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Here's a toughie [Yorktown Heights]

arepo Sep 8, 2012 05:12 AM

I will be inYorktown Heights for a matinee opera in October. Before I leave for more NY city bound fare, I was wondering whether there might be a special little restaurant for an early dinner that might knock my socks off in the area.
Probably not but ... just askin'.

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    debmom Sep 8, 2012 05:17 AM

    If you are looking to stop on your way into the city, I would recommend Red Hat on the Water in Irvington. Beautiful views, wonderful food, great service. The food rages from a light bite to full meal.

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    1. re: debmom
      arepo Sep 8, 2012 05:34 AM

      Actually we are planning to drive directly to Philadelphia if we cannot find a decent place in Yorktown.

      Someone mentioned Peter Pratt's. Do you know of it?
      I looked at the Red Hat menu and was impressed with it. I will have to find out if it is on our way home.
      Thanks for the help.

      1. re: arepo
        wincountrygirl Sep 8, 2012 08:40 AM

        Peter Pratt's will not knock your socks off unless you are into the oldness of the place, which is kind of cool. . I really can't think of an option in Yorktown that fits the knock your socks off bill. What route will you take back to Philly? There may be better options on the way home.

        1. re: wincountrygirl
          arepo Sep 8, 2012 09:19 AM

          After DH decided he didn't want to drive a half hour before dining, (Red Hat), he liked the menu at Peter Pratt's so I guess that's going to have to be our option.
          Hope the food is decent. (eyes rolling)
          I noticed Thyme but it seemed to get mostly poor reviews.
          Thanks for all the help.

          1. re: arepo
            Nancy C Sep 8, 2012 09:29 AM

            Haven't gone, but an alternative to Pratt's (which is perfectly fine) might be the Jewel of Himalayas (Tibetan) also in Yorktown Hts. Other option might be Birdsall House in Peekskill (brew pub with pretty good food, probably a 15-20 min drive) on your way south.

            1. re: Nancy C
              arepo Sep 8, 2012 09:45 AM

              Thanks Nancy. I just can't see my DH being experimental enough with Tibetan cuisine. I guess we'll just stick with PP.

              1. re: arepo
                juliemoose Sep 8, 2012 03:51 PM

                I really think you won't be pleased with Peter Pratt's. I don't believe that their standard is as high as it used to be. My husband and I have been several times and feel we don't need to do it again. Probably no place in Yorktown will knock your socks off-but have a look at the menu for Thyme-It's in Yorktown as well.

                1. re: juliemoose
                  weedy Sep 8, 2012 04:20 PM

                  I would definitely suggest Thyme.

                  and it's the ONLY thing in the immediate area I really recommend

                  1. re: weedy
                    Elisa515 Sep 8, 2012 04:42 PM

                    Not arguing--I haven't been to Thyme. But it seems that the write ups here since it first opened have been really negative. Have you been there within the last year?

                    1. re: Elisa515
                      arepo Sep 8, 2012 08:10 PM

                      I hear you and I am going to go with what you all say.
                      We have a reservation which I shall cancel.
                      We'll get to our hometown by 7:30 and have dinner at one of our favorite haunts.
                      Thanks all for your honesty.

                    2. re: weedy
                      wincountrygirl Sep 9, 2012 04:21 AM

                      Thyme? I think it's gone way downhill which is why I didn't recommend it.

                      1. re: wincountrygirl
                        MisterBill2 Sep 14, 2012 07:46 PM

                        I had a terrible meal at Thyme recently and certainly would not go back. I'd certainly recommend Peter Pratt's over it, and it's certainly much better than "decent". Also agree with the recommendations on Zeph's, but it could be a little hard to find for an out of towner.

                        Jewel of Himalaya isn't all that experimental, especially if you like Indian. And it's very good, and very convenient to the theater (you could actually walk if you know where you're going, since you can walk up the stairs near A&P to get to the track near the theater).

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        otisman Sep 9, 2012 04:42 AM

        Zeph's in Peekskill is not far from Yorktown and is certainly a special little restaurant. A very classy evening.

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        1. re: otisman
          Nancy C Sep 9, 2012 12:17 PM

          I hear you re: Tibetan isn't for everyone...

          Zeph's is a very good idea...also wondering about Juliana's in Cortlandt Manor (a little hard to find, but we've had 2-3 solid meals there). http://www.juliannas-bistro.com/

          1. re: Nancy C
            DGresh Sep 9, 2012 04:56 PM

            I live a stone's throw from Julianna's and think it's pretty pedestrian. I do like Zeph's. But why this false choice between Yorktown and Philly? Yorktown I admit doesn't have much going for it, but head a bit further south into Westchester and there are lots of places. Just to throw one out (not in Westchester, but just across the bridge) what about Xavier's in Piermont? Or X2O (I'm a Kelly fan). Lots of other places in southern W'chester that would be lovely.

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          51rich Sep 9, 2012 02:48 PM

          How about iron horse grill in pleasantville,probably not far out of the way, and the map said 11.8 miles to yorktown heights on the taconiic

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            rkaene Sep 9, 2012 05:44 PM

            Zephs is the winner out of all of them. If you are on the early side of dinner Ocean House in croton is wonderful, but no reservations- if you get there at 5 you should be okay.croton is close to yorktown.

