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AndiRen Jul 23, 2012 04:41 PM

DC & Baltimore Institutions?

We'll be visiting at the end of August and want to hit the old institutions in both cities. We like to eat where locals have been eating for decades - love the cheap greasy spoons, fish joints and diners. We're looking for inexpensive eats that are near enough to sightseeing. Obviously, we've heard about Ben's chili bowl. What else? Thanks, Chowhounds!

  1. monkeyrotica Jul 31, 2012 08:13 AM

    Deli City has the best reuben in DC. Cheap by DC standards.

    Chaps or Pioneer for pit beef. Raw onion and horseradish. Never been impressed by Attman's; combines the worst elements of tourist tackiness with a pricetag to match. If you want a real dive, go up the street to Weiss Deli for a fatty corned beef. Get a couple coddies while you're at it, another vanishing foodstuff.

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      Elyssa Jul 31, 2012 06:03 AM

      In DC check out CF Folks for lunch (only open Monday-Friday, check online for daily specials). Go to Eastern Market on the weekends--the hot smokes are good as are the blueberry pancakes from Market Lunch. Grab a cocktail at one of DC's oldest bars: you can either go to the Round Robin at the Willard or Off the Record at the Hay Adams. Both are within walking distance from the White House and have storied pasts.

      For cheap eats I would highly recommend checking out some of our food trucks. On Fridays a bunch of them gather at Farragut Square. You can also track where they all are on the Washingtonian's website: http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/be...

      Some of my favorites at the moment are The Ficelle (french sandwiches), Goode's Mobile Cuisine (Amazing Caribbean fare), Yellow Vendor (Korean), and Chef Driven Cuisine (for restaurant-style food out of a truck).

      Finally definitely go get some Ethiopian food while you are in town. It's a DC specialty, delicious and affordable. I personally like Etete.

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        123sadie Jul 30, 2012 12:05 PM

        Crisfields in silver spring md crab cakes and the best fries anywhere

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          dining with doc Jul 30, 2012 01:39 PM

          good for here but mediocre by my standards as a Baltimore native living now in Montco

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          flavrmeistr Jul 27, 2012 10:06 AM

          You're at least 10-20 years to late to visit the great eating and drinking institutions of DC. Rhodes Tavern, O'Donnells, Hogate's, Duke Ziebert's, Scholls Cafeteria, Eddie Leonard's, The Childe Harold, One Step Down, Mac's Pub, The Bayou--gone.

          There are still a handful of the old places left.
          The Tombs
          The Exchange
          Stan's
          The Quarterdeck (Rosslyn)
          The Post Pub
          Steak n' Egg Kitchen

          Rents are high in this town.

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            drewpbalzac Jul 30, 2012 10:56 AM

            I would add Hot Shopes Cafeteria to your classics list . . .

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              flavrmeistr Jul 30, 2012 11:58 AM

              Yes, and the Hot Shoppes Drive-Ins. S&W Cafeterias were pretty good, too. Good cafeterias in general seem to have fallen by the wayside.

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                hill food Jul 30, 2012 07:53 PM

                and Reeves' - also gone.

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              GraydonCarter Jul 30, 2012 11:25 AM

              Krupin's Deli with pastrami sliced tissue paper thin

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                flavrmeistr Jul 30, 2012 11:55 AM

                ...with chopped liver. We still have the Vienna Inn, Mario's, Beenie Weenie, Martin's Tavern, City Deli. The Italian Store is a neo-classic, I guess.

                RIP also: Whitey's, Nathan's (the bar, not the hot dog), Frank's (nee Teddy's) P&P Chili Lounge, Tom Sarris' New Orleans House, Lum's, O'Carroll's Seafood, The Blue Mirror...ah, me.

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                  drewpbalzac Jul 30, 2012 02:16 PM

                  Giffords Ice Cream

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                FoiGras Jul 31, 2012 08:51 AM

                Whatever happened to Mo's and Joe's? FoiGras

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                AndiRen Jul 26, 2012 09:22 PM

                Thank you so much, hounds! We can't wait to visit.

