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Bethcooks Sep 18, 2012 07:35 PM

I am planning to give the following gift to a young man [junior at university] who is a vegetarian: a pasta pot with a cooking lesson on pasta, a teflon pan with a cooking lesson on eggs and ???? I thought a lesson on tofu might be good but I can't think of an appropriate gift to accompany lesson?? Or maybe a lesson on something else with the emphasis on easy as he does not know how to cook anything. I am not a vegetarian so am stumped.

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  1. Tartinet RE: Bethcooks Sep 18, 2012 08:36 PM

    Beans lesson with a skillet! Soup lesson with a crock pot! Cooked-grain salads lesson with a salad bowl or rice cooker!

    Scope out some vegetarian cookbooks at the library for other ideas. Actually, a good vegetarian cookbook would be a great gift. Mark Bittman's How to Cook Everything Vegetarian would be a good start.

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      hill food RE: Tartinet Sep 19, 2012 12:00 AM

      that is an excellent book. it's encyclopedic and describes the nature of the ingredients and techniques, which fosters understanding and improvisation.

      it's better than any class really, since those are all usually single dish centric (I'd make the pasta class one on hand-rolling, not so much the specific sauce)

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        sr44 RE: Tartinet Sep 19, 2012 12:35 AM

        And available as a smartphone app. It's really handy to use that way because it will generate a shopping list and has built-in timers to use as you work your way through a recipe.

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          hill food RE: sr44 Sep 19, 2012 12:49 AM

          technology is my new god. one of these days I'm gonna get me one of them pocket prophets.

          (but seriously) that is one of the few 'apps' I've heard of that makes a lot of sense. there's so much pointless junk out there. that would be useful. unless the fingers were covered in sticky dough when the timer got anxious.

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            sr44 RE: hill food Sep 19, 2012 12:53 AM

            That would really facilitate bonding with your gadget.

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              hill food RE: sr44 Sep 19, 2012 01:06 AM

              I hear plastic wrap around the gadget helps, yet I'm a skeptic.

              re-reading this I see how this could be interpreted badly.

              back on topic - yes Bittman in whatever media is a great vegetarian resource.

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                Bethcooks RE: hill food Sep 19, 2012 05:02 PM

                Thanks for all the great ideas. I think a crockpot and a vegetarian cookbook is the way I will go. He does not know how to boil water so I think the Bittman might be overwhelming???? Maybe a child's vegetarian cookbook with pictures, if there is such a thing. : ) A crockpot vegetarian book might be good. He doesn't like beans : ( so I could use some ideas for vegetarian cooking in a crockpot.

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                  Bethcooks RE: Bethcooks Sep 19, 2012 05:06 PM

                  Second thought on cookbook: Maybe a vegetarian soup cookbook as a starter to go with crockpot?

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                    hill food RE: Bethcooks Sep 19, 2012 05:50 PM

                    Bittman's really isn't overwhelming and doesn't necessarily involve advanced techniques. it's written in a straight forward and even conversational tone that explains things like why (for instance) the differences between long and short grain rice and how they're used.

                    it is a bit thick, but makes for good bedtime or study break reading or (and this will sound gross) since the recipes are short, bathroom time reading (hey sometimes there are no short story anthologies or Bukowski around the house)

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                    sr44 RE: hill food Sep 19, 2012 06:15 PM

                    Yes, or a plastic bag.

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                      hill food RE: sr44 Sep 19, 2012 07:45 PM

                      heh, I'm cross-reading posts and it took me a moment but chuckling over where my confusion and imagination took me, but I see now. yes, friends who use IPads and tablets in the kitchen do often use ziplock type things.

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                        lcool RE: hill food Sep 20, 2012 07:44 AM

                        so far a zip-lock is working
                        speaking as a brand new 10" tablet owner,user

                        cling wraps were (?) ,just once before I die I would love to pull a piece of cling wrap and have it BEHAVE and perform just like the adverts on TV

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                          sr44 RE: lcool Sep 20, 2012 07:25 PM

                          Hah! When pigs fly.

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                            lcool RE: sr44 Sep 21, 2012 05:04 AM

                            no doubt

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                          kubasd RE: hill food Sep 20, 2012 09:54 AM

                          haha! same here, hill food!

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                John Francis RE: Tartinet Sep 20, 2012 08:28 AM

                Bittman's recipes work, they are straightforward using common ingredients (not necessarily true of vegetarian cookbooks), and he begins with chapters on ingredients, equipment, and techniques that are just the thing for a beginning cook.

