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http://www.lohud.com/article/20120919...
Nothing new. No comment from Fairway. But they didn't deny it though, so I still have my fingers crossed.
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JMF
Aug 11, 2012 08:01 AM
Nice to hear. The Greenburgh location is twice as far as the Pelham one for me. But the traffic on the north bound Hutch is terrible. I'll have to see which is actually faster and easier to get to.
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MisterBill2
Aug 11, 2012 09:26 PM
Not sure where you're going on the Hutch but you can easily take local roads thru Mount Vernon to get back to the Cross County if that is where you're headed, and avoid the Hutch. If you have a GPS, it's simple.
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MisterBill2
Aug 13, 2012 09:10 AM
I guess it depends on the traffic and where you're coming from. When I hit traffic on the Hutch going north it's bumper to bumper going into the Cross County, where I exit. I will admit that I have not timed it.
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Cheese Boy
Aug 9, 2012 12:11 PM
Even a Danbury store could help you folks out in Northern Westchester. The modus operandi for Fairway seems to be ... wait for a failed supermarket to close, and then go in and occupy that said space. Fairway cannot (and likely will not) build brick and mortar from the ground up. With that said, if any of you Northern Westchester residents see anything in the 50,000 - 70,000 sq foot range available ... let Fairway know.
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re: Cheese Boy
There's the Food Emporium space in Yorktown, perfect spot.
A few weeks ago, while avoiding a traffic problem on I-84, I noticed a Whole Foods going up across from the Danbury Mall. That plus Stew's plus Trader Joe's all within a couple of miles from each other means food shopping heaven for me! Add a Fairway and I think I'll need a larger car--or at least an extra refrigerator. :)
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Cheese Boy
Aug 9, 2012 01:07 PM
Perfect ... especially since Whole Foods is claiming a spot in Danbury already.
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MisterBill2
Aug 9, 2012 07:10 PM
I'm pretty sure that the Food Emporium space is not 50k square feet, but I am unable to find anything online with the info (or a listing from A&P). Also if it is 50k, that's the max. Recent Fairway stores have been 60-80k in size. Oh yeah, and A&P has shown absolutely NO interest in renting that store to a competitor. It's bad enough (for them) that they're Turco's landlord!
Also, I don't think that a downtown Yorktown location would work well for them. And people would complain about traffic. Of course I would LOVE to have them here!
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MisterBill2
Aug 9, 2012 07:13 PM
Why do you say that they take over failed supermarkets and do not build from the ground up? Where have they done that recently other than Douglaston? Pelham was new development, Stamford new development, Nanuet new development, Westbury was a former Home Depot Expo, Paramus part of a mall. Not sure about the other NJ store (Woodland Hills?).
BTW, here is Fairway's non-committal response:
Thank you for your kind words about Fairway Market. It is gratifying to hear from customers satisfied with our products and services. We're always happy to receive customers' suggestions as to how we might better serve them. I will be sure to convey your suggestion to our new store development team.
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Cheese Boy
Aug 10, 2012 12:23 PM
The building in Pelham was not built for Fairway or by Fairway ownership.
As many of us know, that entire building was the former Caldor's / K-Mart space.
I will have to approach Dan [Glickberg] the next time I see him to verify the history of the
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MisterBill2
Aug 11, 2012 09:25 PM
It's easy enough to verify what they were if you look around online. If you see Dan, better to ask him about Greenburgh or other stores in Westchester. BTW, the upper east side location used to be Circuit City. And I know what Pelham was but it was not a failed supermarket (and I never said they built it themselves). Plainview (long time ago) and Douglaston are really the only ones that I know of that were supermarkets previously (both Waldbaums).
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re: Cheese Boy
How many supermarket chains actually build out new stand-alone structures these days? Many new ones I've seen in the White Plains/Greenburgh area opened in some existing commercial center, replacing closed stores (Shoprite in White Plains and in Scarsdale, HMart in Hartsdale). Among new supermarket openings, I think it's just the Stop&Shop in Tarrytown which has a completely new structure. It's funny because a similar comment was made about HMart when it was announced that it's opening in Hartsdale (http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7824...).
Nothing really bad with that strategy. It's practical to just take over an existing unused space which is already zoned for supermarket use.
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MisterBill2
Aug 12, 2012 07:42 AM
There is nothing wrong with going into closed supermarket spaces, but it's NOT something that Fairway has always done, as Cheese Boy claimed. They've done it a couple of times (as I described) but it is not their standard mode of operation.
Stop & Shop does typically build new stores, even in situations where they're replacing an existing store. And as you mentioned about Shoprite, their last stores in Westchester (also add New Rochelle) have gone into spaces that were previously used for something else.
Decicco's takes over supermarkets that have closed.
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Cheese Boy
Aug 12, 2012 08:50 PM
Never said 'always'. The word 'always' isn't anywhere in that original reply.
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MisterBill2
Aug 13, 2012 09:11 AM
But Stamford and Pelham were new buildings, and Nanuet will be as well. But it's not that important. They look for a building that meets their needs and if there is not one, they obviously have the landlord build it for them.
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iluvcookies
Aug 9, 2012 09:59 AM
That would be wonderful... I HATE the traffic on the Hutch to go to the one in Pelham Manor.
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MisterBill2
Aug 8, 2012 10:06 PM
Wow, that would be GREAT. This would be an actual Westchester store, as opposed to Pelham which may as well be in the Bronx for most Westchester residents (Paramus is just as close for me). With Nanuet opening soon they will really have the area covered (although I store further north near Yorktown or Mt. Kisco would be nice!).
BTW I just emailed someone at Fairway who had responded to a complaint I had a couple of months ago and said I heard the rumor and hope it's true. If I get any encouraging news in response I will post it here.
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re: MisterBill2
I heard on the news tonight (WNYC, during All Things Considered) that Fairway is going public with an IPO that is odd in that it is, basically, private. No info will go to the public about their revenue or profit. The story also said that at least 3 more stores are in the planning stages.
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MisterBill2
Aug 9, 2012 06:58 PM
They were already bought out a few years ago when they started expanding. I know of Nanuet and Westbury in the works, I guess that Greenburgh would be #3. I would not be surprised to hear that they're looking all over the place to fill in the empty spaces. I just wonder how far north they're considering.
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re: MisterBill2
This is something new. Going public with a not-quite-public IPO. It's something special for smaller businesses. You can learn about it (the Fairway going public talk) at the WNYC website; Brian Lehrer had a guest on earlier this week to talk about it (this is not the report on heard on the news later that day).
As for north, it seems that all the big fancy food chain stores think either there are transportation issues or not enough business where we live. Plus we all seem quite willing to travel for food shopping. I'm guessing it's the small highways and local roads that are their issues.
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i_eat_a_lot_of_ice_cream
Aug 8, 2012 07:20 AM
I had heard a rumor about this from a neighbor but refrained from posting without some confirmation so thank you for this! I thought it was a pie in the sky type thing but this gives me hope that I won't have to drive 45min+ for my fairway fix.
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