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Is Avocado the new bacon?

ipsedixit Jul 23, 2012 05:01 PM

Has the avocado craze overtaken bacon as the new "it" ingredient?

Thus far, off the top of my head, we have:

- Subway touting avocados as one of ther sub ingredients.

- Smashburger with an avocado garden burger

- Burger King and the California Burger with guacamole

- Wendy's with a similar guacamole burger concoction.

- Baja Fresh with avocado slices (not guacamole) in their burritos and fajitas

Can an avocado yogurt be far behind? Maybe a guacamole froyo? Or an avocado cupcake?

Anyone up for chocolate-dipped, deep-fried avocado fries?

Avocado Frappuccino® anyone? Yum ...

  1. BabsW Jul 23, 2012 05:16 PM

    Avocado fries have already arrived:

    http://quick-dish.tablespoon.com/2011...

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      khh1138 Jul 23, 2012 05:48 PM

      Oh, I was thinking of the avocado fries served at Connal's in Pasadena, CA, which is a dish sort of like chili fries - regular french fries smothered in a slightly spicy avocado sauce (but not quite as spicy as guacamole). But this sounds intriguing!

      My personal favourite way to enjoy avocados has always been as an avocado "shake" - add a little milk, a little honey, a little ice - blend - delicious. An Egyptian friend taught me this delicious no measure recipe.

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        debbiel Jul 23, 2012 05:55 PM

        That shake sounds wonderful.

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          Kholvaitar Jan 28, 2013 06:52 AM

          Here's a recipe maybe worth a try:

          The Avocado Bourbon Shake--

          http://mightygirl.com/2012/07/12/migh...

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          Kathleen M Jul 24, 2012 03:08 PM

          I just had a very similar dish at happy hour at a very upscale restaurant near where I live. After the first few bites, I couldn't eat any more. There was just this weird disconnect between the coolness of the avo with the "fried" taste.

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          debbiel Jul 23, 2012 05:55 PM

          I am too recently back on the omnivore wagon to have bacon pushed aside by avocados or anything else, with the possible exception of duck.

          Avocado is a great thing for a place like Subway to have because it's so wonderful in veg sandwiches. Other than nut butters, It's the most effective ingredient I can think of for turning a vegetarian sandwich into a satisfying meal. I haven't seen much of an increase in its use in restaurants in my town, though.

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            Big Bad Voodoo Lou Jul 23, 2012 08:16 PM

            I know Cheesecake Factory is reviled on Chowhound, but one of my favorite things to order there are their avocado eggrolls. I don't care for the Mimi's Cafe chain, but they have a burger I can always rely on, served on garlic bread, with cheese, bacon, AND avocado.

            Avocado and guacamole make everything better -- they are kind of like bacon that way. In Orlando's Vietnamese neighborhood, several local shops make bubble tea (boba tea), smoothies, and shakes, including avocado shakes and smoothies. They aren't quite as good as you would hope, but somehow better than you would expect.

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              sedimental Jul 23, 2012 08:39 PM

              I love avocado ice cream and avocado chocolate velvet pudding and avocado chocolate pie!

              I hope it is the new "it" ingredient...healthy, tasty and versatile. What more could you ask for?

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                HillJ Jul 23, 2012 09:17 PM

                I've been baking this cake for a number of years, http://joythebaker.com/2009/07/vegan-...

                Avocado eggs is a regular around my place. We use avocados like butter.

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                  mochamike Jul 24, 2012 12:05 PM

                  there's already avocado bread, I wish there was bacon bread as well

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                    ipsedixit Jul 24, 2012 08:59 PM

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22ba...

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                      debbiel Jul 25, 2012 10:37 AM

                      Hmm...now thinking about a BLT made on avocado bread...

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                        Bill Hunt Jul 25, 2012 09:39 PM

                        Avocado bread is one thing, but can it replace "bacon flavored beer?"
                        http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/17814...

                        Hunt

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                        westaust Jul 25, 2012 12:13 PM

                        Avocado and bacon go so well together! No reason for one to take the place of the other!

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                          pdxgastro Jul 30, 2012 05:42 PM

                          Avocado and bacon on turkey is one of my favorite sandwiches.

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                            twyst Aug 2, 2012 06:02 PM

                            Same here!

                        2. Bill Hunt Jul 25, 2012 09:36 PM

                          Maybe the "new tomato," but I cannot see it replacing bacon.

                          <<Anyone up for chocolate-dipped, deep-fried avocado fries?>>

                          Now here, I could see it replacing the Twinkie...

                          Hunt

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                            Davwud Jul 26, 2012 04:18 AM

                            I agree. The biggest problem avocado has is it doesn't taste like bacon. Unlike bacon.

                            DT

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                              ipsedixit Jul 26, 2012 07:46 AM

                              That's not the point.

                              It's not that avocado tastes like bacon, it's that it's become ubiquitous as the new "it" ingredient the way bacon has seemed to permeate every single facet of our dining options.

