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Cullen Skink Anyone? Unappetizing and strange foreign food names!!

opinionatedchef Sep 3, 2012 03:30 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cullen_skink

This food has just entered my food lexicon recently and I find Cullen Skink so hysterical
and unappetizing that I have to laugh. "Who wants more cullen skink? Now come on, don't be shy!" Don't get me wrong- I am no racist/nationalist here. I speak a number of languages including one which has its equal share of weird sounding things (it's called English) so i just laugh at anything that sounds particularly weird to me.

(This is another new one i just learned, though i don't find it unappetizing, just v unusual- kouign amann

)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouign-a...

Any weird non-English food names come to mind for you?(esp. the unappetizing ones!?)

  1. Will Owen Sep 3, 2012 04:57 PM

    The one that came immediately to mind was Spotted Dick, but then that's English …

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    1. re: Will Owen
      gaffk Sep 12, 2012 06:02 PM

      Funny, I just opened this thread to say that I am attending an event for Dickens' 200th birthday and one of the foods being offered is Spotted Dick. The others, like Bubble and Squeak, I've heard of. But I have no idea what to expect from Spotted Dick. I have resisted googling it to maintain the surprise. (Didn't realize the OP wanted non-English names; but really this illustrates how English and American English diverge.)

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        Harters Sep 13, 2012 01:33 AM

        I won't spoil your surprise of one of our best known traditional desserts but bear in mind it is not a light dish, so you may want to take things easy with earlier courses so you're not too full to enjoy it. Hope there's good custard to accompany it.

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          Peg Sep 13, 2012 04:07 AM

          At school I remember spotted dick always came with sweet white sauce, not custard.

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            paulj Sep 13, 2012 11:47 AM

            Harters probably has crème anglaise in mind. This a pouring custard, not the jello like baked custard that many Americans know.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_...

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              gembellina Sep 13, 2012 11:48 AM

              I believe Peg is from the UK too. At my school the only difference between custard and a sweet white sauce would have been the amount of yellow food colouring.

              1. re: gembellina
                paulj Sep 13, 2012 01:22 PM

                If the 'custard' is made with Birds, then the 'sweet white sauce' description fits better, since it uses a starch thickener.

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                  Harters Sep 13, 2012 01:24 PM

                  We managed to ruin our first Christmas dinner together back in 1972. A sweet white sauce would be a traditional accompaniment to Christmas pudding. Now, OK, nowadays, we'd put lashing of brandy or rum into but, back then we didnt know about cooking. So we bought a packet mix, only realising the disaster when we started to eat. Yep, a white onion sauce.

                  1. re: Harters
                    paulj Sep 13, 2012 01:36 PM

                    Onion sauce? wasn't that supposed to go on the Toad in the Hole? :)

                    http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/20...

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                      Harters Sep 14, 2012 02:59 AM

                      White onion sauce traditionally goes with a lamb/mutton roast in the winter, replacing the "fine weather" mint sauce. Onion gravy would go with your Toad.

                    2. re: Harters
                      sunshine842 Sep 13, 2012 01:54 PM

                      oh my dear lord -- the hair on the back of my neck stands up just thinking about onion sauce on a plum pudding. *shudder*

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                        gaffk Sep 13, 2012 06:52 PM

                        Oh no; I now know it's a plum pudding with a white sauce. Bummer.

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                          gembellina Sep 14, 2012 08:01 AM

                          You're ok, it's not a plum pudding - that's the Xmas pudding Harters is talking about!

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                            sunshine842 Sep 14, 2012 09:13 AM

                            plum, Christmas, whatever -- onion sauce on a sweet steamed pudding is gag-worthy.

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                              gembellina Sep 14, 2012 09:23 AM

                              I agree! But I think gaffk was worried we'd given the game away about what spotted dick is. It certainly won't be as revolting as that, gaffk!

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                                gaffk Sep 14, 2012 03:13 PM

                                Good to hear. If I was anticipating plum pudding with onion sauce, I'd really have to load up on the bubble & squeak so I'd have no room for dessert.

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                                  Harters Sep 15, 2012 12:48 AM

                                  Don't worry, gaffk. You'll enjoy it, I hope. A lovely traditional pudding and we'll continue to keep schtum about what it is.

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                                    gaffk Sep 15, 2012 04:04 PM

                                    Thanks Harters. All will be revealed tomorrow.

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                                      gaffk Sep 16, 2012 04:50 PM

                                      The custard was delicious, but if I never have that pudding (or was it cake?) again I'll be OK.

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                                        Harters Sep 17, 2012 01:01 AM

                                        Assuming that it was a "proper" Spotted Dick, then it was a steamed pudding, not a baked cake.

                                        http://uktv.co.uk/food/recipe/aid/513173

                                        1. re: Harters
                                          gaffk Sep 17, 2012 01:07 PM

                                          Perhaps it wasn't proper, as the cream was significatly whiter. The pudding wasn't really like a baked cake, but it had a much different, more crumbly consistency than I would expect from a pudding. Then again, I'm American ;)

                                          1. re: gaffk
                                            sunshine842 Sep 17, 2012 02:24 PM

                                            ah yes -- there's that "two countries divided by a common language" thing again.

                                            In Britain, "pudding" may or may not have anything at all to do with the stuff Bill Cosby sells -- that's actually called "custard". (I had some homemade custard -- but this was a sauce! -- this summer that had me thinking seriously of drinking it right out of the jug and then licking the plate clean)

                                            Pudding is even sometimes used as a catchall term for dessert.

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                                              Harters Sep 17, 2012 02:40 PM

                                              A steamed dessert is pretty much always going to be called a pudding.

                                              And, sunshine is right. Dessert may generically be called pudding. They may also be called "sweets" . I believe originally to distinguish them from "savouries" that might otherwise end a meal.It's very rare now to see a restaurant menu offering a savoury amongst its desserts but I'm certain to order one if there is.

                      2. re: gembellina
                        Peg Sep 14, 2012 08:49 AM

                        Indeed. We called it 'white custard'.

            2. Perilagu Khan Sep 3, 2012 05:17 PM

              wagyu

              edamame

              hummus

              tahini

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                rasputina Sep 7, 2012 02:03 PM

                I think hummus only sounds unappetizing in the bastardized English pronunciation.

              2. Tripeler Sep 4, 2012 02:56 AM

                Cullen Skink? First, I'd check the Bill to make sure the Price is Right.

