MelMM RE: herby Oct 8, 2012 06:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I have Burma and it's looking good. Of course I can't tell you if you would cook from it or not. But I can compare a bit to the books she wrote with her ex-husband, which might help you decide. Burma is more of a straight-on cookbook. It still has great pictures and background info, but it's not as much a travelogue as their earlier books were. The recipes look well-written and doable. While I have liked her previous books, this one is the most appealing yet. It will probably be a couple of weeks, though, before I have a chance to cook from it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Madrid RE: MelMM Oct 8, 2012 06:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  their joint cookbooks have been criticized for sacrificing authenticity. I found them close to authentic but not at all totally "there." How does Burma rate? I love Oseland's Indonesia home cooking....is Burma at all comparable? I would prefer the complicated, more authentic versions....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart RE: Madrid Oct 9, 2012 08:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We need our very own qianning to weigh in on this, she has a personal/academic interest in Burma. The book is blissfully lacking in the breathless spirituality one with the cosmos tome of the cowritten books...more like a cooler (i.e. more reserved) Fuchsia.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      qianning RE: buttertart Oct 11, 2012 06:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So far I've made three things from the book, Kachin Chicken Curry, Aromatic Chicken from the Shan Hills, Pork Strips with Star Anise. They've all passed the Mr. QN (Rangoon native, with plenty of family from other parts of Burma) sniff test. I liked the dishes too! Lots more yet to explore, and will report back when I get a fuller picture of the book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen RE: qianning Oct 11, 2012 07:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh man. I really don't need another cookbook, but this is starting to sound very tempting... I can't wait to read more from you on this book.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          emily RE: qianning Oct 11, 2012 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Did you adjust the quantity of seasoning/spices at all? Seemed like from my first pass that the quantities were small, but maybe they pack a punch.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Allegra_K RE: qianning Oct 26, 2012 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Have you had a chance to make any other dishes from this book? I'm curious to know if your quest for Shan Tohu has finally ended.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I plan on making a bunch of Burmese dishes for dinner tomorrow for some friends who never mind being guinea pigs for my ceaseless culinary explorations. As much fun as it is to try new recipes, I would feel better knowing that there are some reliable ones out there, so that dinner would be sure not to fail completely (as happened the other night with 660 curries). Any input you wish to give or any recommendations would be much appreciated!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              qianning RE: Allegra_K Oct 27, 2012 06:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              just saw this....let's see, we have been cooking a fair amount from this book, with some real success, but also a few ho-hums, and a fail or two. Given that we a) like Burmese food to begin with, b) cook it pretty often c) have opinions on how we think it should taste, I'm not sure how generally applicable our views are, but here's a quick summary.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Things that we've really liked: Deep fried Chayote fingers (we used bottle gourd strips, not chayote); Tart-Sweet Chili Garlic Sauce; Simmered Cabbage Shan Style; Classic Sour Soup (we substituted chimbaung leaves-gongura-for the tamarind pulp); Long Bean Salad with Roasted Peanuts; Kachin Chicken Curry (steamed, I skinned the chicken before cooking); Aromatic chicken from the Shan Hills; Pork Strips with Star Anise; three Layered Pork with mustard greens (good as a foil to something spicy, border-line ho hum for me, but Mr. QN assures me the recipe is pretty true to his memory of how it should taste).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ho-hum, Coconut Sauce Noodles (it was OK, but we have a better in-house recipe, and it really isn't a dish either of us loves, but we make it for company as it is really accessible flavor wise for people who are unfamiliar with Burmese food, and it is a fun party dish).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Fail; Shan tohu! Unfortunately, although understandably, Duguid's recipe is what I call the "ersatz Shan tohu". I've given up looking for a short-cut version that is any good and gone back to the three day long march approach. Alas!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think a lot of the salad dishes look good, and am looking forward to trying more of them (some I already have other recipes for, but will enjoy trying Duguid's take). The fish recipes look a little disappointing to me, but so it goes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If you try some dishes, would love to hear your thoughts. Good luck with the company.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Allegra_K RE: qianning Oct 27, 2012 08:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thank you for your reply! I'm amazed you found my questions at all--geez, scrolling through several hundred posts can take a while. I was thinking of starting up a Burmese Cooking thread, but this was easier...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I spent a leisurely evening the night before gathering/making my arsenal of ingredients. Toasted chickpea flour, chile oil, shallot frying--everything but the tua nao (I'll save that for the summer months-'tis but a short 9 months away), so now I'm ready to roll with the book!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Was doing all my prep work this afternoon: mincing shallots-lots and lots of shallots-, grating carrots, made couple dishes ahead of time, etc......and then my company cancelled! Arggghh.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That really put a damper on things. So now I have a lot of stuff half-ready to go, but no-one to eat it. You aren't by any chance passing through Winnipeg tomorrow? Heh.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This is what I did make. Keep in mind that I have never had Burmese cuisine before, so I really have nothing to compare it to.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                -Travelers Eggplant curry-the verdict is out on this one. I think I may have overdone it on the niboshi, and with some tinkering it could be better suited to my tastes. As is, though--not my favourite.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                -Minced chicken w/galangal and tomato-I really liked this quite a bit. I did write in the book 'less umami next time', as the shrimp paste was a bit too potent for my liking. It is growing on me though, and I can't imagine omitting it completely.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                -Standout tomato chutney-LOVED this one. Spooned it over the chicken dish
