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Querencia Aug 12, 2012 12:08 PM

I just spent a few days in St Louis, staying in the Central West End. It was HOT and I was looking for a cold refreshing light meal. I would have killed for a bowl of iced gazpacho, would have been happy with a fruit salad, and would have settled for a dish of ice cream. I prowled around from Maryland Plaza to Forest Park Avenue and found nothing but, like, fried chicken wings with hot sauce and a side of mostaccioli. Finally gave up, went back to hotel, and drank ice water. Is no cold food a St Louis thing? Just wondering.

  1. hill food Aug 19, 2012 02:41 AM

    Q - this was not the level of hospitality we like to offer. if there is a future visit I am quite sure we'd jump to make recommendations in that area.

    1. nsxtasy Aug 18, 2012 09:20 PM

      I loved the food I had in St. Louis, despite the brutally hot weather, as I reported at www.chow.com/topics/860779 Bogart's was full by 11:15 on a day it hit 107 degrees, and their barbecue was superb. I had a terrific milk shake at Bailey's Range downtown. At Niche, the hot corn soup had a scoop of creme fraiche ice cream in it. I didn't get to Ted Drewes, the local frozen custard specialists, but I hear their frozen custard is cold too. :)

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        lemons Aug 13, 2012 07:52 AM

        Gosh, there's a restaurant on Euclid called the Green Bean, I believe, that offers mainly salads. (Other CHers, please edit if needed.) And Herbie's serves a great chilled cucumber soup that's been a tradition in town. And where on earth did you find somewhere with mostaccioli there? Plus the Coffee Cartel @ Maryland/Euclid, cattycornered from chicken wing central, has lots of ice cream. Heat may have made you light headed, perhaps.

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          tonifi Aug 14, 2012 10:59 AM

          Ha! I read the original post, too, and thought, "Where the heck did they find mostaccioli in the Central West End?" I'll bet that since, oh, 1978, you can only find it on The Hill or in other red-gravy places... OR at weddings, of course, though some (damn fools) try to substitute pasta con broccoli. Querencia, honey, I assume your brains were too baked to investigate good choices, and in that, I sympathize. Baked Brains, the Summer of 2012 St. Louis speciality. With a sauce of melting blacktop.

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            wekick Aug 14, 2012 12:26 PM

            We stopped in to our local place and brought an order for the bride and groom when our kids got married. You are not married until you have the mostaccioli and it was not a choice with the caterers.

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              kroppinkris Aug 14, 2012 05:36 PM

              We did not serve it at our wedding. I've always figured that gave me built in grounds for an annulment if needed :)

              But back to the thread topic - I don't know that I've ever really seen it on a menu. Reminds me of pork steaks. Everyone makes those themselves and you wouldn't order it out.

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          STLLifer Aug 12, 2012 05:25 PM

          Well lets see, you could have gotten a variety of salads at most of the restaurants in that neighborhood or you could have gone to Scape for the gazpacho or you could have gone to a number of places for cold/raw seafood or you could have gone to a number of places for a fruit and cheese plate and there are a number of places for ice cream ranging from italian gelato to a Froyo right there on Maryland. Or you could just sit in your hotel room drinking ice water and feeling smug in your knowledge that St Louis is just bar food and mostaccioli.
          But hey, I know how you feel. When I go to Chicago I look around and wonder how a city can just eat hotdogs and deep dish pizza. I usually end up back in the hotel drinking a cold Bud. Ok, in reality I use Chowhound and Yelp and usually find something interesting once I've had my fill of hotdogs and pizza. Try it, it beats the hell out of ice water and hotel TV.

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            Querencia Aug 13, 2012 08:23 AM

            Would have welcomed the gelato. Missed it as well as Froyo, which I am guessing means frozen yogurt? Stopped in Straub's that had containers of Ted Drewes but only in the quart size. Walking Euclid from Forest Park to around the other side of the Park Plaza then down Maryland Plaza on the way back I did not see announcement or advertising of anything but what was hot and salty. The neighborhood seems to cater to young BJ students, which makes sense since they constitute the steady trade. But, STLLifer, when you come to Chicago, don't ignore local delicacies. Check out our Mexican street food at the Sunday morning Maxwell Street market: they sell some great tacos with animal eyeballs in them.

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              STLLifer Aug 13, 2012 05:28 PM

              Q, you seem like a nice person judging from all of the helpful posts on Chowhound where you go out of your way guiding people around your fair city. And I love your city. I get up there once or twice a year and as stated earlier I search out everything from street food to Moto(it was an experience but not one I would pay for twice). Actually I envy you for being in a town with so many ethnic street festivals and food stands and wish we had a population here that could support that type of thing.
              The sad thing is that your original post was just a snide attempt to belittle our city with ill informed biases. I know this because I will bet there is no restaurant in town that sells chicken wings with a side of mostaccioli. BTW the joke in this city is that you have to have mostaccioli at your wedding reception, not that it is found in every restaurant. Next time try using the many online resources that are available and you might be pleasantly surprised at what we have to offer. BTW according to some of the food and travel channels we are known for our snoots. I’ve never had a snoot, known anyone who has had one or where to get them but next time you are in town we can meet up and have snoots together.

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                hill food Aug 13, 2012 09:08 PM

                "mostaccioli at your wedding reception" it's not a joke. it's the law.

                snoots - I hear Smoki-O's on North Broadway is the source.

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                  hill food Dec 31, 2012 08:47 PM

                  snoots - hunted it down, yet to try it (hey it's NYE weekend and I had stuff to do) 1545 North Broadway West side of the street, not much around there that's non-industrial. just a tiny hole-in-the-wall with maybe 4 stools. snoots are usually compared to Chicharrón. the BBQ gets mixed reviews, (but I suspect the nay-sayers are more KC or TX style oriented - most of the gripes were that it was a bit sweet and served 'wet').

          2. wekick Aug 12, 2012 01:26 PM

            Where you on Euclid, because there are a ton of great restaurants in that area that would have something cold? The Brasserie by Niche is one of my favorites and they might have a cold soup and they have some great salads. We had a dessert the other day with house made ice cream.

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