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Shang Ming Restaurant Opens In San Gabriel Until 3am

Chandavkl Sep 12, 2012 12:13 PM

Thanks to JThur01 for the tip that Shang Ming Restaurant had replaced the infamous N.T. Dumpling House a couple of doors down from Mei Long Village. This might be described as a Shanghai style noodle/dumpling,pancake/bun house with Dongbei and Sichuan entrees to boot. The pan fried dumplings are unlike any I've seen before. Besides being fried in a glob connected on the bottom, the dumplings are not the typical medium sized footballs, but rather large and oblong, reminiscent of the shape of papaya slices. And the thick and chewy wrapper is terrific. Also a large number of beef options. Not just beef rolls and beef pancakes but also pan fried beef dumplings, "soup/steamed" beef dumplings, premium beef buns (mantou buns), beef XLB, and beef fried buns. And they open until 3am, convenient like their predecessor for SGV politicos who wish to carry on after hour activities. Address is 301 W. Valley Bl., #110.

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    Johnny L RE: Chandavkl Sep 13, 2012 02:21 AM

    Oh good, don't have to resort to crappy HK-style cafes if I want a nice cooked meal after work now.

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      PeterCC RE: Johnny L Sep 13, 2012 09:32 AM

      Yeah, I can add this to my list of late-night eateries to try in SGV, along with the others mentioned in this thread: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/866729.

    2. ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl Sep 13, 2012 08:14 AM

      Besides being fried in a glob connected on the bottom, the dumplings are not the typical medium sized footballs, but rather large and oblong, reminiscent of the shape of papaya slices.

      Those are lu bao, Beijing Pie House has something similar.

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        JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2012 01:35 PM

        I was going to mention Qingdao Bread Food for lu baos. Beijing Pie House has them too? Thanks Chandavkl, I was so tired after the drive back home I forgot the new name!

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          ipsedixit RE: JThur01 Sep 13, 2012 02:10 PM


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            JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2012 03:59 PM

            Thanks ipse, I'll check out Beijing Pie House (and Shang Ming) for lu baos.

            That location in Prospect Plaza has been the late night option for dumplings, etc. when it was Dragon Mark, then N.T. Dumpling House. If I understand it right (and if nothing has changed), Dragon Mark relocated to the P.P. Pop location on Garfield in Monterey Pk. (next to HK Market), but only open until 1AM and the menu is a bit different.

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              Johnny L RE: JThur01 Sep 14, 2012 12:17 PM

              Wait the sign still says P.P. Pop, so is it a Dragon Mark or what? I'm confused.

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                JThur01 RE: Johnny L Sep 14, 2012 02:28 PM

                ipse, you want to field this one? You are definitely the one to explain this better.

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                  ipsedixit RE: JThur01 Sep 14, 2012 03:11 PM

                  310 W. Valley Blvd. (Prospect Plaza):
                  Dragon Mark (aka 一條龍) --> New Taste Dumpling

                  127 N. Garfield (Hong Kong Market adjacent)
                  Look You Fan --> P.P. Pop (aka 一條龍)**

                  (**Here's the kicker. The Chinese name/signage for P.P. Pop is the same as the old Dragon Mark's Chinese name, or "一條龍"). No idea if there's any relation, however, as the menu is sort of different.)

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                    JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Sep 15, 2012 11:35 PM

                    TonyC reported at another site that it was, in fact, the same. At least when he wrote about the situation in April 2011. The menu is somewhat different and the atmosphere seems quite different than Dragon Mark. I mean, there is actual presentation at P.P. Pop.

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                      TonyC RE: JThur01 Sep 17, 2012 10:33 AM

                      They told me it was the same, twice. Does that really mean "it's the same"? Couldn't really taste it either way, and I just don't know these days. Shanzai dumplings and hot pot is all the rage.

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                        JThur01 RE: TonyC Sep 17, 2012 08:48 PM

                        Good enough for me, I appreciate your efforts. Hot pots? I thought the kids were into this boba stuff :-)

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                JThur01 RE: JThur01 Sep 28, 2012 10:44 PM

                Not to derail the thread into lu bao-ness, but I stopped at both and waiter at Beijing Pie House said: "No lu baos, we have pies". Waitress at Shang Ming was completely stumped by lu bao. So, ipse, what do I need to look for at Beijing Pie House?

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                  Chandavkl RE: JThur01 Sep 28, 2012 11:45 PM

                  They just called them dumplings at Shang Ming

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                    ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl Sep 29, 2012 08:34 PM

                    And that's what they call them at BPH.

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                      JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Sep 29, 2012 08:39 PM

                      Got it. At Qingdao they are "pan-fried stuffed dumplings" I was making it up as I went, or else I would have pulled out a photo and showed it to them. Interesting that lu bao didn't register at all with one server and the other said they didn't have them. Ah, semantics.

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            JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Jan 23, 2013 10:18 AM

            Following up, I took a photo of the item from Qingdao Bread Food into Beijing Pie House and was told by the waitress: "We have something like that, only smaller and without that (pointing to crispy flour webbing)."

            When I did so at Shang Ming, pretty much same thing: "We have something like that only smaller and not shaped like that."


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            andytseng RE: Chandavkl Sep 17, 2012 11:52 PM

            The description of the pan fried dumplings reminds me of something I used to eat around 15 years ago that I haven't been able to find since... dont want to de-rail the thread, but maybe someone can help.

            I used to go to a cafe-type place that I'm pretty sure was in the spot that Indian is at now. I would get their pan fried dumpling that was flatter and longer than your average dumpling. Less meat filling. And I think they used square wrappers instead of round wrappers. The post reminded me of it because they would be fried in 2 rows and would be connected by their fried bits on the bottom.

            Anyone remember that place? But more importantly, anyone know where I can get that sort of fried dumpling now?

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              ipsedixit RE: andytseng Sep 18, 2012 07:48 AM

              The old Dumpling Master (next to Shun Fat) did the same thing.

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                Johnny L RE: andytseng Sep 18, 2012 11:24 AM

                Maybe the hui tou dumplings at Hui Tou Xiang, next door to Lucious Dumplings?

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                JThur01 RE: Chandavkl Sep 28, 2012 10:50 PM

                Stopped in tonight. Waitress said chef stayed on from NT Dumpling House, simply new owner.

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