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                which really put it over the top. I could eat this as-is for lunch with some rice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That was all that actually made it to completion.Up next, and I don't have much choice unless I want to waste everything: Golden egg curry, long bean salad, mandalay carrot salad,pomelo salad, river fish celebration.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Again, I really appreciate the time you took to respond to my post!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                (And shucks about the tohu! It's those seemingly simple things that are often the most difficult/time consuming to prepare.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  qianning RE: Allegra_K Oct 28, 2012 02:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the invite, wish I could take you up on it. you sure went full throttle for a first time foray into Burmese food.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sorry to hear about your company. It must have been the weekend for cancelling, we were supposed to have lunch in Providence RI with some friends this afternoon, but they bugged out as they were too busy getting ready for the storm. I wanted to ask "Getting what ready" but decided that was a politically incorrect question.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As for the food, I will definitely move the tomato chutney higher up in my "to try" list. Oddly enough, the Burmese way with eggplant is one of my least favorite dishes, Mr. QN has given up making it/asking for it, 'cause he knows I'm not keen, and fortunately he doesn't crave it too badly. I don't think we've ever had/made a Burmese minced chicken dish. I'll have to look more closely at this one, but in general if the shrimp paste seems over-whelming in a dish, as long as it isn't essential for the texture, we freely substitute good fish sauce for shrimp paste.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The endless peeling and chopping of shallots, boy can I relate, that and cleaning cilantro are two chores that are endless. I can always tell if Mr QN is trying to get on my good side if he volunteers to wash cilantro or peel shallots. Although the home made fried shallots are tastier, I have no qualms about keeping jars of the prefabricated ones in the house, as long as you find a good brand (quality of the oil, no preservatives etc) they are a pretty good short cut. And finally tua nao, we buy that pre-made from a on-line Burmese vendor in NYC. If we can figure out a way to exchange addresses I'd be happy to send you some.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Allegra_K RE: qianning Oct 28, 2012 07:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    One good thing that comes with lack of cilantro root availability: the herbs are already packaged in neat, pretty, clean little bundles, so washing is a snap. I can see what you mean now, though, what with my recent root aquisition. It took a while to get it all well-scrubbed.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Great tip about the pre-made fried shallots! I bought a jar a while back with the intent of spending as little money as possible, and they were obviously quite terrible! As with most foreign ingredients, I should know by now that pricier usually equals better.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So lunch today consisted of leftovers and then some. I used the leftover rice to make the fried rice. Mild but good. I love trying all the different versions that are out there from different regions and countries. This one I could easily see as a breakfast dish with a nice runny-yolked egg over top. Yum.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also did the chicken in a tart garlic sauce:pretty tasty, though there was a lot (too much) of thin sauce. Tasted much better than it looked. My Mr. raved about it (and that is rare indeed) and requested that I package some up for him to take to work this evening.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mandalay carrot salad: Wowzers, this one is so wonderful. Reminds me of som tum in some ways, but just different enough to remain unique. Very well received by all. And it's such a snap to put together. It will make frequent appearances in the future.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Long bean salad: another winner here, thanks for the rec. We were arguing over who got to finish it--especially the crispy shallot pieces!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tart chile garlic sauce:another excellent condiment to have on hand.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Then for dinner I made up the golden egg curry: pretty good, I liked the sauce more than the eggs and would probably double the sauce next time.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Pomelo Salad: Not sure about this one, I'll have to try again. I've never had pomelo before, and I know it's supposed to be drier than grapefruit, but this one was bone-dry, so the salad itself could have used more juice. Plus I ever so slightly over-fried some shallots when transferring from pot to plate. (note to self-next time, pour oil through sieve into bowl) and they were more noticable in this salad than the others. So I don't really have an accurate representation of this recipe, and maybe will try again with grapefruit. It would most certainly be cheaper.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: the tua nao-thank you for your kind offer! I'll try to see if there is any stocked around here first, but I may have to take you up on that. I have an email address in my profile info if you'd like to send me a note, and then I could tell you more about my Burmese (and other!) kitchen escapades without clogging up this thread any more. If you'd like, of course. Good luck with your hatch battening-down; I hope the storm isn't too bad for you guys out there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: Allegra_K Oct 29, 2012 06:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not clogging, very enjoyable reading!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        qianning RE: buttertart Oct 29, 2012 06:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Kind as always, BT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Meanwhile wondering if you've delved into "Burma" yet, I'd be interested in hearing your take.