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                  The Professor Sep 7, 2012 10:26 AM

                  LOL
                  ...am I the only one here old enough to get the joke? :-/

                  In any case I guess I'm the odd man out since I tend to gravitate towards strange named foods I've never tried.
                  And I wait until _after_ I've tasted them to inquire about the ingredients (what I don't know won't hurt me). ;-)

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                    FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 10:41 AM

                    I'm old enough, however, in this case, that means i'm also old enough that I don't find homophone linkage particularly amusing.

                    I can hear in my mind Ricky Gervais delivering this line then explaining it.

                    1. re: The Professor
                      Tripeler Sep 7, 2012 07:12 PM

                      Thanks, Professor. I was beginning to think that nobody got that one.

                    2. re: Tripeler
                      opinionatedchef Sep 7, 2012 11:05 PM

                      PUN ishment

                    3. sunshine842 Sep 4, 2012 03:03 AM

                      As far as Kouign-Amann...that's Breizh, one of the regional languages of the northwest of France...LOTS of things in Breizh sound odd to a foreign ear! (For that matter, things in MOST of the Celtic dialects sound odd to a foreign ear -- Irish, Gaidlig, Welsh, Manx, Cornish, and any others I'm inadvertently omitting -- musical and lovely to listen to, but completely indecipherable without help)

                      It's a lovely pastry when made right, by the way.

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                        flashria Sep 4, 2012 10:53 AM

                        cullen skink is soup with smoked haddock in......

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                          sunshine842 Sep 4, 2012 10:54 AM

                          Gaidlig. Which is, I think, what I said.

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                            DeppityDawg Sep 6, 2012 04:13 AM

                            Cullen is a village in Scotland. Maybe the name is Gaelic (Gàidhlig), but anyway it's a proper name, and IMO not particularly strange/foreign sounding. "Skink" is a Germanic word, not Celtic.

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                              sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 12:25 PM

                              according to the Wiki linked above, it's a Scots word " ultimately derived from Middle Dutch", and which "Others have hypothetized that it comes from the Middle High German word". I'm not saying it's not -- but the article would suggest that the Germanic hold on the word is somewhat tenuous.

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                                DeppityDawg Sep 7, 2012 12:33 PM

                                Both suggested hypotheses go back to a Germanic root. Anyway, trust the OED over Wikipedia (or the NYT Travel section), and notice that no one, in any of these sources, mentions any possibility of a Celtic origin for "skink".

                                1. re: DeppityDawg
                                  sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 12:51 PM

                                  But it is currently considered a Scots word, regardless of where it originated.

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                                    DeppityDawg Sep 7, 2012 12:53 PM

                                    And Scots is a Germanic language... You are aware of that, right?

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                                      sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 01:03 PM

                                      er....not according to most of the sources I've seen (Wiki is just one)

                                      Including this one: http://cranntara.org.uk/gaelic.htm which suggests that Gaelic is older than German (therefore cannot be descended from it...) More here: http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~cperc...

                                      The Celts were a different people -- they were not Saxon.

                                      1. re: sunshine842
                                        paulj Sep 7, 2012 02:28 PM

                                        What DeppityDawg is trying to point out is that there were, going back to the Middle Ages, 2 main languages in what is now Scotland - a Germanic English dialect in the SE, and a Celtic language in north.

                                        According to this map, in 1400 Cullen on the NE coast was in the Engish/Scots area, though Scottish Gaelic speakers were not far inland.
                                        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia...

                                        And to answer my previous question, there were both commercial and migration ties with Dutch and Flemish parts of the Continent.

                                        What ever the name origins of this soup were, there is a relatively late component - the use of potatoes (early 1800s). The same goes for New England chowders, where potatoes replaced earlier bread/cracker thickeners.

                                        1. re: paulj
                                          jen kalb Sep 7, 2012 02:41 PM

                                          the language derivation of "Cullen" is pointless since the soup is named after the place. For a small fishing village (now gentrified and fish-less since the sea in that area has been pretty much fished out), Cullen was once a major fishing port and smoking place for haddock ( finnan haddie). . Skink is another matter, I will rest on wikopedia for the derivation. Given the amount of sea trade between scotland, the low countries and scandinavia, there is no reason why a germanic derived term could not have crept in.

                                          As I said somewhere else on this thread its a great soup though you may laugh.

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                                          DeppityDawg Sep 7, 2012 04:13 PM

                                          We're not talking about Gaelic, but Scots. Two different languages.

                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_la...

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                                      paulj Sep 7, 2012 01:55 PM

                                      The Wiki article references this Guardian article

                                      http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyl...

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                                      FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 12:56 PM

                                      So the word is "derived from Middle Dutch",or "from the Middle High German" and you take from this that "the Germanic hold on the word is somewhat tenuous"?

                                      How many Germanic sources should be proposed before the relationship is no longer tenuous?

                                      1. re: FrankJBN
                                        sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 01:06 PM

                                        I was commenting in particular to "others have hypothesized"

                                        And as in my reply to DeppityDawg -- the Celts were NOT Saxon (and a lot of blood was spilled enforcing the fact that they were not!). Different tribes, different language.

                                      2. re: sunshine842
                                        paulj Sep 7, 2012 01:41 PM

                                        Another Scottish food term that is traced to (old) Dutch is scone (often rhyming with 'gone'). So what was the connection between Scotland and Holland? Trading, or some sort of migration?

                                2. re: sunshine842
                                  opinionatedchef Sep 4, 2012 01:26 PM

                                  yes, sunshine, you put your finger right on it>> Celtic languages = strrrrrange!(we're big trad celtic music fans, so we see and hear the language alot) But now you've given me some hours of googling, as i was not aware of the words gaidlig and manx .

                                  We're in the Boston area, and lucky us, had a super Kouign Amann the other day- our first and not last :-)

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                                    Wawsanham Sep 11, 2012 11:15 AM

                                    Despite being indecipherable, at least Gaelic sounds "English" in the sense that the phonetics (vowel qualities, and some other sounds) seem very English--in the sense that it seems to be made up "meaningless" English words. Afterall, these two languages have been in contact for around 1,000 years. I'm sure no one will agree with me, though.

                                  2. ipsedixit Sep 4, 2012 08:13 AM

                                    Sweetbreads?

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                                      MrsBridges Sep 4, 2012 08:55 AM

                                      That sounds so different from what it means. Conversely, I've seen "sweet meats" to mean pastry.

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                                        ipsedixit Sep 4, 2012 09:32 AM

                                        Or "sea cucumbers"

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                                      redfish62 Sep 4, 2012 08:16 AM

                                      "scungilli" has always sounded unappetizing to me

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                                        opinionatedchef Sep 4, 2012 01:28 PM

                                        DEFinitely!!

