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bundydavis Sep 12, 2012 01:59 PM

I saw this posted on the Los Angeles Board and thought it might be fun to try on our board.

The questions:

1. SD restaurants everybody loves but you (either actively dislike or think is overrated.)

2. SD restaurants nobody loves (either actively derides or just doesn't know about) but you.

3. SD restaurants everybody loves that you also love.

4. SD restaurants everybody loves that you've never been to.

For me:

#1 Bencotto - I only ate their once, but I must have either ordered the wrong thing or they were having a bad night. It wasn't terrible, but I didn't love it.
I also need to mention Searsucker, as our meal was terrible and overpriced.

#2 - Trattoria I Trulli (Encinitas) - I never see this restaurant mentioned. They make the best lasagna I've ever had and I love their bur-rata.
Mi Ranchito - Amazing taco shop in PQ that I never see mentioned. Fresh seafood and quality ingredients.

#3 - Farmhouse Cafe, Sushi Ota, Market, Trulucks, Sea Rocket Bistro

#4 - Kitchen 1540, Georges on the Cove, Mariscos German Truck

  1. honkman Sep 12, 2012 02:26 PM

    Interesting that you mentioned Sushi Ota and Market and Trulucks under #3 - based on the comments on this boards these three restaurants are quite controversial and definitely not loved by everybody (over even the majority). (Never been to Sushi Ota but not very impressed by Market and exerperiences at Truluck were more than disappointing for the price)

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    1. re: honkman
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      pantani Sep 12, 2012 07:04 PM

      I think you are wrong about Ota. It is universally liked but always takes a back seat to Kaito. I think they are almost in different catagories.

    2. r
      RB Hound Sep 12, 2012 02:59 PM

      I'm pretty certain that Super Sergio's is a universal answer for #3.

      1. Dagney Sep 12, 2012 03:23 PM

        #1 Urban Solace
        #2 Sultan Baklava, Cafe Istanbul
        #3 Farmhouse, Addison, Buga
        #4 Kitchen 1540, TBL3 at George's,

        1. globocity Sep 12, 2012 04:43 PM

          #1 Super Cocina, Cowboy Star, Marine Room, Bencotto
          #2 Costa Brava, Muzita Bistro, Bleu Boheme, The Smoking Goat
          #3 Urban Solace, Pizzeria Bruno Napoletano, Cafe Chloe, Mariscos German truck in City Heights
          #4 Kitchen 1540, Sab E Lee, Kaito Sushi

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            shouzen Sep 12, 2012 05:34 PM

            I will limit myself to 2 places per answer:
            1) Cowboy Star, Jsix
            2) La Playa Taco Shop, Sam Woo
            3) Georges at the Cove, Yakitori Yakyudori
            4) Sea Rocket Bistro, Kitchen 1540

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            1. re: shouzen
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              pantani Sep 12, 2012 06:25 PM

              1. Urban Solace (Encinitas), Blue Ribbon Pizza
              2. Saffron
              3. Bencotto
              4. Super Cocina and lots more.

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                mercyteapot Sep 15, 2012 12:41 PM

                I agree about Urban Solace in Encinitas. After enjoying a meal at the North Park location, I was excited to learn they were opening shop near my home in Encinitas. Was very disappointed after visiting that location, though.

              2. re: shouzen
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                pickypicky Sep 12, 2012 08:22 PM

                I love La Playa. Happy you do too!

              3. Rodzilla Sep 12, 2012 10:55 PM

                1. Bronx Pizza

                2. How about lesser known? Toshi-San, Mister Sushi, Izakaya Masa

                3. Kaito, Flavor, Delicias, Urban Solace

                4. Super Cocina, AR Valentien, wayyyy too many others

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                1. re: Rodzilla
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                  RB Hound Sep 12, 2012 11:07 PM

                  Gotta quibble with #1; you will find a large number of SD Chowhounds that do not Bronx Pizza - even those that junkies of NYC pizza.

                  What' I've yet to see in #2 is a place that most people here slam. Everybody's going for the under the radar picks. I want to see somebody defending a Phil's (for example). :)

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                    cstr Sep 13, 2012 06:20 AM

                    That's why it's a survey, based on 'individual' opinion, not your quibbles. Rodzie thinks it's overrated.