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: qianning Oct 29, 2012 07:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have it and will look at it in the next few days, I hope! My sister-in-law saw it when she was here last week and loved it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: buttertart Oct 29, 2012 03:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Spent the day with it. It's wonderful! I want to make a lot of the recipes. Nothing lik an absorbing cookbook to distract one from hell brreaking loose outside.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        qianning RE: Allegra_K Oct 29, 2012 07:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My goodness, you've got a virtual Burmese restaurant going.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -Fried shallots, the only ingredients listed should be shallots and oil (run, don't walk, away from any with citric acid). Around here we refer to disappointment after buying the less expensive ingredient, "the high cost of tuition". And boy have we paid for lots of schooling over the years. in other words, I empathisize.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -Too much sauce/too soupy, again a common occurrence, I think because it is so hard to know just how much water has been pumped into our poultry and meats these days.. We just remove the protein, boil down the sauce to desired consistency, and add back the protein.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -carrot salad, I'll definitely give that one a try.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -pomelo salad, hmmm, this in all its variations (Burmese, Thai, Yunnanese & etc) is a serious favorite of mine. But looking at the recipe In "Burma", I'm surprised that there's no lime juice in it. You might want to try one of the recipes in "Thai Food" or "Hot Sour Sweet Salty" before giving up on pomelo. And, as I was taught by a very kindly woman in one of our Cambodian stores, the trick in selecting a good pomelo is to find one that feels very heavy for its size-sweeter and slightly juicier.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -going for the crispy bits.....are you sure you don't have some Burmese dna? I tell you they are mad for anything crispy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        -will shoot you an e-mail later and see if it gets through.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          geekmom RE: Allegra_K Oct 29, 2012 08:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I loved reading this too, please don't feel like you're clogging the board by writing about your experiments with this book!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have (so far) managed to be quite firm with myself about NOT buying this one, so I am waiting patiently for my library copy. Who knows when my turn will come up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Allegra_K RE: geekmom Oct 29, 2012 09:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for the kind words, geekmom, buttertart, qianning. You don't have to tell me twice; I'll keep updating!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Though this thread is getting rather lengthy. Perhaps a new one is in order.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ETA: Done!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              MelMM RE: Madrid Oct 10, 2012 07:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't think I'm at all qualified to rate the authenticity, as I have never been to Burma. And I'm not even sure how much I care about the authenticity. I do have one other book on Burma and the recipes look comparable, at least at a glance.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I also can't compare to the Oseland book, as I don't have it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                qianning RE: Madrid Oct 11, 2012 07:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                FWIW, Burmese food is its own thing, plus within the country there are many regional and ethnic differences in cooking, but the closes comparison for flavors/ingredients & etc is probably, to my mind anyway, Peninsular Malaysian food. Which makes sense, given similar climate, ingredients, geography & external influences. That said, Burma is a predominately Buddhist country, so lots of pork. And finally when you get into the dishes from the Shan area (which Duguid covers quite a bit), the closer cousins are probably southern Yuannanese and Northern Thai & Laos.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                herby RE: MelMM Oct 8, 2012 06:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MeIMM, thank you for your thoughts. Would you post your cooking experience once you have a chance to use the book?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  MelMM RE: herby Oct 10, 2012 07:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Will do, but I'm heading out of town tomorrow, so it will be a while.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. buttertart RE: buttertart Oct 8, 2012 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Nick malgieri's new book on bread arrived today and looks VERY good. I love Nick.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet RE: buttertart Oct 8, 2012 05:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the reminder! I just ordered it!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            angelsmom RE: buttertart Oct 9, 2012 01:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Last I looked on Amazon, it had not had a release date. The Tucci Cookbook arrived in my mail today. After the huge write up in last weeks NY times, I could not resist.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Gio RE: angelsmom Oct 10, 2012 07:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I couldn't resist The Tucci Cookbook either... now I'm eagerly awaiting my copy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. flourgirl RE: buttertart Oct 10, 2012 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I recently received "Baking Out Loud", which looks like a lot of fun, and has beautiful photos that really make me want to run into the kitchen and start making stuff. Too bad I can't do that quite yet,but it's giving me something to look forward to.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I also got "Saltie", which is a cookbook produced by the owners of a little sandwich and soup shop in Brooklyn. So far so good, I'm excited to try some of the recipes. Their recipes use a lot of house made pickles (mostly refrigerator pickles), sandwich spreads, and house baked foccacia and naan. I love making stuff like that, so I'm envisioning a day devoted to making the pickles and spreads and than making the sandwiches over the next few days. I've never really thought about putting together anything like some of these sandwiches before (for some reason, I have a real mental block when it comes to getting creative with sandwich making) so I find the book particularly appealing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. jpr54_1 RE: buttertart Oct 10, 2012 08:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              these arrived this week