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                                        MrsBridges Sep 4, 2012 08:51 AM

                                        Cock-a-Leekie soup. I defy anyone to resist the urge to rearrange the word order.

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                                          Steve Green Sep 5, 2012 08:31 AM

                                          Note the description (and spelling) of the above soup on page 2 of this menu:
                                          http://www.queenviclasvegas.com/menu....

                                        2. pinehurst Sep 4, 2012 11:19 AM

                                          My beloved cretons is not the loveliest sound.
                                          Tastes awesome though.

                                          1. EM23 Sep 4, 2012 12:13 PM

                                            Crubeens – what they call pig’s feet in Ireland. When our Mom would give us a bath, she would grab our feet and say, “give me those crubeens for a nib”, as she would fake bite them:))

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                                              opinionatedchef Sep 4, 2012 01:31 PM

                                              em, i LOVE that story! th you!

                                            2. team_cake Sep 4, 2012 12:17 PM

                                              Kugel! I love sweet kugels, which are a Jewish noodle or potato pudding, similar to an American or European bread pudding in concept. My boyfriend and I are both Jewish, but he wasn't raised with much Ashkenazi home cooking, and to this day he can't get past the name "kugel" -- says it sounds like "Kegel." I tend to agree it's not a pretty word, but I love my mother's apple kugel. Yum!

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                                                FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 10:14 AM

                                                "he can't get past the name "kugel" -- says it sounds like "Kegel"

                                                Why yes it does. It also sounds like keagel and kogel and sort of like kigel. This is off-putting because...?

                                                "I tend to agree it's not a pretty word" Well, it's not kreplach for sure.

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                                                  team_cake Sep 11, 2012 02:42 PM

                                                  "This is off-putting because...?"

                                                  Because the thought of Kegel exercises doesn't make his mind go to food. Everyone is allowed their quirks and I don't think this one is so eccentric; I didn't say he was positively phobic about it, but the word "kugel" wasn't his idea of appetizing, either. As the OP mentioned, many foods have odd-sounding names that can be off-putting -- that's part of the point of the thread, isn't it?

                                              2. jen kalb Sep 4, 2012 12:27 PM

                                                love cullen skink actually - we made it while staying in Cullen (a lovely little historic town in Banffshire scotland) - but it is a funny name for a really excellent chowder type soup made with finnan haddie
                                                http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyl...

                                                I think Im going to be sorry to have posted on this sure to be hundreds of posts thread, however.

                                                1. meatn3 Sep 5, 2012 08:17 AM

                                                  Not a foreign word, but "scrod" just sounds nasty.

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                                                    Bkeats Sep 5, 2012 11:11 AM

                                                    How about the basic "wurst"? Why would you want to eat something that was the wurst?

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                                                      paulj Sep 5, 2012 11:14 AM

                                                      just got to give that 'w' a proper German pronunciation.

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                                                        tardigrade Sep 5, 2012 12:28 PM

                                                        I'd fear the wurst!

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                                                          porker Sep 5, 2012 12:41 PM

                                                          Vhats the vurst that can happen?

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                                                            Tripeler Sep 5, 2012 11:28 PM

                                                            There is a small German-style coffee and beer cafe in Tokyo called "Die Wurst".

                                                            It's pretty good, and I can think of worse ways to die.

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                                                            foiegras Sep 5, 2012 05:08 PM

                                                            Braunsweiger doesn't sound like the name of anything good ... Limburger cheese sounds questionable too.

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                                                              linguafood Sep 7, 2012 09:39 AM

                                                              Say that to someone who lives in Braunschweig.

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                                                              rasputina Sep 7, 2012 02:06 PM

                                                              You're pronouncing it wrong, which is why you are equating it with worst.

                                                            3. porker Sep 5, 2012 12:42 PM

                                                              Pocari Sweat doesn't sound very appetizing, but sure looks like a thirst quencher
                                                              https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/ima...

                                                              1. porker Sep 5, 2012 12:47 PM

                                                                Then theres the COCK flavored soup...
                                                                https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOa2XLM0Ntv28l45XdexAQmdg86MDPwWE9Cn_XUAEo0UqxXyF9

                                                                and COCK brand (special) fish sauce
                                                                https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/ima...

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                                                                  FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 10:18 AM

                                                                  I actually keep a jar of plainly labeled "cock flavoured seasoning" at my desk just so my fellow immature workers and I can get a giggle now and then.

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                                                                    porker Sep 8, 2012 06:08 AM

                                                                    *fellow immature* workers
                                                                    HA!

                                                                2. sunshine842 Sep 5, 2012 01:06 PM

                                                                  Bubble and Squeak
                                                                  Toad in a Hole.
                                                                  Angels on Horseback.

                                                                  In the lean college years, I did a stovetop version of tuna casserole that we called Sludge. My ex refused to eat it on the name alone.

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                                                                  1. re: sunshine842
                                                                    paulj Sep 5, 2012 03:09 PM

                                                                    but the OP wanted non-English dishes. Though a couple of those might be foreign for some of us posters.

                                                                    The Irish equivalent to Bubble and Squeak is Calcannon, while the Catalan version is Trinxat.

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                                                                      sunshine842 Sep 5, 2012 11:53 PM

                                                                      Hmmm....

                                                                      Bubble and Squeak to me is leftovers.

                                                                      Colcannon (to me) is mashed potatoes with cabbage.

                                                                      ???

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                                                                        FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 10:19 AM

                                                                        "Bubble and Squeak to me is leftovers"

                                                                        What, like any kind of leftovers? I've never seen this definition. From what national ethnicity did you hear this usage?

                                                                        1. re: FrankJBN
                                                                          sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 12:30 PM

                                                                          British - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_a...

                                                                          My British friends/colleagues/customers (most of whom don't know one another) have all used it in conversation at one time or another. Usually vegetables, but not necessarily.

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                                                                            FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 12:54 PM

                                                                            Thanx. The article you link does state in the second sentence "The main ingredients are potato and cabbage,", so it seems likely that it does not mean "leftovers", but rather potatoes and cabbage with leftovers.

                                                                            IOW, if there was leftover stew, it wouldn't be referred to as bubble and squeek.

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                                                                              Harters Sep 10, 2012 02:21 AM

                                                                              Bubble & squeak is potato and cabbage - traditionally the leftovers from the Sunday roast meal. If you were wanting to be fully traditional, you'd be turning any leftover roast meat (beef of lamb mainly) into rissoles to have with them. There are few finer Monday night dinner, particularly if you also have leftover gravy to finish the rissoles in.