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                                HillJ Jul 26, 2012 07:54 AM

                                My partner and I weren't able to buy avocados year round until about 5-6 years ago. Bacon has been a staple forever. So we attribute the IT factor to the availability (change) across the country. Our CA partners use to brag about pulling avocados from the trees and we would be so envious...not so anymore.

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                                  Bill Hunt Jul 26, 2012 09:34 PM

                                  Oh, we are now trying to define "IT." Was that not part of President Bill Clinton's defense?

                                  Glad to know what we are actually talking about, as it does not appear to be bacon, or even avocado.

                                  Now, can you define what "IT" is?

                                  Hunt

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                                    emmekin Aug 2, 2012 11:01 PM

                                    "I used to be with IT. Then they changed what IT was. Now what I'm with isn't IT and what is IT seems weird and scary to me." - Grandpa Simpson.

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                                      Bill Hunt Sep 19, 2012 08:46 PM

                                      Great quotation. I am there.

                                      Seems that every 9 mos., there is a "new bacon," and it depends on where one is.

                                      Hunt

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                              escondido123 Jul 25, 2012 10:01 PM

                              I consider avocado a fairly delicate flavor, maybe the exact opposite of bacon. I live in avocado country so can get the richest, ripest ones right off the tree. I still find them to be a waste on burgers but they make a perfect BLTA though my favorite is ripe avocado on toast with olive oil and salt.

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                                Buckeye_Local Jul 26, 2012 08:07 AM

                                A dish of cold San Diego County grown avocados topped with Best Foods Mayo sprinkled with lemon juice would be good right now. I grew up in South Orange County, California and for many years the avocados in our local stores were grown in San Diego County (SDC) and were large. I moved to the Phoenix area about 4 years ago and noticed the avocados in the stores around here come from Chile or other countries in South America and are a lot smaller. They do not have the good flavor that San Diego county grown avocados have. I think Escondido123 knows what I mean? For those that have not tried it, try to find Avocados grown in San Diego County, I think you'll be hooked.

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                                  escondido123 Jul 26, 2012 08:32 AM

                                  And for the best avocado, get it straight from the tree fully ripe. Those have the most oil and therefore the most flavor.

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                                    EWSflash Jul 27, 2012 06:27 PM

                                    I was told that avocados don't ripen until after they fall off the tree, which seemed odd to me. Was that true, or was the company I bought a box of avocados from leading me down the primrose path about the cannonballs they delivered to me (which eventually ripened perfectly, by the way)?

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                                      escondido123 Jul 27, 2012 06:45 PM

                                      Fully ripe and soft are too separate things. I understand that they do not get soft until picked, but the longer they stay on the tree the more oil is created within the avocado. Does that make sense?

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                                        EWSflash Jul 27, 2012 07:49 PM

                                        It does- thanks very much. I can now order avocados from them without suspecting them of BSing me.
                                        Also, since I really dislike the whole * is the new * thing, I will just say that it's time that avocados got the full benefit of the glory that they deserve, even if people will try to gild the lily by frying it, etc. since every time i"ve had a cooked avocado it's given over to a bitterness that I dislike.

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                                          escondido123 Jul 27, 2012 09:16 PM

                                          Fried, grilled or otherwise cooked avocados are disgusting to me. Now spread on a warm piece of toast with a drizzle of olive oil/balsamic and sprinkle of salt, that's a whole nother thing. Of course, I am talking about Hass, Fuerte and Bacon ones not those fat Florida varieties.

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                                flavrmeistr Jul 29, 2012 04:25 PM

                                I lived on avocados, beans and rice for long periods when it was all we had. They were definitely the 'it food" then. Still love 'em and eat two or three every week.

                                1. Tripeler Jul 29, 2012 08:26 PM

                                  To me, avocados are not the "new bacon" but rather they are still those "good old avocados."

                                  However, Props to Ipsedixit for asking yet another great question.

                                  1. fldhkybnva Jul 30, 2012 06:08 PM

                                    Perhaps I will have officially labeled myself an idiot, but I find that avocados have no taste whatsoever, what is the appeal?

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                                      mpjmph Jul 30, 2012 06:14 PM

                                      You are not an idiot. I'm convinced there is an avocado taste trait similar to the cilantro taste trait. I tried to like avocados for years, but they don't taste like anything to me, and I find the texture very unpleasant. Last summer I went out to lunch with my cousin, and watched him systematically remove the avocado pieces from his salad. He said the same thing - flavorless. I brought it up at Thanksgiving as a joke, but it turns out 2/3 of my relatives dislike avocado and find it flavorless.

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                                        fldhkybnva Jul 30, 2012 06:33 PM

                                        Yea, however there are times where I "like" though I'm not sure if it's me just trying to like it as it seems like most of the world loves it. I agree...in addition to no taste, I often find it an odd texture in my mouth. Are there different varieties that have different flavors?

