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  1. From the website:

    GANGSTER BURGER IS A TOAST TO THE BAD GUYS. A TOAST TO THE GUYS THAT WE DREAMED OF BECOMING WHEN WE GREW UP. A TOAST TO THE GUYS WHO DID IT THEIR OWN WAY.

    HERE AT GANGSTER BURGER, WE'RE KEEPING TRUE TO THE GANGSTER PHILOSOPHY. IF THE PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING A GOOD F@$%IN' BURGER WITHOUT ALL THE MUMBO JUMBO, THEN WE'RE GOING TO SUPPLY IT.

    AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OUR WAY.

    IT'S A NEW DAY AND WE'RE THE NEW BOYS IN TOWN. NO PRIESTS. NO HEROES. JUST GANGSTERS.

    AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU A BURGER YOU CANT REFUSE.

    Can someone explain to me why we should be toasting drug dealers and murderers?

    Hopefully this exercise in tastelessness signals the end of the burger craze, because after this, there's nowhere else to go. We've hit bottom.

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    1. re: dxs

      Looks like a bunch of old Italian guys to me.

      1. re: dxs

        Wow, that ranks right up that with Pink Burger as worst burger joint concept ever. Pink Burger lasted less than a year.

        1. re: dxs

          Its right by work. They are open now. Along with Thai Express across the street.

          ...I am sadface we didn't get anything more interesting in this latest turn-over.

          1. re: jlunar

            who says there won't be another turn over ;)

            all being said, i think it's actually really funny that they're referencing priest and hero. i'm dubious that mumbo jumbo might mean moist and nicely cooked meat but i'm pretty sure they're at least not doing pressed lean mushroom filler burgers. i might try one really soon... i might wait for the inevitable group buying coupon.

            1. re: pinstripeprincess

              I may almost have to check it out after all this... they'll have to try pretty hard to beat Holy Chuck for me.

              Then again, if they do, their proximity to work will not benefit my waistline.

          2. re: dxs

            I thought that Pink Burger fiasco was rock bottom? Guess not....

            1. re: pakmode

              No, Pink Burger was rock bottom. I see Gangster Burger as being in the same dark pit pawing around looking for the bottom though.

              DT

          3. Gangster goo? I think I'm going to be sick. What MBA comes up with this stuff?

            Wow...

            1. lol, I don't mind what the name as much as others do, but saying that they're a terrible restaurant just because they're named after murderers and criminals is just like saying Burger Priest is terrible because it's named after child molesters. What matters is the burger! That being said, I do avoid Weezie's for the name, so, to each their own. I don't find GB's name offensive - just gimmicky - but so what? "Pink Burger" was a horrid name. GB, although somewhat silly isn't nearly as offensive, IMO. And perhaps this is all for not, and their burgers are horrible anyway...
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              1. re: justxpete

                I'm not sure that anyone is saying the food is terrible because the name is stupid. Personally, I just think it's a stupid "concept". But I hate high concept restaurants in general when they just don't make any sense. What do gangsters have to do with burgers? What do the names of gangsters have to do with the burger toppings? And more importantly, why don't they have just a simple burger on their menu? Why would I want to put something called "gangster goo" on my burger?

                If they have good burgers and good service at a decent price, I'm sure they will succeed. But the names and the kitsch do nothing for me. Even Holy Chuck uses names that actually bear some relation to the burger's ingredients.

                1. re: TorontoJo

                  Yes, it's ironic that they tout "...A GOOD F@$%IN' BURGER WITHOUT ALL THE MUMBO JUMBO" yet it's all thematic names that have no relation to what the burger is (as you pointed out) and no simple burger without the mumbo jumbo...

                  1. re: jlunar

                    I agree J. The word "WITHOUT" has 3 too many letters in it.

                    DT

                    1. re: jlunar

                      BTW j, I sent them an email last week asking what "Mumbo Jumbo" they were talking about since all their burgers seem to be full of "Mumbo Jumbo."

                      So far, no reply.

                      DT

                      1. re: Davwud

                        Waiting with bated breath. Or something.

                    2. re: TorontoJo

                      Sounds like it's the employment of a philosophy - also, I'm not sure how the "holy" part of "holy chuck" has any relation to the burgers themselves.

                      /Edit and I think "Can someone explain to me why we should be toasting drug dealers and murderers? Hopefully this exercise in tastelessness signals the end of the burger craze, because after this, there's nowhere else to go. We've hit bottom." is indeed a pretty severe condemnation.