                As for lessons, I should think these are more effective when you see how an experienced cook works than just from reading. YouTube is full of videos to show how it's done - too full, actually, it can be confusing. So you might give the young man the links to videos you select yourself, on basic techniques like knife skills. There are lots to choose from, and you can choose the videos you think show and tell the technique best. For example:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDcd2J...

              3. Hank Hanover RE: Bethcooks Sep 19, 2012 05:52 PM

                I'm not a vegetarian either. Consequently, I would be tempted to hope he can find a vegetarian instructor and look for a different gift.

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                  APK_101 RE: Bethcooks Sep 19, 2012 05:56 PM

                  How about an enameled dutch oven and a lesson on cooking beans? Or a sheet pan and roasted veggies? I'm a vegetarian and that's what comes to mind as staples of my diet. And that is a GREAT gift idea.

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                    Bethcooks RE: APK_101 Sep 19, 2012 07:19 PM

                    APK-101 He doesn't eat beans but the sheet pan with roasted vegetables is a great idea. Hank Hanover - I would if I knew anyone who is a vegetarian who cooks!!! He has been eating boxed macaroni and cheese since school began.
                    I think I will get the Bittman's vegetarian cookbook out of the library and take a good look at it. Sheet pan does sound like the way to go - lesson would be easy for him.

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                      APK_101 RE: Bethcooks Sep 19, 2012 07:44 PM

                      Good luck!

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                        Hank Hanover RE: Bethcooks Sep 19, 2012 11:05 PM

                        Sorry... I just have a basic disagreement with vegetarians. I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to graze. I have sharp meat eating teeth. I don't have flat teeth and a long neck to stick between the barbed wire fence.

                        I guess you could give him a pot with a lid and a recipe for lentils and rice. I understand you can live on it.

                        Me, personally I would get a burger out every time i saw him and tell him how good it was.

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                          APK_101 RE: Hank Hanover Sep 20, 2012 10:19 AM

                          Well I've got no problem with you, so I guess that makes one of us. :)

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                        cheesecake17 RE: APK_101 Sep 20, 2012 06:08 PM

                        Sheet pan for veggies is a great idea. Include a butternut squash, cutting board, and a knife to get him started.

                      3. Emme RE: Bethcooks Sep 19, 2012 11:21 PM

                        A wok to make stir-fries with the tofu.

                        A small toaster oven to make individual servings of things like eggplant or portabello parmesan stackers (bread sliced eggplant, or mushrooms, tomato, onion, etc in bread crumbs, a little cornmeal, i use a little TVP for protein, herbs, etc stack and toast); easy but easily elevated melts; toasted polenta squares etc

                        Teach him how to make polenta -- to use soft or firmed and toasted (see above)

                        Couscous is soooo easy and so versatile.

                        I'd teach him how to make marinades and salad dressings as well... nothing like homemade.

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                          Bethcooks RE: Emme Sep 20, 2012 07:16 AM

                          Emme - The couscous is a good idea as I think he likes that but I am not sure about the polenta. He doesn't eat parmesan as that is not vegetarian because it contains rennet. [I discovered that 75% of cheeses in the USA contain rennet and the % is even higher for other countries. ] Hank - I know exactly what you are saying. In this young lad's case I would say it almost borders on an eating disorder as he will not eat so many things that vegetarians eat.

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                            Emme RE: Bethcooks Sep 20, 2012 08:20 PM

                            you don't have to do parmesan in polenta. there are plenty of cheeses that don't contain rennet, or you can use some nutritional yeast. or use neither and just use herbs and a little extra butter or earth balance. or add some pureed vegetables...

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                              Bethcooks RE: Emme Sep 21, 2012 06:21 AM

                              Actually he looked into this and 75% of the cheeses in USA are made with rennet so now he refuses to eat cheeses except for cream cheese and other soft cheeses not made with rennet. I do think he would eat herbs and butter as he likes that kind of thing on pasta. Nutritional yeast is new to me???? Is it just for adding additional nutrition?

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                                lcool RE: Bethcooks Sep 21, 2012 09:06 AM

                                Is he aware not all RENNET etc for cheese is animal sourced? There is plant derived rennet,Kosher and vegetarian certified for cheese.

