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This will be my wife and I's first trip to Paris. Whenever we travel I always consider the food to be the highlight of our trip, including the planning of the perfect meals. I do have to admit, this trip has been a little overwhelming. I realized quickly that a week was way too short to do, and eat it all. Though I have not posted much, I this site has been a great help with everyone's posts through the use of the search function. I am posting my list of planned restaurants which has been compiled from research here, the fork, John Talbott's site, and even yes the dreaded TA site.

Much of the lunch choices I tried to coordinate with our planned itineraries those given days.

Wednesday arrival: Dinner Restaurant Mariette. Coinciding with Eiffel tower visit the first night.

Thursday: Lunch at La Cordonneire since we will be near the Louvre Dinner Le Regalade St Honore

Friday: Lunch at Les Papilles near Luxemburg Gardens, Dinner Au Fil des Saisons

Saturday: Dinner at Chez L'ami Jean

Sunday: Day trip to Versaille then Dinner at Les Violon d'Ingres

Monday: Lunch at Le Cinq

Tuesday: Will be in the Montmartre area. Lunch trying to decide between: Le Sagittaire, La Balancoire, or Sens Unique. Final dinner at Frenchie

So please I welcome any comments or input. I promise to take note and return with my thoughts and a report.

Thanks
Joe

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  1. Well having not heard any feedback otherwise, I spent the morning making reservations as above using my broken French and skype. The only one I am waiting to hear back on is Regalade St. Honore. They had a voice-mail saying to email, which I did. Also Chez l'ami Jean only had 1900 that day, and I was told we were expected to be finished by 2100. We will see how that plays out with their 8 course dinner. On The Montmartre day I decided instead of my above choices to go with La Table d'Eugene for lunch. I realize a couple of the days may be food overload, but we will play that by ear. I did leave some luches and the dinner after Le Cinq open to recuperate.

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    1. re: joeandmaria

      I think you have done your homework and come up with a bunch of winners. The only bad experience I had from your selections was at La Cordonnerie. Good selection of Table d'Eugene, my favorite in Montmartre.

      1. re: Laidback

        Thanks. Would you mind giving more details on your experience at La Cordonnerie? Wasn't much info here. There is always time to find another place near the Louvre for lunch.

        1. re: joeandmaria

          I think our expectations may have been too high, we were certainly not poisoned, it just seemed that the plates were a bit "tired", banal, uninspired and my guest seemed to be the only Frenchman there that night among several rather boisterous anglophone rugby or soccer fans. Your other choices are more to my liking. I could have been there on a bad night; how could a gozillion Trip Advisers all be wrong.

          1. re: Laidback

            "how could a gozillion Trip Advisers all be wrong"

            I definitely take TA reviews with a grain of salt. Especially considering how "Olive Garden" will be a top rated restaurant in many cities.

            I may keep the choice, and report back my experience. I would also be open to hearing other suggestions near the Louvre. Keeping in mind we will be doing an 20:30 dinner at Le Regalade St Honore.

            1. re: joeandmaria

              near the Louvre? I'd walk over to Willi's Wine Bar for a plat and a glass of wine.

        2. re: Laidback

          would also appreciate hearing more about your meal at La Cordonnerie. that's Chef Hugo's small place in the les Halles neighborhood ?

        3. re: joeandmaria

          You can make also email La Regalade St. Honore for a reservation - I heard back in a day or two.

          laregalade.sainthonore@yahoo.fr

          1. re: dafisk

            Yes, that is how I made my first reservation. When I called I would just get a voice mail with instructions to email at that address.

        4. At Le Cinq, assuming you are wine people, they have an excellent choice of Ravenau chablis, they are as good as Chablis gets.

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          1. re: Delucacheesemonger

            Thanks for the tip! Will certainly look for it. While we do enjoy a good wine, we are far from connoisseurs. To be honest my lack of knowledge of French wines makes me nervous for this trip.

