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Aug 8, 2012 11:27 AM

Red Fish?

Has anyone tired this restaurant on College?

I can't find a website on it yet, but its on Opentable as being new and has a Facebook Page.

If anyone has tried it, would love to hear comments :)

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  1. I just found this:

    But still very little about the place as of yet.. but I'm intrigued as I love seafood!

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    1. re: Kassi22

      I went to Redfish Saturday evening and just wanted to let everyone know that I thoroughly enjoyed everything about the place. The service was excellent, they had a reasonably priced and full wine list, it was quiet enough that you could actually hear the other person talking, and I thought they charged a fair price for a menu that, although it had meat, was more focused on sustainable seafood. Everything was nicely prepared and present. I won't go into a description of everything I ate as I am sure the menu changes based on availability.

      It wasn't super packed given the positive reviews, which surprised me. I will definitely be back.

    2. Was mentioned on BlogTo a while back -

      And they have a link to their website -

      But no menu/etc on the website, just a link to reserve via opentable

      1. More details/pics/mini review -

        Haven't read it yet so don't have a synopsis

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          1. Redfish is really good. Chef David Friedman has worked at many places and the food is awesome. Try the octopus ssam and spaghetti with Bottarga.


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            1. re: samuek

              That sounds like a great restaurant. Love the menu and the emphasis on sustainable seafood (all too rare) and local ingredients.

              1. re: Flexitarian

                The resto does look amazing, but I have to disagree with the rare comment on sustainable seafood. I haven't been too a place in the past year that doesn't serve only sustainable seafood ( with the exception of dim sum!)

                1. re: LexiFirefly

                  Really? There are so many restaurants serving fish in Toronto where neither the website, menu or marketing materials mention sustainable fish is being served (let alone who they source their fish from, which Red Fish does). My experience has been that the server usually also doesn't have a clue if the fish is sustainable, where it was from, how it was caught, etc. and I always do ask.

                  Being primarily a fish eater when it comes to non-vegetarian protein, it would be nice if you could share some of the restaurants you've been to that market their fish as sustainable. I know that Fishbar mentions 'sustainable and ocean-friendly' right on their website and there probably are some others but my experience has been they are few and far between. Maybe I'm just not aware.

                  1. re: Flexitarian

                    You don't see sustainable certification on menus mostly because small restaurants can't afford to source all of their seafood from one supplier. Larger restaurants and hotels are more able to do this.

                    There are 2 competing sustainable seafood programs in Canada. Each supports different suppliers. One is and is supported by the like of the David Suzuki foundation and 4 other organizations, the other is Ocean Wise and a program of the Vancouver Aquarium. Some restaurants will have fish fillets that fall into one program or another but their shrimp may not fall into either so they don't get certification. In order to qualify for either program ALL of their seafood must come from their own approved suppliers and supporters It is really complicated and too bad that a great idea has to become a pissing match between groups.

                    1. re: Flexitarian

                      Off the top of my head right now, The Gabardine, Loire, Hadley's, Westhill Wine Bar (Scarborough) Kensington bistro I'm not sure about the shellfish as I dont usually eat them. As mentioned its expensive to get certification. Oh I believe most of keriwa cafes fish is sustainable to. Most of those above get their supply from Jim giggie who only sells local oceanwise certified fish. I like fish.

                      1. re: LexiFirefly

                        Thanks. I am aware of all of those organizations (and others around the world). But I think I am being misunderstood.

                        I am not referring to an actual 'certification' on menus. That would be nice but I fully appreciate that it may be impractical for many reasons (similar to how produce at the various local farmers markets around Toronto may be organic for all practical purposes, but they are not 'certified' by any organization as such). I am just looking for a sense that the restaurant tries as best as possible to focus on sustainable and ocean-friendly seafood, that they somehow market themselves as such (either on the menu or website or verbally when they describe the fish they are offering) and that their servers can answer questions about how where and how the fish was caught.

                        I have found this to be the exception not the rule.

                        1. re: Flexitarian

                          I've found the staff at Zee, Starfish, Chiado and Joso can answer the questions you're talking about.

                          Fish Bar on Ossington was trying to focus on sustainable choices.

                          A number of upscale restos (Canoe, Scaramouche, not sure where else) are following Oceanwise guidelines, which often seems to mean the typical selection in Toronto ends up being sea bream, branzino or black cod.