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Kosher Southern-Style Cookbook-Covert and Gerson
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mexico One Plate at a Time-Bayless
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Rancho Gordo Heirloom Bean Growers Guide

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom RE: jpr54_1 Oct 10, 2012 08:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The very concept of a Kosher Southern Style cookbook has my head spinning.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  jpr54_1 RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 09:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  the recipes include kosher versions of grits,fried chicken, sally lunn cake, krab tacos, chapel hill chicken pie, bbq chicken and bbq sauce, hamish hoping john, red rice, okra soup

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  obviously no pork, seafood, etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet RE: jpr54_1 Oct 10, 2012 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We have frequent Muslim guests, and my husband, who's a southerner, will replace a ham hock with smoked turkey parts. Same would work for a kosher variation!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby RE: roxlet Oct 10, 2012 07:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I do the same smoked turkey replacement all the time asIi do not eat pork either.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        pikawicca RE: herby Oct 11, 2012 05:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I don't eat pork or turkey, so I use smoked tomatoes -- works great.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby RE: pikawicca Oct 11, 2012 05:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Amazing idea, Pika! I love to try but where do you get smoked tomatoes? I've never seen them in stores.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    nomadchowwoman RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 09:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We have a Kosher Cajun Deli here in NO, LM!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LulusMom RE: nomadchowwoman Oct 10, 2012 10:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Right, we have some kosher stuff here in Chapel Hill too, but mostly, mostly, they just love the pork and the shrimp. I mean LOVE it. Sometimes difficult for me to find something of interest on local restaurant menus. And you wouldn't call deli food southern, would you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        nomadchowwoman RE: LulusMom Oct 10, 2012 01:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        No, no, but I assume the cookbook applies Southern style to kosher foods, similar to the deli I'm talking about, which is (primarily) a typical Jewish deli, but it also serves kosher foods, cajun-style--gumbo, jambalaya, etc., minus the pork and shellfish, obviously. It seems there would be a market for such cookbooks, no? My colleague recently inherited her sister's cookbook collection, which included a few such books: the two I remember that stuck out to me as I was perusing it were a Kosher Italian and even one on Kosher Mexican.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: nomadchowwoman Oct 10, 2012 01:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I think there would be a big and growing market for such a cookbook, definitely!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Locally a new restaurant has opened - it is Spanish with a southern twist. In other words, Ham with bacon in a lard sauce.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  MmmDatGood RE: buttertart Oct 10, 2012 02:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've really been trying to avoid any further purchases. Last count (a few years back) I had more than a couple thousand cookbooks. (I know; out of control.) But when I find a really good one, I'll go for it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you're into canning, I highly recommend "250 Home Preserving Favorites" by Yvonne Tremblay (Robert Rose Series). It is very easy to follow and uses very unusual and delicious combinations of ingredients for jams, jellies, chutneys, salsas, etc., and even some using cocoa for those of us who love our chocolate. I can tell you from experience, they are wonderful. (Where do I keep all those jars?!?)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  There are also lots and lots and lots of very good recipes on the web, and they're free.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    AGM_Cape_Cod RE: MmmDatGood Oct 12, 2012 05:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks for the heads up. I am always looking for canning books especially with unusual ingredients. If you like chocolate have you tried the chocolate raspberry jam from Christine Ferber's Mes Confitures? Great for filling cookies and as one person I gave it to said 'eating straight out of the jar while standing at the fridge'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Quintious RE: buttertart Oct 10, 2012 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I almost never buy anything from The Good Cook, but they had a clearance sale yesterday that sucked me in for a number of books at great prices:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -Sausage - Birgit Hamm
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -Authentic Norwegian Cooking - Astrid Karlsen
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -The Big Book of Noodles - Vatcharin Bhumichitr
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -Salsas of the World - Marc Miller
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -The Cuban Kitchen - Rachel Roque
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -Simply Thai Cooking, 3rd edition\ - Wandee Young
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -Dutch Oven Cajun & Creole

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The only one that was more than 8 bucks was the Thai book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Westy RE: Quintious Oct 11, 2012 05:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Interested in your take on the Dutch Oven Cajun and Creole.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. The Dairy Queen RE: buttertart Oct 11, 2012 07:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Is it dumb to want the new Epicurious book, even though it's all online anyway?


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        emily RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 10:24 AM


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          honkman RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 02:26 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: honkman Oct 11, 2012 03:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            HA! One of you says no, the other yes. A part of me wants this book, but I know there's no way I should get it so I won't. For now.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dkennedy RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I know Epicurious has a lot of great recipes on their website, but I am not very good about looking through all the duds to get to the gems. That would be my reason for buying the book, (which I am not doing right now, btw).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Oct 12, 2012 01:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think I've gotten pretty good searching by user rating on Epicurious...


