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Staub versus Le Creuset portion sizes (specifically)

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Hi,

Hope you can help, I am torn between the Le Creuset Coastal Blue and the Staub Graphite casseroles as both look gorgeous so have decided to buy one (or more) of each but whilst I know exactly what portion sizes i'm buying into with Le Creuset, I cannot find any info on this for the Staub so I fear it will be down to guess work unless anyone out there can point me in the direction of any 'official' portion spec?

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  1. What do you mean by potion sizes? Doesn't Staub list its size in quarts?

    This one is 3/4 of a quart.

    http://www.cutleryandmore.com/staub/r...

    while this one is a 6 quarts:

    http://www.amazon.com/Staub-6-5-Quart...

    1. I don't quite understand what you mean by portion sizes either.

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      1. re: rasputina

        Is the word "portion" really not used in the US? I'm surprised. It's simply the amount of food which will serve one person. OP's question was not perfectly worded, maybe, but I don't think there was any mistaking what they were asking.

        I find as a rough guide that the number of servings a casserole pan will produce is about the same as its litre or quart capacity. Beef casserole for 4 people three quarters filled my 24cm LC last night, which I think is about 4.5 litres.

        1. re: Robin Joy

          Portion size is indeed used in US, but not for cookware. Usually, it is for describing foods, such as the a particular microwave package is of 10 serving sizes, or a bag of chicken drumsticks for a family of 4...etc.

          The reason I find portion size for a cookware is rather not useful because it depends what is being cooked in it. I can finish a quart size (a liter volume) of turnip green, but I wouldn't/shouldn't finish a quart size pork shoulder. 1 quart for 1 serving is pretty good for many items.

          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

            Oh yes, definitely recipe dependent. That LC pot will easily produce pasta sauce for ten people, so I guess there's no single answer.

          2. re: Robin Joy

            nevermind, Chem said the same thing I posted.

        2. Hi, Thanks for your responses, apologies, it would appear I had a glitch in my system since joining hence i've only just been able to view these. As I am in the UK I work with litres not quarts so thats my first bit of confusion but in keeping with my original query, as its not always possible to readily handle these pots prior to purchase (I have only found one place selling limited supply of Staub in my vicinity), on viewing on line I find it helpful if the product indicates approximately how many people it will feed per specific capacity. Le Creuset for eg let me know that their 24cm round casserole holds 4.2 litres giving a portion size 4-5 and ditto their 30cm round casserole holds 8.4 litres giving a portion size 8-10. Again as much of the info I find on Staub is in quarts i'm back to being confused :) so I just wondered do they actually provide this info and I just missed it along the way...?

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          1. re: seuzy58

            One quart is almost one liter, but there are a US quart and a UK quart. Anyway, hopefully this will be helpful for you:

            http://www.metric-conversions.org/vol...

            I agree with Robin, the serving size can be thought of "1 liter = 1 serving size" Of course, this entirely depends on what you are cooking. I don't remember seeing serving size for Staub cookware.

            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

              Hi, thanks for the responses i'm having to access this via Internet Explorer as AOL keeps blocking me from fully accessing for some reason. The bit about 1 litre per serving is helpful, given this would you say the Staub Cocotte 24cm will feed about 2-3 people? I live alone mostly as my other half works overseas but I also have 3 grown up sons who visit intermittently and each have partners so I was thinking i'd opt for the Le Creuset 20cm round for serving just me and then either the Staub 33cm oval (6.5 litre UK) or the 28cm Le Creuset round (6.7 litres UK) (for those occasions everyone needs feeding. I have seen the 28cm Le Creuset and its quite a large pot and any bigger I fear it would sit unused? I will opt for another pot (either m/f) to cover up to 4 people if I have my friends around...any ideas on this....this 'middle pot could be used as back up if the 28cm Le Creuset needs a boost?

              1. re: seuzy58

                <would you say the Staub Cocotte 24cm >

                I believe the Staub 24 cm is 4 quart (4 Liter) in volume, so it should be more than enough for 3 serving size. In fact, it should be even fine for 5 people. I think it really depends how much your guests can eat.