                    1. re: cstr
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                      RB Hound Sep 13, 2012 11:42 AM

                      I didn't want to sound like I was trashing anybody's answer; I was just trying to understand the context. I probably read "everybody" in the categories too literally, or perhaps as being specific to the local Chowhounds and not the population at large.

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                  pickypicky Sep 13, 2012 09:40 AM

                  don't get. 1. Addison, Super Cocina

                  old shoes. 2. Zinc Cafe, Coffee Cup, Lanna, La Playa Taco, Craft & Commerce

                  all stars. 3. Tender Greens, Rocky's, ARV, Farmhouse, Fishery

                  ashamed to say. 4. Linkery, Sea Rocket, Cowboy Star, Kaito and that other one, Bice, Smoking Goat.

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                    cstr Sep 14, 2012 04:33 AM

                    Linkery is worth a try, excellent housemade links, great slaw but, in general over priced and limited.

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                      pickypicky Sep 14, 2012 06:01 AM

                      Heard nothing but good things, but the night we went to try it several years ago, we saw the TV screen, and balked. Silly, I know. . .

                      1. re: pickypicky
                        Dagney Sep 14, 2012 10:35 AM

                        I like the Linkery for a casual, kick back with a beer, kind of dinner.

                  2. honkman Sep 13, 2012 09:57 AM

                    1) In'n'Out, Cowboy Star, Sab E Lee

                    2) Avenue 5, Golden City, Tropical Star

                    3) Cafe Chloe, Urban Solace, Starlite (and many more)

                    4) TBL3, Addison

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                      karaethon Sep 13, 2012 10:40 AM

                      Will limit to 3 responses for each

                      1) Point Loma Seafood, Kebab Shop, Dumpling Inn
                      2) Chef Chin, Akinori, Urban Plates
                      3) Kaito, Cowboy Star, Sab E Lee
                      4) Wine Vault, Kitchen 1540, Super Sergios

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                      1. re: karaethon
                        Rodzilla Sep 17, 2012 12:10 AM

                        Are you limiting 1540 to post Chef change?

                        1. re: Rodzilla
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                          karaethon Sep 17, 2012 10:35 AM

                          yes - reflection of now vs before

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                        Lynnester Sep 13, 2012 02:55 PM

                        1. Cucina Urbana
                        2. Avenue 5, Wine Vault (not that these are actively disliked but just not talked about)
                        3. Super Cocina, Kaito
                        4. Addison, TBL3 at Georges

                        1. Fake Name Sep 14, 2012 07:24 AM

                          "1. SD restaurants everybody loves but you (either actively dislike or think is overrated.)"

                          I want to avoid trouble with Honkman- who's "everybody"? Are we discussing popularity, or the CH seal of approval?

                          For example, the never ending line of people to eat at Lucha Libre. I know any self-respecting,San Diego-deprecating Chowhound wouldn't bother.

                          But I see the constant lineup and wonder if they're all new customers. Because once you've had their food (nothing wrong with it, but..) you wouldn't stand on line to get it. Are their lives so worthless that time queueing up is of no matter?

                          Obviously, Phils is another. Snooz. Hash House.

                          I wouldn't wait in line for hours to go to French Laundry.

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                            cstr Sep 14, 2012 07:29 AM

                            Good point FN, everybody is a broad statement, everybody in the US, SD, world ??

                            Super Sergio's may fit that criteria for everybody to like!

                            1. re: Fake Name
                              honkman Sep 14, 2012 11:10 AM

                              "I want to avoid trouble with Honkman" - Are you getting old ?
                              But to answer your question (even though I didn't raise the initial questions including the word"everybody") but I think we could only talk about the "opinions" of CH as just discussing long lines in front of restaurants (which are important for the success of the restaurant) don't mean much to the quality of the restaurant (I think we all agree that Cheesecake Factory is most likely not the restaurant with the best food in SD but the one with the longest lines)

                              1. re: honkman
                                Fake Name Sep 14, 2012 11:48 AM

                                "Are you getting old ?"

