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vulber Aug 23, 2012 12:49 PM

I feel like this must have been posted here at some point, but can't find it.

Going to be down for the weekend soon, and in particularly looking for obscure ethnic food not available in the Bay Area

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    Dirtywextraolives Sep 5, 2012 07:49 PM

    Thought of another one: do you have anything like Fukuburger up there?

    http://www.fukuburger.com/menu/

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      ipsedixit Sep 5, 2012 08:14 PM

      903.

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        ipsedixit Sep 5, 2012 08:47 PM

        903 is the name of a sandwich-burger joint in Bernal Heights.

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          Servorg Sep 6, 2012 06:31 AM

          Or http://www.blackwoodsf.com/Blackwood/...

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        vulber Sep 4, 2012 12:03 AM

        thanks, everybody for the suggestions.

        we did:

        -spice table. delicious, unique, affordably priced, refreshing for sure.
        -daikokuya. amazing broth, but weak toppings. assuming the santouka in LA is as good as the one in san jose, i'd probably usually go there.
        -jitlada - a bit inconsistent, but some very good items. hard for me to compare since i don't really have much experience with southern thai, but lotus of siam still blows it out of the water.
        -soowon galbi - really really good - better than anything i've had in SF.
        -animal - probably my favorite of the whole trip - incredibly innovative/delicious.
        -feng mao. delicious, and definitely unique (although the more traditional skewers were the best).
        -phong dinh - a bit inconsistent, but some very delicious meats for sure.
        -dintaifung - excellent soup dumplings, but was really hoping they would blow me out of the water, and they didn't.

        also went to the thai bakery - excellent call.

        had cocktails at varnish and the edison - some very good ones, some not as much.

        great coffee at the fix and demitasse.

        but yes, all in all, a delicious weekend.

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          Servorg Sep 4, 2012 05:18 AM

          Thanks for reporting back and for starting what turned out to be a great, informative and spirited thread that everyone can benefit from. We love Animal...so much creative energy along with the excellent taste of the food (which can get lost at times when places get creative but lose their way with the taste sacrificed for the creationism).

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          odub Sep 3, 2012 10:48 PM

          Vulber: love this thread as someone who lived in the Bay from 90-06 and has been in LA since then.

          KOREAN. Above all else, the quality and variety of Korean food in LA has no remote peer in the Bay. Don't do BBQ here; it is better than what you can get in SF but it's not *uniquely* better. Do, say, Ondal 2. Or Laon. Or even Olympic Noodle. I could go on for days but trust me: Korean.

          Not to contradict what i just said about Korean BBQ, I would second the Langers recommendation because it is so much better than any equivalent sandwich in the Bay. Quintessentially L.A.

          Whoever said ice cream is better in the Bay is completely correct. I think LA has great ice cream but nothing you can't get in SF or Berkeley.

          Regional Chinese is a good call. Shanghainese food is considerably better as is most Northern and Western styles but it depends on how much you love Chinese food.

          Isaan Thai is something that I don't recall being strong in the Bay. Renu Nakorn or Spicy BBQ maybe?

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            Dirtywextraolives Sep 3, 2012 03:17 PM

            How about a place like The Gorbals? Scottish, Jewish, Spanish, American. Very unique.

            http://www.dynamic-ink.com/thegorbals...

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              odub Sep 3, 2012 11:08 PM

              Except that it's not that great of a meal. Just my .02 but nothing special/memorable IMO.

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                Dirtywextraolives Sep 5, 2012 07:51 PM

                Ok, but do you have anything similar??

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                  ipsedixit Sep 5, 2012 08:13 PM

                  Plenty up north.

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                    Dirtywextraolives Sep 5, 2012 08:34 PM

                    There are plenty of Scottish-Jewish-Spanish-Ameircan places up north?? Please elaborate so I can find them wheni go to visit my inlaws there, I'd appreciate it.

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                      ipsedixit Sep 5, 2012 08:47 PM

                      Canteen, Sons and Daughters, Marlowe, Street, etc.

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                        Dirtywextraolives Sep 5, 2012 08:58 PM

                        Um, I've checked out all of the menus from the four restaurants you listed and I don't see any item even coming close to what The Gorbals offers. Just because they garnish a dish with sherry vinegar or Marcona almonds does not make it a Spanish-Jewish-Scottish influenced place? Just sayin.