                                                                              Bubble & squeak appears as part of the full fried English breakfast. But really only in the London area. For the rest of we Britons we'll have none of this heresy with the fry-up.

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                                                                      lifeasbinge Sep 12, 2012 06:15 PM

                                                                      "bangers and mash" - would just sound scary and/or revolting if I didn't know it was often yummy

                                                                    3. ipsedixit Sep 5, 2012 03:11 PM

                                                                      "Ants Climbing a Tree"

                                                                      Yum. Tree not included. Nor ants for that matter.

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                                                                        paulj Sep 5, 2012 03:35 PM

                                                                        Does the Chinese name sound unappetizing, or is it just the translation?

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                                                                          ipsedixit Sep 5, 2012 03:43 PM

                                                                          That's a literal translation from Chinese.

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                                                                            sunshine842 Sep 5, 2012 11:54 PM

                                                                            then there's the favorite snack of kids: Ants on a Log (celery, peanut butter, and raisins)

                                                                      2. porker Sep 5, 2012 03:16 PM

                                                                        chicken rundown

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                                                                          jumpingmonk Sep 5, 2012 04:15 PM

                                                                          Crappie (the fish)
                                                                          Roomy (a type of middle eastern cheese, possibly a brand name)

                                                                          Horehound slugs (I love the candies, and am well aware of where the name of the herb actually comes from, but even I can see how the name could lead to some very crude jokes from the less mature)

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                                                                            sunshine842 Sep 5, 2012 11:52 PM

                                                                            isn't that just roadkill? :)

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                                                                              Tripeler Sep 6, 2012 12:55 AM

                                                                              Maybe it is what we used to call Colonel Bucket's Chicken Blasphemy?

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                                                                                FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 10:21 AM

                                                                                Is that from Nat Lamp?

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                                                                                  Tripeler Sep 7, 2012 07:22 PM

                                                                                  No, it's from a sketch by the Congress of Wonders from an album in the late 60s. Other chains mentioned in the sketch were Soggy Diner and McBarnyard's Golden Starches. I still have the album somewhere.

                                                                          2. chefathome Sep 5, 2012 04:42 PM

                                                                            I personally lrather like the sound of "Cullen Skink" (and love the dish, too). But I find "geoduck" a bit humorous - both to look at and to pronounce.

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                                                                              foiegras Sep 5, 2012 05:11 PM

                                                                              Not to mention Turducken ... I think the name might have quite a bit to do with why I've never tried it.

                                                                            2. RUK Sep 5, 2012 06:29 PM

                                                                              I don't know if this word is still commonly used in Germany - a lousy cup of coffee / especially a coffee brewed from roasted Chickory root (so called Ersatz Kaffee) is called Muckefuck. (Now say this one three times fast....)

                                                                              edited to add- the u sound is like the vowel sound in boot.

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                                                                                Will Owen Sep 6, 2012 02:18 PM

                                                                                Well, that's as disappointing as learning that the resort area of Phuket is pronounced "Poo-ket."

                                                                                We have a friend in Nashville, charming woman and quite open-minded generally, who nevertheless refuses to consider eating at what's arguably the area's best soul-food restaurant simply because it shares its owner's family name: Swett's.

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                                                                                  RUK Sep 6, 2012 02:44 PM

                                                                                  Well, this here IS an English speaking group.....;-)

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                                                                                  linguafood Sep 7, 2012 09:45 AM

                                                                                  Muckefuck is still used.

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                                                                                    RUK Sep 7, 2012 02:31 PM

                                                                                    so it is, thanks!!

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                                                                                    sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 12:29 PM

                                                                                    There's a large liquid-transport company in Europe called Fockedey -- which inevitably causes fits of giggles, because it's just fun to say.

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                                                                                    FrankJBN Sep 7, 2012 10:26 AM

                                                                                    Cullen skink has no untoward association to me.

                                                                                    Kreplach - that doesn't sound like something good.

                                                                                    Another English/Gaelic one that doesn't sound too good and I was served dishes called this by my parents - slumgullion.

                                                                                    Mmm - slumgullion.

                                                                                    Here's a foreign one many of us might have enjoyed - bare bottom, er I mean nacktarsch. There are many different producers of Kroever Nacktarsch, an inexpensive German Riesling, featuring a bare-bottomed boy on the label, often being spanked.

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                                                                                      Tonality666 Sep 7, 2012 12:15 PM

                                                                                      Finnan haddie.

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                                                                                        rasputina Sep 7, 2012 02:07 PM

                                                                                        haggis

                                                                                        1. linguafood Sep 7, 2012 02:16 PM

                                                                                          Pinkel (a very greasy sausage from Northern Germany, generally served with cooked-to-death kale), as in "Grünkohl mit Pinkel"

                                                                                          *pinkeln = to pee in German.

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                                                                                            sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 02:22 PM

                                                                                            Having seen the way my Dutch friend served this particular dish...might it also refer to the plumbing involved?

                                                                                            I wish I were kidding -- she brought out the plates, with the sausage and two meatballs, um, thoughtfully arranged....she's a bit of a ditz, but she couldn't figure out why were were sputtering into our napkins. We thought she'd done it deliberately to make us laugh, but no...she was going for a visual balance on the plate!

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                                                                                              linguafood Sep 7, 2012 02:38 PM

                                                                                              He he, I can't tell ya. We got it served at my grandma's house up in Bremerhaven, and I believe the sausage was well incorporated into the kale mush. It's a great winter dish, but not very visually appealing. Your Dutch friend might be on to something :-D

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                                                                                                opinionatedchef Sep 7, 2012 11:15 PM

                                                                                                hysterical!

                                                                                              2. re: linguafood
                                                                                                RUK Sep 7, 2012 02:29 PM

                                                                                                I was in Hamburg a few years ago when this dish was in season. It is really delicious! Gotta love that name! :-)

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                                                                                                  linguafood Sep 7, 2012 02:40 PM

                                                                                                  I forgot it generally also includes potatoes. Stick-to-your-ribs stuff.

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                                                                                                    sunshine842 Sep 7, 2012 03:00 PM

                                                                                                    High-level comfort food -- the night we had it at my friend's house, it was frosty and the wind was howling -- a perfect night for a meal like that.

                                                                                                    She was pretty surprised that we Americans ate it and enjoyed it...she didn't realize that potatoes and cabbage and pork in some format is a pretty universal winter meal combo!

