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Five Banned Foods and One That Maybe Should Be

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zin1953 Sep 26, 2012 08:47 AM

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/food/...

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    Harters Sep 26, 2012 11:12 AM

    Generally speaking, I won't order foie gras and I'd take the view that consumer boycott is always preferable to something being banned by the authorities, except in extreme public health matters.

    I've not eaten horse meat but did see it on menus recently in northern Italy. They also had the rarer ingredient of donkey - so that's what I ordered

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      mpjmph Sep 26, 2012 02:34 PM

      The argument for banning consumption of roadkill is that the meat goes without inspection? By that logic, we should ban the consumption of meat and fish from recreational hunters and fishers.

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        mike0989 Sep 26, 2012 02:48 PM

        In part. It's also to guard against paoching. It's easy to claim that deer in your freezer was road kill if caught with out a tag or out of season.. The law is usally inforced by Fish and Game.

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          chowser Sep 26, 2012 02:51 PM

          The article says that road kill is NOT illegal. You can bring anything dead off the side of the road home and eat it.

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            kengk Sep 26, 2012 02:59 PM

            Not sure I would trust this article to be authoritative in all jurisdictions as to the legality of harvesting roadkill. On the other hand, how strict is the enforcement?

            My brother hit a deer in his car one time (so he knew it was fresh) and brought it home to butcher. Said there wasn't a hamburgers worth of meat that was not bruised and blood shot.

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              GH1618 Sep 26, 2012 03:06 PM

              Next time hit an elk. Or a bison.

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                chowser Sep 26, 2012 03:23 PM

                Apparently the journalist had no idea. Here's an article on it:

                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01...

                I guess it makes sense on poaching. Someone could run a cow over and take it home?

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                  kengk Sep 26, 2012 03:33 PM

                  When I was a little kid, back in the 60's there was a bounty on foxes in this county. As I recall it was .25 or .50 cents per ear which you had to turn in to get said reward. My grandfather had a rural mail route and he would relieve any road killed fox he saw of the ears and give them to me. We must have been rife with them because I remember getting several dollars out of the deal.

                  Being the evil little boy that I was I always admired our dachshunds ears and imagined how many "fox" ears I could make out of theirs. : )

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                  mpjmph Sep 27, 2012 08:32 AM

                  The laws definitely vary from state to state. The wiki article on Roadkill Cuisine gives a decent run down of various laws, and is also kind of hilarious... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill...

                  I haven't eaten roadkill (that I know of), but I did grow up in a house with roadkill bear skin rug.

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                    EricMM Sep 27, 2012 02:51 PM

                    I believe it is legal to keep deer that you hit in NYS, but I think you have to first report it. Did once see a guy sawing the head off a deer squooshy.......

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                      coll Sep 29, 2012 04:32 AM

                      You have to call the DEC and wait for them to come tag it. You can't just throw it in the back of your truck and take off. While you're waiting, yes some guys will start dressing it so the meat doesn't get ruined. It usually takes an hour or so for someone to show up.

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                    jw615 Sep 29, 2012 09:22 AM

                    Definitely not legal in all states. I used to do outdoor ed, and we would salvage roadkill to do dissections with students or to clean the bones and use for education. I had to have a permit to allow me to do this - I kept a copy of it in my 'roadkill collection kit' in my car.

                    Now, no one actually stopped and asked me for the permit, but you never know.

            2. Midknight Sep 27, 2012 05:49 AM

              So...why should the cheese be banned? Because the writer finds it disgusting? That's the only reasoning I was able to determine from that artcle. One man's garbage is another man's gourmet.
              Same with the horse meat. It should be banned because...it's wrong to slaughter horses? Playing devil's advocate here, but how would that be any different than the slaughtering or cattle or swine?
              This article seems nothing more than opinion, rather logical/appropriate arguments.

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                FoodPopulist Sep 27, 2012 08:41 AM

                It's not a food that should be banned, it's a food that is actually banned in the US.

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                  Bart Hound Sep 27, 2012 08:41 AM

                  My guess is that the ban has more to do with the fly larvae than it does with the disgusting factor. They want to make sure that the fly larvae and actual flies don't get into this country and potentially wreak havoc on crops or plants.

                  My guess anyhow.

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                    paulj Sep 28, 2012 09:48 PM

                    Mimolette is a French cheese with a mite-eaten crust. It can be bought in the USA.

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                      Harters Sep 29, 2012 02:43 AM

                      One of the really good cheeses of French Flanders - much tastier than the Edam it resembles. It's usually eaten quite young so you don't see the evidence of the mites (and they do brush them regularly to keep down the potential damage)

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                        cheesemaestro Sep 29, 2012 08:09 AM

                        Mimolette isn't the only cheese with a crust eaten by mites, although it is by far the best known one. I've eaten a cheese aged by the famous affineur, Pascal Beillevaire, called Grise des Volcans, which has a similar crust. There's also the German cheese, Milbenkäse.

                        For Mimolette, there's a wide range of aging. I find young Mimolette to be almost tasteless and prefer a really aged one (22-24 months). Still it's not a cheese I love. I've never understood the fondness the French have for it. It was Charles DeGaulle's favorite cheese.

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                          sunshine842 Oct 2, 2012 09:01 AM

                          I buy young Mimolette and grate it to use in place of Cheddar...you gotta do what you gotta do.

                          But I agree...it's not on my list of favorite cheeses.

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                            cheesemaestro Oct 2, 2012 02:16 PM

                            How about Cantal or Laguiole? Those are a little more cheddar-like than Mimolette.

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                              sunshine842 Oct 2, 2012 10:50 PM

                              Most times, yes -- but when the pups have a craving for Mexican, it's gotta be orange. (and I just couldn't bring myself to put a lovely Laguiole on a taco!!)

                              *shrug*

                              They eat bleu and Brie the rest of the time.

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                        cheesemaestro Sep 29, 2012 07:59 AM

                        Casu marzu is not legal for sale in Italy either, although it continues to be produced in small quantities in Sardinia. Apart from possible crop destruction if the cheese were to be imported, there's also the issue of myiasis, an infection caused by maggots. Once ingested, the larvae can, in rare cases, attach themselves to the wall of the intestine, where they may cause great pain and damage by attempting to bore through it.

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                          DeppityDawg Oct 2, 2012 08:58 AM

                          Cheese flies are already in the US. They pose no threat to crops, but they would definitely risk infesting other cheeses and meats in the same deli counter, or in your house.

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                          nokitchen Sep 29, 2012 08:49 AM

                          That, along with *maybe* roadkill for poaching prevention, is the only food on the list with even a tiny bit of justification for government interference. You never know what invasive species will catch on and wreak havoc in ways it didn't back in its place of origin.

                          There was a justification for banning raw milk in the early days of pasteurization, when knowledge of germs was limited and refrigeration rare. That justification is long past and it's now just a law to protect big agricultural interests.

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                            jpr54_1 Oct 2, 2012 08:33 AM

                            oka cheese from Canadan was banned at one time

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                              cheesemaestro Oct 2, 2012 02:15 PM

                              I'm not familiar with the ban on oka. Do you know why oka was once banned? It's now one of the relatively few Canadian cheeses available in the US.

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                                jpr54_1 Oct 2, 2012 03:09 PM

                                the cheese was made in monastery. I visited the monastery in Oka Que. many times

                                cheese, I believe used raw milk.

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