                      1. re: justxpete

                        Oh, don't get me wrong, I think Holy Chuck and Burger's Priest are stupid names, too. :o) But Holy Chuck makes a good burger, and the "theme" doesn't carry into the atmosphere or decor in the restaurant itself. So I can forgive/ignore the name.

                        And as jlunar points out above, the whole "burger without the mumbo jumbo" statement on their homepage is so laughably ironic that it's on the verge of being satire. Which is maybe what they were going for?

                        Anyway, I hope the burgers are good and we can forget the stupid marketing concept.

                        1. re: TorontoJo

                          Ha. I agree with the glaring contradiction - it's pretty silly - but everyone needs a theme, some are just better than others... but they can't all be called "burger shop" or "chicken store".

                          And I think the name does carry in to Holy Chuck burgers.. I just think you might be making the wrong association. It's not so "holy", per se...

                      2. re: TorontoJo

                        Agreed, T.O. Jo. Even if they make a good burger, this "concept" seems distracting at best.

                        Questionable marketing, IMO.

                        But make sure to keep an eye out for my new restaurant concept: PM's Chicken, a salute to all our great Prime Ministers who loved eating those Rotisserie birds!

                        The Robert Borden on a Bun Special will be a huge hit, no doubt.

                        1. re: kwfoodiewannabe

                          I'm looking forward to the Mackenzie King Talking Chicken Wrap.

                      3. re: justxpete

                        I'll give them a chance - no different than Holy Chuck or Burgers Priest and their schticks...
                        That being said, after some investigation and seeing some pics i noticed the owners probably do think they're gangsters ( ie the homey'ish kind) , they even got Drake to do the opening.
                        Either way, if it's a good burger i'm down as there isn't a ton i'm fond of around there and it IS on my way home from work ; )

                        1. re: dannyboy

                          I was under the impression Drake grew up in Forest Hill.

                          1. re: prima

                            Hah, he did, he went to my high school. "Gangster."

                      4. This thread is making my brain melt. For the love of pete, someone try the actual burger and let's stop talking about the (admittedly stupid) concept, a discussion which has been run into the ground in just a few hours.

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                        1. re: Michael N

                          lol, Amen.

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                          1. re: justxpete

                            Agree, for Pete's sake...

                        2. walked by today. my problem with that place is they don't have any seating and they clearly have room for it. Even the OG Burgers Priest location has 3 seats by the window!

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                          1. re: c_snapper

                            with the possible exception of the Lucas, there's nothing on that list that looks remotely good.

                            - "smoked provolone , sautéed mushrooms and onions, roasted red peppers in a marinara sauce. Finished with garlic aioli lettuce and tomato." - seriously?

                            unless i hear some rave reviews, i won't be setting foot inside this place until it changes concepts in 3 months

                            1. re: downtownfoodie

                              They call their spicy ketchup "Gangster Goo". Gross.

                              1. re: downtownfoodie

                                Downtownfoodie, you might want to rethink that statement about the Lucas burger.... check out their twitpic.... it has what they call "blue magic", so it is pretty safe to assume that it is the top left burger.

                                 
                                1. re: Derksen

                                  Oh, the humanity!

                                  1. re: Derksen

                                    You know, I was going to take one for the team, but this isn't helping.

                                    1. re: jlunar

                                      Likewise. I don't think I can bring myself to either, after seeing that.

                                      And remember, I reserved judgement... lol!

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                                      1. re: jlunar

                                        Double-Chowhound-dare you to take the Blue Magic for the team, jlunar!

                                        ;-)

                                        1. re: jlunar

                                          Hey

                                          I leaned into the strike zone with Taco Time and just a couple weeks ago with Billy Jack's but not this time.

                                          J??

                                          DT

                                          PS, at least Billy Jack's has potential.

                                        2. re: Derksen

                                          Oh man, I thought you were all over reacting about the "bad concept" until I saw that blue sauce!

                                          Ha, still curious for "someone" to try this!

                                          1. re: Derksen

                                            blue magic / soylent green...
                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VF...

                                            1. re: Derksen

                                              is the blue stuff gangster goo?

                                              1. re: shekamoo

                                                The gangster goo is their spicy ketchup. Because nothing's more appealing than goo on your burger!

                                        3. Mmmhm. So usually, I'd get the most basic burger I could get, but hey, blue sauce! Caveat: I'm no burger aficionado, so I may not know what I'm talking about.

                                          Thankfully, the blue sauce isn't as blue as their promo photo. I was only told that it's a "cheese sauce" (the rest is secret), but there's a blue cheese taste to it. With garlic. Blue cheese aioli or something?

