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Visiting Berlin Oct. 18th-recommendations please?

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This will be my 4th visit to Berlin, will be staying at:

Hotel Berlin Berlin
Lützowplatz 17, 10785 Berlin

I would love some suggestions for some company dinners, cabs are fine within 20-30 minutes from where we stay.

We enjoy:

-German/European cuisine
-Steaks & wine

Also for a lunch or snack, where is the best donar near me, we had some amazing stands for donar as well as some terrible ones? Enjoy the lamb/beef donar kebabs?

Here's my thoughts on past restaurants we've tried, would like new suggestions:

-trattoria paparazzi - nice comfy spot ( first italian restaurant to open in east berlin during the communist era, lots of history)

-Filetstueck -wasn’t impressed at all, terrible steaks & ambiance

-www.sage-restaurant.de (this was a unique spot, something different to try once


-Lutter & Wegner (Very nice, upscale & elegant at the Sony Center in Pottsdam Patz)

-Jolesch & Mitterhofer (I still want to try the pig, wasn't able to visit last year? I hear this is the best for German comfort food and pork?)

-Royal Grill (was terrible & overrated and overpriced)

-Etreconte (great spot, french food & steaks)

Thank you,


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  1. " Linguafood"

    Question for you if your reading this? After reviewing past topics, how are these spots below, are they still open, still quality food?



    Steaks (which do you suggest below?





    http://jolesch.de/ (Is this the spot to get the pork carved from the pig?



    Any new suggestions are always welcome too, a 20-30 minute cab ride from my hotel is no problem

    Hotel Berlin Berlin
    Lützowplatz 17, 10785 Berlin

    Thanks in advance,


    13 Replies
    1. re: Hypnotic23

      Umm, Renger-Patzsch is German food, not Italian. Very good & very moderate prices.

      Oktogon is closed, and never was a steak house (it used to be an Asian fusion place)
      Midtown Grill is expensive, and I'm not sure it's not as bad as Grill Royal. There are a number of new steak places in town, none of which I have tried (I tend to go to The Bird for steaks):

      To Beef or not to Beef
      Ruben Carla

      If you're a pork lover, get yourself to Katz Orange for the 12-hour roasted Duroc pork. It is amazing, plus you get The Best Fries you've had in your life there (goose fat).

      Jolesch & Mitterhofer are both Austrian, and both very good. Mitterhofer is more moderately priced, the Krusenbraten you are referring to were a special of the day, so there's no way of knowing whether they have it when you go, that said, it's my favorite Austrian place in town.

      Noi Quattro offers fab Italian food.

      If you're into sushi (you didn't say), you are very close to Mr. Hai on Olivaer Platz, which has a rocking lunch special for 9.50 €

      Bon appetit!

      1. re: linguafood

        So pleased to hear from you LiguaFood, I will definitely try some of your new spots!

        We will try:

        -To Beef or not to beef (looks to much like a basic hamburger spot)
        -Ruben Carla (this looks nice)
        -Katz Orange (Very excited to try)
        -Mitterhofer (we will try too)

        Thank you again,


        1. re: Hypnotic23

          We were in Berlin in March and we loved Renger-Patzsch. We also thought that Noto was fantastic. The other two places we ate at were also very very good: Hartmans and Remake. But Noto and Renger-Patzsch really stood out for us.


          1. re: Susan56

            What dishes did you enjoy at Renger-Patzsch? Also what is Noto?

            1. re: Hypnotic23

              Noto = North of Torstrasse (one of the new/er eating streets in Mitte.

              I wasn't too impressed, but I didn't go there this summer, so maybe their service issues were solved - the food is good.

              1. re: linguafood

                Since we're also going to Hamburg as well, I will only get 2 dinners in Berlin. If you had to choose the 2 best from the below, which would you go with please?

                -Katz Orange

                Thank you,


                1. re: Hypnotic23

                  It really depends on what you are looking for. Have you checked their websites? Perhaps that might help with your decision. All of them have menus online, and in most cases in English, too.

                  Katz Orange has this fantastic pork dish & awesome fries, RP serves really great southern German-influenced dishes, and with regard to Jolesch & Mitterhofer -- well, they're both Austrian.... in that case, it's a matter of what you are willing to spend. Not that Jolesch is expensive, but Mitterhofer is decidedly cheaper.

                  1. re: linguafood

                    We love all these cuisines, Katz Orange is definitely dinner 1

                    Help me choose the final from below, I'm not worried about the cost, just great meal, good company & drinks:


                    and I'm staying here:

                    Hotel Berlin Berlin
                    Lützowplatz 17, 10785 Berlin

                    Thank you for all your help, your the best!


                    1. re: Hypnotic23

                      I just wouldn't feel comfortable making that decision for you. Why not get a little crazy and choose for yourself '-)

                      1. re: linguafood

                        We just made reservations for Renger-Patzsch & Katz Orange, going to be 2 special evenings.

                        Any input on this restaurant below?


                        1. re: Hypnotic23

                          I've never been, but it's a CH favorite, as far as I know.

                          1. re: linguafood

                            Marjellchen is very high on the trip advisor list. When we were in Berlin for Christmas 2010, I think it was number one. It is a very old fashioned restaurant with very traditional foods. It is a very cosy place and the host is very friendly. The menu tends to be quite heavy and many entrees are comfort foods. They would be like your elderly German grandmother would prepare. We ate there on Christmas Day. It was good and very authentic (from what various posts have said) but I prefer more modern lighter food like Renger-Patzsch. I'm glad we went there but I think I will pass on the restaurant next time I am in Berlin.

      2. re: Hypnotic23

        Midtown Grill is expensive but the food is amazing, world class steaks and a great key lime pie.
        If you can afford it I would definitely recommend it.

        Jolesch is my fave in town and they offer the best lunch deal in the city.
        Anything with game meat in it is a must there and the kaiserschmarrn are a real treat.

      3. Hi!
        I can also recommend Mitterhofer - not fancy, but great food. Renger-Patzsch has a wonderfully priced prix fixe menu, although the food hardly blew me out o the water.

        I do enjoy Noto, although I find it somewhat overpriced compared to other restaurants in the area. I'd go to Lokal (Linienstraße) instead - it's my absolute favorite restaurant in Berlin right now. Small menu, regional dishes, local ingredients, great wines.