86594 Mon Dec 13 15:07:50 -0800 2004 10 3 California 0 478004 I have done a search, but haven't really found the answer to my question. We will be there for on day in Jaunary, probably for a late lunch and would like a place to eat with a view of the ocean. Moderate budget, no more than $20 a person and a place that has good seafood, but other non seafood offerings. (3 in our group of 7 dont like fish, but like crab and shrimp). Mon Dec 13 15:07:50 -0800 2004 0 Kari 1 478010 If it is a nice day, the Terrace at George's at the Cove, would be ideal. George's is an excellent but expensive restaurant. The Terrace has really good food, a beautiful view of La Jolla Cove and the ocean, excellent service and is reasonably priced. Be aware that it is outdoors so will not work if the weather is bad. When my children visit from out of town, this is their first choice. Mon Dec 13 16:30:25 -0800 2004 478004 0 Stan 1 478025 If you don't mind a casual atmosphere (Formica tables, etc.) you couldn't do better than Point Loma Seafood. It's very fresh, excellent, and good value. There are tables outside and inside with a view of some of the sports fishing fleet.) If you go to George's - be sure to go on the top (outside) restaraunt if you want moderate prices. The inside dining room is fabulous but is not in the under $20/person range for many of the entrees. Link: http://www.plsf.com/ Mon Dec 13 21:07:32 -0800 2004 478004 0 ahavajava 1 478027 If you are willing to go up to La Jolla and want a window seat on the beach go to the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. I believe the restaurant is called the Marine Room. I haven't been there in years but the food used to be really good and the ambience unbeatable. Mon Dec 13 22:25:23 -0800 2004 478004 0 Hugh Lipton 2 478029 Yes, Hugh, you're right - the Marine Room is great and a fantastic view. Average meal price is $30. Link: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g60750-d481937-Reviews-Marine_Room-San_Diego_California.html Mon Dec 13 22:43:46 -0800 2004 478027 0 ahavajava 1 478031 The only place to rival the Marine Room's view is Qwigg's, directly across the street and up a flight of stairs from the beach. Totally unobstructed views of the Pacific ocean and OB Pier. Qwigg's (mercifully) closed after a 20+ year run in that location. The restaurant was purchased a few months ago by the folks that own Thee Bungalow and 3rd Corner, 2 of the better dining choices in the beach areas (excluding La Jolla). Word had it the new owners were going to do a fairly quick revamping of the space and then reopen, though I'm not sure if they've reopend yet or not. If it has, it would be worth checking out. On Abbott between Newport and Santa Monica in Ocean Beach. Going the other direction (South), Peohe's in Coronado is right on the bay and for a late lunch it would be less than $20/person. Menu has a wide range of choices including a lot of seafood. You can take a water taxi from the San Diego side directly to Peohe's boat dock. Tue Dec 14 00:03:11 -0800 2004 478004 0 Gayla 1 478032 To go a little north, Pacifica Del Mar might be an option. It's located about a block from the ocean, but is located high enough to offer a nice partial view at least. Link: http://www.pacificadelmar.com/ Tue Dec 14 00:36:41 -0800 2004 478004 0 Scott 1 478050 I'm surprised no one has mentioned The Fish Market. It is right on the harbor and there is usually an aircraft carrier or two docked directly across the bay. I really like the food, and we try to get a table out on the glassed-in patio that overlooks the bay. Don't go upstairs or your wallet will get nosebleed. If they happen to have the princess steamed scallops, you HAVE to try them. YUM! -- Russ Tue Dec 14 15:46:35 -0800 2004 478004 0 Russ Sprouse 2 478066 At the Fishmarket: a dozen Kumomoto oysters raw on the half shell, a bowl of white clam chowder, a loaf of sourdough bread, a salad. One of my favorite meals in San Diego, to be shared with a friend. Do they still have the Kumomotos from time to time? *sigh* Tue Dec 14 21:55:45 -0800 2004 478050 0 Cristina 2 478069 A word of warning on the service at The Fish Market. I went there for lunch a year or so ago and sat for 10+ minutes without any server coming to take my drink or lunch order. It wasn't particularly busy and there were several servers milling about, just none interested in my table. I eventually walked out and complained in person and in writing without a response. I've heard good things about the food, but there are too many good places in San Diego to make it worth dealing with this poor service. I won't be going back. Wed Dec 15 00:42:51 -0800 2004 478050 0 Chuck S 3 478074 Sorry about your experience, Chuck, but you should know that it's not typical. The Fish Market pumps hundreds of people through their establishment every day, and they don't do it by failing to take people's order. But when you're dealing with that kind of volume, things can sometimes go wrong; looks like your number came up on that one. Unless I was on the receiving end of intentional rudeness or something *grossly* unprofessional (like the folks in a recent thread about another restaurant who were asked mid-meal to move their table) I probably wouldn't cross them off my list forever. And not getting waited on promptly at a big place like the Fish Market, strikes me as just a garden-variety SNAFU ("Like, was I supposed to have table 14? Dude! I thought that was Jason's!"). The Fish Market (the high-volume place downstairs) is not a fine dining restaurant, but in my opinion, they're very good at what they do. The seafood is top quality, and the service is tuned to move the maximum number of people through the place that they can. In my experience, they're not so fast as to be obviously trying to turn the tables, but they *are* very, ummm, efficient. When I can afford it, I prefer the Top of the Market (the upstairs room). It's more expensive, but the featured preparations are a bit more thoughtful than the downstairs room, and the view is better. By San Diego standards, it's also more formal (no T-shirts at dinner and you have to wear shoes). . . jim strain in san diego. Wed Dec 15 11:48:58 -0800 2004 478069 0 Jim Strain