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"Apple pie in a bag" and other pie questions.

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lilmomma Sep 14, 2012 03:46 AM

There is a place in Wisconsin that make "apple pie in a bag". It is amazing. ANyone know how to make this? I have a ton of apples and want to play around. Full disclosure... I have never made an apple pie before. Any good beginner recipes oput there? Can I use pears to make a pie? For that matter, what else can I make with all these apples?

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    HillJ Sep 14, 2012 06:45 AM

    http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/2...

    The King Arthur Flour Co. not only provides the recipe they site the Wisconsin product.

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    1. re: HillJ
      blue room Sep 19, 2012 03:31 PM

      I made the King Arthur pie in a bag this afternoon -- posted about it here --

      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/869258

      It's really very good!

       
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        HillJ Sep 19, 2012 04:46 PM

        blue room, u officially rock :)
        I've made the pie several times and thought the step by step from KA would address the OP's questions. Love the photo!

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          blue room Sep 19, 2012 07:52 PM

          I was so impressed that it browned (top streusel and bottom piecrust) in a paper bag!

    2. ipsedixit Sep 14, 2012 07:46 AM

      You can make apple pie with just about anything, including Ritz Crackers! http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/r...

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        tweetie Sep 14, 2012 01:11 PM

        http://www.thedutchbakersdaughter.com...

        I've used the KA recipe for the paper bag pie and it's a good one. The link above is to an easier, quicker, equally as yummy apple "pie". I think it would be a good starting off point after which the pie in the sky is the limit. Happy baking!

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          lilmomma Sep 16, 2012 09:13 AM

          Tweetie! I have made that pie four times already! Easy peasy and yummy. THanks for the link!

          1. re: lilmomma
            greygarious Sep 16, 2012 11:14 AM

            That's a cobbler, not a pie. It's similar to one of Cook's Illustrated Master Cobbler recipes.
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/611278 I made it yesterday to use up some frozen rhubarb, fresh green grapes, and dried cherries. It never fails, but it's not pie. There are numerous threads on CH about the best apple varieties and combinations of apples for pie. If you ever want to make an actual pie, read those first.

            Pears (which are closely related to apples - all relatives of the rose) can be used for pie, though for some strange reason they are more often baked in tarts. Typically, pear tarts and pies also contain cranberries or raisins. You did not say what kind of apples you have. If they hold their shape when cooked, this Jacques Pepin pear recipe can be used with apples (I think it's even better than with pears). It is simple and very delicious, but you do need to keep an eye on it since sugar goes from caramel to burnt very easily. blogs.kqed.org/essentialpepin/2011/09/18/braised-pears-in-a-caramel-sauce/

            1. re: greygarious
              The Dairy Queen Sep 17, 2012 07:52 AM

              Forgive my ignorance, but why isn't it pie? It's baked in a pie tin, it's got crust on the bottom and a fruit filling. Does it need a crust on the top, too, to qualify as pie?

              ~TDQ

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                HillJ Sep 17, 2012 08:47 AM

                And the orginal recipe has always referred to this version as a PIE.

              2. re: greygarious
                Wtg2Retire Sep 17, 2012 01:52 PM

                I have made Swedish Apple Pie many times and it is definitely not a cobbler.

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                  greygarious Sep 17, 2012 03:11 PM

                  The linked dutchbakersdaughter recipe calls for apples in a dish, spread with a cookie-dough batter. No bottom crust, no pate brisee. That's a cobbler, not a pie.

                  I believe that's the recipe the OP was thanking Tweetie for. Since the OP says she has never made a pie before, I doubt that she was saying she'd made 4 Swedish or King Arthur Apple Pies in two days.

        2. jen kalb Sep 17, 2012 10:26 AM

          My Mom used to (and maybe still does) make paper bag apple pie as an alternative to her normal lattice crust version. There is really nothing unusual about it except for the topping, which is a crumble crust, basically same as you would put on apple crisp (flour-butter-sugar-cinnamon. the pie is then put into a large supermarket paper bag, which is folded closed under the pie. dont know the baking temp - I would think it is a standard temp. Makes a delicious pie.

