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lawgirl3278 Jul 23, 2012 11:33 AM

About time I say! Philly is perfect for The Layover

http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/mealti...

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    tfalbo Jul 26, 2012 07:34 AM

    One other thing to keep in mind is that The Layover is a distinct concept from No Reservations. With the Layover, it seems like the approach is to stick with much more straightforward places that you would hit if you only had 24 hours or so in a major city, rather than digging up all of the out of the way joints that he flocks towards on No Reservations.

    That would likely inform a lot of his decisions on what to see & do. I wouldn't be surprised to see him do Independence Hall and the like. Though I am glad that the soundly-beaten-to-televised-death cheesesteak won't show up.

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      Philly Ray Jul 26, 2012 07:41 AM

      Some of the places he visited are hardly straightforward spots in Philly (Ken's Cafe??). And I saw a Facebook post that tagged him as back in New York already, so it doesn't look like the Reading Terminal made the cut either.

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        tfalbo Jul 26, 2012 07:50 AM

        Yikes. I cannot imagine him coming to Philly and not stopping at RTM. That would be extremely strange and kind of a let down. I think that would be every local's first suggestion as a spot to visit in Philly, whether you had a weekend or an hour to kill.

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          cwdonald Jul 26, 2012 07:56 AM

          I wonder if they worried about a place that would not have a consistent experience. If you go to the RTM on days the Amish vendors are not present, the experience is not the same or as satisfying.

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            caganer Jul 26, 2012 08:29 AM

            I can't think of any one thing to eat at the RTM for which there isn't a better or equal alternative elsewhere. (Maybe the pretzels at Miller's Twist but they're not "philly style" so competition is scarce.)
            I'd recommend the RTM to an out-of-towner because it's good, central and easy. But, if that out-of-towner had a car, driver, locals to guide him and a TV show to make, as Bourdain did, I'd send him elsewhere. RTM is a good market but it pales in comparison to the great markets of the world - many of which Bourdain has visited and filmed.

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              bluehensfan Jul 26, 2012 10:56 AM

              RTM is truly more than the sum of its parts. But some of the parts are damned good. Oh well....Bourain's loss is our gain.

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                Delucacheesemonger Jul 26, 2012 11:20 AM

                'RTM is a good market but it pales in comparison to the great markets of the world - many of which Bourdain has visited and filmed.'

                TRU DAT

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                  barryg Jul 26, 2012 11:29 AM

                  How about compared to US markets? He did film Pike Place in Seattle and the West Side Market in Cleveland, which are both comparable to RTM.

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                    Delucacheesemonger Jul 26, 2012 12:29 PM

                    Tru Dat as well.

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                      caganer Jul 26, 2012 12:57 PM

                      Philly is much bigger and so naturally has more to do, and eat, than either of those places. I think it bodes well for Philly that Bourdain and crew could do a food show about Philly, skip several great places (not just RTM) and still feel confident of being able to produce a good show.

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                        barryg Jul 26, 2012 12:58 PM

                        tru dat

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                          Bigley9 Jul 27, 2012 07:13 AM

                          barryg and deluca you better watch out or the moderators are going to move your comments to the New Orleans board! Bon temps roular!

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                            Delucacheesemonger Jul 27, 2012 07:33 AM

                            Actually Baltimore-D.C.

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                              cwdonald Jul 27, 2012 08:31 AM

                              I did hear that the crew shot at the Philadelphia Magic Garden after Bourdain left. Too bad they didnt go to Brauhuas Schmidtz which is right down the street.

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                      Bacchus101 Jul 30, 2012 06:05 AM

                      Yes RTM is fine but does indeed" pales in comparison to the great markets of the world" , at least those I have visited.

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                        arepo Aug 6, 2012 05:33 AM

                        Isn't it possible that Bourdain and crew have set it all up this way because they get "perked" by certain establishments? Why should this reality show be any different from the others?
                        Just askin'.

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              Philly Ray Jul 24, 2012 11:03 AM

              I'm reading in various places that he's been to DiBruno's and Paesano's on 9th St and to the Mutter Museum (not to dine, presumably).

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                phillybakingqueen Jul 24, 2012 04:13 PM

                Where will he be next? THAT is the question!

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                  Philly Ray Jul 24, 2012 04:16 PM

                  I would bet that he turns up at Reading Terminal Market and maybe dinner at Vetri.

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                    Philly Ray Jul 24, 2012 07:36 PM

                    Ok bakingqueen, I'm reading on Twitter that he's at Dirty Frank's now. Here's your chance.