                                          Bread is huge and a bit (tiny bit) on the dry/stale side. But it dwarfs my patty. I ditched the bun at the half-way point.

                                          They have a flat-top in there and it's a smash-style buger... but not. Those who love Priest's style of burger... this is not it. Patty is solid/thick, but beef-taste isn't strong enough for me - and it has a slightly sweet taste to it. I would also like a slightly higher fat ratio in there. Nice crust. I dunno.

                                          Fries... skip the fries. Too much garlic salt or something to that effect.

                                          Overall, the taste is okay, and I don't totally regret eating this. I was expecting far worse after that photo of blue sauce. But once is enough! I'll stick with Holy Chuck. My co-worker says Hero Burger is better. I've not eaten at any of the burger places around here so... there you are.

                                          The end.

                                           
                                           
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                                          1. re: jlunar

                                            haha. You actually had the blue stuff!?! My, you're brave. Good on ya!

                                            1. re: justxpete

                                              Let me just add my 3 cents - WTF?

                                            2. re: jlunar

                                              Hero Burger is better? Ayyy!

                                              1. re: jlunar

                                                Wow yeah, the bun to meat ratio is totally off. It even looks a bit dry/stale from the pic :)

                                                Thanks for trying it out though!

                                                1. re: jlunar

                                                  Hero Burger is better???

                                                  ROFLMAO
                                                  ROFLMAO
                                                  ROFLMAO

                                                  Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Mercy

                                                  DT

                                                  <Picks himself back up off the floor and tries to comprehend just how bad this place is>

                                                  1. re: Davwud

                                                    The saddest thing about that is that just because Hero is better to that person, doesn't mean this place is all that bad. For some reason, some how, I can't even begin to imagine one reason, there are people who love Hero Burger burgers. People in my office - "Awesome - Hero Burger is opening down the street"! There are two items in Toronto that I refuse to eat and would rather starve to death - Ribs at Lou Dawgs on King and Burgers at Hero anywhere.

                                                    1. re: justsayn

                                                      "two items in toronto that I refuse to eat and would rather starve to death" - do I smell a new thread idea...:)?

                                                      (just about anything from Spring Rolls and the hot dog eclair I saw at The Ex this year)

                                                      1. re: peppermint pate

                                                        Funny - I thought that when I wrote it!!! HAHA

                                                        Hot Dog Eclair?!?!!?!?!

                                                        1. re: justsayn

                                                          http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=hot+dog...

                                                          1. re: peppermint pate

                                                            WOW - that really takes the cake - pardon the pun!

                                                            All time low for Ex foods. But I really think it is a cool angle for the Ex - to have crazy food concoctions. Adds a lot of fun and interest to something that needs such injections! Next year - fried battered pulled pork with chocolate sauce.

                                                        2. re: peppermint pate

                                                          See, I can stomach SR although it has been 4 or 5 years since I've been...and there are other places I can stomach.....but those ribs and burgers to me are poison! LOL

                                                          1. re: justsayn

                                                            Brilliant idea for a thread, you two! There's so much stuff I wouldn't eat.. it's hard to narrow it down to just a few dishes. ha.

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                                                        3. re: justsayn

                                                          Nothing wrong with the veggie burger at Hero, justsayn. That's what I get when I'm starving and Hero is the only option. ;-)

                                                          1. re: prima

                                                            I won't eat a veggie burger but the thing with the "Beef" patty is it tastes like a grease soaked sponge. The texture is all wrong and it just tastes fatty. Not in a good way. Not at all.
                                                            Honestly, I'd eat my dog's food before I'd eat there again. Hell, I'd eat my dog before I ate there again. And he's my baby.

                                                            DT

                                                            1. re: Davwud

                                                              Ha. I trust your judgement re: the Hero beef burger.

                                                              The Hero Soul Burger tastes better than the Richtree Marche beef burger (which is located a few doors from Hero at York Mills & Bayview). Hero's Soul Burger is also better than the off-tasting South St burger I ordered at Bayview Village. Wish they'd never replaced the A & W with that South St Burger location!

                                                              1. re: prima

                                                                :( I miss that A&W.

                                                              2. re: Davwud

                                                                Davwud... those 3 words...

                                                                That was EXACTLY my characterization of the HERO burger when I tried it.

                                                                Grease soaked sponge. You nailed it.

                                                                1. re: kwfoodiewannabe

                                                                  Have you ever seen my post after my very first visit??

                                                                  DT

                                                                  1. re: Davwud

                                                                    No, I don't think so...

                                                                    1. re: kwfoodiewannabe

                                                                      The store in question is still in business.