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              MrBoombastic Aug 28, 2012 11:19 AM

              A suntan. LOL! Forgive me please, now I give a serious answer. Foodwise I do believe San Francisco is superior but every city has a gem. In LA I do recommend to try the sushi at Urasawa. It is special for sure and better than San Francisco!

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                MrBoombastic Aug 28, 2012 11:17 AM

                Oops! I did not mean to post two threads I am sorry.

                1. groover808 Aug 28, 2012 07:23 AM

                  Great thread! Maybe you guys can chime in on my current thread on the SF board?

                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/863548

                  1. Mr. Roboto Aug 27, 2012 11:05 PM

                    OK, I've read the responses here and while everyone mentions their favorite restaurants and dishes, I don't see anything really answering the OP's request of: "...OBSCURE ethnic food not available in the Bay area." A lot of the suggestions here seems like they might be available somewhere in the Bay Area.

                    Sushi? XLB? Ramen? Pastrami? French Dip? Ice Cream? ¿Tamales? These are obscure ethnic foods?

                    I'm thinking of Phong Dinh Restaurant in Rosemead for the ostrich, rabbit, venison, kangaroo, goat, boar, alligator, & snake prepared Vietnamese style. Or maybe the bull penis at Feng Mao in Koreatown.

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                      JThur01 Aug 27, 2012 11:51 PM

                      Some regional Chinese is pretty obscure outside of China and the SGV.

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                        aching Aug 28, 2012 09:35 AM

                        The OP said "particularly", not 'only".

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                        pickypicky Aug 27, 2012 07:14 AM

                        Great query. An all-time great CH post, in my opinion. I'm in San Diego and trust me-- whatever we got, somebody's got it better. This post alone proves the culinary strengths of SF and LA, and just reading it makes me homesick for somebody else's home. Let me venture to say, though, surely LA has SF beat at al fresco dining. That aint food, but it's something.

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                          Tripeler Aug 27, 2012 07:34 AM

                          Pickypicky,
                          San Diego will seem a whole lot better to you if you consider California's other city, Sacramento. I am sure that whatever they have, SD does it better.

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                            pickypicky Aug 27, 2012 10:36 AM

                            I've heard Sacramento's produce is the state's best.

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                              westsidegal Aug 27, 2012 04:17 PM

                              the produce in sacramento was wonderful when i was in school there many years ago. when i've gone back subsequently on business trips, the APPEARANCE of the produce is superior, but the TASTE, imho, is not as good as it was in the old days nor is the aroma/smell of today's sacramento produce.
                              this was especially true for the tomatoes.

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                                carter Aug 27, 2012 08:16 PM

                                Don't listen - taste!
                                With Farmer's Markets throughout the state, with all varieties of produce being delivered over night throughout the state, nothing is less than totally fresh.
                                Then it becomes a matter of terroir, the grower, the particular breed of the fruit/veggie in discussion, etc.
                                Cannot imagine Sackatomatoes would still hold that title, as there is more money for quality produce elsewhere in the state - think LA & SF.

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                              bulavinaka Aug 27, 2012 10:43 AM

                              "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."

                              On the other hand, summer in San Diego... My first memory of al fresco dining was as an eight year-old having lunch on a family friend's rooftop deck overlooking San Diego's Mission Bay - "priceless."

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                                JThur01 Aug 27, 2012 11:51 PM

                                Summer in San Diego? As long as it's not the June part.

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                                  ipsedixit Aug 28, 2012 07:48 AM

                                  I love June Gloom.

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                              Ernie Aug 24, 2012 03:38 PM

                              Good tortillerias and tamale shops. I can't think of any places in SF that do those well. La Azteca in ELA is a family favorite

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                                vulber Aug 26, 2012 07:40 PM

                                you must not have been to la palma

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                                  Ernie Aug 27, 2012 02:34 PM

                                  No, I have not been to La Palma. Is that the only tortilleria in SF city limits?

                                  In Los Angeles we have La Azteca, La Imperial, La Princesa, Lolita's, La Barca, etc. to name a few

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                                    vulber Aug 27, 2012 03:50 PM

                                    it's the only major one that comes to mind; while LA may have more variety, i'd be surprised if any of them surpass la palma in quality (although i'm sure many are equal)

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                                      Ernie Aug 27, 2012 04:06 PM

                                      Try La Azteca in ELA before you make assumptions about the quality in Los Angeles

                              2. emglow101 Aug 24, 2012 01:05 PM

                                The snook,pescado zarandeado that Sergio makes at Coni Seafood in Inglewood.