                <I have seen the 28cm Le Creuset and its quite a large pot and any bigger I fear it would sit unused?>

                One thing be aware is that these enameled cast iron cookware can be very heavy when filled with food. Like you said, anything larger than 6 Liter will be pretty big and heavy.

            2. re: seuzy58

              ~1 Qt = ~1L = ~1 serving

              On a different note, I think the finish on the Staub cookware is in general nicer.

              I'm a little curious about the concern for portion size over capacity too. When I think of a "casserole" I imagine a pot not as tall and wider so, I would also suggest a "dutch oven" of slightly larger total capacity might be in order (you don't have to fill it up to the top to use it ;-).

            3. I don't know if this will help, but the Staub is a scant 5 qts, while the LC is 5.5 qts. in a medium size. Go to staubusa.com and you will find the #'s of the pots and the sizes in litres. The LC pot also has more bottom area as the Staub pot tapers in more to a smaller bottom. The LC pot better holds a chicken in that size if that's important to you. To get a rough the centimeter size of the pots multiply the number size of the pot by .39. That's the number on the bottom. The LC 5.5 is a # 26 I think.

              1. Sorry should have added....if I opt for the 28cm Le Creuset as the 'family' pot then this 'middle' sized pot I need to feed 'up to' 4 folks will likely be a Staub (confused ha) so what size should I go for here...?

                Or...if I go for the Staub 33cm oval as the 'family' pot then the middle pot will be Le Creuset...again what size :)

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                1. re: seuzy58

                  Seuzy58, just saw your recent posts ....

                  If I were in your position, I'd get a 6.5L oval and 4~4 1/2 quart round or oval pots (dutch ovens). Staub and LC use slightly different terminology so, that complicates things a little.

                  http://www.cutleryandmore.com/staub/r...
                  4 quart round 10 x 5.5-inches deep

                  http://www.cutleryandmore.com/staub/r...
                  5 1/2 quart round 11.1 x 5.9-inches deep

                  An oval "Dutch Oven" is a little more versatile because it is easier to fit a piece of boned meat, chicken, or similar oblong things. Beans don't care if it's a round or an oval dutch oven. For what I think of as a traditional casserole, a shallower pan is better for serving ease though it's just a convenience issue and it will cook the same.

                  Since you generally don't cook for large groups and, in my experience Europeans don't eat nearly as much as us "Yanks", I'd go smaller. How often would you use a 5L or 6.5L pot or dutch oven? When you have 5 to 7 people over for dinner, how hard would it be to use two pots? For example, a 4 1/4L 'Coq au Vin' Oval Dutch Oven for a chicken or small roast and 4L or 5 1/2L round Dutch Oven for beans, stew, soup, rice-beans-ham/"spicy" sausage? Timing to use both concurrently in the oven can be a little tricky but, one in the oven and one on the stove top is easy. Best of all, both pots are usable and size appropriate for 1 to 3 people which is going to be the majority of your cooking.

                  1. re: Sid Post

                    Hi, you got me spot on as an English lass I am not a big eater tho' for me personally thats more as a consequence of my experience with bowel cancer (I did win...just about) so my diet is also more geared towards healthy eating (ignore the Sauvignon Blanc) and you make a good point about the 2 smaller pots over one biggy. I should add though that I do enjoy batch cooking as in making a huge pot of spag bol or chilli or other that I can freeze as individual portions hence the penchant towards one ginormous pot.

                    I clicked on your links and I 'think' the 4 quart you refer to is the 24cm but am unsure about the other 5 1/2 quarts...is it the 26cm or 28cm? Random query...do the US Staub cocottes have the cm marked inside the lid like they do for the UK market or is this just indicated in quarts for you guys?

                    1. re: seuzy58

                      Hi am just choosing between lc 26 or 28 for daughter for Xmas. She wants to serve 6 (English size portions) and have 2-4 portions left over . An going to go for 26 as 28 huge and I think would rarely get used and would be very heavy to handle when full 28 weighs 6 kilos empty. She has a 24 which does 6 portions so think if you need to cook vast amounts use two casseroles!

