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Food Network Star: "Deliciously Unpredictable Demos" (7/8/2012) [*SPOILERS*]

ipsedixit Jul 8, 2012 08:39 PM

Adios Martita.

Live demos with rigged "things that could go wrong" (who else sees the irony in that?)

Justin gets heckled.

Yvan loses his voice.

Michele gets time warped.

Oranges ultimately does in Martita.

Onto next week!

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    sandylc RE: ipsedixit Jul 8, 2012 09:04 PM

    Is anyone else tired of:

    POV

    Your story

    signature dish

    energy

    ?

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      DiningDiva RE: sandylc Jul 8, 2012 09:31 PM

      Yes

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        rasputina RE: sandylc Jul 9, 2012 06:44 AM

        absolutely

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          wincountrygirl RE: sandylc Jul 9, 2012 05:59 PM

          YES!

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            libgirl2 RE: sandylc Jul 10, 2012 11:51 AM

            A million times!!!
            I want a chef with no POV, no story, no signature dish and absolutely no energy!

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              sandylc RE: libgirl2 Jul 10, 2012 12:08 PM

              "I want a chef with no POV, no story, no signature dish and absolutely no energy!"

              YES!!! And I even want them to screw up their lines and even their recipes once in a while...We want real people with genuine personalities who REALLY know their food and refuse to make repeated versions of the flavor-of-the-week trendy recipe/food. FN, are you listening?

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                chicgail RE: sandylc Jul 10, 2012 01:34 PM

                You want Julia Child! Me too.

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                  libgirl2 RE: chicgail Jul 10, 2012 02:33 PM

                  She was so much fun to watch! Things went wrong and she just laughed. Sure she had POV and some interesting stories, but her show had humor not sleek production. She didn't have to recount something "painful" from her past or let us know her "connection" to a dish, besides she ate it an liked it.

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                sandylc RE: libgirl2 Jul 10, 2012 12:09 PM

                Kitschy, overproduced, overscripted crap, GO AWAY!

            2. Joanie RE: ipsedixit Jul 9, 2012 04:28 AM

              I was surprised Nicki was safe so quickly but I guess they had to whittle down Giada's team. I hated G's stupid cheering after Yvan's presentation.

              Justin was super quick with the "heckler" but did get a little testy.

              The more I see of Michele, the less I like her but I thought her contrived glitch was really unfair. The others were things that really could go wrong whereas you assume that the person working with you isn't going to be throwing up 10 million random times left for your spiel.

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                coney with everything RE: Joanie Jul 9, 2012 05:08 AM

                " I hated G's stupid cheering after Yvan's presentation."

                SO agree. I get positively homicidal when I see her 64-tooth grin and maniacal cheering.

                It was so obviously telegraphed that someone from Giada's team would be leaving, they should be paying royalties to Western Union.

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                  RUK RE: coney with everything Jul 9, 2012 05:16 AM

                  Oh YES!!

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                    sandylc RE: coney with everything Jul 9, 2012 08:22 AM

                    Agree! And does anyone else think that the judges must have seen something different than we did? Their comments about performances rarely make sense.

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                      wincountrygirl RE: coney with everything Jul 9, 2012 06:00 PM

                      +1

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                      wincountrygirl RE: Joanie Jul 10, 2012 03:44 AM

                      Not only her cheering but her sulking when Martita lost too. The only person whose show I'd watch is Justin.....

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                        chicgail RE: wincountrygirl Jul 10, 2012 01:37 PM

                        I wonder if Alton, Bobby or Giada get something if one of their proteges win. Anyone know?

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                          ennuisans RE: chicgail Jul 10, 2012 02:02 PM

                          They get producer credit on whatever show results.

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                            chicgail RE: ennuisans Jul 10, 2012 04:04 PM

                            I assume that there is a check that accompanies the credit.

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                        DGresh RE: Joanie Jul 14, 2012 04:00 AM

                        Agree with both your points. Thought that Giada's cheering was entirely inappropriate, and thought that Michelle's glitch was totally unfair. What is she supposed to do with wildly incorrect timings? That's a case where you shouldn't really try to "cover it up"; you should call out to the producer to get a new tech guy over there!

                      3. RUK RE: ipsedixit Jul 9, 2012 05:11 AM

                        Isn't there a disconnect between the ease of speaking to the camera as "talking heads" and so many times "stumbling" in front of the camera - prime example Martita. This show is evenly and well scripted.
                        And yes, why do they think we are interested in their silly stories about their Grandmas, huge smiles ( shudder) etc.

                        1. C. Hamster RE: ipsedixit Jul 9, 2012 07:03 AM

                          I'm actually liking Marty more and more, though I doubt I'd watch her show.

                          I doubt I'd watch any of their shows. Maybe Justin's.

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                            sandylc RE: C. Hamster Jul 9, 2012 08:24 AM

                            Justin's food seems mildly interesting - if allowed, he could do some interesting stuff.

