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marblebag Sep 18, 2012 06:11 PM

Taisho and Sakagura alternatives

I have 3 lunches and 3 dinners left in NYC this week yet I just want to return to Taisho and Sagakura. It's probably because the Japanese selection in Montreal is so terrible that I 'love' these two.

Where else should I go for Japanese? I am not a raw fish eater. I am thinking of trying a kaseiki (Kyo Ya, Sugiyama, Brushstroke) and ramen (Minca, Setagaya, Rai Rai Ken).

I have a reservation at Ko for Saturday lunch.

I,ve already been to Momofuku Noodle, Mentui Kei, Mechanko and Ippudo.

Merci

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    marblebag Sep 20, 2012 04:05 PM

    I tried Soba Koh and I like it as much as Sagakura's but I don't know why one would be better. I had the Toroniku Ramen with 'basic pork' broth at Minca and it was really good. I will be back to try the chicken n pork broth. Robataya was surprisingly good especially the buttery cod fillet.

    Thank you for all the suggestions.

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      Ricky Sep 19, 2012 12:54 PM

      Tori Shin is a huge step up over Taisho.

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      1. re: Ricky
        kosmose7 Sep 19, 2012 02:37 PM

        +1 Torishin. Hands down the best yakitori in New York.

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        Bkeats Sep 19, 2012 12:12 PM

        Its not in Manhattan, but an interesting place to check out would be Zenkichi in Williamburg.

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          kathryn Sep 18, 2012 08:18 PM

          Don't forget Takashi (yakiniku).

          What about Soto? They are known also for their cooked & non-sushi dishes in addition to their sushi/raw fish.

          If it's for this week, I'd make a reservation ASAP for Kyo Ya's kaiseki, if you want to dine there. I know they also have a walk-ins only chef counter, but I'm not sure if you can get the kaiseki without arranging it beforehand.

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            foodwhisperer Sep 18, 2012 09:55 PM

            Kyo Ya is tough these days for walk-ins, even at the bar or chef counter. You can;t get the kaiseki menu without pre-arranging it, but you can put together your own a la carte kaiseki dinner. I actually prefer that.

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            foodwhisperer Sep 18, 2012 07:53 PM

            Kyo Ya or Kajitsu or Brushstroke are on a much higher level cuisine than the others mentioned.
            En is a good option and less expensive in a nice setting, the fresh tofu is really good there.
            I agree also with Pravit on Soba Koh as something different than the others mentioned and it is better than Soba Ya.
            Robataya would be a terrific choice for you , the grilled fish, meat and veggies are superb and the rice dishes are among the best.
            I would cross Setagaya off your list and since you have been to Ippudo already perhaps Misoya would be good for some Hokkaido style ramen.
            An interesting alternative might be either Greenwich Grill or Basta Pasta both with Japanese chefs but not Japanese cuisine, just Japanese inspired.
            Since you mentioned some Korean owned places above, perhaps you would want to try an amazing meal of small dishes at Jungsik

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              pravit Sep 18, 2012 07:08 PM

              Ootoya does a great teishoku (set meal) - you get a main dish as well as rice, soup, various pickles and veggies, and steamed eggs. The mackerel and pork tonkatsu are my favorites there but everything I've had is good.

              I'd also try the cha-kago set or lunch special at Cha-An, another place for set meals I really like.

              If you like soba try Soba Koh or Cocoron.

              EN Japanese is also a nice place for teishoku meals.

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