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Charles Yu Sep 11, 2012 05:21 PM

Hello fellow NYC chowfriends! Greetings and salutations!

I'm back!! After having a fantastic time chowing in your great city this April, I'll be paying the Big Apple another 'chow-visit' at the end of the month. This time I will be meeting up with a real foodie chowhounder visiting from Singapore.

My schedule will be tight and as such, I only have time for may be three meals max with him ( 1 lunch and 2 dinners??!! ). Based on our past dining experiences in the Big Apple and elsewhere, my current plan is WD-50, The Modern and Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare.

Question?! Is it worth our while making the trip to Brooklyn to try out Brooklyn Fare or shall we just stay in town and re-visit one of the 3* 'regulars'.?! Anything NEW ( menu-wise ) from the likes of EMP, Per Se, Daniel or Bernadin? We will be giving a pass on Jean George ( too Asian fusion ) and Masa ( my S'pore friend has eaten in ALL the 3*s in Tokyo! ).

Any 'NEW ADDITION' to the culinary scene that is worth our trying? Last time, fellow chowhounder uhockey suggested Lincoln to me and the experience turned out to be great!

Lastly, any 1* or 2* we should try? My experience with Marea was so-so and I'm not too keen on Corton, finding the plate presentation more impressive than how the food taste! FYI, during my last visit, foodwise, I found Casa Mono to be a revelation. Anything similar that might wow us? My friend loves seafood. How is Esca??!!

Thousand apologies for the chain of never-ending questions! Looking forward to reading all your expert feedback!


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  1. buttertart RE: Charles Yu Sep 11, 2012 06:54 PM

    We had a fabulous meal at the Modern Restaurant last Saturday, do take him there! (Reviewed on this board.)

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      kathryn RE: Charles Yu Sep 11, 2012 07:28 PM

      EMP has revamped, yet again:

      1. erica RE: Charles Yu Sep 12, 2012 04:08 AM

        Hello, Charles!

        if you have not been to Jean Georges, I would reconsider. Although chef utilizes Asian ingredients, I would not call it a fusion restaurant.

        I had a very interesting dinner at Atera recently; you might want to add this to the list of possibilities.

        I'm still dreaming about that char siu at Fu Sing...will have to return to HK to have another chow down with you!! Happy eating!!

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          cambridgedoctpr RE: erica Sep 16, 2012 11:19 AM

          i eat at JG frequently, and i would call it fusion. But worth trying.

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          knucklesandwich RE: Charles Yu Sep 12, 2012 06:36 AM

          Charles, you probably meant to say your friend is a gourmet. A gourmand has less refined taste than a gourmet, revels in quantity, and would probably choose Great New York Noodletown over WD50 any day.

          Remember Mr. Creosote in "The Meaning of Life"?

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          1. re: knucklesandwich
            Charles Yu RE: knucklesandwich Sep 12, 2012 05:11 PM

            I guess he is both since he is a lover of good food and a connoisseur of good food

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            Lacrosse_Gastronomic RE: Charles Yu Sep 12, 2012 06:45 AM

            If you can get a reservation at Brooklyn Fare, by all means go. The food is wonderful and Ramirez is very gracious. His presentation leans towards Japanese though his ingredients are sourced globally.

            Jean Georges should also be on your list. It's much better than the Modern Dining Room as far as I'm concerned. The food at Jean Georges is French nouvelle cuisine with some asian ingredients, notably sesame, soy, yuzu, and red chili oil, all of which are used sparingly. It's not like you'll be served pork buns or pastrami egg rolls. Jean Georges is a lot more subtle and refined than that.

            Esca is comparable to Marea, except that the pasta at Marea is much better.

            1. Charles Yu RE: Charles Yu Sep 12, 2012 05:48 PM

              Jean George??!! Interesting!! I'll let my friend decide!

              1. Charles Yu RE: Charles Yu Sep 13, 2012 06:32 PM

                Hello Chow-friends,
                Just a quick update.
                Apparently our final decision was not dictated by where we WANT to go but rather - What's available out there!!
                Spend a whole evening searching on 'Opentable' for openings! Le Bernadin, Per Se, EMP, Atela and even Tori Shin all have nothing available for the next 4 weeks!!!!!!! What is happening?! We are even willing to settle for off hours!
                Anyways, ended with Jean George, The Modern and Casa Mono. Hope my Singapore chowhounder friends will like the food!!

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                  buttertart RE: Charles Yu Sep 14, 2012 12:22 PM

                  I don't see how the Modern could disappoint.

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                    Charles Yu RE: buttertart Sep 14, 2012 04:27 PM

                    Thank you for your comforting words. However, based on my past experiences, when it comes to 'modern cuisine' Ha! , I have had my fair share of disappointments even at Michelin 3* like Guy Savoy and Pierre Gagnaire in Paris! Even EMP's tasting menu has a few dishes that looked good but fell flat on taste!
                    Keeping our fingers crossed!

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                      buttertart RE: Charles Yu Sep 14, 2012 04:45 PM

                      Everything we had was very, very flavorful. Not as gimmicky as Gagnaire (I haven't eaten at GS). The chef is Alsatian and excellent. Look for dishes with smoked components, he's genius with that taste.
                      (Do not like EMP, I found what I had too sweet, although that was several years ago. Now they're off on another tangent with incorporating a New York historical/experiential component into their menus.)

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                    bdachow RE: Charles Yu Sep 14, 2012 12:30 PM

                    I've had the same problem and have learned that if you call the restaurant, you have more luck. Ttry calling the day before you want to go in the afternoon (that's when most of the restaurants seem to do confirmations from my experience). Most of the places you listed will inevitably have some cancellations. Good luck!

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                      BillyBob RE: Charles Yu Sep 17, 2012 08:25 AM

                      Junsik in Tribeca. See review thread (recent). Just got reservation for Thursday on Open Table. Awesome

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