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            1. re: rkaene
              weedy Sep 9, 2012 07:57 PM

              maybe moot now, but still...

              I actually think Thyme is getting BETTER, not worse... although, like many places, I wish they'd get a bit more adventurous (as in the Blue Hill thread, I find simple usually equals boring). But I think Thyme does what they do WELL, and I have find there.

              on the OTHER hand, I find Zeph's to be hugely disappointing (and expensively so). The menu reads great; then the food is bland.

              but bottom line is I have to agree that way before you get to Philly there are a LOT of other, great, choices.
              There's even Manhattan!

              ps Ocean House, also bland. There isn't a thing on that menu I cannot cook as well (and do).

              1. re: weedy
                Elisa515 Sep 9, 2012 10:06 PM

                I think most of us (including you) will agree that your opinions about Zeph's and Ocean House are outliers her.

                1. re: weedy
                  frank113 Sep 10, 2012 05:04 AM

                  Very impressed, weedy. In spite of your low opinion of Ocean House(which I do not share) you've tried everything on the menu...or how else could you claim "there isn't a thing on the menu I cannot cook as well(and do)". You sure gave OH a fair shot at out-cooking you. Not a thing? Really?

                  1. re: frank113
                    weedy Sep 12, 2012 08:35 AM

                    I admittedly might have hit a bad night at Zeph's, and at those prices am not inclined to give them another go.

                    But Ocean House? Sorry, I stand by my feeling:
                    Crab Cakes or Fried Oysters with tartar sauce
                    Grilled Salmon with a tomato salad and vinaigrette
                    Sautéed Trout with a salsa verde
                    Chili rubbed shrimp with a corn salsa and lime vinaigrette
                    panko crusted cod in an aioli
                    plain seared tuna
                    skate in brown butter...

                    yes, there is nothing there that is anything I can't, and don't, cook all the time, and just as well.

                    it's just very PLAIN, especially for what it costs.

                    If you DON'T cook fish at home then I can see why you might like it.

                    1. re: weedy
                      frank113 Sep 13, 2012 06:54 AM

                      Sorry but the question remains: Have you, in fact, tasted everything on the OH menu? Yes or no? If you haven't how can you possibly claim that you can cook all those items as well? Plain? Or simple, clean and straight-forward? What it costs? Not so expensive at all. And I do cook fish at home. Often and well.

                      1. re: frank113
                        weedy Sep 13, 2012 06:14 PM

                        I have to taste their skate in a browned butter to know I can make an equally good skate in browned butter?

                        I've tasted ENOUGH of their menu, and seen enough of the rest, to know it's extremely plain and unexciting.

                        What do they do better than you do? (since you cook fish well at home)

                        1. re: weedy
                          frank113 Sep 14, 2012 05:51 AM

                          Simply put: Yes, you do have to taste a dish before judging its quality. Do food critics taste most of the dishes a restaurant makes before writing their review or do they just read the menu?

                          1. re: frank113
                            wincountrygirl Sep 14, 2012 09:25 AM

                            I really don't thing food critics taste everything. They go back a few times and get a sense of the food, service and ambiance. Really, do you have to taste every dish to know you don't like a place. I don't think so. By that standard you'd have to taste every dish to say that you do!

                            1. re: wincountrygirl
                              frank113 Sep 14, 2012 02:28 PM

                              Taste everything? No. Most things? Certainly, Several visits with several dining companions, all of whom order what the critic tells them to and all of whom let the critic taste their dishes. But if they claimed that they could cook EVERYTHING on the menu just as well wouldn't they have had to taste EVERY dish on the menu? Of course. And weedy's point was that he could tell just by reading the menu that he could cook EVERYTHING just as well.

                              1. re: frank113
                                weedy Sep 14, 2012 03:46 PM

                                Enjoy your semantic game if it makes you happy.
                                Bottom line is I can cook the 8 or 9 things on that menu I have tasted at least as well.
                                it's plain. it's boring. it's unexceptional.

                                I retract the word "everything" if it makes you happy. I'm sure there is a super secret double special unusual dish there that I am utterly incapable of that they only reserve for their most discerning customer.


                                1. re: weedy
                                  wincountrygirl Sep 15, 2012 03:02 AM

                                  Agreed, weedy!!

                                  1. re: weedy
                                    frank113 Sep 15, 2012 07:44 AM

                                    Yes, that would make me happy. Words mean something. "EVERYTHING" means every single thing. Not some things. Not 8 or 9 things. All things. Look it up if you don't believe me.

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                  byramgirl Sep 10, 2012 10:58 AM

                  I went to Peter Pratt's about a month ago and had a delicious meal. While the decor is dark and "old," for lack of a better term, the food was fantastic. I usually don't order chicken when dining out, but I couldn't resist the bone-in chicken stuffed with masa and manchego, with a side of poblano gnocchi. I love it when a chef isn't afraid of well-seasoning a dish, as was the fettuccine appetizer I had and the stuffed clams and ribeye by boyfriend enjoyed. Service wasn't anything to write home about, but it was a full house on a Thursday night, and it seemed like they were a little short-handed. All-in-all, an enjoyable meal.

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