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Aug 6, 2012 09:18 PM

Are there any delis that serve true "Black Forest Ham"?

You know from Germany and everything where "Black Forest" is more of a geographic designation than a mere marketing tool?


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  1. I am also interested in the answer to your question, ipsedixit!

    None of the ham I have eaten in my adult years tastes like that of my childhood. What happened?
    Also, the texture of most deli meats is too rubbery for me. What happened?

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    1. re: liu

      I dunno the answers to your other questions, but I'm really curious if real "Black Forest Ham" can be had in a sandwich here in good ol' Los Angeles.

      1. re: ipsedixit

        (Whoops...disregard my little rant about the current state of deli meats.)

        I'd love to try some real Black Forest ham, too!

        1. re: liu

          No worries, I feel and share your angst over today's deli meats.

          But I fear that if we go down that road we're not only going to open up Pandora's Box, but her war chest, U-Haul truck, and bank vault all at the same time.

          1. re: ipsedixit

            I want some too! My dad used to make me sandwiches with Black Forest Ham that I still remember twenty years later. If someone can report a place just to get real PDO Black Forest Ham I will make the sandwich myself if I have to.

    2. Is there a "real" Black Forest ham? The few I've sampled weren't even German-made. The only "real" German ham I keep an eye out for is Westphalian ham. It's spectacular.

      1. Not from Germany or anything, but we've been getting this at Whole Foods, and it's way better than any other we've tried:

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        1. re: Steve Green

          I'm sure that would go really well with "California Champagne" ...

        2. You mght find it on the internet and I would start with

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          1. re: Hughlipton

            I gnome Black Forest ham...and you sir are no Black Forest Ham! ;-D> A little piece from the NY Times about tasting the real deal in the heart of the Forest:

            And for our German speaking friends:

            1. re: Servorg

              I'm lost Sevorg. Are you saying Abraham is not the real thing??

              1. re: Hughlipton

                Just having some fun with a very old Vice Presidential debate moment and linking the story about the difference between what all of us typically find around by the name "Black Forest Ham" vs what you find at a fine purveyor of the species right in the middle of the actual Black Forest. Abraham may be the real deal for all I know. Sorry for the confusion, Hugh. Seems to be my specialty at times...

          2. I wonder if the one at Schreiner's Deli in Montrose is a "true" version. I have never thought to ask. Or maybe in the Alpine Village market?

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              1. re: ipsedixit

                Nope, never looked at their website.

                1. re: WildSwede

                  I suspect that the USDA bans direct importation, as it does so many worthwhile cured meats. I can't remember seeing any truly German charcuterie anywhere in the U.S. Black Forest-style ham is a specialty of Schreiner's, though - they cure and smoke their own - and it's probably as good as you are likely to get.

                  1. re: condiment

                    Thanks, that is why I mentioned it since I know they do their own.