                          1. re: prima

                            Red Fish is the only "fish restaurant" in Toronto that sources 100% of its fish and seafood from sustainable sources. Quite a feat given that there's maybe one meat dish (short ribs at present) on the whole menu. Therein lies the distinction.

                            It's not too difficult for a restaurant that has a couple of fish dishes on its menu to carry only sustainable fish. (And kudos to any restaurant that permanently removes the revered-by-many Atlantic salmon from its menu.) Also, Ocean Wise certification does not mean that all fish/seafood items on a given menu are from sustainable sources; it's only a minimum percentage that's required for certification.

                            As for dining at Red Fish, we've done so a couple of times in the past month and had excellent meals and service. Their prices are very reasonable, portions are nicely sized, and chef David Friedman is constantly sourcing new, and often unusual, fish and seafood and inventing new dishes.

                            My favourite dishes there are the appetizers of fried smelts ($7 for a huge amount), which are addictive, the octopus ssam (a lettuce wrap of octopus in a spicy Korean sauce), and the brandade (which uses sustainably sourced salt cod, a rarity). All of the fish-filet mains we've tried have been good. I did have the spaghetti con bottarga and didn't love it as the dish was a bit dry and flavourless: the bottarga was merely grated over the top and had not been incorporated into a sauce. And they used spaghettini which I found to be too fine a pasta for the dish.


                            1. re: prima

                              I was under the impression that red fish and fishbar had the same owners.

                              1. re: LexiFirefly

                                That's good to know.

                                Hopefully they'll have more experienced, better trained servers at Red Fish.

                                1. re: LexiFirefly

                                  I don't think they are the same owners. It would be odd for someone to own two relatively new fish restaurants within blocks of eachother.

                                  1. re: Flexitarian

                                    From what I gather, David Friedman was a chef and part owner of Fishbar when it first opened but is no longer involved with that restaurant.

                                    1. re: Tatai

                                      I tried to eat at Red Fish tonight. I was drawn in by their advertised Sunday Fish Fry item on their website. However, after trekking it out in the rain, being told of said fish fry, the server returned a few minutes later and regretted that he had to advise me that the chef/owner advised the fish fry special is limited to parties of two and above. He was sorry but not as sorry as I was as I would have at least ordered a glass of wine and a dessert to round out things. Not in a rush to go back.

                                      1. re: deabot

                                        Oh, how dreadful. I just took a look at their website and they don't say a thing about a minimum number of guests for the fish fry. They say it's served "family style," but why not a smaller platter for one person? Despite the fact that I really like their food and their sustainable-fish mandate, I can't say I'd blame you if you didn't return.

                                        1. re: Tatai

                                          Yes I too am impressed with their sustainable fish mandate. But as I often find myself dining solo I am now wary of going there period! Chantecler has a similar set up on Sundays with their Lettuce Ssam meals but there is no restriction for numbers despite the fact that one gets a lot of meat per order! In fact, they have even allowed 2 people to share a single order!
                                          Anyways, I find it weird they would turn away a customer when there were only two other tables in the house at the time...oh well.

                                        2. re: deabot

                                          That is very disappointing to hear. I had a great meal there with a friend a week ago. Their website about Sunday Fish Fry ( nowhere states that it is is restricted to two people or more and, given that, what they should have done is serve you and then changed the website to reflect that the next day. It is still not changed. I guess some could argue that the 'Family Style Platters' reference suggests that more than two people are required but the fact that you didn't realize that, and I wouldn't have either, indicates that it is quite ambiguous.

                                          They dealt with this very poorly and ruined your evening there. I think restaurants would do better if they dealt with customers in a manner that the Four Seasons would have, ie the golden rule: Treat others as you would like to be treated.

                                          1. re: Flexitarian

                                            thanks all. I'm glad to hear you are in agreement. Yes granted there is some ambiguity about family style but the waiter further added to it by announcing the fish fry special first thing when he greeted my table. I got the feeling after the owner/chef sized me up as a solo diner he restricted the dinner. It was as you said in poor taste and does not leave me inclined to return. Shame because I was really looking forward to those fried smelts!

                                        3. re: Tatai

                                          thanks, Tatai.

                                          I'd be annoyed if I trekked to Red Fish for the fish fry, to be told their fish fry was only available to groups of 2 or more. I would think the Manager and Owner/Chef should be flexible enough to allow an exception to their fish fry rule, especially if the rule wasn't included in the advertisement.

                                          1. re: prima

                                            I just looked at the website, and it has now been changed it seems