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                      cwdonald Jul 25, 2012 05:35 AM

                      He dined at Amis .. interesting choice. and supposedly went to both Mutter musuem (very appropriate.. ) and the Barnes Museum.

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                        barryg Jul 25, 2012 06:01 AM

                        Here is a Q&A with Bourdain about the trip: http://philly.eater.com/archives/2012...

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                          Buckethead Jul 25, 2012 07:15 AM

                          "Interesting" is one way to put it! "Uninteresting" is how I'd put it. I mean, he finally makes a show about Philly and he has dinner at our best-known chef's least-good restaurant? After visiting DiBruno Bros.? Those aren't exactly "off the tired old tourist path", y'know? Even Paesano's has been on national TV. Supposedly he's back at it today, we'll see if he makes more interesting choices. His bar choices were much more interesting, Dirty Frank's and supposedly he was at Hop Sing Laundromat later on. I wonder if Lee relaxed his no-cameras rule?

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                            Philly Ray Jul 25, 2012 07:27 AM

                            Just because he ate dinner at Amis does not mean it will be on he show. I'm sure he has "down time". And according to the link Barry posted this morning, Bourdain seemed to enjoy Amis.

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                              Bacchus101 Jul 25, 2012 07:27 AM

                              Interesting points on " Uninteresting".

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                                barryg Jul 25, 2012 07:37 AM

                                I agree with you but it's worth noting that Marc was in the house when Bourdain ate at Amis so I'm sure he got a stellar experience.

                                He needs to hit Nick's Roast Beef, Chink's, some real Philly places.

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                                  Buckethead Jul 25, 2012 07:51 AM

                                  I'm sure he gets the best of a place wherever he goes, it's just not a very interesting choice for a TV show about Philly. I mean, what's the storyline with Amis? Marc wanted to open a slightly more affordable restaurant? Osteria has that, is better, and also has a more interesting story in Vetri sending Jeff Michaud to Italy to learn the food, Jeff meets his future wife, brings her mom's recipes back to cook them at Osteria. I guess I'm just disappointed that after ignoring Philly for so long, he doesn't appear to have made much of an effort to dig up our gems. Especially when the stated goal of his show is that he "gets off the tired old tourist path and tries something new". So far he's beaten the tourist path pretty well. I guess we'll have to wait for the episode to air to know for sure though, he probably made it to a few places yesterday that we didn't hear about.

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                                    Hungryin theBurbs Jul 25, 2012 08:31 AM

                                    I agree it would be nice to see some more interesting choices, but I'm not hopeful. He just tweeted that he was at Pho 75 (good, but not particularly unique to Philly), and that it will be a cheesesteak free episode. It will be interesting to see where else he shows up today.

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                                      Philly Ray Jul 25, 2012 08:39 AM

                                      His tweet about Pho 75 leads me to believe that he simply wanted pho for breakfast/hangover cure. His fondness for Vietnamese is well documented from all of his tv shows. Once again, I doubt we will see this on the actual show. The cameras are not documenting every meal he has here.

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                                        barryg Jul 25, 2012 11:51 AM

                                        Looks like it was filmed (not that it will necessarily air), and he was breaking broth with Mike Solomonov. So Bourdain will likely hit Zahav, as he should.

                                        http://philly.eater.com/archives/2012...

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                                          Philly Ray Jul 25, 2012 12:07 PM

                                          Not Percy St BBQ??? ;))

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                                            cwdonald Jul 25, 2012 12:12 PM

                                            Actually I was thinking Federal Donuts since he emphasizes street food.

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                                      barryg Jul 25, 2012 09:02 AM

                                      Here is what he said about Amis in Collin Flatt's brief Q&A:
                                      "I was told how great Italian food was here, but it's like, so what? Lots of people do great Italian. But, Marc is doing just flat out amazing Roman Italian right here in this restaurant. If you took a Roman osteria and just dropped it in Philly, this would be it. It's a focus that you can't find anywhere else."

                                      So he apparently thinks it is unique. Personally I wouldn't take an out of town visitor there again after two less than stellar (and overpriced) visits.

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                                        JanR Jul 25, 2012 09:06 AM

                                        Yes. A bit surprised at Bordain's extravagant take on Amis.

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                                          sockii Aug 2, 2012 02:59 PM

                                          I still don't quite get the general ChowHound love for Osteria and hate for Amis. I've had 3 awesome meals so far at Amis and 1 very lukewarm experience at Osteria which really gave me no imperative reason to go back. To me, Amis IS very true to the Roman food I've enjoyed in Italy - though neither Osteria nor Amis has made artichokes that measure anything *close* to true Carciofi alla giudía.