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                              pdxgastro RE: C. Hamster Jul 9, 2012 11:33 PM

                              Exactly. As Bob said, you'd watch Justin to see what he does next.

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                                Janet from Richmond RE: C. Hamster Jul 10, 2012 05:50 AM

                                I've never been a Marty fan but liked her this week.

                              2. chowser RE: ipsedixit Jul 9, 2012 03:35 PM

                                When did they start getting so hung up about personal stories? Why would it matter to viewers what Martitia's father did or that she gets together w/ girl friends? I don't remember their hammering in personal stories so much in the first seasons. Martita's presentation about the orange was much more about the food and what to do with it than a story about stealing tangerines. This is FOOD network, not Lifetime.

                                And, warning that something could/would go wrong should have made them more prepared to joke their way through. Once people started heckling, leaving, that's a good sign that it was set up--go with it.

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                                  DiningDiva RE: chowser Jul 9, 2012 05:04 PM

                                  The story thing started 4 or 5 years ago. If you watch the non-competition FTV shows these days all the hosts are telling stories. I think they're trying to have their hosts make a personal connection with the view and be all folksy and chatty and not be a talking head. Personally, I associate food with cooking and eating, not with story telling. The problem with the stories we get from these contestants is that they're all so contrived and disingenuous that they come off as phony and hollow. They don't believe them any more than we do. They're jumping through as many hoops as the FTV puts up there in hopes of winning a show.

                                  Julia Child established a great personal connection with most of her audience and included chatty and witty comments, remarks and little stories, but that wasn't the focus of what she did. It was just kind of a natural by-product of Julia being Julia. Martin Yan and Jaques Pepin also told little stories too, just enough to get you interested in what they were actually cooking, novel concept cooking on a cooking show. They also had something this crop of wannabes lacks...that would be personality.

                                  This is the worst batch of "talent" I think they've come up with so far. None of them are compelling or interesting. Alton looks old and tired, Bobby just looks exasperated and bored and Giada just looks like teeth and hair. I wish there were better choices a 9 pm on Sunday.

                                  I hate to sound so cranky but I've about had it with this show. The game, not to mention the schtick, is old, tired and needs to be retired, not retreaded as it was this year.

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                                    Shrinkrap RE: DiningDiva Jul 9, 2012 05:53 PM

                                    It did not help that Giada had a shampoo commercial or something running. But I am all for rising above the bashing.

                                    I still like Justin, and still hope Alton can see what will work for ME, and still get HIM paid.

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                                      huiray RE: DiningDiva Jul 10, 2012 04:42 AM

                                      "I wish there were better choices a 9 pm on Sunday."
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                                      There is. True Blood on HBO, for one. :-)

                                      But with regards to this intense seeking for "stories" and "life experiences", preferably tear-jerkers; or heart-rending and sob-sob stories of how you surmounted all those incredible travails of life or being abandoned as a child etc etc (never mind stealing tangerines) that Medusa and Kermit seem to hunger for - I totally agree with you (and chowser and sandylc and RUK above) that it is really, really NOT something I have much interest in, if any at all. Get with the COOKING and teaching - but as has been said so many times now, that seems to be the least of concerns for FN and Medusa and Kermit.

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                                        Joanie RE: huiray Jul 10, 2012 05:40 AM

                                        Also Falling Skies on TNT is on at 9 but I DVR the 11PM episode. Not a science fiction gal at all but enjoy this show, maybe it's my fondness for Noah Wylie and ER.

                                        In any case, yeah harping on the stories they're supposed to tell gets tiresome. These things would come naturally with a show, sometimes you just have to cook the food and tell them how it's done.

                                        And why does Alton seem so pissed all the time?

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                                          sandylc RE: Joanie Jul 10, 2012 10:14 AM

                                          He's an angry guy in general. The rest of us keep failing to live up to his expectations. It's why I get a thrill out of it when I catch him in a mistake. I still treasure the moments when Mario Batali would correct Alton on Iron Chef. I was at an Alton book signing once (not on purpose, just happened upon it), and he was a crabby jerk to his audience. You know, the people who came to see him and buy his book.........

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                                            2roadsdiverge RE: sandylc Jul 12, 2012 12:30 PM

                                            I've heard over and over that Alton brown really isn't a nice guy. It's one reason that -- while I respect him and enjoy learning from him -- I would never want to meet him. Even on FNS I see flashes of his jerkitude and it snaps me out of the show.

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                                          wincountrygirl RE: huiray Jul 10, 2012 05:47 AM

                                          I would think shows on the FOOD network should be about food. If I want life stories, there is the biography channel.

                                    2. paulj RE: ipsedixit Jul 10, 2012 01:12 PM

                                      There's a surprising lot of interest in a show that no one likes.

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                                        huiray RE: paulj Jul 10, 2012 01:22 PM

                                        Morbid interest. Rubbernecking to see the latest car crash. That sort of thing.