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                  jonasty75 Jul 25, 2012 01:07 AM

                  Check out Wisemiller's Grocery and Deli. Its right on the edge of Georgetown University's campus and serves GREAT sandwhich/subs.
                  Try the Chicken Madness w/ everything!!!
                  Fantastic tasting and cheap - the Georgetown setting doesn't suck either.
                  When I lived in DC I would go all the time - when I visit now it's a must stop.

                  Wisemiller's Grocery & Deli
                  (202) 333-8254
                  Georgetown
                  1236 36th St NW
                  Washington, DC 20007

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                    Just Visiting Jul 24, 2012 06:35 AM

                    It isn't a greasy spoon, but it sure is an institution - The Women's Industrial Exchange at 333 N. Charles St. About eight blocks north of the Inner Harbor.

                    It is basically a tea shop and step back into time. To the 1940s. It was a place for women to sell their hand-crafts. The great, great, great, great grandma of Etsy. Think egg salad on white bread. Actually, they have apparently brought someone in to upgrade the food but it is still basic comfort food.

                    Now closer to your request, I am surprised that no one mentioned Polock Johnny's. Now that is a Balto institution! Unfortunately, not in the downtown area except at the ballpark.

                    And then over on Corned Beef Row (short drive from Inner Harbor), Attman's and Jack's Corned Beef. Now, I never found them to be very good, but I was judging by NY standards. I remember so clearly watching them throw the corned beef on the grill to heat it before serving it. My also-from-NY boyfriend and I were shocked. And machine-sliced. But everyone else loves these places, so go for it.

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                      drewpbalzac Jul 24, 2012 07:28 AM

                      I know it is bad for me, but I love my PJ's . . .

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                        Vidute Jul 24, 2012 11:44 PM

                        Besides the ballpark, Polock Johnny's has locations on Washington Blvd in Southwest Baltimore and at Security Square Mall in Woodlawn.

                        http://www.polockjohnnys.com/location...

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                        Hal Laurent Jul 25, 2012 01:06 PM

                        Jack's has been gone from Corned Beef Row for years. Lennie's is where Jack's used to be.

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                        drewpbalzac Jul 24, 2012 06:25 AM

                        DC -

                        Tune Inn - Capital Hill: Greasy burgers, cheap beer, Patsy Cline on the jukebox for the past 50 years at least

                        Eastern Market - Historic barely gentrified indoor market with attendant farmers/flea market outside on Saturdays and Sundays. Good for grazing and light shopping from a variety of craft merchants. Decent grub at Market Lunch inside the hall at the north end (look for the lines), cold cuts from Canales' Deli, cheese from the cheese snob, and baked goods from the vendor at the South end of the hall. Vendors outside that I particularly like are : Ma Brown for baked goods (best pecan pies, EVER!), and the cinnamon pecans from the pecan guy who passes out samples like he is giving crack cocaine to kids to get them hooked (get the pecans avoid the temptation to stray to other nuts).

                        You should also probably consider Old Ebbitt Grill. Others on the board will freak out at this selection but the fact of the matter is lobbyists and White House and Treasury Department Staff have been eating here for generations. The food isn't the best in town but it isn't the worst, it is a more expensive that the "greasy spoon" type places that you seem to prefer and in August there won't be many "locals" in the joint, but the place is right next to the White House and they put out a pretty good burger.

                        If you are really adventurous you could try Harry's at the Hotel Harrington, the food is not good, but it is a cheap greasy spoon that young Capitol Hill and Administration staffers have been flocking to for years.

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                          hill food Jul 30, 2012 07:51 PM

                          the "cheese snob" at the EM?

                          I'll have you know I saw him smile once. I did I tells ya. right after the renovation during the 'soft' re-opening. when was that, 4+ years ago? catch him on a slow day and he can actually be quite nice. Close of business on Sunday and yeah Mr. Crankypants emerges.

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                            drewpbalzac Jul 31, 2012 05:42 AM

                            I actually like him, but friends of mine are afraid of him. . . .

                            When they get slammed they get a little annoyed when folks come up and do not know what they want or ask for recomendations.

                            My only beef is that they never seem to suggest anything too funky or challenging, they always seem to play it safe with their recomendations. . . .I guess that is what keeps customers coming back.