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 11, 2012 04:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I noticed today, during a down moment in Lulu's chattiness, that pepperpot lets you import epicurious recipes very nicely. I did a bunch of favorites from my recipe box there - it will be SO helpful at the grocery store when they end up being out of the main ingredient.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Anyway, going through that gave me some ideas of what to send you for quick meals (which I will likely do off-board, if that is ok with you).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 11, 2012 05:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Very kind of you, thank you. And then I can import them to my PP! I wish PP had more participating sites. I tried to cut and paste some JO recipes I found in the Guardian to PP. I'm so spoiled from the easy importing from food network experience that I was somewhat irritated by having to do all the C&P.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 02:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I know - that easy importing from epicurious is killer, isn't it? I was frustrated when trying to import a few yesterday too. But heck, for true family favorites (and if they are, why the heck can't I memorize what I need to buy to make them??) it is worth typing them in manually I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Disneyfreak RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 07:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Silly question: What is Pepperpot?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen RE: Disneyfreak Oct 12, 2012 07:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think she meant pepperplate. It's a free recipe database and meal planning software where you can add your own recipes or very easily import them from certain sites such as epicurious or food network.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: Disneyfreak Oct 12, 2012 08:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        oops! and yes, TDQ got it right. Sorry about that. I think pepperpot was a soup when I was growing up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 10:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  You can preview a lot of this Epicurious book on Amazon...


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  rasputina RE: buttertart Oct 11, 2012 08:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm lusting after

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Fäviken by Magnus Nilsson

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Japanese Farm Food- My daughter loves Japan but I already have a couple Japanese cookbooks we rarely use.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Oct 11, 2012 02:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I should not have done it but I did, I just purchased the folllowing:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mastering the Art of Baking by Anneka Manning
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Chloe's Kitchen by Chloe Coscarelli
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    and Betty Crocker's Christmas Book

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: Ruthie789 Oct 11, 2012 04:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Who is anneka Manning? Canadian???

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Oct 11, 2012 06:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        She is from Australia



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It is a very instructive cookbook with 280 recipes and each has an illustration. Basic techniques and as well more challenging ones.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: Ruthie789 Oct 11, 2012 07:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Uh oh. Want want want.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Westy RE: buttertart Oct 12, 2012 06:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Next up for me will be more vegetarian cooking. anyone tried:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Engine # 2 Diet
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Plenty - Ottolenghi
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. River Cottage Veg
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      4. The Vegetrian Option- Hopkinson

