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Spice_zing Sep 6, 2012 09:17 AM

My everyday dishes and cups have numerous scuff marks on them but are otherwise fine. DH says to get rid of them. Is it time?

Also have a stainless roaster that has a bit of pitting. Only used at Thanksgiving and a similar replacement would be costly. Are we ingesting something toxic?

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    FrankJBN RE: Spice_zing Sep 6, 2012 09:49 AM

    "numerous scuff marks on them but are otherwise fine"

    Hey, I have a silk sport jacket that is stained but otherwise fine. Of course I don't wear it, I just hate to get rid of it because there is nothing wrong with it other than it looks shabby due to numerous stains.

    Among the reasons we buy a set of dishware is because they look nice. Many of us, like you seem to, have two sets of dishware, everyday and one that looks even nicer.

    So now your everyday dishware doesn't look so nice any more. To repeat, how they looked was a consideration in their purchase. Why wouldn't it be a consideration in their replacement?

    1. drongo RE: Spice_zing Sep 6, 2012 01:08 PM

      I think the stainless roaster that has some pitting is fine.

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        John Francis RE: Spice_zing Sep 6, 2012 03:13 PM

        If you don't like the looks of the tablewear you use, and you have the money, why not replace it? Kind of wasteful to throw away stuff that has nothing seriously wrong with it, but people do it anyway, especially in America.

        I don't see that there should be any problem with the roaster. Even if there were rust in the pits, unlikely with stainless steel (and I assume you'd scrub it out anyway), it takes a lot of rust in your food to cause any long-term health problems.

        1. Chemicalkinetics RE: Spice_zing Sep 6, 2012 03:50 PM

          < Is it time? >

          It is up to you. They are functional, but may not look good. Your choice to keep them or not.

          <Are we ingesting something toxic?>

          I don't think so.

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            HillJ RE: Spice_zing Sep 6, 2012 04:06 PM

            Every time I retire a dish it goes in the tile pile. Eventually those tired dishes get broken into shards and become tiles for a mirror, tabletop or box project. I have never found the need to literally throw one out...replace with new and repurpose the old.

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              ellabee RE: Spice_zing Sep 6, 2012 11:48 PM

              If you decide to replace the dishes or the roaster, please consider donating them to a thrift store or freecycle rather than throw them away.

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                NE_Elaine RE: ellabee Sep 7, 2012 04:15 AM

                +1 on this suggestion

                I love Freecycle and have been amazed at what I have been able to score and at what people give away.

                I really try not to throw away anything that is still usable. If I don't want it, I freecycle it.

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                janniecooks RE: Spice_zing Sep 7, 2012 12:32 AM

                If you are embarrassed when your friends and family see your dishes, then replace them. As for the roaster, in our family we call the normal pitting and staining "patina"! If the roaster is functional, and especially since you only use it once a year, there is no reason other than vanity to replace it. Not that there's anything wrong with vanity as a reason for purchases, but I believe in the old ways represented by this adage: Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.

                1. greygarious RE: Spice_zing Sep 7, 2012 09:23 AM

                  As long as there are no chips that could cut hands or lips, I continue to use dishesm though when I have company I use undamaged pieces only. I would not replace the roaster, either. Waste not, want not, and all that. The decision to replace or not, in these cases, is a matter of vanity, not safety.

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                    Cam14 RE: Spice_zing Sep 7, 2012 09:24 AM

                    We went through several sets of everyday dishes due to chipping and breaking for a few years until we bought Fiesta. We've had it for 30 odd years. It hasn't broken or chiped, but the lighter colors do scuff up badly, so we buy a new place setting in a different color once in awhile and donate the old scuffed ones. Can't justify a new set of dishes but adding new colors is almost as good. I vote for donating the scuffed dishes and getting a fresh new set, when things look nice you feel generally much better overall. They don't have to be expensive.

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                      weezieduzzit RE: Cam14 Sep 11, 2012 03:56 PM

                      Scuffs come right off of Fiesta with Bar Keeper's Friend. (Fiesta are our everyday dishes.)

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                      mikie RE: Spice_zing Sep 7, 2012 11:25 AM

                      We had everyday dishes from Pfaltzgraff for quite a while and they worked reasonably well until I purchased new (better) flatware. The Mrs. blamed the scuff marks on me, claiming I had bought inferior flatware. Turns out I replaced inferior flatware with more nickel in the new flatware and the nickel was marking the plates. We cleaned them up a couple of times, but it was a lot of work and they scuffed very quickly again. It took a while but I finally convinced her to get new dishes. I cleaned them up one last time and sold them in a garage sale, matching serving pieces and all. We ate on four dishes and paper plates until we were convinced the new plates wouldn't mar like the old Pfaltzgraff did. We now have Apilco service for 12 and it's great. The old mared Pfalzgraff was just too discusting to eat off of. So I have to agree, if your plates look anything like mine did, it is time.

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                        Karen702 RE: mikie Sep 7, 2012 12:02 PM

                        I have Mikasa Silk Flowers that my Mom bought me for xmas 1985, my last gift from her. I can't replace them, they have the black marks from silverware, it comes off with Bartenders Friend. Takes a little time but worth it if you are sentimental like me ;)

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                          sueatmo RE: mikie Sep 7, 2012 10:22 PM

                          I continue to use my Pfaltzgraff even though it has darkened in places and has a few chips. I really am not happy with how it looks after 12 years of use.

                          However, we were astonished at how much better every thing looked after we bought our new Bosch dishwasher. My flatware and dishes improved a lot. But the plates that were darkened never complelely lightened up. I can't afford to replace these. But I don't think highly of Pfaltzgraff, even the American made stuff which I bought.

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                            mikie RE: sueatmo Sep 9, 2012 05:58 PM

                            As Karen702 mentioned above, Barkeepers Friend and a lot of elbow grease will clean them up, but it doesn't last long.

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                              sueatmo RE: mikie Sep 11, 2012 10:46 AM

                              I might try Bon Ami on them when I unpack them next month. (I hope it will be next month.) I've been using Bon Ami on the counters of my temporary quarters with good results. The counters are light in color and formica type laminate. The stains just sat there staring at me until I used a little Bon Ami. I don't know if I would have used it if the counters had been dark.

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                          Spice_zing RE: Spice_zing Sep 7, 2012 12:06 PM

                          Thanks for helpful replies. Will donate dishes to thrift store and buy new. Good to know roaster is ok.

                          1. monavano RE: Spice_zing Sep 11, 2012 04:23 PM

                            I'd like to replace our everyday Lenox set with a Pillivuyt from WS. I keep hearing my mother ask me "why would you do that?" when they're perfectly functional. She was so practical and would never think of replacing our everyday dishes just because they were dingy.
                            My Lenox has a bit of a raised pattern around the edge that's got some darkened areas and there are scuff marks, but overall it still looks OK.
                            Not as good as that new set from WS though!

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