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                                  epop Aug 27, 2012 07:08 AM

                                  how has that snook been lately? Once it was fantastic.

                                  I had it as a repeat two years ago at Mar Vista
                                  and it had become disgusting, during their transitional phase.

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                                    westsidegal Aug 27, 2012 04:03 PM

                                    who cooked your snook at mar vista two years ago?
                                    imho the food at mar vista changed abruptly for the worse when the kitchen staff changed; that's what caused me to leave them.

                                    the snook in INGLEWOOD was wonderful when i was there last: two weeks ago.

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                                      epop Aug 28, 2012 09:26 AM

                                      one of the heavier set men, but I don't think it was the owner. A brother?
                                      The shrimp were also nothing special, and I was left saddened, as
                                      it really was a gem once.
                                      Will go to Inglewood and check what's happening. I'm so tired of the
                                      quality, especially of seafood, plummeting everywhere.

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                                        westsidegal Sep 3, 2012 11:51 PM

                                        i suspect that the man who prepared/ruined your food was either the owner's husband or one of his cronies.

                                        there ought to be a law preventing any of them from going within 300 feet of any kind of kiitchen.

                                        before starting your car to head toward inglewood, i'd call first to make sure that sergio will be cooking that night.
                                        310-672-2339

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                                          epop Sep 4, 2012 10:16 AM

                                          good idea, and thank you, WSGal.

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                                        lapizzamaven Aug 28, 2012 02:51 PM

                                        @WSG..."who cooked your snook?" love it!

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                                          Servorg Aug 28, 2012 03:16 PM

                                          If it turns out not to have been a snook were you "snookered" then? ;-D>

                                  2. aching Aug 24, 2012 08:06 AM

                                    Does SF have great artisanal ice cream/gelato like we have down here? Like Scoops, Bulgarini, Sweet Rose, Milk, Carmela, etc.?

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                                      vulber Aug 24, 2012 10:16 AM

                                      oh, does it ever :)

                                      well, at least with ice cream. not too much artisanal gelato. then again, i love amazing ice cream anywhere, so i'm still find with that, unless there's a more unique dessert option in LA

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                                        Servorg Aug 24, 2012 10:19 AM

                                        We have a really excellent Thai bakery for sweets in Thai town/Hollywood: http://www.bhankanomthai.com/ which might interest you depending on what SF has in that particular category?

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                                          vulber Aug 24, 2012 11:45 AM

                                          perfect

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                                          Dirtywextraolives Aug 26, 2012 10:52 PM

                                          What about a Portuguese bakery a la Portos! And Croatian, like Pavich's Brick Oven Pizzeria?

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                                            bulavinaka Aug 27, 2012 06:54 AM

                                            Are you referring to Porto's in Glendale, Burbank and Downey? If so, their roots are Cuban. Good bang for your buck there, but stick with the Cuban specialties.

                                            http://portosbakery.com/content/porto...

                                            A very good Portuguese bakery rec might be Natas Pastries in Sherman Oaks.

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                                              Das Ubergeek Sep 5, 2012 07:44 AM

                                              I went to Nata's. I was hoping it would blow me away—I was raised by a dad who took me twice a month to the bakeries in the Ironbound—and it didn't. It's not bad, and it scratches the itch, but it's not Newark or Framingham.

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                                                bulavinaka Sep 5, 2012 05:15 PM

                                                Portuguese is pretty thick back east - just the opposite out here. If you've got memories of places that pummel Natas, I can't help you there, but I sure enjoy it.

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                                                  Dirtywextraolives Sep 5, 2012 06:49 PM

                                                  Yea, they rule in East Providence, RI & New Bedford & surrounding in MA. I'm just thrilled I can find linguica in this part of the country.

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                                                  westsidegal Sep 5, 2012 08:16 PM

                                                  that's how i felt about Portos.
                                                  wanted so much to be blown away.
                                                  didn't get anywhere near blown away.

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                                            ipsedixit Aug 24, 2012 12:37 PM

                                            SF ice cream kicks our ass.