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Non Veg:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. 3 Good Things - River Cottage
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Masala Farm
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. Jerusalem- Ottolenghi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I also saw a vvery cool little book called : "What Chefs Feed Their Kids." http://www.amazon.com/What-Chefs-Feed...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen RE: Westy Oct 12, 2012 06:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have PLenty (which is a former COTM) and Hopkinson's Veg Option. I just wanted to point out that the latter isn't strictly vegetarian. It's vegetable-focused, but occasionally some chicken stock or something creeps into the recipes.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Westy RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 12, 2012 06:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's fine. In fact, I do that a lot (add stock). I simply found that when my meals are plant-cetnric, I feel better.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LulusMom RE: Westy Oct 12, 2012 08:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            There is a mushroom and bean recipe in Vegetarian Option that I absolutely loved. I served it over polenta and it was hearty and totally satisfying on a cold night.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Oct 12, 2012 08:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oh, that sounds really good right now.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          lilham RE: Westy Oct 12, 2012 07:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have Plenty and I love it. It's a former COTM like TDQ says. I also have River Cottage Veg and I don't think I liked anything I've cooked from it. Mr lilham in fact specifically requested me to not cook anything from it anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Gio RE: Westy Oct 12, 2012 07:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have "Plenty" and "Vegetarian "Option" too. Have cooked plenty from Plenty but nothing from VO yet. Am awaiting arrival of Jerusalem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Of the vegetarian books I've recently bought, " Vegetable Love" by Barbara Kafka and "Mediterranean Harvest: Vegetarian Recipes from the World's Healthiest Cuisine" by Martha Rose Schulman, the Schulman book seems to be getting quite a lot more use than the other so far. Many really tasty and serviceable recipes to round out a meal or act as a main dish. The Kafta book is encyclopaedic... not a bad thing. I seem to be using it as a reference.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen RE: Gio Oct 12, 2012 07:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That is also how I use the Kakfa book--as a reference.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                nomadchowwoman RE: Gio Oct 12, 2012 11:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That's how I feel about "Vegetables, Revised"--encyclopedic. So far, it's not all that appealing, format-wise. I haven't used it at all yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Disneyfreak RE: buttertart Oct 12, 2012 11:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              OMG - this post is dangerous! I've been looking up cookbooks on Amazon and adding them to my wishlist.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                flourgirl RE: Disneyfreak Oct 12, 2012 11:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Seriously dangerous. I've accumulated stacks of new books since buttertart started these threads & I'm just in the process of working my way through them now. I have a couple more new releases coming in Oct/Nov and than I just have to call it quits on any new purchases for a very long time. I could happily cook for the rest of my life from the books I have now and never get bored. I need to do some serious culling as well. I hate culling.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: flourgirl Oct 12, 2012 04:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah yeah, it's all my fault.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    flourgirl RE: buttertart Oct 13, 2012 06:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I hate taking responsibility for my extravagances. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Disneyfreak RE: flourgirl Oct 14, 2012 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm happy to have someone to blame for my shopping!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. flourgirl RE: buttertart Oct 12, 2012 11:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                One thing I'm really liking with many of the cookbooks that have come out recently is a movement away from dust jackets. I always thought they were kind of a nuisance.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. roxlet RE: buttertart Oct 12, 2012 03:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just received my copy of Nick Malgieri's new book called Bread. I would say that, in general, it breaks no new ground, but the material is extremely well-presented with lots of informative illustrations. I like that he also includes recipes of dishes/desserts (okay, puddings :} ) that can be made with left over bread. There are actually a couple of things I would like to make immediately, including a couple of breakfast pastries. One of the recipes that was completely new to me is one for cinnamon raisin bread wherein there is a separate cinnamon scented bread rolled within the regular bread giving almost a marble effect.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. geekmom RE: buttertart Oct 12, 2012 04:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Roxlet reminds me that I've been wondering about 'Tartine Bread' -- I searched the forums but it doesn't look like anyone's been talking about it. I was lucky enough to eat at Tartine a couple times when I was in SF recently and I fell in love with their products. I bought their first cookbook immediately after getting home. I read through the bread cookbook a week or two ago but wasn't 100% convinced that I should buy it as it retails for $46 here in Canada and seems not as comprehensive as The Bread Baker's Apprentice. That said, I haven't stopped thinking about this book...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet RE: geekmom Oct 13, 2012 07:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have Tartine bread, and have yet to bake from it. I always get hung up with lengthy and specific preferments, but I'm determined to bake from it this winter.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        geekmom RE: roxlet Oct 13, 2012 07:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I hope you'll post here & let us know how it goes when you try it. Some recipes do look quite complex!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: roxlet Oct 14, 2012 04:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have it too, and ditto on the not baked from it yet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        dkennedy RE: buttertart Oct 12, 2012 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My copy of Diana Kennedy's Tortilla book just arrived in today's mail. Bought it for the Enchilada DOTM thread. Hope to get to use it to make another e. recipe before the month is through.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. honkman RE: buttertart Oct 12, 2012 06:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Gran Cocina Latina
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Burma - Rivers of Flavor
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Vietnamese Home Cooking
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Modernist Cuisine at Home

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All arrived today at home. A lot to read once we are back from a short weekend trip to LA

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Gio RE: buttertart Oct 13, 2012 07:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Eagerly awaiting the following in the next week or two...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bistro Cooking at Home/Gordon Hamersley
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Holiday Dinners with Bradley Ogden
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Tucci Cookbook/Stanley Tucci

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              roxlet RE: Gio Oct 13, 2012 07:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I want to hear what you say about The Tucci Cookbook. I'd like to know if it covers any ground that seems special or unique, or if it's just a pleasant reworking of the classics. I don't think that I need any more general Italian cookbooks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Gio RE: roxlet Oct 13, 2012 08:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I fell in love with the NYT interview with Tucci and the embedded video of his family cooking together, then sitting down for lunch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I have read that there are recipes that have been passed down in his family for generations that were originated by family members but there's probably many family takes on traditional recipes as well. I do know there is a Tropiano ragu, that's his mother's maiden name.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Listen... anyone who has his wedding cake made of wheels of cheese and decorated with vegetables and fruit is bound to have a Very Interesting Cookbook.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Similar to these...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Plus I love his acting...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom RE: Gio Oct 13, 2012 08:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I liked that interview too, and it immediately made me wonder about the book. I'm trying to be at least *somewhat* austere in my cookbook buying habits lately, mostly because I'm not getting as much time to cook so it seems silly to overdo it by buying a lot. Still and all, hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Breadcrumbs RE: Gio Oct 13, 2012 02:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    one of my all-time favourite actors Gio. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the book, I saw it at the bookstore today and it definitely looks great!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart RE: roxlet Oct 14, 2012 04:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I had a look at it in Kinokuniya in the city today, looks good but groundbreaking, prolly not. Amazon look in the book firsst?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    angelsmom RE: Gio Oct 13, 2012 02:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    OMG, the Tucci book is divine. I am so glad I ordered it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    AGM_Cape_Cod RE: buttertart Oct 13, 2012 09:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Holiday Dinners with Bradley Ogden due to the discussion on the COM thread
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Simply Sensation Cookies by Nancy Baggett (always looking for new ideas for the holiday cookie boxes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    From the local library book sale ($5 for all three)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Szechuan Cooking-Chinese Regional Cuisine Series
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Homestyle Chinese Cooking by Yan-kit So
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    What's Cooking-Thai by Christine France

