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vandan Aug 29, 2012 12:56 AM

And it got me wondering how many micro breweries/brew pubs we have here in BC , anyone have a link of source, i did a quick search to no avail

  1. flowbee Sep 2, 2012 12:10 PM

    Nowai! I just got back from a beer/food tour of Portland, OR too:

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...

    Enjoy!

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      fmed Sep 2, 2012 12:21 PM

      Great pics!

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        grayelf Sep 2, 2012 12:43 PM

        Great pix flowbee and I'm cribbing for our Oct Pdx trip. Would you consider posting a link on the Portland board? I'm sure it would be appreciated!

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          kinnickinnik Sep 2, 2012 04:14 PM

          "Put a Nerd on it"
          Love it! :-)

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            vandan Sep 3, 2012 11:04 AM

            i went to the highly regarded Rogue ( both at PSU and in the Pearl) and i gotta tell ya i wasn't really a fan of their beers, love my IPA's < but found theirs way too bitter on the finish, there was an Irish one of sorts that wasmy favorite but styill didn;t love it, in the IPas overall weren't to my liking, i ended drinking lots of hefs ( can't really go wrong there, unless they are apricot etc...) 2 beers that i really enjoyed were the mass produced( relatively) Deschutes Chainbreaker white IPA and in Seaside i tried ( and loved) Shock top Belgian wit beer , its actually brewed by A-B,

            i did make it out to Pok Pok, got there about 11:20 am on Thurs ( they open at 11:30 got seated right away , had the much acclaimed wings, thought they were good, not fantastic and at $12 for 6 of them a tad expensive, also had the half game hen, tender and tasty, overall it was good but am glad i did not wait as i was nowhere near blown away by it

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            kinnickinnik Aug 31, 2012 03:50 PM

            Northwest Brewing News lists 51 BC Breweries (incl brewpubs) (go to p 23 for the map and list)
            http://nwbnonline.brewingnews.com/pub...

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              fmed Aug 31, 2012 04:37 PM

              That's great - stats confirmed by two sources. The BC craft beer scene is doing very well.

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                kinnickinnik Aug 31, 2012 04:47 PM

                Indeed - and two more on the way per the article on the next page: Wheelhouse in Prince Rupert and Sapperton in New West

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                  anewton Sep 2, 2012 08:02 AM

                  I've been enjoying the Driftwood and Hoyne beers all summer and am happy that BC craft brewing has done so much "catching up" to what is happening south of the border.

                  Still can't say that the best in BC matches my fav Oregon and California beers (absolutely loving the Hopworks Urban Brewery's Rise-Up Red Ale). And my favourite lager, strangely enough, hales from Brooklyn (the fabulous Brooklyn Brewery Lager).

                  But Hoyne makes a great pilsner and a good bock, and Driftwood never disappoints with their Farmhand Ale and Driftwood Ale. What I find is not yet up to snuff in BC is the IPA scene. Our IPAs typically lack the vibrant citrus, pine, and eucalyptus notes that elevate the best IPAs from Oregon and California and help to balance out the dominant bitter taste of the hops. Driftwood, Hoyne and Central City all make decent IPAs but nothing to match the fruity Sierra Nevada Torpedo, the irreproachable HUB IPA, or Anderson Valley's IPA, IMO.

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                    flowbee Sep 2, 2012 12:17 PM

                    We don't make good IPAs? Dems fightin' words!!! :)

                    imho we make some world-class PNW-style IPAs: Lighthouse Switchback IPA, Driftwood Fat Tug and Sartori Harvest, Central City Red Racer IPA (although I think it used to be much more aromatic than in the past year or so), etc. That said, SN Torpedo is a personal fave of mine too. And I love most everything that Lagunitas does.

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                      fmed Sep 2, 2012 12:41 PM

                      Our top IPAs are not as good as the top ones in the US PNW, but I think they are on the same playing field.

                      I think the BC breweries need to work on the other styles - Belgian-style sours, darks, etc. I would love a good BC sour beer. I was not able to try Storm's Blackcurrant Lambic which was supposed to have been very good. I did try their famously sour 12 yr old Lambic - but hooooboy it was intensely sour. Too acetic for my tastes.