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                                              aching Aug 24, 2012 03:07 PM

                                              Well, for the sake of MY ass, it's good that I don't live there then! =)

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                                            Bradbury Aug 23, 2012 06:46 PM

                                            Having spent a fair amount of time living in both metro areas, here's my brief take on who leads in what:

                                            BAY AREA: French, Italian (including pizza), Spanish (notice a trend here? anything European), coffee, bakeries, "nuevo" Mexican, Indian, Cantonese, Sichuan, "other" SE Asian (Malaysian, Burmese, Laotian, etc.), classic California cuisine (e.g. Chez Panisse and its descendants)

                                            LA/OC: Korean, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, Shanghainese, southern Mexican and Central American, Ethiopian, Peruvian, Armenian

                                            PRETTY MUCH TIED: Japanese, Thai, South American (except Peruvian), deli

                                            BOTH LAGGING SAN DIEGO: Farm-to-table gastropubs with superior beer selection

                                            Flame away! ;-)

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                                              Porthos Aug 23, 2012 07:54 PM

                                              Have also lived and eaten extensively and recently in both cities. French in both cities is probably equally weak compared to NYC.

                                              I agree with you regarding Italian especially Neapolitan style pizza. However, Mozza's unique style gives us something SF doesn't have.

                                              "Japanese" is too broad. Everyone knows SF sushi is surprisingly weak. LA wins handily with Mori, Shunji, Sushi Zo, and Urasawa. Ramen is about equal as far as I know. Izakaya/yakitori I may give to LA but I haven't had much izakaya/yakitori in SF. Tempura and soba I may also give to LA except I don't have much experience with dedicated tempura and soba restaurants in SF. Have you?

                                              Regarding deli, I like Katz's better than Langer's. But I'm not aware of any place in SF that does pastrami as well as Langer's.

                                              SF was first with farm to table by at least 5-10 years so I'm just going to call BS on the SD comment. :)

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                                                Bradbury Aug 23, 2012 10:50 PM

                                                You're probably right about Japanese. It's true that SF doesn't have anything to match, say, Urasawa, but then I was trying to compare overall experiences for your average (yet avid) diner, for whom Urasawa is usually out beyond the end of the bell curve anyway. I've had good izakaya in SF, but there's perhaps a better range of opportunities in Torrance/Gardena alone.

                                                As for farm-to-table, SF is the leader and still champion on the high end, but I'd say SD is doing it better these days on the low end (i.e. actual pubs, not restaurants with a beer list)

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                                                  CarrieWas218 Aug 26, 2012 11:01 PM

                                                  I have also lived in both areas (Northridge, San Pedro, Redondo combined for 12+ years - San Francisco and Napa for 10 years).

                                                  When I go back to Los Angeles to visit, the eateries that are always on my list include Shin Sen Gumi in Gardena - the yakitori branch of the "chain." It is also worth going during a Sumo basho as that is when they serve chankonabe, but I'm even happy for getting there for lunch. Urasawa is special occasion for me, but incomparable.

                                                  Randy's Doughnuts by the airport is also a must-visit - their apple fritter is my benchmark and at .85 cents, a screaming deal.

                                                  As cheeky as it sounds, I crave the roast pork with black beans and rice and fried plantains at Versailles. San Francisco has NO good Cuban food whatsoever.

                                                  Philip's French Dip lamb with blue cheese. And Langer's, like others have said. San Francisco doesn't have a decent Jewish deli. I'll even take Canter's if I'm up late.

                                                  Lastly, Islamic Chinese food in Monterey Park - Tung Lai Shun (although this was almost a decade ago - there may be better). I still taste the duck tongues and various soups...

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                                                    vulber Aug 27, 2012 10:18 AM

                                                    carrie, good to see you on this board too :)

                                                    how does shin sen gumi compare to ippudo in berkeley?

                                                    also, is the versailles in LA related to the one in miami ()which i've been to)

                                                    and how does tung lai shun compare to old mandarin?

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                                                      CarrieWas218 Aug 27, 2012 11:03 AM

                                                      Vulber!

                                                      For me, Ippudo is only more interesting than Shin Sen Gumi in that they have the raw chicken but after that, Shin Sen Gumi blows everyone else out of the water for price, quality, and just general convivial atmosphere.

                                                      I don't think the Versailles in L.A. is the same as Miami - different logos and website designs would dictate...

                                                      Old Mandarin pales in comparison to Tung Lai Shun, I think. I only went to Old Mandarin once and was not that impressed. It was though they were trying to hard with other cross-over dishes (sesame chicken and dim sum) without offering the "interesting" dishes that drew me to Tung Lai Shun like the dunk tongues and goose entrails... Old Mandarin did a few things okay, but didn't have as an authentic feel to it as Tung Lai Shun does.