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Oct 13, 2012 01:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Purchased new (because I have absolutely zero willpower) and awaiting me on my return from vacation:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Gran Cocina Latina: The Food of Latin America by Maricel E. Presilla

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Burma: Rivers of Flavor by Naomi Duguid

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Jamie Oliver’s Great Britain

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Soup Sisters Cookbook

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Purchased while on vacation on the absolutely idyllic island of Antigua from one of the island’s most-loved cooks who sadly passed during our visit:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Cooking Magic by Gwen Tonge

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      …as a side note, I was captivated and inspired by this amazing woman’s story and thought I’d provide a link jic anyone else is interested:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Finally, from the thrift store on our return today:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A la di Sasio by Josee di Stasio

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Best of the Best from Tennessee Cookbook

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Weekday Wonders – Healthy Light Meals for Every Day by (the wonderfully talented) Rose Reisman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Chicken on the Grill by Cheryl & Bill Jamison

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Oct 14, 2012 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        BC; my mother bought Weekday Wonders to "give to me".. and then kept it for herself! I do like Rose Reisman, but I find that her portion sizes can be small..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Breadcrumbs RE: rstuart Oct 14, 2012 09:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The book looks great rstuart and I appreciate your "heads up" on the portion size. I just did a quick flip through the book and I see what you mean. I've actually made a note in the front to keep an eye out for this. Some recipes seem ok but others not so much. 8oz of pasta wouldn't cut it for 4 people as a main dish at our house (no meat or protein in the dish either). It's interesting because others call for 12oz to 1lb to serve 6. I didn't have time to do the math but she does provide full calorie break-downs for each recipe and I'm wondering if she's aiming to keep total calories from fat or carbs below a certain percentage relative to the total in the dish.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I do have her Light Pasta book and have made a number of those recipes with great success. What I especially like about her books is that most dishes come together very quickly and call for readily accessible ingredients.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. cityhopper RE: buttertart Oct 13, 2012 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lusting after Slater's Kitchen Diaries I & II and Real Fast Food, Bill's Everyday Asian, ATK's Cooking for Two 2012 and the Flavor Bible. These will likely be a nice Christmas gift to myself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby RE: cityhopper Oct 13, 2012 07:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The Flavour Bible has been on my wish list for a loooong time...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. herby RE: buttertart Oct 13, 2012 07:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Because of all of you wonderful seducers and enablers, I just received and can't wait to read and cook from:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Sunday Suppers at Lucques by Suzanne Goin
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Stir by Barbara Lynch
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3. Kitchen Playdates by Lauren Bank Deen
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          4. The Pleasure is All Mine by Suzanne Pirret

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And Holiday Dinners with Bradley Ogden is on its way....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            AOski RE: herby Oct 14, 2012 07:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "Stir" is one of our all time favorites. I don't think I've had (more less made) a better bolognese!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby RE: AOski Oct 14, 2012 07:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What are your other favourites? Love to write down recommendations from CHs on a sticky and always look at this first when deciding what to make.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              About bolognese; have you tried Hazan's? It is my favourite so far but I have not tried the one in Stir.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                dkennedy RE: herby Oct 14, 2012 08:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Herby I've posted my favorites for Sunday Suppers before. Do you need mine again or do you have those and are looking for others? If you want them, I'll happily repost.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Oct 14, 2012 08:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'd love them (again), if it's not too much trouble. Maybe you could add them to the book notes on EYB? Then they'd be easy to find again.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    herby RE: dkennedy Oct 14, 2012 08:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can't find them, DK :( Do you remember which thread you posted them in? I need a system to be able to find things here. If you kindly repost, I'll write your suggestions right away on a sticky and put it into the book which I now have. Feel like an idiot....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      dkennedy RE: herby Oct 14, 2012 09:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have them somewhere...typed them up as part of a wedding gift....just have to find them and I'll repost.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        dkennedy RE: dkennedy Oct 14, 2012 09:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        This book has served me well over the years. It is a special occasion cookbook. Many of the recipes are involved, and the instructions highly detailed, but the results are consistently outstanding. The steps in the recipes can be modified if you want something more homey.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        heirloom tomato salad with burrata, torn croutons, and opal basil, p. 135
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        chestnut stuffing, p. 371 (my Thanksgiving go-to recipe)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        devil's chicken thighs with braised leeks and dijon mustard, p. 326 (fantastic)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        kabocha squash and fennel soup with creme fraiche and candied pumpkin seeds, p 323 (mind blowing)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        persimmon and pomegranate salad with arugula and hazelnuts, p. 315
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        torchio with cauliflower, cavolo nero, currants, and pine nuts, p. 308 (special)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        chocolate sables, p. 236 (perfect results)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        one of two recipes I consistently use)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        endive salad with meyer lemon, fava beans, and olive cured olives, p. 37 (pretty)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I hope you enjoy cooking from it as much as I do!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        On my list to try:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Dad's steakhouse salad, p. 153
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        short ribs recipe, p. 301
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        brisket recipe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        NB: Sorry I had to repost this like 5 times to get it right. Now this list is right!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby RE: dkennedy Oct 14, 2012 10:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Many-many thanks DK for re-posting! I am writing it out immediately and will keep the sticky inside the book. I am also considering highlighting recipes in the indices of books that I have recommendations for but have not gotten over my "de-facing" phobia yet :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            dkennedy RE: herby Oct 14, 2012 02:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My pleasure. You will love, love, love this book. I hope my post didn't screw too many people up. I had to edit it 6 or more times so I am not sure when I do that if people get repeating emails re a new post. Whenever I try to cut and paste in a post, it seems to repeat and repeat within the post. Has that happened to any of yo? I never notice it until it is finalized so then I have to keep going back in until I get it right.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby RE: dkennedy Oct 14, 2012 03:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I find it difficult to write a lengthy post such as a book review in this small boxes. I would write in Word and copy/paste - works well for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Oct 14, 2012 04:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            thank you very much!