            1. re: joeandmaria

              Your honesty about lack of knowledge should put you in good stead. Those who get in trouble are often those who pretend to or think they know more than they do. If you can communicate something about your preferences and indicate a price range, you should be well served.

          2. "near the Louvre"
            Casa luna aka A Casaluna

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            1. re: John Talbott

              ChefJune: Thanks for the recommendation of Willi's Wine Bar

              JT: Thanks for the recommendation on Casaluna

              I will look into both.

              1. re: joeandmaria

                Joe -
                I am anxiously awaiting your trip report. We have many of the same restos on our favorite lists. Have a wonderful trip.

            2. Well I was able to secure a reservation for Spring on the same night as Au Fil des Saisons. I realize they are 2 different price points and experiences. The only table they had was in the cellar, which I am a little concerned about considering the negative comments I have read regarding that. Hmm what to do?? Any comments on lunch at spring vs dinner. Could also see if they had availability for lunch when near the Louvre instead of La Cordonneire. If I did that though I would want to swap my Le Regalde St Honore and Au Fil des Saisons nights. In case you can not tell, I am really over-thinking this.

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              1. re: joeandmaria

                You are so overthinking I don't even know what your question is, LOL.
                Could you please streamline your questioning for us?

                1. re: Parigi

                  You are right, I am not sure I even know what my question is or if there was a question at all. It was more a bunch of dribble about my thought process, which is about as clear as mud right now. LOL Right now I am waiting to hear back from Le Regalade St. Honore. If the will move my reservation to Friday. If they do my plan will be as follows:

                  Thursday: Lunch at Spring Dinner Au Fil des Saisons

                  Friday: Lunch at Les Papilles near Luxemburg Gardens, Dinner Le Regalade St Honore

                  If I can not move my reservation fo St Honore, then I have to decide whether to drop Au Fil des Saisons in place of Spring in the cellar for dinner. Otherwise do Spring for lunch and St Honore for dinner in the same day, which I think is too much.

                  Once again about clear as mud. LOL

                2. re: joeandmaria

                  Meals downstairs at Spring are fine (I even held a big Birthday party there).
                  I prefer lunch because of all the reasons I've stated before and lunch is fine and less pricey.
                  I'm not wild about Au Fil des Saisons. I am about Spring and Regalade St H

                  1. re: John Talbott

                    JT Thanks for the input. Any particular reasons why you are not crazy about Au Fil des Saisons? (assuming I am not skipping Spring or Regalade for it).

                    I was also thinking that if Regalade St H does not have availability that night, I could make the trek out to the original in the 14th. Some seem to think that one is better anyway. Shouldn't be too hard to get to since I am staying on rue Rambuteau near Chatelet Les Halles line 4 looks to be a direct route.

                    1. re: joeandmaria

                      Since you broach it, for a first time visit to Paris, original Regalade, IMHO, is a much more quintessential experience than either au courant Spring or RSH.

                      1. re: mangeur

                        So agree.

                        1. re: mangeur

                          Thanks for the advice, though to be honest I had to look up au courant. LOL

                          1. re: joeandmaria

                            Ah. And you're undoubtedly too young to catch a reference to Flip Wilson's "Church of What's Happening Now" skits.

                            1. re: mangeur

                              I am afraid so. That would be about the time I was born.

                        2. re: joeandmaria

                          "JT Thanks for the input. Any particular reasons why you are not crazy about Au Fil des Saisons? (assuming I am not skipping Spring or Regalade for it).
                          Hummm, hard to say, just that there are a lot better rigght now.
                          I was also thinking that if Regalade St H does not have availability that night, I could make the trek out to the original in the 14th. "
                          Good idea.

                    2. Well I was able to get a lunch reservation at Spring on Thursday. I made a reservation via the Fork for Le Regalade in the 14th, which works out sin Le Regalade St. H was unable to move to Friday. I have kept Au fil des Saisons penciled in for dinner on Thursday,unless I come up with something else. So the modified plan is:

                      Wednesday arrival: Dinner Restaurant Mariette. Coinciding with Eiffel tower visit the first night.

