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Best Mediterranean/Middle East in the Valley (Encino, Tarzana, Sherman Oaks)

Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 10:14 AM

I am taking a friend to dinner and he requested mediteranean food, which I interpret to be middle eastern. Usually, I go to Alcazar for mezze, but I generally don't like their entrees and think my friend will probably want kebabs or chicken.

I want a decent sit-down place so a Zankou isn't an option. I know about Itzik Hagadol and Hummos Bar, but have never gone to either. And I pass Sadaf's big sign about "juicy chicken" all the time

So what would be the best options?

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    ns1 RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 10:25 AM

    Joe's falafel for lafa sandwiches
    Hayat's Kitchen for middle eastern feasting (kebabs, falafel, veggie plates, etc. it's all good here)

    This is my conclusion based on the following places: zankou / hayats / knight / skafs / joes

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      trojans RE: ns1 Jul 12, 2012 10:30 AM

      Sadaf Restaurant in Encino is the best Persian restaurant in the valley.

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        GK in SO RE: ns1 Jul 12, 2012 01:18 PM

        Second the recommendation for Joe's.

        As a matter of fact, I just had lunch there. You can't go wrong with either the falafel or chicken schwarma lafa sandwiches.

        The schwarma is delicious, however, best to get it early in the day when it's still freshly cooked on the spit and moist....had it for dinner once, and it was pretty dried out.

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          ns1 RE: GK in SO Jul 12, 2012 01:26 PM

          +1 chicken shwarma sandwich
          -1 beef kefta sandwich

          If you like spice you MUST get the hot sauce @ Joe's.

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            Jwsel RE: ns1 Jul 12, 2012 02:26 PM

            I appreciate the response, but I have to say that it is rather frustrating that you missed two key points from my original post. I asked for a place in Encino, Tarzana, or Sherman Oaks. Joe's is in Studio City, east of Lankershim. That's a good hour of driving back-and-forth in evening traffic. Second, maybe our ideas of a "decent sit-down place" are different, but ordering at a counter and getting your food served on plastic plates or in baskes doesn't seem to fit my idea. That's pretty much what I would get at Zankou, and Joe's sure doesn't look much different in the pictures I've seen.

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              thebigjelly RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 03:12 PM

              So you should have titled your post "Best Mediterranean/Middle East in Encino Tarzana Sherman Oaks ONLY"

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                archer RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 04:08 PM

                Highly recommend Hummus Bar & Grill in Tarzana. Not elegant at all, but a pleasant, casual sit-down place. Excellent (Israeli) food. Good kebobs, wonderful flat bread served straight from oven and the best (for me) is their array of combo salads.
                Also agree strongly w/ Carnival recommendation . Excellent kabobs & I particularly love their grilled quail. Carnival's a very casual space, rather brightly lit, but it is sit-down and excellent food. It's on Woodman just north of Ventura Blvd.

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                  ns1 RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 04:27 PM

                  The first part of your post said "valley", and I consider both NoHo and Studio City to be part of the valley.

                  Yes I think Joe's is a decent sit down place when compared to say, Tommy's. It's clean they're nice and they bring the food out to you.

                  Sorry we have different definitions of "decent"

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                    Helper Monkey RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 09:33 PM

                    "I appreciate the response, but I have to say that it is rather frustrating that you missed two key points from my original post.". Ha! Quite a grumpy request for help!!

                    Carnival is the answer to your question.

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                    kevin RE: ns1 Jul 12, 2012 04:04 PM

                    is the red sauce the shukh (sp?) or you talking about amba (the spicey manago sauce) or is he carrying both sauces?

                    also, do he serve gyro too ???? besides shwarma.

                    anyone have any clue if it's a lebanese, israeli, etc joint ???

                    I'm trying to figure out which places would serve that mango sauce.

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                      ns1 RE: kevin Jul 12, 2012 04:28 PM

                      I have no idea what the sauce is, I just ask for hot sauce. Definitely does not taste like any mango in there.

                      Yes they sell gyro but it sucks. The bread is awesome but the meat is terrible (imho). I'd get 10 chicken shwarmas before I got another gyro.

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                        kevin RE: ns1 Jul 12, 2012 05:02 PM

                        shoot, the gyyro sucks , like the pre-packaged boxed up Cones imported from chi-twon

                        like this seen here:


                  3. re: GK in SO
                    kevin RE: GK in SO Jul 12, 2012 04:01 PM

                    do they only have shwarma??? or do they carry beef/lamb gyros too? or do they refer to their shwarma as gyro ???

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                      ns1 RE: kevin Jul 12, 2012 04:29 PM

                      the shwarma is not the same as the gyro.

                2. Bob Brooks RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 10:40 AM

                  Both Itzik Hagadol and Hummos Bar are excellent at what they do.

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                    Ogawak RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 02:51 PM

                    I've only been to the one in Westwood, but there is a Shamshiri in Northridge; The Westwood one is great.

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                      foodnmusic RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 03:57 PM

                      The answer to your question is Carnival in Sherman Oaks. Excellent Lebanese.

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                        carter RE: foodnmusic Jul 12, 2012 10:07 PM

                        No one has mentioned Simon's Cafe on Sepulveda, just south of the S/O Galleria, which is better than all those mentioned. But Carnival is good, yet only about one step above fast food in ambiance.

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                          kevin RE: carter Jul 12, 2012 10:30 PM

                          Simon's Cafe is brilliant, he's a great chef and warm presence too. Makes everything himself as well as the desserts.

                          I always wonder why he's not more popular.