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                                                        Porthos Aug 27, 2012 11:39 AM

                                                        Next time you're in town give Torihei a try. It may lack in convivial atmosphere, but it more than makes up in the level and quality of food.

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                                                        Ciao Bob Aug 27, 2012 08:05 PM

                                                        No (nor to the one in France).

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                                                          odub Sep 3, 2012 11:03 PM

                                                          I think you mean Ippuku? Ippudo is ramen and there's no outlet in the Bay that I know of (let alone Berkeley).

                                                          I haven't been to Ippuku in a minute so I can't compare the two but while I think SSG yakitori is great, I've never been blown away by it. Then again, I don't drink and I feel like the experience there is elevated when there's beer involved ;)

                                                          Versailles in LA is fine but it's pretty run-of-the-mill greasy Cuban. Good but...

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                                                            CarrieWas218 Sep 4, 2012 10:28 AM

                                                            Versailles might be run-of-the-mill, greasy Cuban, but considering the alternatives in San Francisco (or lack thereof), I'll take it!

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                                                          lapizzamaven Aug 28, 2012 02:50 PM

                                                          Ate in a Chinese Islamic rest in the Sunset(nr 30st?) that had been talked up a bit in the SF CH...not bad...the pancake a bit greasy....think we do better down here.

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                                                            CarrieWas218 Aug 28, 2012 03:23 PM

                                                            Lapizzamaven - that is Old Mandarin, essentially San Francisco's only Islamic Chinese and, yes, it is much better in Los Angeles.

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                                                              odub Sep 3, 2012 11:00 PM

                                                              If we're talking Islamic Chinese, then Omar's Xiangjiang Halal would be the choice in L.A. you're really NOT going to find in the Bay.

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                                                      JudiAU Aug 24, 2012 10:57 AM

                                                      Yes, I think that is pretty list. Anything European and many more good bakeries in SF. The butchers have improved a lot in Los Angeles.

                                                      You might enjoy a visit to the Wednesday Santa Monica or Sunday Hollywood to see the difference in the seasonal markets.

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                                                        vulber Aug 24, 2012 11:15 AM

                                                        where's good for armenian? and while SF itself doesn't have great ethiopian, is the ethiopian in LA significantly better than oakland/san jose?

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                                                          bulavinaka Aug 24, 2012 03:28 PM

                                                          Mantee on Ventura Blvd in Studio City for excellent Armenian. For lamajeun, Partamian's on W. Adams in Midtown.

                                                          If Yucatecan is absent in S.F., La Flor de Yucatan on Hoover will be a true lesson in this cuisine.

                                                          Peruvian would be Kotosh, El Rocoto, Puro Sabor in Van Nuys and Pollo a la Brasa on Western.

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                                                            WildSwede Aug 28, 2012 01:37 PM

                                                            Another great place for Yucatecan food is Chichen Itza in Mercado La Paloma just north of Downtown.

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                                                              vulber Aug 28, 2012 03:43 PM

                                                              SF has plenty of good yucatecan :)

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                                                                Dirtywextraolives Aug 28, 2012 05:21 PM

                                                                How about Oaxacan?

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                                                                  odub Sep 3, 2012 11:07 PM

                                                                  I'd second this. Yucatan you can get in the Bay but I don't remember there ever being a super-legit Oaxacan spot up there.

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                                                            odub Sep 3, 2012 11:04 PM

                                                            I think the quality of Ethiopian is better here but I don't think it's on some level better or different than the Bay.

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                                                          BSW6490 Aug 23, 2012 03:23 PM

                                                          Night & Market for authentic Thai street food with a fun vibe.

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                                                            djquinnc Aug 23, 2012 02:52 PM

                                                            Is there good Oaxacan food in SF like we have at Guelaguetza?

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                                                              maudies5 Aug 23, 2012 02:45 PM

                                                              Good deli. Langers for pastrami.

                                                              1. Porthos Aug 23, 2012 01:19 PM

                                                                Agree with Shanghainese food. Go to Shanghai No. 1 Seafood Village

                                                                Agree with Langer's and Park's BBQ

                                                                I'll add:

                                                                -High end sushi. Go to Mori or Shunji.