                                                                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/320741

                                                                      A couple years ago I gave it (different store) one more chance. It was every bit as bad as I had remembered.

                                                                      DT

                                                                      1. re: Davwud

                                                                        waiting for Allen Funt... hilarious!

                                                                  2. re: kwfoodiewannabe

                                                                    Nailed it for sure! "Grease soaked sponge" Can I add one word? "Grease soaked dirty sponge"

                                                            2. re: Davwud

                                                              I know, I know! But it's all I got to relate it to in the area. I asked about Burger Press and he could draw a direct comparison b/c all he's had was the falafel burger.

                                                              Personally, I think i would eat at Gangster Burger before Hero. But in all cases, I'd just rather walk down to Bahn Mi Boys, really.

                                                              1. re: jlunar

                                                                Just had BMB for lunch and was thoroughly awestruck. Loved, loved, loved it.

                                                                DT

                                                                1. re: Davwud

                                                                  Yay - post a report on the BMB thread (please)!!!!!!!

                                                                  1. re: peppermint pate

                                                                    Done

                                                                    DT

                                                                2. re: jlunar

                                                                  I'm still going to try it but only the Don C - which you can customize yourself...
                                                                  will report back when i do...

                                                            3. I was there on Saturday and had the Lucas burger.

                                                              Totally agree with jlunar, far too much bun vs burger. The patty was more like a burger ball. And I doubt it was 6oz, more like 4. The bacon was brutal: it was pre-cooked and then reheated on the flat top - ended up shattering when you bit into it.

                                                              Skip the fries, overseasoned with some sort of weird spice mix.

                                                              I live in the neighbourhood, so I'll give them one more try (burger only though). Hoping it was just opening day jitters. Doubt it though.

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                                                              1. re: Lily80

                                                                yeah, this looks absolutely rancid. thanks, toronto, for another uninspired underachieving and this time unspeakably disgusting looking hamburger restaurant

                                                              2. BlogTO write up. One of her burger's was burned and she couldn't finish it:

                                                                http://www.blogto.com/restaurants/gan...

                                                                Hope they fix their issues (like bun to beef ratio) and get the quality under control.

                                                                1. Tried this on a whim, wish I had not, the amount of grease floating around in that tiny space is disgusting, I'm basically wearing the burger I ate with all the grease on the floor, the hard part was getting it off my sunglasses which for some strange reason had covered the lenses. The bun to burger ratio is spot on from the other posts too much bread and mine was crumbly which does not happen with fresh bread. The two sauces I tried Gangster goo and Chipotle mayo (mediocre), and the meat was basically a standard burger (Don C w cheese & Le,On,Tom), without the meaty flavour you’re expecting from a 6oz patty. If your going to griddle a burger make sure its seasoned correctly to enhance the flavour of the meat. I will not be giving this place a second chance, just too many strikes for me. I wish i had something more positive to say about this place as I don't like to be lumped into the troll category. Just seems like they have too many kinks to work out. Thanks

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                                                                  1. re: AngryPorkchop

                                                                    That's seriously gross. Grease on your sunglasses? Wow...

                                                                  2. In the BlogTO review the owners posted saying they are taking all comments into consideration. They say their grand opening is September 29th.

                                                                    I am guessing they are reading this thread too so keep posting feedback for them. They really should have had people taste test their product before using customers as guinea pigs. I am more concerned about the statement that this place is already looking dirty/grungy/greasy.

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                                                                    1. re: ylsf

                                                                      The ventilation isn't enough for that space, imo. There's a lot of smoke (OH from another patron) and you can pretty much feel the grease hanging in the air.

                                                                      Also, the floor, when wet, is super slippy. I thought so myself when I walked in (it was rainy that day) and some other dude nearly took a dive.

                                                                    2. i was scratching my head when i checked out there webpage. it's really ballsy to be calling out one of the most beloved burger joints in toronto. i guess it could work in your favour since they are getting alot of attention with this approach.

                                                                      on the flip side though, it's easier to give places a second chance when u believe they are trying there best and the owners are super nice. not so much when they go out of their way to give the impression that they are extremely cocky and ready to destroy all competition.

                                                                      in the end, it's all about a great product. very interesting to see how things turn out.

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                                                                      1. re: justanotherdoan

                                                                        I'm not sure what exactly you're talking about. What burger joint are you referring to when you call it "one of the most beloved burger joints in toronto?

                                                                        1. re: kwass

                                                                          I'm assuming the Priest.

