kosher old fashioned chicken soup

[jpr54_1]

I am a senior citizen
as a child my mother(let her rest in peace)made chicken soup with lots of giblets
and eggs from the chicken.

why don't chickens come with them anymore?-my mom always bought kosher chickens

[jpr54_1]

from the butcher giblets never came in plastic bags

we sometimes went to Bathgate Avenue Market(South Bronx) for fresh killed

circa 1950's-'60's

[bagelman01]

I also grew up with fresh killed kosher poultry and giblets that could be used. It was highly unusual for a kosher butcher to kasher meat except for hamburger, it was almost always kashered at home until the early 70s. Local kosher slaughtering was the rule, not the massive factory operations we have today.
I grew up in a city 70 miles from NY with 25,000 Jews and 12 Kosher butchers. Today there are still 25K Jews in the city and its suburbs, but only one kosher butcher, no kosher bakeries, BUT you can buy packaged kosher meat and poultry at Stop and Shop, Shop-Rite, Trader Joes, etc. and many local supermarket branches have in store bakeries under kosher supervision.

But I couldn't buy a piece of non-kashered meat if I tried. and forget about custom cuts, nothing comes in on the hoof, just boxed beef and already dressed and packaged poultry.

[algct]

There used to be a Kosher butcher on Westchester Ave near Manor Ave in the Bronx in which you can choose your bird - feathered and intact of course. The butcher then gutted & plucked her.

I still remember the smells of the searing of the pin feathers & the entrails.

We never had a "chilled" chicken until the butcher shops closed up & had to get supermarket birds.

Made the best chicken soup because the ovaries & feet were included in the pot. I'd kill my own chicken to get a chance to eat like that again, but I'd leave it to a professional.

Legion Ave in New Haven had it's own live poultry market; Kosher, since I watched the birds being dispatched by the butcher. But, that was before Rt 34 extension effectively split the city in half, destroyed neighborhoods - all in the name of 4-wheeled progress.

I guess the nearest live poultry market in CT is in Bridgeport - the Hispanic community supports at least one local market.

[bagelman01]

I have bought live poultry at that market in Bridgeport and a visiting frien, who is a shochet, took care of he inspection and slaughter. Gave my kids a lesson in cleaning and kashering. My eldest went vegetarian for about 5 months afterwards.

I grew up in New Haven, and until the mid 1960s my mother would buy live poultry at the market on Legion Avenue and then walk next door to the shochet, who'd both slaughter and dress the bird. From 1965 to 1985, we'd get a call every Tuesdauy night from 'chickenman' who'd take ourt order and fresh killed and dressed poultry would be delivered Thursday night, along with all the giblets, feet and the shell-less eggs for making soup. It was only after his retirement that we bought packaged kosher poultry in the supermarkets. What a letdown in quality.

[zsero]

They don't come with eggs any more because they're slaughtered when they're young and tender, not like the old boiler hens that were slaughtered in the old days. And I think they take the giblets out to sell them separately.

[bagelman01]

funny anecdote...................
Soon after I married my first wife, I went into the kitchen and saw her frying some chicken livers in the frying pan. We were newly married, and she moved into my existing home which had a fully equipped kitchen. I, however did not have a chometzdicke broiler for liver, as I only made it on Pesach.
I said to my ex, what did you broil the livers in before they went into the frying pan? Her reply: "why do I have to broil them? The outer wrapper on the chicken (Falls) says it's already been soakjed and salted."
Needless to say, I tossed the liver and the pan, explained about the rules of liver to my ex and from then on she only cooked milchiges in our home.

It's a lot safer not to include that little bag of liver inside the bird, but I do miss the necks and pupicks.

[queenscook]

So she didn't have the ability to learn from a mistake, and from then on was only allowed to make milchigs? Wow.

[DeisCane]

What queens said.

[bagelman01]

again, her decision, not my pronouncement

[bagelman01]

Her choice, not my edict..............................

[tzurriz]

Why did you toss the pan? You could have rekashered it.

[bagelman01]

NO, it was teflon coated.

[SoCal Mother]

Too many people like me shoved frozen chickens into the oven and several hours later took out trefe chicken a la melted plastic. (Of course we first noticed it at the dinner table on Shabbat when we were going for second helpings.)

I love liver but I always ended up throwing the little bags away because once they defrosted I didn't want to be forced to deal with them right away and truthfully I am not sure I do it correctly.

Now I buy the pre-broiled liver packages and I am happy that my chicken comes liver and plastic-free.