                                                                -Persian food. Go to Shamshiri grill

                                                                -Updated Singaporean food. Go to Spice Table. Get the fried cauliflower, lamb belly satay, beef rendang, kon loh mee

                                                                -Red Medicine. Like a cross between Commonwealth, Atelier Crenn, and Slanted Door...but better.

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                                                                  baloney Aug 23, 2012 01:40 PM

                                                                  Gasp, Porthos, not better than Atelier Crenn! I love RM and agree it is sort of like Commonwealth, but have to disagree that it's better than AC. Actually I think they're a little too different to compare side by side.

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                                                                    Porthos Aug 23, 2012 01:50 PM

                                                                    I meant Red Medicine would be like a cross between all 3 but better than said hyopthetical hybrid :)

                                                                    I loved Atelier Crenn. But I would have to say it is a bit too "molecular" for me. I prefer more "real" cooking. I think RM has that balance.

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                                                                      baloney Aug 23, 2012 05:41 PM

                                                                      You know, after I posted, I thought about what you wrote and thought that's what you had meant. So my first post...moot!

                                                                      I normally have a severe dislike of molecular cuisine but found AC to be such a thoughtful meal that I almost didn't even notice it.

                                                                2. wienermobile Aug 23, 2012 01:07 PM

                                                                  The wonderful Park's BBQ in Koreatown. Some of the best cut of beef in the city.
                                                                  http://www.parksbbq.com

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                                                                    calumin Aug 23, 2012 01:53 PM

                                                                    Korean BBQ exists in SF - LA may be better overall but there are a couple good places in SF.

                                                                    There is no equivalent to YongSuSan in SF. I would go there instead for Kaesong cuisine.

                                                                    http://www.yongsusan.co.kr/en/sub1/su...

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                                                                      ipsedixit Aug 23, 2012 02:05 PM

                                                                      There is no equivalent to YongSuSan in SF. I would go there instead for Kaesong cuisine.
                                                                      ____________________________________

                                                                      How about the YongSuSan in LA?

                                                                      http://www.yongsusan.co.kr/en/sub3/bo...

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                                                                        Servorg Aug 23, 2012 02:13 PM

                                                                        I believe you've misinterpreted what calumin meant (that is to say; "SF has nothing to equal the food found at YongSuSan here in LA").

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                                                                          calumin Aug 24, 2012 09:44 PM

                                                                          Servorg -- right, that's what I meant to say. I wish they opened one up in SF!

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                                                                      baloney Aug 23, 2012 05:47 PM

                                                                      How about non-BBQ Korean food? Mapo kkak doo gee, Ma Dang gooksoo, Yu Chun, Soban, etc. People like Seongbukdong, I don't but it might float your boat. Heck, I'd even try the Kogi truck if you happen to be around it, it's much better than the "real" Korean tacos from the Namu people(assault on my taste buds, blegh).

                                                                    3. wienermobile Aug 23, 2012 12:57 PM

                                                                      Langer's Deli heavenly pastrami on rye.
                                                                      http://www.langersdeli.com

                                                                      1. ipsedixit Aug 23, 2012 12:54 PM

                                                                        Good Chinese food.

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                                                                        1. re: ipsedixit
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                                                                          vulber Aug 23, 2012 12:56 PM

                                                                          can you be specific? there's a glut of good cantonese food in the bay area, as well as some very good sichuan places

                                                                          1. re: vulber
                                                                            ipsedixit Aug 23, 2012 01:02 PM

                                                                            Northern Beijing foods (dumplings, meat pies, etc.)

                                                                            Shanghai food (XLB, water boiled fish)

                                                                            Taiwanese (stinky tofu, pork chop rice)

                                                                            In other words, both the quality and variety are better down here than up there. The only restaurant up north that consistently is better than anything in LA would be Koi Palace (original location).

                                                                            1. re: ipsedixit
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                                                                              odub Sep 3, 2012 10:57 PM

                                                                              I'd also say that Jai Yun was the site of one of my favorite Chinese meals anywhere in the world. I don't know if there's anything in L.A. that's equivalent to it but then again, my L.A. Chinese meals is very cheap-eats oriented and I don't believe I've ever had an equivalent prix fixe-style Chinese meal here as what Jai Yun does.

                                                                              1. re: odub
                                                                                ipsedixit Sep 4, 2012 07:30 AM

                                                                                I think you are right there is no Jai Yun equivalent in LA, but if you combined Joss with Mission 261 you might come very close.

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