          There are lots of good pie recipes out there for apple pie, and the treatment of the apples is simple - slice and mix with flour and cinnamon (or other thickener and spice to your preference) - Id start with making a decision about the crust if I were you. If you dont want to deal with pastry, apple crisp itself (the apples as above, covered with crumble topping and baked) is an easy alternative.

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            tweetie Sep 17, 2012 03:38 PM

            The link is to a recipe the blogger refers to as Apple Crack, aka Swedish Apple pie and it's the one I use and call the latter. My use of quotation marks was to indicate that it is not what Webster's would define as a pie. No need to play word games. It's all homebaked deliciousness. I hope that with the success of those 4 "pies", whatever they may be, our new baker will become more confident and tackle a traditional 2 crust apple pie and will not be cited for illegal use of pastry terminology.

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              lilmomma Sep 19, 2012 07:41 AM

              I did make the Swedish Apple Pie four times and it was loved by all who ate it. I don't know that I need to make a traditional pie now that I have this easy peasy recipe. But I will try to make it up to Wisconsin to get the real thing and then make a determination! ;) What is the crumble topping that you all are talking about. Is that equal parts of sugar, oats and butter or something like that?

              1. re: lilmomma
                jen kalb Sep 19, 2012 09:15 AM

                apple pie in a bag is going to be a PIE, i.e a dessert made in a shallow pan lined with pastry, filled with a filling and either covered with another layer of pastry or not. A pie is not another kind of apple concoction, however delicious it may be. I will try to post a recope or description later. You can always sidestep the need to make pastry by buying a prepared frozen crust - they are not bad at all especially compared to a commercial pie which will not have the butter or tlc of a homemade pie anyway.

                I looked on line and the Wisconsin pie looks like a two crust pie rather than the simpler streusel topping approach - trust me, its just a conventional apple baked in an unconventional manner.

                will post a simple paper bag pie recipe later this evening

                1. re: jen kalb
                  jen kalb Sep 19, 2012 07:19 PM

                  OK, here's the recipe my mom Julie Johnson gave me for her Paper Bag Apple Pie
                  Simple and excellent.

                  unbaked 9" pie shell
                  3 or 4 large baking apples
                  2 tbsp flour
                  1/2 tsp cinnamon

                  topping
                  1/2 C sugar
                  1/2 C flour
                  1/2 c butter

                  pare, core and slice apples, rinse and place in large bowl. Combine flour and cinnamon and sprinkle over apples and toss to coat well. spoon into shell and drizzle with lemon juice (quantity not given)

                  combine/cut together topping ingredients sprinkle over apples (add a touch of salt if your butter is unsalted) Slip pie into brown paper bag, fold end shut and secure with paper clips Place on a cookie sheet and bake in a 425 degree for one hr, remove from oven, remove from bag and cool on rack.

                  1. re: jen kalb
                    The Dairy Queen Sep 20, 2012 02:07 AM

                    Heck, Even I can do this one! I love the paperclips!

                    ~TDQ

                    1. re: The Dairy Queen
                      jen kalb Sep 20, 2012 08:23 PM

                      typical midwestern cooking - none of this frou frou stuff with ginger and stuff - note the original recipe called for margarine rather than butter.

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            km_mcrc Sep 19, 2012 07:39 PM

            Bobby Flay did an episode of Throwown on the Brown Bag Apple Pie. It might help.

            http://www.hulu.com/watch/395415?c=food

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              lilmomma Sep 24, 2012 04:38 AM

              Made more apple pie this weekend. Love this recipe for the Swedish apple pie. I have a bunch of pears too. What "cookie dough" topping would go well? I don't think cinnamon should go with that, do you think? What should be my modification?

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                HillJ Sep 24, 2012 04:58 AM

                lilm, do you like the taste of crystallized ginger? If so, a crumb topping with small pieces or slivers of the ginger would be nice with apples or pears.

                1. re: lilmomma
                  greygarious Sep 24, 2012 05:39 AM

                  Pear frangipane is classic - so use almond paste or marzipan in your topping. But cinnamon works fine with pears, too. If you have dried cranberries, soak them a bit (so they don't dry out and burn in the topping) and include them. Pear/cranberry is a popular combo in tarts and pies.

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