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                                            barryg Aug 2, 2012 03:17 PM

                                            Speaking of Carciofi alla giudía... anyone remember Tiramisu on 5th near South St? They closed some years back but it just was reincarnated (same owners) on the 1500 block of Walnut. I never went, but heard they were famous for their artichokes and they are back on the menu. How did they compare to Amis or Rome for that matter?

                                            http://www.tiramisuphiladelphia.com/d...

                                            FTR I was underwhelmed by both Osteria and Amis, and thought they were both overpriced. A major exception is the chicken liver rigatoni which I still think about often.

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                                              sockii Aug 2, 2012 04:42 PM

                                              Oh my goodness, if Tiramisu is back, I am SO going there as soon as possible! That is one of my earliest food memories of when I first moved to Philly in the 90s...their artichokes were outstanding - in my memory, of course. Whether they stand up today since I've been to Rome and pigged out for nights on them will be a real test. I still remember a pasta they used to make with rock shrimp, radicchio and angel hair pasta I spent many evenings trying to reproduce.

                                              I wanted to love the Chicken Liver Rigatoni at Osteria as I adore chicken livers (I regularly make pasta and other dishes with it at home) but I found it sadly lacking in actual liver-y flavor at Osteria when I tried it. After all the raving about it here, maybe it was just too much hype? It tasted like a nice Northern Italian bolognese to me, but not as intense in chicken liver flavor as I expected and desired.

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                                          Bacchus101 Jul 30, 2012 06:02 AM

                                          Belated, quite right!

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                                          Mawrter Aug 11, 2012 10:30 PM

                                          +1

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                                      The Chowhound Team Jul 25, 2012 07:51 AM

                                      Folks, we removed a number of posts about museums. We realize it's a natural tangent given Bourdain's itinerary, but it's pretty far afield for Chowhound.

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                                        cwdonald Jul 25, 2012 08:01 AM

                                        The posts about museums reflect the TELEVISION SHOW.. perhaps the whole thread should be moved to media.. but it is relevent if you are going to discuss his television show that combines sites and food. Heavy handed editing here we go again...

                                        I am curious what other places people think Bourdain should have visited.. mexican in the italian market... polish in port richmond... rtm...

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                                          travelmad478 Jul 25, 2012 11:36 AM

                                          Czerw's.

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                                            tzanghi Jul 25, 2012 07:28 PM

                                            Zimmerman already did that though. Not that I disagree with the choice.

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                                              Mawrter Aug 11, 2012 10:30 PM

                                              +1!

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                                              Buckethead Jul 25, 2012 06:31 PM

                                              I saw that he was at Stateside this evening, that's a definite improvement!

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                                                Philly Ray Jul 25, 2012 08:59 PM

                                                Where did you hear that he was at Stateside? I saw on Twitter that after Pho 75 this morning, he was at Han Dynasty for lunch, Ken's Cafe, and then Zahav.

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                                                  Hungryin theBurbs Jul 26, 2012 04:15 AM

                                                  Several people tweeted pictures of him at Stateside. My friend was eating at Zahav and saw him there. Later he tweeted that he was at Pen &Pencil with Vetri and Solomonoff.

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                                                    barryg Jul 26, 2012 05:18 AM

                                                    There were a lot of pictures of Bordain on Stateside's Facebook feed.

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                                                      lawgirl3278 Jul 26, 2012 07:03 AM

                                                      He was at Stateside?! Dammit! That's so close to my house.

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                                                Bacchus101 Jul 30, 2012 06:01 AM

                                                cwd

                                                A belated, Quite right!

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                                                  littlecmad Aug 9, 2012 07:46 AM

                                                  I don't like Chowhound's disregard for other topics related to food. I agree with you cwdonald, if it is relevant then the posts should NOT be removed. Think about it, when you are traveling, you want to know about the food and the sights. They are all relative and pertain to each other ALL the time.

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                                        barryg Jul 24, 2012 06:49 AM

                                        Apparently he is here right now: http://philly.eater.com/archives/2012...

                                        1. phillybakingqueen Jul 23, 2012 06:35 PM

                                          It's about effing time, Tony!

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                                            knappy123 Jul 23, 2012 07:57 PM

                                            On business, I ate at Publican last week in Chicago & Bourdain was there shooting an episode. We had quite the yummy meal & beers during our visit: http://thepublicanrestaurant.com/

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