                      Thursday: Lunch at Spring Dinner at Au fils des Saisons

                      Friday: Lunch at Les Papilles near Luxemburg Gardens, Dinner at Le Regalade in the 14th

                      Saturday: Dinner at Chez L'ami Jean

                      Sunday: Day trip to Versaille then Dinner at Les Violon d'Ingres

                      Monday: Lunch at Le Cinq

                      Tuesday: Lunch at La Table d'Eugene Final dinner at Frenchie

                      Thanks for everyone's help so far.

                      One more question is about how much time would you allow for getting to Le Regalade? I have heard Chatelet Les Halles is one of the biggest and busiest metro stations. I was planning on walking from rue Rambuteau station which we are near to the Chatelet Les Halles station. Taking the #4 line to Alesia, and walking to Regelade. The reverse for the way back. I was thinking about an hour, but having never been to Paris before, I am just guessing. I am also assuming this is a fairly safe trek/area, correct?

                      Thanks again. I do really promise to report back my experience.

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                      1. re: joeandmaria

                        Catch the #38 bus from Chatelet (Avenue Victoria) and get off at Alesia - Maine (it's a big roundabout), then a short stroll down Ave. Jean Moulin. Far better than traveling below ground - and it is a OK area for walking. My RATP interactive map says about 34 mins door to door ( but I woud leave more time). This is a great tool for navigating buses in Paris and helps you get to more far flung restaurants without going underground.

                        1. re: PhilD

                          "My RATP interactive map says about 34 mins door to door ( but I woud leave more time)." I use the RATP itineraires now all the time, since my old friend Felice turned me onto it and have consistently found it or found it consistently to be overly-ambitious or my walking overly-unambitious. I leave 20 minutes for the Delanoye effect (bike and taxi lanes) on the bus and 10 minutes underground.

                          1. re: John Talbott

                            Yes. I like how their site will tell you to walk to a near station if that means a shorter trip with less stops. I have checked out iphone apps that seem to just give you directions from the starting point you pick, even if there were a more direct route within a short route. I wish RATP would have an app that would work offline.

                            1. re: John Talbott

                              John - I have long legs! The other think I like about the site is the bit that says when the next bus is due. You need to know how far you closest stop is from where you are staying and how close he restaurant is at the other end. We find it pretty accurate and helps us get to restaurants on time which can often be a bit hot or miss in a new city.

                            2. re: PhilD

                              <My RATP interactive map >

                              Any chance someone could post a link to that? Much appreciated. ;)

                              1. re: ChefJune

                                http://www.ratp.fr/plan-interactif/

                                1. re: ChefJune

                                  if you have iPad or iPhone,
                                  http://www.ratp.fr/fr/ratp/c_21130/ra...

                                  but download the app when in Paris... you get a simplified English version if downloaded elsewhere

                                  1. re: Parnassien

                                    aaah! merci bien.

                              2. re: joeandmaria

                                Or yet simpler and faster, take any transportation (métro #4, bus 38, 28, 68, etc.) to Porte d'Orléans and then the tram, only one stop (Jean Moulin) in the Pont du Garigliano direction. Leaves you right at the door of La Régalade.

                                1. re: Ptipois

                                  Thanks everyone for the tips. I had not heard of this tram. I will check into it.

                                  1. re: joeandmaria

                                    Oh it's most cool.

                                    1. re: John Talbott

                                      Can you transfer to the tram from the metro with the same validated ticket, or does it require another ticket?

                                      1. re: joeandmaria

                                        Same, at least with a Navigo and now you can use it for all RER in the Ile de France on weekends.

                              3. Question about my lunch at Le Cinq. Does anyone know if the fixed price lunch includes the cheese course (trolley)? I have seen it mentioned in some write ups, but not others. I am assuming it is a supplement, right?

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                                1. re: joeandmaria

                                  Did you go on your trip yet? I would love to hear how the meals were!

                                  1. re: cakster

                                    Yes. A report was started here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/873076