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Cincim Sep 19, 2012 10:26 AM

Headed to Montreal tomorrow and have reservations at Venti, 400 Coups, and Chien Fumant. Do restaurants in Montreal require a jacket for men? I've looked on websites but nothing indicates required formal attire.

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    Shattered Sep 20, 2012 06:33 PM

    With respect, I have to wonder where you are from, Cincim. I've never heard of such a thing outside of army messes and private clubs anywhere in my life. (And in Montreal, I've worked in offices where people could wear Habs jerseys and sweats any day of the week, lol)

    If you want something where formal is in the majority, though, Moishe's fits the bill, or The Keg at Place Ville Marie.

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      cherylmtl Sep 20, 2012 06:44 PM

      It's not uncommon in many cities to require jackets at higher-end restaurants - thankfully, this is becoming a thing of the past, but I have been to more than one restaurant (not in Montreal) that definitely required it. I believe the Beaver Club used to require them at one time, but I could be wrong.

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        Fintastic Sep 20, 2012 07:29 PM

        There are certainly places. Even in rather relaxed regions like Napa Valley there are a few restaurants that (used to/?) require jackets (I.e. etoile, French laundry, la Toque, etc).

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          InterFoodie Sep 22, 2012 08:51 AM

          In higher end establishments in Europe a jacket & tie is still required.

          Across North America not so much, although there are still a few.

          I believe that one needs not to dress up for a great meal, but whens it’s the policy I’m perfectly fine with it.

          Several places in Montreal use to practice this policy. The Ritz Carlton had a strict rule and once refused entry to Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones, because they weren’t wearing jacket & tie, even though they had rented a whole floor. They returned properly attired and were welcomed. They use to have jackets and ties on hand to offer, which were quite atrocious!

          I know I am probably going against the trend, but I think It actually raises the tone of the evening, dressing up and making a nice meal a special occasion.

          IMHO It’s much more pleasant to glance across a room and see people well-dressed enjoying their selves, than people in shorts, t-shirts and flip-flops.

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            Shattered Sep 22, 2012 01:01 PM

            @Cheryl: I think you're right about Beaver Club, jackets may still be required.

            @Fintastic: Um, doesn't French Laundry have 3 or 4 Michelin stars?

            @InterFoodie: Trust me, I'm with you on shorts and sandles.

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              Fintastic Sep 22, 2012 01:14 PM

              The culinary region of Napa was established, in many ways, as a response to East Coast commercialism and French-wine snobbery. French Laundry has the maximum 3 stars, but doesn't define the region (as much as it has tried). That is to say that there are plenty of places that still require men to wear jackets, even in places as subdued as Napa. Montreal I think is rather unique in that restaurants here which might receive Michelin stars if the Red Guide reviewed Canada do not seem to carry a similar formality. I've not worn a jacket to dinner at Toque, for example, and have still felt appropriate.

        2. TheSnowpea Sep 20, 2012 05:46 PM

          No, most places here are informal... you can show up in jeans and nice shirt and good shoes and not be turned away... (but my personal philosophy is more along the lines that each day is special so why not dress up for it! :)

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            johnnyboy Sep 21, 2012 07:50 AM

            I remember my entire family getting turned away from dinner at Les Filles du Roy because I wasn't wearing a jacket. I was 7 at the time... That was about 40 years ago, I assume they have changed their cretinous policy by now. Not that anyone seems to go there anymore...

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              Fintastic Sep 21, 2012 10:42 PM

              Any restaurant at which the waiters are required to dress in 18th century garb shouldn't require their clientèle to arrive in 20th century eveningwear.

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            Fintastic Sep 20, 2012 07:32 AM

            I actually can't think of a (public) restaurant in Montreal at which a jacket is required. At (Osteria?) Venti and 400 Coups you could feel comfortable wearing more formal attire or not. At Chien Fumant, however, I think I'd feel a bit awkward in formal dress.

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              Gloriaa Sep 20, 2012 02:10 PM

              I've only heard scathing reviews of venti please let us know if it has improved. Enjoy!

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                Glaff Sep 20, 2012 02:40 PM

                Don't know where you saw that... but, IMO, it's one of the best italian restaurant in town...

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                  Fintastic Sep 20, 2012 04:54 PM

                  Ya, that is strange. I've only read good things. However, I should note that the last 2 times I recommended Venti (for those keeping track), I meant to recommend Gaziella. Apparently my brain has assimilated the two...

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              PhilTG84 Sep 19, 2012 10:36 AM

              No. People here dress trendy/chique and often don't have jackets

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