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                                                                                                      Tripeler Sep 7, 2012 07:27 PM

                                                                                                      You might also know about this beer named for the Austrian town of Fucking, brewed in the Helles style, naturally called Fucking Hell

                                                                                                      http://www.ezo-beer.com/eng/fucking-h...

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                                                                                                        linguafood Sep 8, 2012 08:13 AM

                                                                                                        Yep -- it's in the papers occasionally due to anglophone tourists stealing their street signs every year.

                                                                                                        I fucking love Helles, btw.

                                                                                                        1. re: linguafood
                                                                                                          sunshine842 Sep 8, 2012 08:22 AM

                                                                                                          well, if you're going to do that, head over to Southwest France and pick up a sign from Condom first....then after Austria, head back to the US to Intercourse and Blue Ball.

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                                                                                                            linguafood Sep 8, 2012 08:34 AM

                                                                                                            Intercourse's just around the corner, but Blue Ball is probably much further away '-)

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                                                                                                              gaffk Sep 12, 2012 06:13 PM

                                                                                                              But you're not far from Bird-In-Hand, PA ;) (Oddly, Intercourse and Blue Ball are also in PA.)

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                                                                                                              meatn3 Sep 13, 2012 07:58 PM

                                                                                                              In Tn. there is a road which connects two small towns called Dismal to Liberty Rd. I always avoided the road when leaving Liberty. I always took that path when leaving Dismal - seemed to make the day a bit more promising!

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                                                                                                              Harters Sep 13, 2012 01:34 AM

                                                                                                              Lovers of road signs (surely there are some of you out there) will want this on ein their collection

                                                                                                              http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1983152

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                                                                                                                meatn3 Sep 13, 2012 07:58 PM

                                                                                                                Very nice!

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                                                                                                                  Chatsworth Sep 22, 2012 10:44 AM

                                                                                                                  I always take my British visitors to the pub at Wankers Corner here in Oregon, and they always buy glasses, t-shirts etc to take back home.

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                                                                                                                    Harters Sep 22, 2012 10:50 AM

                                                                                                                    Can I have one, please? T-shirt XXL - thanks.

                                                                                                                    By the by, how does it come to be so named - I'm assuming not in the sense in which I and your Brit visitors would understand it. Or maybe it is :-)

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                                                                                                                      Chatsworth Sep 22, 2012 10:57 AM

                                                                                                                      It's named after the family that originated it (there's also a geographic location called Wanker's Corner!). They say it should be pronounced Wonkers, but I think they secretly capitalize on our British understanding. If you Google it I'm sure they have a website so you can order a tee shirt!

                                                                                                                      Sorry if this is off topic.

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                                                                                                                        tracylee Sep 22, 2012 11:35 AM

                                                                                                                        Heeeee! http://www.wankerscorner.com/pages/sh...

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                                                                                                                      TheHuntress Sep 22, 2012 09:46 PM

                                                                                                                      Haha, brilliant!

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                                                                                                          Wawsanham Sep 11, 2012 11:25 AM

                                                                                                          Overall, I think English outdoes German with bad-sounding names: spotted dick, toad in the hole, slumgullion, "veg" (what an ugly shortening), "pud" (yuck), corn mush. Maybe, Pinkel comes close as does Haferschleim.

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                                                                                                            linguafood Sep 11, 2012 02:22 PM

                                                                                                            Ooooh! Haferschleim! Great one. Much more fitting than oatmeal, in my opinion :-D

                                                                                                        3. Chowbird Sep 7, 2012 02:34 PM

                                                                                                          Fart soda!
                                                                                                          http://www.kazak.com/wordpress/wp-con...

                                                                                                          (Insert your own carbonation joke here).

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                                                                                                            calliope_nh Sep 7, 2012 03:14 PM

                                                                                                            Well, this is English, but the name "Toad in a Hole" doesn't call out "eat me".

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                                                                                                              paulj Sep 7, 2012 03:27 PM

                                                                                                              would you rather eat stargazy pie?

                                                                                                              'toad in the hole' is so familiar to me that it doesn't phase me any more than does 'hot dog'.

                                                                                                            2. jen kalb Sep 7, 2012 08:26 PM

                                                                                                              Im really sorry I responded to this thread because it will persist on my list forever - but in for a penny in for a pound

                                                                                                              I really find certain English names for foods most unappetizing - Dirt Balls, and similar. Yuck, yuck Yuck.

                                                                                                              1. opinionatedchef Sep 8, 2012 11:32 AM

                                                                                                                p.s. many of us speak many languages. i think that so often a word sounds Yuckola in another language when it sounds like a (non food)word in ou rown language. in this case, the dish cullen skink >>skunk . the cullen part sounds just fine. and from the ingredients, i bet the dish itself is delicious; wonder if i'll ever see it, with its scottish name, on a U.S. menu....

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                                                                                                                  tracylee Sep 9, 2012 09:26 PM

                                                                                                                  I didn't even think skunk until now! I know skinks as small lizards who would drop their tails in a heartbeat when trying to take them out of the terrarium to sell at one of the pet stores I worked at many, many years ago.

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                                                                                                                    512window Sep 12, 2012 12:46 PM

                                                                                                                    A skink is a kind of a lizard.

                                                                                                                    What is actually in Cullen Skink?

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                                                                                                                      sunshine842 Sep 12, 2012 12:51 PM

                                                                                                                      click on the link in the first post.

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                                                                                                                    pine time Sep 8, 2012 02:04 PM

                                                                                                                    Grew up near Cincinnati, eating goetta (assume that has German heritage). Great eats, but ugly word.

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                                                                                                                      linguafood Sep 8, 2012 02:47 PM

                                                                                                                      Wow, I just looked that up b/c I had never heard of it. Wiki claims it's German-American, which makes sense. Looks like a version of scrapple....

                                                                                                                      1. re: linguafood
                                                                                                                        paulj Sep 8, 2012 03:13 PM

                                                                                                                        pork flavored oatmeal

                                                                                                                        another variation on scrapple is livermush

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                                                                                                                          linguafood Sep 8, 2012 03:15 PM

                                                                                                                          I like my pork unadulterated.

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                                                                                                                            paulj Sep 8, 2012 03:20 PM

                                                                                                                            but you buy your pork from the supermarket, chop, ham, and bacon. These 'adulterated' forms grow out the need to use the whole beast, including liver and scraps.

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                                                                                                                              linguafood Sep 8, 2012 03:21 PM

                                                                                                                              Well, I generally get it from a local farmer -- and yes, I don't buy a whole hog and take it apart myself.