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                                          khh1138 Jul 31, 2012 12:03 PM

                                          "Are there different varieties that have different flavors?"
                                          Oh, most definitely! Hass is the way to go, imo. If you don't like a hass avocado, yes, there must be something different about your taste buds. But there are lots of different varieties - like the zutano, which has a light smooth skin and to my palate, tastes like grass and water. I stick to the avocados with a pebbly surface that darkens - I find they have a richer, nuttier flavour.

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                                          Bacardi1 Aug 1, 2012 11:05 AM

                                          You may be on to something. I LOVE avocados, but my husband refuses to eat them. Says they have a strange taste & texture to him that he just can't fathom. And my husband isn't a picky eater, so I'm sure there's definitely something to his aversion.

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                                            pinehurst Sep 19, 2012 09:43 AM

                                            Yes...my husband won't touch them for the same reason though I LOVE them....he will eat small amounts of guacamole, and that's it.

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                                          julesrules Jul 31, 2012 12:13 PM

                                          If they are not ripened sufficiently, they have little flavour. For a while there was a "tip" circulating that you could ripen them in the microwave. This may make them softer, but they will not develop flavour. I sometimes wonder if bad chain restaurants are using such tricks to make sure they have enough "ripe" avocado on hand. Grocery store pre-made guacamole is also flavourless, to me. And I do think they are better in simple dishes. On a BALT and other sandwiches they are wonderful, but kind of a mayo/butter sub, rather than a strong flavour element.
                                          I don't think avocado will ever become the new bacon here in Toronto. The small ones cost well over a dollar these days, and casual places charge more than $10 for guacamole. A little bacon goes a long way, not so avocado.

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                                            Buckeye_Local Aug 1, 2012 10:39 AM

                                            I think one of the reasons some people say that avocados have no flavor is because they are not eating avocados grown in the Fallbrook/Poway area of San Diego County. The soil and climate has alot to do with growing quality avocados.

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                                              julesrules Aug 1, 2012 10:56 AM

                                              I know people are fierce about their local avocados, and I'm sure they are great, but only Central American imports are available in Canada that I have seen. And they are not all "flavourless", although I always at least apply salt :)

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                                                escondido123 Aug 1, 2012 11:02 AM

                                                You are so right, too many avocados are pulled off the tree too soon and then put into refrigeration. As to growers, you can add Escondido to the list though they have fewer growers than in the two cities you mentioned.

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                                                  HillJ Aug 1, 2012 11:10 AM

                                                  When we visit friends in Ojai we take long strolls around the neighborhoods and pass hundreds of avocado trees. Dozen of beautiful avocados would line my friends kitchen window sill and we lived on the stuff the entire time we visit.

                                                  20 years ago I would pine away for those flavors during an eastcoast winter but today my most markets are offering great quality avocado year round.

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                                                    flavrmeistr Aug 2, 2012 05:58 PM

                                                    My favorite are the large smooth-skin Caribbean varieties. I lived on a property in St. Thomas with a tree that was well over 200 years old. The fruit was as big as your head and exquisite.

                                                2. re: fldhkybnva
                                                  fldhkybnva Jun 2, 2013 08:53 PM

                                                  Well, I guess I'm now I'm in the avocado fan club. I gave it another shot tonight for some unknown reason it was staring at me in the store and only $1 so I went for it. I was going to do something elaborate but went with a simple preparation of halved, salt and pepper and lemon and it was delicious. So buttery, light and subtle, yet flavorful enough that you keep coming back for more but can't figure out why. Perhaps I just needed to find a good avocado. Thanks to all here for tips on your favorite ways to eat them.

                                                3. ipsedixit Sep 18, 2012 09:12 PM

                                                  I was about 6 weeks too early for the WSJ.

                                                  In an article titled: "Breaking Out of Guacamole to Become a Produce Star" the WSJ writes about the growing popularity of this emerald fruit.

                                                  Money quote:
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                                                  In consumers' minds, the avocado has been transformed from exotic "fatty food" to everyday source of "heart-healthy" fats. "We fought the health message for years and years. A fat was a fat was a fat," says Mike Browne, marketing committee chairman for the Mexican Hass Avocado Importers Association, a Fallston, Md., marketing group. Now, he says, "the stars have aligned."
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                                                  Read it here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000...

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                                                    HillJ Sep 19, 2012 04:43 AM

                                                    Therein lies your answer.

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                                                    tardigrade Sep 19, 2012 09:11 PM

                                                    Avocado glut + zealous Avocado Marketing Board? Last year I had a bumper crop on my tree, enough for me and the accursed squirrels.

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                                                      HillJ Jan 28, 2013 07:20 AM

                                                      I think Greek yogurt is the new avocado!
                                                      Now Greek yogurt 'nuggets' are appearing in dry cereal...
                                                      can't imagine where this will lead.

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                                                        NanaMoussecurry Jun 6, 2013 03:59 PM

                                                        Agreeing on the yogurt thing. Getting hard to find plain ole regular yogurt.
                                                        Avocado is old news, always seemed to me like a west coast staple.

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