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                vandan Aug 30, 2012 04:13 AM

                Yup close fo 150 tbese days, i was just trying to figure out just how far behind we are

                1. peter.v Aug 29, 2012 03:26 AM

                  Let's see what I can do off the top of my head:

                  Driftwood
                  Hoyne
                  Phillips
                  Vancouver Island
                  Lighthouse
                  Moon Under Water
                  Canoe
                  Swans
                  Tofino
                  Longwood
                  Central City
                  Big Ridge
                  Red Truck
                  Yaletown Brewing
                  Coal Harbour
                  Parallel 49
                  R&B Brewing
                  Storm
                  Brassneck (forthcoming)
                  Cascade Group (forthcoming)
                  Mission Springs
                  Old Yale
                  Tree
                  Granville Island
                  Townsite
                  Plan B
                  Mount Begbie
                  Fernie

                  I've definitely forgotten some, but this is pretty close to the list I think.

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                    fmed Aug 29, 2012 07:39 AM

                    According to Joe Weibe (who writes about beer) there are over 50 craft breweries now in BC http://urbandiner.ca/2012/07/25/thirs...

                    I think Oregon has over 120? About half that number (60) within Portland city limits. They had a head start of course. I remember way back in the late 80's when it was already the capital of craft beer in the US. They now rank 3rd in the US.

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                      vandan Aug 31, 2012 07:29 AM

                      Hey Fmed what places are 1 and 2 ? figure Denver/Colorado must be one of them

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                        fmed Aug 31, 2012 07:44 AM

                        As of Aug 2011 - California , Washington then Oregon. http://www.nuwireinvestor.com/article... (this article lists the states per capita so you'll have to pull out the actual numbers of breweries per state for comparison ). It could be different now.

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                          fmed Aug 31, 2012 08:07 AM

                          If BC stats were included and the "over 50" number stated by Joe Weibe is correct, then this province would be respectable 7th in that list. Not bad at all.

                          And while we are on stats...Ontario has 47 as of this article http://www.ourwindsor.ca/2012/07/craf...

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                            vandan Aug 31, 2012 11:06 AM

                            cool, hey i couldn't seem to find the BC stats Fmed

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                              fmed Aug 31, 2012 11:31 AM

                              I couldn't find any definitive stats. Maybe CAMRA BC has it? I would be nice to have a craft beer directory. Found this list that I think is inaccurate. (Probably lists only members of the Association). http://bccraftbeer.com/bc_breweries.php

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                                vandan Aug 31, 2012 11:41 AM

                                Ontario 47th eh, wow didn't think we were so high on the list and that they were so aheadof them in that respect, i knew i left there for a reason :)

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                                  fmed Aug 31, 2012 11:54 AM

                                  Not "47th". They have 47 craft breweries. Now I am doubting the "over 50" number provided up thread. I'm thinking closer to half that here?

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                                    vandan Aug 31, 2012 12:13 PM

                                    oh well, cool i am going home next month for a visit and will surely indulge :)

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                                    peter.v Aug 31, 2012 12:34 PM

                                    BC is doing quite well for breweries I would think. Especially when you consider that it is virtually impossible to open a brewpub in Vancouver. If it were easier to brew your own beer for a brewpub here it would be a much more vibrant scene.

                                    Adding to my list:
                                    Spinnaker's
                                    Dockside
                                    Steamworks
                                    Cannery

                                    EDIT: Here's a list at http://www.bcbeer.ca/brewery.aspx - It's over 50, though some of the breweries listed are closed.

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                                      fmed Aug 31, 2012 12:41 PM

                                      Awesome. Thanks Peter. I knew you would know where we can the info.

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                                        vandan Aug 31, 2012 01:06 PM

                                        yup i can totally understand why so many people wouldn't want to jump through the ridiculous hopps that our government makes them jump through do undetake such an endeavour

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                                          vandan Aug 31, 2012 02:01 PM

                                          thanks for the link , infortunately its not quite updated, as Horseshoe bay and Dix ( and maybe others as well) are both now gone

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                                            peter.v Aug 31, 2012 02:15 PM

                                            Ugh, yeah, there are a bunch of shuttered breweries on that list. Better to go to the beerfly section on BeerAdvocate and search for BC breweries. Including some pretty small operations, there are still over 50. Probably about 56ish.

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