                                                                                                                              I would also have no problem eating pork liver without having to mix anything in with it.

                                                                                                                              Thankfully, I have the fortune to be able to choose what I put on my plate every day, and oatmeal isn't -- nor will it ever be -- on said plate, be that with or w/out pork.

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                                                                                                                                jen kalb Sep 9, 2012 11:53 AM

                                                                                                                                these are foods that make the meat go father - haggis and british bangers are other examples of charcuterie filled out with a significant amount of oatmeal or other starchy stuff. Goetta (and good examples of the above items) are actually pretty tasty - its not like they TASTE like or have the texture of the oatmeal.

                                                                                                                                ps Goetta is very local to Cincinnati and Covington KY area I think - definitely german american - we never even saw it as far out of the area as Columbus (where I grew up) and I never heard of it til I met his family, now in the NE.

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                                                                                                                                  linguafood Sep 9, 2012 11:54 AM

                                                                                                                                  I've had scrapple. Eh.

                                                                                                                                  I *get* why these foods have filler, I just don't like them very much.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: linguafood
                                                                                                                                    sunshine842 Sep 9, 2012 12:46 PM

                                                                                                                                    yes - -they definitely fall on the "making do" end of the spectrum.

                                                                                                                                    How blessed we are that we have a choice....

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                                                                                                                                      jen kalb Sep 11, 2012 09:30 AM

                                                                                                                                      I think sometimes these items are very good - and they can be a little bit lighter than all meat charcuterie. Costco even carried some nice irish bangers earlier this year.

                                                                                                                          2. re: linguafood
                                                                                                                            RUK Sep 8, 2012 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                            I never heard of it, must have been a very regional thing.

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                                                                                                                              linguafood Sep 9, 2012 09:48 AM

                                                                                                                              Well, it sounds like it's a German-American thing, so unless you grew up in the midwest, you likely wouldn't have.

                                                                                                                        2. Elster Sep 8, 2012 03:55 PM

                                                                                                                          I personally love 'Kaiserschmarrn' - sounds like a horrifying third reich torture, actually a light crumbly scramble of sweet puffy pancake shreds topped with powdered sugar, sultanas and cinnamon-apple puree. It's Austrian, and apparently the name comes from when the Kaiser's chef got so fed up with trying to find recipes that the Kaiser would actually like that he exasperatedly just threw a bunch of pancakey things together in a heap on a plate and the Kaiser said "What the heck is this Schmarrn??" (Schmarrn being a bit like 'crud' or 'flimflam'). It then became his favourite dessert :P

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                                                                                                                            jen kalb Sep 8, 2012 08:40 PM

                                                                                                                            wonderful dish - a great memory from Spatenhaus an den Oper in Munich

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                                                                                                                            miriamjo Sep 9, 2012 06:34 PM

                                                                                                                            Skink is Gaelic and means essence. Cullen Skink is a smoked haddock and potato dish.
                                                                                                                            Does "Clapshot" sound more appitizing? It's potatoes and turnips to be served with haggis.
                                                                                                                            Leave it to the Scots!

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                                                                                                                              DeppityDawg Sep 10, 2012 02:10 AM

                                                                                                                              It's not Gaelic, but Scottish English or Scots. See the confused discussion about this above. According to the Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia, the Gaelic name is "Brot Cuillin" (soup of Cullen), although most people will probably just stick in the English name "Cullen skink" when speaking Gaelic.

                                                                                                                              http://gd.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brot_Cui...

                                                                                                                              Dwelly gives the following 8 possible ways to say "essence" in Scottish Gaelic: brìgh, bladh, gré, spart, deargan, fìor-gloine, mullach.

                                                                                                                            2. TheHuntress Sep 11, 2012 05:19 AM

                                                                                                                              Had to respond to this...

                                                                                                                              When I was growing up, my lovely Welsh grandmother used to lovingly make...wait for it...

                                                                                                                              Faggots and peas.

                                                                                                                              Sounds totally unappetising and tasteless for more than one reason. But I must say that that delightful liver dish was quite delicious. Not something I could share at school when talking about what we ate the previous night, but I always enjoyed it. I now wish I had learned how to make it for my boy, but I think I would rename it to something more appetising and less offensive.

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                                                                                                                                Harters Sep 11, 2012 05:39 AM

                                                                                                                                Of course, only an issue where the word "faggot" might be term of abuse which, generally speaking, it isn't in the UK.

                                                                                                                                It might get even more complicated as the most readily available brand are Brains Faggots - and, no, they're not made from Brains.

                                                                                                                                If you're looking for a more PC name for them, then here in North West England we call them "savoury ducks". And, no, they don't have duck in them. Not even duck brains.

                                                                                                                                And, on strictly personal note (and one which is shamefully honest) in years gone by, I used to suck on around 40 fags a day.

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                                                                                                                                  TheHuntress Sep 11, 2012 06:10 AM

                                                                                                                                  Yes, the connotations are different everywhere you go. I think in Australia we tend to pick up both British and American slang.

                                                                                                                                  My nan used to make faggots from scratch, I didn't realise they came ready made...but then Australians aren't really known for their consumption of offal. I do like savoury ducks, if I ever get around to making them I shall use that term.

                                                                                                                                  And good work on giving up the fag habit :) It always makes this nurse happy to hear that.

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                                                                                                                                gembellina Sep 11, 2012 02:19 PM

                                                                                                                                Head cheese (American English). Quite happy with the idea of terrine made from bits of head and face, but the name "head cheese" makes me think of ear wax and toe jam. Prefer the (British) English name of "brawn".

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                                                                                                                                  paulj Sep 11, 2012 03:07 PM

                                                                                                                                  how about 'souse'?

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                                                                                                                                    gembellina Sep 12, 2012 06:50 AM

                                                                                                                                    To me soused means drunk! The "pickled" connection I suppose.

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                                                                                                                                    sunshine842 Sep 12, 2012 09:41 AM

                                                                                                                                    how about "fromage de tête"?

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                                                                                                                                      gembellina Sep 12, 2012 02:15 PM

                                                                                                                                      the french name gives it a veneer of glamour in a way that the literal translation just doesn't!

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                                                                                                                                        porker Sep 12, 2012 03:27 PM

                                                                                                                                        You could eat "phoque" in Montreal - maybe not unappetizing, but surely strange sounding ordering phoque off a menu (and it aint pronounced fokai...)
                                                                                                                                        An instance where the French does not add veneer.