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              JoanN RE: dkennedy Oct 14, 2012 04:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Adding to dk's list:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've made the brisket. Note reads "may be best brisket ever."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The braised short rib recipe is extraordinary and the accompanying potato puree is as well and--ta-da--can be made ahead of time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Braised chicken with Saffron Onions, Italian Couscous, and Date has become one of my go-to dinner party dishes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Winter Squash [Kabocha] Risotto with Radicchio and Parmesan can be a meal unto itself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Made the Toasted Pain d'Epice with Kumquat Marmalade Butter for a dinner party one evening and found the 16-year-old sneaking back into the kitchen to saute the pain in butter and make himself a second helping. LOVE it when kids feel comfortable enough in my kitchen to help themselves.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Quintious RE: herby Oct 14, 2012 04:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm starting to think I should make a companion thread for "cooking one's way through holiday dinners..." given all the people that have bought it recently. It'd be a good time :).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. EWSflash RE: buttertart Oct 13, 2012 07:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    When we bought our first house I collected cookbooks obsessively. 20 years later, had to move them all. I don't really use cookbooks for recipes, more like guides, and some of the ones I bought were real turkeys, in retrospect. I want to get rid of many more, hoping to get a credit at the local used book emporium, but some will end up at my hospital's book sale because frankly, they're lame.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LindaWhit RE: EWSflash Oct 15, 2012 09:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      After I moved to my condo, I ended up donating several boxes to my local library. Yes, I moved them all and waited until after I moved to thumb through them and figure out which ones I wanted to keep. While I still have more than I probably should, these are the ones that are either sentimental or specific ones I use. I don't expect to be buying any new cookbooks any time soon. It will *really* have to grab me just right.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen RE: LindaWhit Oct 15, 2012 09:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I wish I had your willpower...


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LindaWhit RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 15, 2012 09:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Believe it or not, I even gave the library a copy of Vincent and Mary Price's "A Treasury of Great Recipes" from the 1960s, as I had bid on and won two copies on eBay awhile back. I explained to the librarian who handled donations the value of this one, and that they might not want to put it in their sale of books they won't catalogue and put on their shelves. She was very surprised to hear that he had written cookbooks, and liked the bit of a back story I gave her about them (finding out about the book on CH several years ago!).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen RE: LindaWhit Oct 15, 2012 09:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wow! Very generous of you. Hopefully someone in your library system will appreciate it!


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LindaWhit RE: The Dairy Queen Oct 15, 2012 10:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I hope so as well! I should check to see if it ever made it into their system. :-) :::Sadz::: Not seeing it in the entire area's library consortium.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                nomadchowwoman RE: LindaWhit Oct 29, 2012 03:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Very sad. Or maybe some lucky duck happened upon if they did offer it through the sale? But surely they didn't just sell it along with the "regular" books. I hope they got a nice contribution for it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              exvaxman RE: LindaWhit Oct 28, 2012 02:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm not giving up my autographed copy.......
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mom catered a dinner where Mr. Price came back to compliment the staff. It was a big joke because the two of them were friends from years back. I remember him, i do not remember his then wife at all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LindaWhit RE: exvaxman Oct 28, 2012 05:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                VERY cool that you have an autographed copy!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: exvaxman Oct 29, 2012 06:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  His then and always wife, I thought, Coral Browne?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LindaWhit RE: buttertart Oct 29, 2012 03:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No, he was married 3x. Coral Browne was his last wife. It was his second wife, Mary, with whom he wrote these cook/travel books. They divorced in 1974.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. buttertart RE: buttertart Oct 14, 2012 04:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          New thread here...Come on over!

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