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                                  cheesecake17 RE: Bethcooks Sep 21, 2012 10:11 AM

                                  Nutritional yeast is a beige, flaky, almost powdery vegan ingredient. It's used to add a "cheesy" flavor.

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                                    Bethcooks RE: cheesecake17 Sep 21, 2012 02:17 PM

                                    Thanks cheesecake12, that is helpful as I knew nothing about nutritional yeast. I will tell him about it. Can you use it in, for example, omelets? Personally will go on eating the real stuff. : )

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                                      cheesecake17 RE: Bethcooks Sep 24, 2012 05:30 PM

                                      I've used it on scrambled eggs. My favorite way to use it is mixed with cornflake crumbs and cornmeal as a breading for eggplant or zucchini. Most commonly it's used to make vegan cheez sauce. Tasted it, but not for me!

                          2. biondanonima RE: Bethcooks Sep 20, 2012 10:27 AM

                            I would go with a good knife and sharpener, a cutting board and a knife skills lesson. Most non-cooks I know have HORRIBLE knives and non-existent knife skills, which makes cutting up even something as soft as zucchini a major chore. If the kid is a vegetarian, he needs to eat vegetables instead of an endless parade of processed carbohydrates, and he'll never eat them if he doesn't know how to prepare them. Start with basic knife skills and finish by showing him how to turn all of that lovely chopped produce into an easy stirfry.

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                              Bethcooks RE: biondanonima Sep 20, 2012 02:03 PM

                              I do think a good knife is basic and a great gift. What knife would you suggest as a starter knife? Paring knife? Or maybe a chef's knife? I love my santoku. There is a Victorinox paring knife on Amazon for a very good price. CI gives it a good review but I have no personal experience with it. I have some hesitation about giving him a really good knife as he lives with 3 other guys and knives have to be cared for and not thrown in a drawer with other stuff or put in the dishwasher, etc.

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                                biondanonima RE: Bethcooks Sep 20, 2012 02:09 PM

                                I would go with a chef's knife - paring knives are useful for small and specific jobs but I would say I do 90% of my knife work with a chef's knife. My favorite one is the 10" extra-wide Wusthof, but I agree that buying him anything that nice is a mistake if it's just going to get tossed in the dishwasher. I would go with the Victorinox Chef's Knife that CI recommends - I don't own one but I've used one and I think it's a solid knife at a bargain price.

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                                  Bethcooks RE: biondanonima Sep 20, 2012 07:20 PM

                                  Thanks - I too, was thinking the best knife would be the chef's knife. The cutting board would be good also as he would ruin the knife fairly quickly without it.

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                              elkahani RE: Bethcooks Sep 20, 2012 08:17 PM

                              a bag of jerky and a lesson on manhood

                              jokeing aside tofu normaly is pressed and drained since it's stored in liquid so a strainer and a brick.

                              defintly knife skills

                              and real book on nutrition alot of people go veggy head without a clue how to eat vegitarian corectly for complete nutrition. he should take the nutrition class offered to freshmen as well.

                              a buch of seasonings some veg stuff like say rice and beans is well bland and spices and such can get pricy on a college budget

                              a book on makeing bread this is a staple for some vegatarians

                              his own knife and cutting board so he doesn't have to use tools that have had meat and such touching them. (check regs some schools forbid weapons including cooking stuff)

                              lessons on makeing sald dressings

                              a good walop on the back of the head for letting girs make him vegitarian haha

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                                Bethcooks RE: elkahani Sep 21, 2012 06:15 AM

                                Comment on wallop on back of head - too funny. I honestly feel like doing that sometimes. He just moved this year, into his "own" place with 3 other guys so no worry about dorm regulations. I think I will go with the pot [already purchased] with a pasta lesson; the teflon pan with some appropriate utensils, with a lesson on preparing all kinds of egg dishes [omelet, scrambled eggs, etc]; and the Victorinox chef's knife, cutting board and flat pan with a lesson on roasting vegetables and using a knife. Would like to get a cookbook too but that may have to be a Christmas present.

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                                  sr44 RE: Bethcooks Sep 24, 2012 06:04 PM

                                  Not to beat a dead horse, but I think the iPhone/iPad app is about $5, and I see there's a free subset. Of course, if he doesn't have a smartphone, we should bury the horse quietly.

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                                Willa RE: Bethcooks Sep 24, 2012 06:13 PM

                                I gave my college age son the large All-Clad skillet, a collection of spices, and a Rick Bayless cookbook. He loved it!

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