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                                                                                                                                    smartie Sep 11, 2012 08:39 PM

                                                                                                                                    plenty of weird sounding Yiddish/German words ..
                                                                                                                                    kneidelach
                                                                                                                                    gefilte
                                                                                                                                    lockschen
                                                                                                                                    kreplach (mentioned above)

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                                                                                                                                      porker Sep 12, 2012 09:38 AM

                                                                                                                                      Yeah, kreplach sounds like the stuff that comes up with a very old smoker's cough...

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                                                                                                                                        Sooeygun Sep 13, 2012 09:48 AM

                                                                                                                                        Kreplach sounds Klingon to me. And Klingons eat some vile stuff.

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                                                                                                                                          porker Sep 13, 2012 10:47 AM

                                                                                                                                          Then theres cling-ons - kreplach sounds like it may also apply here.

                                                                                                                                    2. boogiebaby Sep 12, 2012 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                      Not a dish, but a name for a food item.

                                                                                                                                      My ethnicity is Indian, but my family is based in Singapore, Malaysia, Myanmar and Australia. That being said...

                                                                                                                                      "Susu" in Hindi/Punjabi (Indian) is "urine", in kid-speak. (the equivelent of "pee pee" here)
                                                                                                                                      "Susu" in Malay means "milk".

                                                                                                                                      I got a good laugh out of that growing up. :)

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                                                                                                                                        jumpingmonk Sep 12, 2012 02:04 PM

                                                                                                                                        That is sort of similar to something someone told me with regards to Philippine food. Namey that puto (which is a kind of rice cake, similar to the kind you find in Korean and Shaghaiese cooking) also happens to be a fairly rude word in Spanish (the meaning they gave was somewhere between calling someone a wimp and calling someone the three letter "f-word") what I always found a little funny about this is that, given it's history there are probablly a fairly high number of Spanish speakers in the Phillipines, and yet both terms still stay as they were.

                                                                                                                                      2. JP_nyc Sep 13, 2012 07:20 PM

                                                                                                                                        Barfi (Indian milk sweet)
                                                                                                                                        Hagel Slag (Dutch chocolate sprinkles)
                                                                                                                                        "Herring under fur coat" (Russian Sel'd' Pod Shuboi / Сельдь под шубой)
                                                                                                                                        Krap (carp, in Albanian)

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                                                                                                                                          jumpingmonk Sep 13, 2012 08:28 PM

                                                                                                                                          I never found it unappetizing (since my parents explained the name to me) but every now and then, my parents would make me Joe Froggers (it's a kind of Gingerbread with a lot of molasses and rum in it) while i loved them, a lot of my friends refused to try them, as they assumed they ACTUALLY had frogs in them (plus a few who thought I was saying some sort of nasty racist remark)

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                                                                                                                                            porker Sep 14, 2012 04:11 AM

                                                                                                                                            Kind of a reverse, but I heard that years ago, when Gerbers baby food came on the scene, someone decided to give it away in third world impoverished countries. Many people refused to eat it; since theres a picture of a baby on the label, they assumed they ACTUALLY had babies in them.

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                                                                                                                                              jumpingmonk Sep 14, 2012 04:40 AM

                                                                                                                                              I've heard the same thing. Apparantly the basis was that, as a large number of the people in rural Africa are still illeterate, it is common practice there to put pictures of whatever is inside of the cans or jars on the label. so when they saw jars with pictures of babies on them..........

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                                                                                                                                                DeppityDawg Sep 14, 2012 05:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                Not only illiterate, but also stupid/barbaric enough to believe that people would put babies in jars and sell them as food, right? This is urban legend at its ugliest.

                                                                                                                                                http://www.snopes.com/business/market...

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                                                                                                                                                  Harters Sep 14, 2012 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                  +1 on the ugliest remark, DD.

                                                                                                                                                  Some urban myths can be funny, but this one has a very unpleasant undercurrent.

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                                                                                                                                                    jumpingmonk Sep 14, 2012 05:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Hey, Hey Hey, I never said I BELIEVED the story. I probably should have put a line to that effect in the previos post (just forgot) my very sincere apologies.

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                                                                                                                                                      Harters Sep 14, 2012 08:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                      No worries, jm. It's not the folk who read these things who irritate - it's the ones who start them (and their motivation in doing so). The other along the same lines is the myth that folk in developing countries only use a lot of spices to mask the fact that their meat is "off". Never occurs to these fuckwits that we all cook with things that are local to us.

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                                                                                                                                                        jumpingmonk Sep 14, 2012 08:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Agreed. Though, given that a lot of spices do contain compounds that are anitbacterial (thymol, allicin etc.) or immunostimulant, that one may have a grain (of paradise?) of truth in it's basis. That is, it is not true that spoiled meat would be the sole reason for a cultures embacing of highly spiced food, but if you live in an area where there isn't readily available refrigeration (especially a tropical one, where spoilage is going to be fairly rapid) using a lot of the right spices may be a very sensible approach to extend your meat's shelf life (especially if you consider salt a spice). And if your meat has in fact gone off a little, the right spices could turn the meal into one you have a chance of getting through without getting sick.

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                                                                                                                                                          Harters Sep 14, 2012 08:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Salt aside, the spices grown in tropical countries are not generally preservatives, though.

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                                                                                                                                                            jumpingmonk Sep 14, 2012 09:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Oh, I did not know that. My apologies.

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                                                                                                                                          Querencia Sep 16, 2012 10:50 AM

                                                                                                                                          I love the description of Star Gazy Pie, a Cornish fish pie in which small whole fish with their heads on are placed on top of the pie with their heads in the center, like the spokes of a wheel, then a top crust with a big round hole cut in it is placed over the fish before the pie is baked. Thus, the fish are star-gazing.