                          That reminds me that I'm seriously overdue on a visit there too.

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                            archer RE: kevin Jul 13, 2012 12:54 AM

                            I completely forgot about Simon's. Great recommendation! And also a good reminder that it's also time for me to make a return visit there.

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                              carter RE: kevin Jul 13, 2012 08:57 AM

                              May be we should have a chow function there!!!

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                                kevin RE: carter Jul 13, 2012 09:00 AM

                                wow, a chow function, set it up carter.

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                                  carter RE: kevin Jul 13, 2012 09:04 PM

                                  If anyone has an interest in sharing the dining experience that is Simon's Cafe, so state asap.
                                  We can surely set something up, board mods willing!!!

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                                    The Chowhound Team RE: carter Jul 13, 2012 10:41 PM

                                    Here is how to go about setting this up:

                                    Hounds on many different boards have organized dinners and other gatherings and they're always a lot of fun--plus the reports after are great chow tips!

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                                      kevin RE: The Chowhound Team Jul 14, 2012 10:12 PM

                                      sounds like a plan, though these rules and regulations sound quite difficult for me at the present time, if anyone is up to the challenge of setting it up, please do fall the houndly rules.

                                      and simon's is great, because it's also like it a home cooked meal by a very good chef.

                                      not i'm getting hungry again.

                                      1. re: kevin
                                        carter RE: kevin Jul 15, 2012 03:12 PM

                                        Oy and vey!
                                        I'm no more interested than you are. I would like it to be like a Wednesday night around 7pm, maybe the 25th of July. I am already busy on the 18th.
                                        Tuesday could work though.
                                        Not Friday-Sunday, period.

                          2. re: foodnmusic
                            prawn RE: foodnmusic Jul 15, 2012 06:15 PM

                            Agreed on the Carnival rec, terrific food and generous (!) portion sizes. Our nieces & nephews devour their meals there and they are are incredibly picky eaters.

                          3. Ciao Bob RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 04:28 PM


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                              ns1 RE: Ciao Bob Jul 12, 2012 04:30 PM

                              I did hayats / knight / skafs / joes over the course of 5 days and Skafs fell to the bottom of the list. They used to be my favorite.

                              YMMV. This was @ the NoHo location.

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                                Ciao Bob RE: ns1 Jul 12, 2012 04:59 PM

                                Sorry to hear that. I cannot comment since I have never tried any of the others.

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                                  kevin RE: ns1 Jul 12, 2012 05:03 PM

                                  i really like Pita Pocket, near CSUN on Reseda Blvd, I'm seriously overdue on a visit, and they've been doing the laffa thing for a few years, and I have to say that I do really like their lamb/beef gyro mixture.

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                                jotfoodie RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 06:59 PM

                                Darband Restaurant

                                19337 Ventura Blvd
                                Tarzana, CA 91356

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                                  chewbacca RE: jotfoodie Jul 13, 2012 08:20 AM

                                  2nd Darband. Live entertainment on the weekend. Excellent Persian food.

                                2. westsidegal RE: Jwsel Jul 12, 2012 07:06 PM

                                  since the valley is not my beat, this is not really a direct answer to your question, but:

                                  the only restaurant in the valley that i like enough to induce me to make the drive from playa del rey is Itzik Hagadol.
                                  their menu arrangement is somewhat awkward primarily because of the salad situation, but i like their food, i like the quality and portion size of their meats/poultry/fish, i like that they have big comfortable, high-backed leather chairs, i just like the place enough to overlook the confusing menu.

                                  the salad situation:
                                  this is an israeli restaurant, they offer an "array of salads" that you may order with your entree. the "array" is served as a number (about 10 or so) of small plates of various types of salad. if your party orders the "bottomless" version, once your party finishes the contents of a small plate, upon request, they will refill it for you for free. (the exception iirc, is the cucumber salad).
                                  if one person at the table wants the "bottomless" array, everybody needs to order "bottomless" too so as to prevent one person ordering and the whole table eating.
                                  they will let you order a non-refillable array too.

                                  n.b. one of the reasons i love their salad array is that i love well-prepared eggplant, and the array contains at least 5 solid versions of eggplant salad.
                                  their falafal and hummos are good too, but, truly, i don't need to drive to the valley to get that.
                                  i DO need to drive to the valley to get their many terrific eggplant dishes.

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                                    kevin RE: westsidegal Jul 12, 2012 07:53 PM

                                    wow, good eggplant dishes, im' so down,

                                    i presume you can just order the salad array and have that as the meal with some pita on the side, right ?

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                                      westsidegal RE: kevin Jul 12, 2012 09:36 PM

                                      yes you may, but if you are interested in "gaming the system" the best bet is to order an entree WITH the salad array and then take the entree portion home while eating all of the salad array at the restaurant.
                                      the price of the salad array decreases when you order an entree in addition.

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                                        kevin RE: westsidegal Jul 12, 2012 10:31 PM

                                        but are the entrees even worth ordering in and of themselves ?

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                                          lrhr RE: kevin Jul 13, 2012 09:24 AM

                                          My family seem to like the meat entrees. I have only tried the salmon (and then only the next day at home) and it's pretty good. Presumably, it's better right then and there, but I am too busy eating the salads (amazing how 'salad' can fill you to bursting when there are 15-20 on the table to eat). And when you factor in that the price difference between getting salads alone and salads plus a full meal for the next day is 3-6 bucks...it's quite a good deal.

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                                            westsidegal RE: kevin Jul 13, 2012 01:26 PM

                                            yes they are.

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