                                                                          DT

                                                                          1. re: Davwud

                                                                            Oh. Ok. That makes sense. At first I thought that he was calling Hero Burger "one of the most beloved burger joints in toronto", since there was a previous discussion about Hero Burger. But that seemed totally crazy to me, since it's so bad. And then I thought maybe he was referring to Gangster Burger, which again seemed odd since it just opened.

                                                                            Thanks for the clarification Davwud.

                                                                            1. re: kwass

                                                                              "IT'S A NEW DAY AND WE'RE THE NEW BOYS IN TOWN. NO PRIESTS. NO HEROES. JUST GANGSTERS."

                                                                              1. re: Pincus

                                                                                These guys are taking a page right out of Mitt Romney's playbook - shoot first, aim second.

                                                                                A bit lame to start off by taking shots at others - and if they dont start walking the walk soon, their restaurant will be 6 feet deep in restaurant heaven.

                                                                                1. re: pakmode

                                                                                  Their restaurant will sleep with the fishes.

                                                                                  DT

                                                                                  1. re: Davwud

                                                                                    Went in today and they were so lost and confused with 5 people waiting.....I couldn't stand it and walked out. Went shopping and tried again and the smell of grease repelled me.

                                                                                    1. re: justsayn

                                                                                      You are lucky you didn't. Read some of the newer comments on BlogTo. Maybe the guy is making it up, but, based on what I have seen so far I can totally see them doing this stuff (I won't post here because I don't have evidence of it actually happening)

                                                                                      1. re: ylsf

                                                                                        I have no idea what you're talking about. Perhaps a link to the review to which you refer.

                                                                                        DT

                                                                                        1. re: Davwud

                                                                                          http://www.blogto.com/restaurants/gan...

                                                                                          1. re: justsayn

                                                                                            Thanks

                                                                                            It's so obvious that the owners or their buddies are shilling for the place. The whole thing just rubs me the wrong way. I have ZERO interest in trying what they're offering. Would likely turn down a freebie.

                                                                                            DT

                                                                                            1. re: justsayn

                                                                                              That thread at blogTO is kind of fascinating -- you've got obvious shills for the restaurant on one side, and people (or perhaps just one person?) with an axe to grind on the other.

                                                                                              There are, what, six or seven people claiming to have gotten food poisoning from the place? It strikes me as unlikely that they're causing a mini outbreak of food poisoning in Toronto (because for every person posting about it, you'd have to imagine that there are several more who have never heard of blogTO). The posts from the "ex-employee" also seem a bit too over-the-top to be true.

                                                                                              On the other hand you've got comically obvious shills claiming line-ups around the block.

                                                                                              It's a fun thread to read, but I don't know how much of it I'd take seriously.

                                                                                              1. re: Michael N

                                                                                                Michael N, they were open a mere week before they got a loooooong list of violations, so yes, yes it is possible.

                                                                                            2. re: Davwud

                                                                                              I had posted it on Sep 19th so didn't want to keep repeating myself but justsayn linked to it below. I a, sure their are some trolls on there but as outrageous as the ex employees claims are, I can totally see this happening as it seems the people running the whole operation are far from professional food/restaurant people. Sounded like it all started on a whim based on other articles.

                                                                                              1. re: ylsf

                                                                                                I gotta admit some of the comments made me laugh.

                                                                                                At the same time, these guys are tatoo artists who decided on a "whim" to open this business. Ah well, they've made their bed...

                                                                                                1. re: pakmode

                                                                                                  Yeah, the thread is gold! Had a good chuckle this morning reading it.

                                                                                                  1. re: pakmode

                                                                                                    The one about the Ferraris is absolutely hilarious.

                                                                                                    1. re: justxpete

                                                                                                      This is my favourite:

                                                                                                      This place is for connoisseurs of burgers, someone who has the palate to appreciate amazing out of this world cuisine. Haters should be grateful for this cultural hot spot. This place is bumpin, line ups for miles. Phenomenal fries.

                                                                            2. This place is a BAD joke!

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                                                                              1. re: justsayn

                                                                                Anyplace that calls their place "Gangster" has me thinking twice if it's worth a try (which is a no thanks)

                                                                              2. In the slew of burger joints that have rolled out in the last few years, I've never seen one fail so bad right out of the gate.

                                                                                Those food pictures on the blogTO are absolutely repulsive. I actually called the other half over to see and he howled. Bun with coarcoal on it.

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                                                                                1. re: abigllama

                                                                                  their branding is cool though.. love the logo ;)

                                                                                  1. re: brushfire

                                                                                    Is this same Gangster Burger that had a restaurant in a small plaza on Burnhamthorpe in Mississauga? It went bust.