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                              hill food Aug 2, 2012 01:25 PM

                              I did get a good chuckle once when a 20-something person wanted to know if Limburger was a good cheese for a party. he gave a non-committal "sure" I chimed in "my Grandmother LOVED that stuff"

                              but yeah I got tired of that 'gouda-parmesan' they shove on everyone after a while.

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                                drewpbalzac Aug 3, 2012 10:11 AM

                                I think of Parano as a "gateway cheese".

                                You get them a taste of a little something that they have never heard of before.

                                You build up them up with something a little stronger, but that still has cultural roots that they can appreciate . . . like a real stilton with a little pear and walnuts . . . or an aged gouda with the little protein crystals . . . .

                                And once they hit a full on cheese - you hit with the hard stuff - something funky and runny . . . . and then you have them hooked.

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                                  hill food Aug 4, 2012 10:52 PM

                                  mmm, when one refers to moldy Camembert as 'kid's stuff' and moves on to the Taleggio. the lost sleep, waiting outside for them to open...screaming "this is NOT true Reggiano and it has NOT been aged 6 years!"

                                  yeah the payday loans, the restraining orders, the tears, it all got a little complicated.

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                          Vidute Jul 24, 2012 12:46 AM

                          Baltimore:

                          Sip and Bite, open 24/7
                          http://www.sipandbite.com/

                          Crazy John's- located in what's left of Baltimore's Red Light District good soups and daily specials. fellow diners range from politicos to dancers

                          http://crazyjohnsbaltimore.com/

                          Broadway Market in Fells Point- American, Hispanic, and Polish foods

                          http://baltimore.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=baltimore&cdn=citiestowns&tm=15&gps=287_67_1362_562&f=10&su=p284.13.342.ip_p554.23.342.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.bpmarkets.com/bwy2.html

                          Krakus Deli in Fells Point- homemade Polish sausages

                          http://www.krakusdelibaltimore.com/index.html

                          Cross Street Market- Nick's Seafood
                          http://www.southbaltimore.com/shop/crossmkt.html

                          An FYI regarding Lexington Market. It seems to have hit a rough patch, with about a quarter or more of the market vacant. Yes, Faidley's is still there, but no more Polock Johnny's or Rheb's candies.

                          Kibby's Restaurant and Lounge in Southwest Baltimore- and yes, the shrimp salad is delicious!
                          http://www.kibbysrestaurant.net/

                          Pioneer Pit Beef- just west of Baltimore. Better than Chaps! (ok, there is a rivalry
                          )(410) 455-0015
                          1602 N. Rolling Road, Woodlawn (Intersection of Johnnycake Rd and Rolling Rd)

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                            MGZ Aug 2, 2012 01:28 PM

                            Good list. I was in Baltimore for a good part of the 90s - Camdem Yards sell outs, Cal's record breaking run, brewpub explosion, etc. Bad to hear about the decline of Lexington Market. Used to live on Paca and went there a LOT. Is the guy still selling the freshly ground horseradish? Other than Faidley's, he was a must stop for me.

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                              Vidute Aug 3, 2012 05:27 PM

                              As of a couple of months ago, Cony Island was still there.

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                            dining with doc Jul 23, 2012 07:20 PM

                            baltimore Faidleys and Lexington Market in general, Attmans Jewish Delicatessen

                            dc Eastern Market, Maine Avenue Seafood barges

                            1. agarnett100 Jul 23, 2012 06:18 PM

                              DC
                              Horace & Dickies 809 12th St NE
                              (between N H St & N Wylie St)
                              Washington, DC 20002
                              Neighborhood: H Street Corridor/Atlas District/Near Northeast

                              (202) 397-6040
                              http://www.horaceanddickies.com/

                              DC Wharf - oysters on the half shell and other fried delights
                              Vace
                              3315 Connecticut Ave NW
                              (between N Ordway St & N Porter St)
                              Washington, DC 20008

                              (202) 363-1999
                              http://www.vaceitaliandeli.com

                              Baltimore
                              Chaps Pit Beef
                              5801 Pulaski Hwy
                              Baltimore, MD 21205
                              Neighborhood: Pulaski Industrial Area
                              (410) 483-2379

                              Faidley's -Crab Cakes - inside Lexington Market
                              203 North Paca Street Baltimore, MD 21201
                              (410) 727-4898
                              http://www.chapspitbeef.com

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