                  2. re: seuzy58

                    I have both LC and Staub and I l much prefer the build quality and finishes of the Staub. They're different sizes and for almost everything I make, the 5 qt Staub is plenty of room, including enough for a large chicken plus veggies.

                    I only use the (much larger) LC for very large quantities or for making lobsters or stock with two whole chickens plus veggies, etc.

                    1. re: mcf

                      Hi mcf when you refer to the (much larger) LC what size are you referrng to...the 28cm?

                      1. re: seuzy58

                        30 cm, I believe or 8 3/4 qts.

                  3. I can't tell you how many people you can serve from each pot but I can provide sizes for the Staub and tell you what I use. I have three round cocottes, 20 cm, 2.24 L, 26 cm, 4.6 L, and 30 cm, 8.35 L. Of these, I use the 26 cm the most. The 30 cm is when cooking for a large group, a harty stew for example, and the 20 cm for side dishes. I also have a 24 cm saute that's 2.4 L capacity that I use for dishes without much liquid, braises for example.

                    The Staub sizes are as follows:
                    Round, 20cm/2.24L, 24cm/3.8L, 26cm/4.6L, 28cm/5.85L, and 30cm/8.35L
                    Oval, 29cm/4.25L, 31cm/5.4L, and 33cm/6.5L

                    With regard to portions and LC, I believe the diameter on both give similar capacities unless they are labeled as "short wide" for example where the diameter to height is not the normal ratio.

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                    1. re: mikie

                      Hi Mikie.

                      Thanks for your helpful response...i'm still erring towards a mix of the Staub and the LC as I love the Coastal Blue colourway of the latter (even their dinky 20cm pot for peeps) and the Graphite of the former....so methinks am opting for a large Staub possibly like you the 30cm round (or 33cm oval) for larger family groups. mcf above said he can fit a large chicken in his 5 qt Staub (which I think is the UK equivalent of the 26cm?)

                      1. re: seuzy58

                        Yes, there's a 26 inside the lid of my Staub. One thing about LC is that the inside discolors and just looks bad with use. If that doesn't bother you, then that's not a concern. My Staub is black inside, so no discoloration to annoy me. Both of mine are round. And I'm a she, not a he. :-)

                        1. re: mcf

                          Ha sorry mcf :)....I think I clocked a bit of a debate somewhere on here about the benefits of using bleach to clean the inside of the LC versus (so its stays stain free) versus not doing so. We have an old fashioned cleaning product in the UK known as household amonia here that really stinks (and makes your eyes smart) which is really good for stain removal (and excellent for disintegrating burnt on jam from a maslin pan) though i'm not sure how it would work with the generalized staining.

                          1. re: seuzy58

                            <makes your eyes smart>

                            Wow, Brits do speak differently.

                            1. re: seuzy58

                              I used the bleach but as others suggested, it really does appear to degrade the surface. Even diluted a lot. We have ammonia here, too, btw. :-)

                              1. re: mcf

                                <it really does appear to degrade the surface>

                                Same experience. It makes the glossy surface becoming dull.

                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                  Yes, and it feels more porous and likely to stain more.

                            2. re: mcf

                              Hi mcf further to your comment, what size chicken do you fit in your 5 qt (26cm round) cocotte ...approx please...and is this whole chicken or cut up?

                              1. re: seuzy58

                                I haven't used this pot, but the bottom area is pretty small on the Staub 5 qt. round. It's wider on top but then tapers to the bottom. A chicken is a better fit in their gorgeous Coq au Vin or the size smaller oval, or in the 6 qt. round.

                                1. re: blondelle

                                  Hi Blondelle, re the Coq au Vin you refer to here (to accommodate a chicken) what size specifically....i've not really looked at anything outside of one of the Cocottes...? And the 6 qt round...that would be the 28cm...??

                                  1. re: seuzy58

                                    The Coq au Vin is the 31cm oval that is 5.4 L, and has a rooster knob on the lid. I bought one of these for my son and daughters a while back, excellent for a chicken or roast.

                                2. re: seuzy58

                                  About 3- 4 lbs, and whole. Cut up probably more, but that depends on how much you want to put in there with it. Blondelle, I've found the pot accomodates a lot more than I thought it would when I first got it.