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                                                                                                                                            paulj Sep 16, 2012 12:54 PM

                                                                                                                                            Entries on Wiki under the category of British pies:

                                                                                                                                            Apple pie
                                                                                                                                            Bakewell tart
                                                                                                                                            Banoffee pie
                                                                                                                                            Bedfordshire clanger
                                                                                                                                            Black bun
                                                                                                                                            Custard tart
                                                                                                                                            Lemon meringue pie
                                                                                                                                            Manchester tart
                                                                                                                                            Mince pie
                                                                                                                                            Rhubarb pie
                                                                                                                                            Treacle tart

                                                                                                                                            Savoury
                                                                                                                                            Bacon and egg pie
                                                                                                                                            Bedfordshire clanger
                                                                                                                                            Bridie
                                                                                                                                            Butter pie
                                                                                                                                            Chicken and mushroom pie
                                                                                                                                            Corned beef pie
                                                                                                                                            Cornish pasty
                                                                                                                                            Cottage pie
                                                                                                                                            Cumberland pie
                                                                                                                                            Curry pie
                                                                                                                                            Devizes pie
                                                                                                                                            Fish pie
                                                                                                                                            Game pie
                                                                                                                                            Homity pie
                                                                                                                                            Killie pie
                                                                                                                                            Meat and potato pie
                                                                                                                                            Melton Mowbray pork pie
                                                                                                                                            Pork pie
                                                                                                                                            Scotch pie
                                                                                                                                            Shepherd's Pie
                                                                                                                                            Squab pie
                                                                                                                                            Stargazy pie
                                                                                                                                            Steak pie
                                                                                                                                            Steak and kidney pie
                                                                                                                                            Woolton pie

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                                                                                                                                              paulj Sep 16, 2012 01:05 PM

                                                                                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bak...

                                                                                                                                              Star gazy pie is associated with Mousehole in Cornwall (Mowzel), and the children's book The Mousehole Cat.

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                                                                                                                                                sunshine842 Sep 16, 2012 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                eating Star gazy pie in Mousehole SOUNDS like a children's book!

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                                                                                                                                              HeBrew Sep 16, 2012 11:41 AM

                                                                                                                                              Igunaq...

                                                                                                                                              1. Caroline1 Sep 17, 2012 02:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                I looked up a few recipes for Cullen skink. They were all pretty similar, the greatest difference being whether to use onions or leeks. Not a very time consuming soup either. It sounds well worth a try. Then I looked for places to order finnan haddie... My god! Talk about sticker shock! Cullen skink is now on a back burner. Very back burner! Twenty something a pound was the cheapest I could find, plus shipping. For smoked dried fish? Sheesh... I'll make do with a vichyssoise, which is pretty close to Cullen skink, just without the fish.

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                                                                                                                                                  pippimac Sep 18, 2012 02:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                  A New Zealand delicacy (some think) is muttonbird, the unfledged young of the shearwater, a seabird.
                                                                                                                                                  How about 'muttonbird' for an offputting name?
                                                                                                                                                  Muttonbirds are stuffed with fish by their parents, until they're unlucky enough to be pulled from their burrow, salted and eaten by a few hardy souls.
                                                                                                                                                  They are extremely fat, so they taste like very fishy, very bony duck confit.
                                                                                                                                                  I've only had it once, and I actually enjoyed it, but I'm one of those people that munches on anchovies...

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                                                                                                                                                    Caroline1 Sep 18, 2012 07:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                    hmmm... Interesting eating habit you have there. I don't find "muttonbird" off-putting at all, but then I love mutton! But I think I'd be a bit bummed if my mutton tasted like fish! I wonder how the plump little devils would taste if they were captured and further fattened on a non-fish diet? I can hear the street vendors now, "Get your farm raised muttonbirds here!" If it catches on, it could wipe out the whole species!

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                                                                                                                                                    stilldontknow Sep 21, 2012 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                    It doesn't need to be Finnan Haddie. Any smoked haddock will do.

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                                                                                                                                                      paulj Sep 21, 2012 08:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Smoked fish, with the exception of salmon, is pretty rare and expensive in most parts of the USA.

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                                                                                                                                                        sunshine842 Sep 22, 2012 12:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                        depends on where you are -- the Midwest and South have it -- you have to look for it, but it's there.

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                                                                                                                                                          Harters Sep 22, 2012 12:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                          It's can be difficult (or/and expensive) to try and replicate dishes from a foreign country.

                                                                                                                                                    2. Bill Hunt Sep 18, 2012 07:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                      This will teach me to get to a thread late.

                                                                                                                                                      Everyone has stolen my thunder, and mentioned everything that I had saved up in my mind.

                                                                                                                                                      Oh well, here's my other offering: balut. The name is not quite so bad, but for me, with my Western sensibilities, the real thing is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(egg)

                                                                                                                                                      Hunt

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                                                                                                                                                        paulj Sep 18, 2012 07:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                        One of my favorite produce stands has these in front by the checkout counter. One of these days I'll get up the nerve to buy one or two ...

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                                                                                                                                                          gaffk Sep 19, 2012 01:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Bill, your link is broken (as a fellow sloppy copy & paster I can relate . . . ) Looks like you cut off the last parens and then added it manually. The vagaries on the net. But it got me close enough to find it (unfortunately for me ;)

                                                                                                                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(egg)

                                                                                                                                                          Unlike paulj I'll never get up the nerve to buy one, let alone two!

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                                                                                                                                                            sunshine842 Sep 19, 2012 02:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                            once in a while, the board software screws up the formatting...

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                                                                                                                                                              paulj Sep 19, 2012 02:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                              A parenthesis at the end of a line is usually moved to the next line. I've learned to add a space after a line end parenthesis to prevent this.

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                                                                                                                                                              Bill Hunt Sep 19, 2012 07:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                              It still works just fine for me. Sorry that your browser, or IP supplier is not showing it.

                                                                                                                                                              Whatever, it is not something that I want. Once, long ago, I witnessed live baby birds being thrown into hot oil, in a sauce pan, and people pushed and shoved for servings. Let's just say that I was not one, and moved on - nothing to see there...

                                                                                                                                                              Sorry about the link,

                                                                                                                                                              Hunt

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                                                                                                                                                                sunshine842 Sep 19, 2012 11:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                yeah, my Western-culture self couldn't deal with that one.

                                                                                                                                                                I try to be open-minded, but that's way outside the fence for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Bill Hunt Sep 21, 2012 08:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Going way back, my tennis doubles partner was Chinese. His family had many restaurants, and when family members were married, we were guests. We were often seated with his grandmother, who took us both (Westerners) under her wing. She would instruct us, as there were usually 13+ courses, and help us prepare for the next. She would warn us, "You no like next dish." We listened, though DID taste. Her next comment was usually along the lines of "I told you, that you would not like that!" Over the years, we began to become more familiar with the general menus, and began to trust Daryl's grandmother. She also began to understand that we wanted to taste everything, BUT were Westerners, so would not like everything. We grew together, and had great fun, as the brothers and sisters were wed. Along the way, we both learned many "new" tastes, and did expand our horizons, but never full embraced some dishes - that was just us, and his grandmother knew what we were likely to enjoy.

                                                                                                                                                                  Now, while there were some "interesting" dishes, there were no balutes.

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                                                                                                                                                                    sunshine842 Sep 22, 2012 12:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    that's cool.

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