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                                          BubblyOne RE: paulj Jul 10, 2012 02:38 PM

                                          FN competition shows like this always do well in the ratings- it's the resulting product that usually sucks. I'm hoping Justin wins. Whatever he makes wouldn't be the 350th rendition of something I've been cooking since my teens.

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                                            ennuisans RE: BubblyOne Jul 10, 2012 02:50 PM

                                            I'd bet that even if he doesn't go all the way Justin will get a show if he wants it, and can't really say that about anyone else. And if he gets a show without winning, I'd bet that a woman would win FNS, and I'd bet that would mean Nikki. In all fairness she's pulled herself together a whole bunch in the last couple of weeks.

                                            Sure hope all that betting is legal in my jurisdiction.

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                                              BubblyOne RE: ennuisans Jul 10, 2012 04:24 PM

                                              The thing about Nikki is that she's been at 1% for weeks in the FN fan vote. She'd have to do something outrageous to get any support at this point. Edited to add I just looked and Martie is in 2nd place behind Justin.

                                              Agree about Justin. I just hope they give him a cooking show and not some other stupid FN riff.

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                                                DiningDiva RE: BubblyOne Jul 10, 2012 04:46 PM

                                                Martie has done herself a lot of favors over the last 2 epsiodes, so has Yvan. In some respects I think she should have won the challenge this past Sunday, I thought she did better than Yvan.

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                                                  BubblyOne RE: DiningDiva Jul 10, 2012 05:05 PM

                                                  Martie is absolutely perfect for FN. Another show I would never watch.

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                                                  ennuisans RE: BubblyOne Jul 10, 2012 09:38 PM

                                                  Totally forgot about the viewer vote determining the winner. All bets are off. :p

                                                  If Justin gets a cooking show I hope it's as idiosyncratic as he is. Not just a show about how to make oyster foam on the half shell, but that really gets into his mental process behind breaking ingredients down and remixing them.

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                                              DiningDiva RE: paulj Jul 10, 2012 03:08 PM

                                              Of course there is. We may not particularly care for the show but we do like to b*tch about it

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                                                smartie RE: DiningDiva Jul 10, 2012 04:33 PM

                                                ha aint that the truth!

                                                not sure this mentoring thing has really worked, Bobby Flay seems totally disinterested.

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                                                  rasputina RE: smartie Jul 10, 2012 05:31 PM

                                                  Probably because he knows his group sucks.

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                                                    ennuisans RE: smartie Jul 10, 2012 09:41 PM

                                                    Really, I think he's just a cardboard cutout. I've got all three followed on Twitter and I don't think Flay has ever ever commented about the show, as opposed to Alton and Giada. But then Flay has never struck me as a people person.

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                                                  ipsedixit RE: paulj Jul 10, 2012 09:03 PM

                                                  I enjoy the show.

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                                                    paulj RE: ipsedixit Jul 10, 2012 10:00 PM

                                                    Here's last Sunday's ratings
                                                    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012...
                                                    It's much higher than other FN items like ICA and DDD. I don't the channels that rated higher.

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                                                      sandylc RE: paulj Jul 11, 2012 12:44 PM

                                                      Wow, no wonder it's hard to find anything good when I want to watch TV!!!! That list of shows has pretty much nothing good on it.....

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                                                      James Cristinian RE: ipsedixit Jul 11, 2012 05:57 PM

                                                      ipsedixit, you enjoy the show, really? Oh wait, so do the wife and I. We dvr it and enjoy it during the week at our leisure.

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                                                        ipsedixit RE: James Cristinian Jul 11, 2012 09:14 PM

                                                        I don't see what's wrong with saying you like a Food Network Star, or any other FN show.

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                                                          jmckee RE: ipsedixit Jul 12, 2012 09:46 AM

                                                          Oh, but haven't you heard? It means you know NOTHING about food and care NOTHING about cooking :-)

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                                                            ipsedixit RE: jmckee Jul 12, 2012 10:26 AM

                                                            And that is wrong ... how?

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                                                              paulj RE: ipsedixit Jul 12, 2012 11:44 AM

                                                              Because it's the 'lowest common denominator' or some thing like that. :) Though I've had trouble getting a clarification of that term from people who use it to describe FN programming.

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                                                                sandylc RE: paulj Jul 12, 2012 08:39 PM

                                                                Just for fun:

                                                                From the free dictionary: Lowest common denominator - The most basic, least sophisticated level of taste, sensibility, or opinion among a group of people.

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                                                      2roadsdiverge RE: paulj Jul 12, 2012 12:32 PM

                                                      Andy Denhart over at RealityBlurred considers Food Network Star to be the show with the greatest makeover in reality TV. he lists some of the many things the show gets right

                                                      http://www.realityblurred.com/reality...

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                                                        BubblyOne RE: 2roadsdiverge Jul 12, 2012 10:10 PM

                                                        Too bad he doesn't know this is season 8.

                                                    4. cellophane_star RE: ipsedixit Jul 12, 2012 08:06 PM

                                                      I do not get Ippy... At all.

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