                                Nah. I'm a new leaf.

                            2. Fake Name Sep 14, 2012 08:43 AM

                              "2. SD restaurants nobody loves (either actively derides or just doesn't know about) but you."

                              Thus begging another philosophical question: What is love?

                              I don't love Sushi Deli, which is universally (and appropriately) derided here.

                              But I go there often for lunch, and have a pleasant and inexpensive experience. I never wait in line- either I go to the bar and sit down, or I leave. Not worth waiting for.

                              But I do look over my shoulder in case I see a fellow Chowhound on the street. If I did, I'd keep walking to preserve my elitist status.

                              1. Fake Name Sep 14, 2012 12:57 PM

                                "4. SD restaurants everybody loves that you've never been to."

                                Cheesecake Factory.

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                                1. re: Fake Name
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                                  chetatkinsdiet Sep 14, 2012 01:28 PM

                                  I see that as a badge of honor.

                                2. Fake Name Sep 14, 2012 04:27 PM

                                  3. SD restaurants everybody loves that you also love.

                                  Again, "everybody" has notable exceptions (pickypicky) but for me Addison is a no-brainer.

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                                  1. re: Fake Name
                                    Dagney Sep 14, 2012 04:52 PM

                                    A no-brainer indeed.

                                    We just made reservations at Addison for our 5 year wedding anniversary. We are going ALL out...10 course tasting menu with pairings.

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                                      chetatkinsdiet Sep 14, 2012 07:23 PM

                                      We're doing the same next week- we're ready.

                                      1. re: chetatkinsdiet
                                        Dagney Sep 14, 2012 08:47 PM

                                        Excellent! We are also very excited. We were looking at a few places in LA (Melisse, Urasawa), but decided to stay local so we could spend the majority of our anniversary budget on the food instead of travel costs.

                                        1. re: Dagney
                                          ipsedixit Sep 14, 2012 08:53 PM

                                          If you ever do get the chance, I would highly recommend you try Urasawa sometime.

                                          1. re: ipsedixit
                                            Rodzilla Sep 14, 2012 10:49 PM

                                            agreed

                                            1. re: ipsedixit
                                              Dagney Sep 14, 2012 10:57 PM

                                              Yes! I did a ton of research on the LA spots and Urasawa sounded absolutely divine. Maybe for our 10th. In any event, we are completely jazzed about Addison.

                                              Just to appease the Chow Powers That Be: I'll add one more comment so we stay on topic:

                                              Vinny's Pizza in Alpine is a place that many folks don't know about, because it's in Alpine, but they rival Bronx all day.

                                              1. re: Dagney
                                                ipsedixit Sep 15, 2012 12:10 PM

                                                I wouldn't wait another 5 years to try Urasawa. It might not be around in 5 years.

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                                      bundydavis Sep 14, 2012 04:49 PM

                                      Glad to see this thread has some interesting dialogue going on. I guess there can be different interpretations of the questions, but I just copied exactly from the LA board. Looking forward to reading more replies. Hope everyone stays "cool" this weekend.

                                      1. Fake Name Sep 14, 2012 09:23 PM

                                        "4. SD restaurants everybody loves that you've never been to."

                                        Delicias.
                                        Counterpoint.

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                                        1. re: Fake Name
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                                          karaethon Sep 17, 2012 10:37 AM

                                          Does "everybody" really love those places? I feel like they are pretty new post-chef changes and I don't think "everybody" has been to those places yet

                                          1. re: karaethon
                                            Fake Name Sep 17, 2012 03:42 PM

                                            Thus proving my earlier point.

                                            I don't think (but I could be wrong!) the op meant everybody, I think it was meant as "everybody".

                                            Let's avoid the literal.

                                            1. re: karaethon
                                              Fake Name Sep 17, 2012 03:44 PM

                                              Besides, everybody I know likes them. At least everybody who's anyone.

                                              Oh, I crack myself up....

                                              1. re: Fake Name
                                                DiningDiva Sep 17, 2012 03:58 PM

                                                Just don't break your arm

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