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Jul 4, 2012 12:25 PM

Speed's Hotdog (Now Boston Super Dog) at Charlestown Navy Yard this week

Last year I finally decided to make a pilgrimage from Cambridge to Newmarket Square to visit Speed's hotdogs, only to find it closed on Mondays. Ugh. THIS time (Tuesday July 3rd), I checked their website first. Phew!, because they were at Charlestown Navy Yard that day, with plans to be there for the week. So, I got to try their awesome dog AND check out the park a bit and see some tall ships and aircraft carriers from afar.

I got there at prime time 12:30, and found no line, fast service. I got a dog loaded and enjoyed it on one of the many benches and shady grassy spots available. Totally worth the trip. This IS a yummy hotdog. The owner said business had been slow (all those tourists just aren't in the know!), so check their website to confirm location, but this is a great time to make a trip to Boston Super Dog.

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  1. Maybe if he hadn't changed his name to something stupid, people would be able to find him easier and his business wouldn't be as slow.

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    1. re: jgg13

      The bigger problem is probably the shifting venue. He's not where people have come to know him in Newmarket Sq. The last 3-4 times I've been there on a weekday, no Speeds. Gets to the point that I have stopped going. He also has a slot in the City of Boston Food Truck schedule (Liberty Square) and I have yet to see him actually show up.

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      1. Let me see if I have this straight:

        The Original Speed Dog is in Newmarket Sq, manned by Ezra (?) aka Speed.

        Boston Super Dog is currently at the Brockton Fair and is manned by Greg. Boston Super Dog's CH handle is "thebostonspeeddog."

        Is that correct?

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        1. re: beetlebug

          No Greg and the super dog is separate from speed. Ezra is back in control of the speed wagon currently at the Brockton fair but will return to new market soon and all will be right with the speed dog world. And again I'm sorry for all the confusion

          1. re: thebostonspeeddog

            I wonder whether a few more stools / folding tables onsite where people can sit to eat might draw in more business...just a thought

            1. re: thebostonspeeddog

              Sorry, I'm still confused.

              Let's try this again.

              The Original Speed Dog is at the Brockton Fair and will be back at Newmarket Sq, manned by Ezra (?) aka Speed.

              Greg and Boston Super Dog are in a separate truck, elsewhere.

              And, the CH handle of the "bostonspeeddog" is someone affiliated with the original Boston Speed Dog and Ezra?

              1. re: beetlebug

                It is all so vague. Ezra took Greg under his wing and trained him to take over the business and then retired? Then with the new food truck Greg decided to keep the hot dog but change the brand? Are Ezra and Greg mortal enemies now? Seems Ezra helped that guy out a lot. It would be nice to know the truth behind the two trucks.

                1. re: Bellachefa

                  Ezra and Greg have no feud. Greg was in charge of the truck until a good friend of speed could take it, which is who is running it now. Ezra is an equal partner and has given us the original recipe which hasn't been seen for years. The Original Speed Dog is back and here to stay. does that help?

                  1. re: thebostonspeeddog

                    That is good news. I've missed the original recipe and will return to try it.

                    1. re: thebostonspeeddog

                      So Greg no longer has the rights to use the original recipe? Wasn't he trained with the original recipe?

                      1. re: thebostonspeeddog

                        This is still baffling. Let me try and understand.

                        1) In the beginning was the Speed, and the Speed was with Ezra, and the Speed was Ezra.

                        2) Speed/Ezra begat Greg, and Greg begat a new recipe, and he saw that it was good, and he still called it Speed for a while, then Boston Super.

                        3) Greg was a temp. Somebody begat "a good friend of speed" (but which speed -- Ezra Speed? Old recipe Speed? New recipe Speed?), who has taken over from Greg and will go back to the old recipe. Ezra is an equal partner. Does that mean Greg is no more and Boston Super will now sell Original Speed, or does that mean Greg lives on as new-recipe Boston Super, while "good friend of speed" in an equal partnership with Ezra enters with original recipe Speed -- giving us two (non-feuding, of course) hot dogs? And will original-recipe Speed be sold as Speed?

                        1. re: FoodDabbler

                          Speed is Ezra's nickname and yes speed will sell the original recipe

                          1. re: thebostonspeeddog

                            And will speed sell original-recipe speed as "Speed", or as "Super", or as something else?

                            If the first of these, will Greg continue to sell new-recipe speed as "Super" or is he out of the dog business?

                            1. re: FoodDabbler

                              who knew hot dog politics were so complex?

                              1. re: FoodDabbler

                                The Boston Speed Dog = Ezra, aka Speed, plus the as-yet-unnamed partner who is apparently the one posting here, who will soon be selling original Speed recipe dogs in Newmarket Square

                                Boston Super Dog = Greg, who is selling the tweaked recipe he's been selling for the last few years, in various places around the city

                                1. re: Jenny Ondioline

                                  Thanks. I think I have this part sorted out now. The only remaining thing is whether Super-tweaked-Greg will coexist (or compete) with Speed-original-Ezra+partner, or if he (Greg) is out of the business.

                                  1. re: FoodDabbler

                                    No, Greg is not out of the business. He is doing his thing with his recipe in his locations.

                                  2. re: Jenny Ondioline

                                    I am not the partner but on all other accounts yes

                                    1. re: Jenny Ondioline

                                      I'm still not buying that it was:

                                      a) amicable
                                      b) planned
                                      c) the triumphant return of the original recipe that no one has ever seen since Ezra left

                                      That said I'd not know the difference on point c - I was never able to get a speed dog until Greg took over and did weekend hours. Jenny I think it was you who once described Ezra as being like the brig o' doon - never had the capability to go all the way out there w/o knowing he'd be there.

                                      Not that I care one iota except for drama reasons, but I'm crying foul. Something went down and I'd prefer to know what it was :)

                                2. re: FoodDabbler

                                  FoodDabbler, been off of Chowhound for awhile & am trying to catch up. Trying to understand what is happening in the SpeedDog world.

                                  After your post, I am:

                                  1.) more confused.


                                  2.) ROTFL!!

                                  Thank you (still laughing...)

                      2. This thread is awesome on so many levels. I especially like that no one cared that it wasn't the same dog as the original for years, just that it was a "speed" dog that warranted all the raves. :-o

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                        1. re: LStaff

                          Because it was still a damn good dog. What Greg has been doing clearly has had modifications from the original product, but it's still been by a longshot the best hot dog in town -- what, people are going to go choke down those messes that Spike's churns out? -- and even with the option of going out to Newmarket Square for the original (which at best I manage to do maybe twice a year), there's still room in my life for both.

                          1. re: Jenny Ondioline

                            Yes - I have had the original years ago and Greg's, and they seem very close. I believe the #1 ranking in the Wall Street Journal (fwiw) and the Warren Buffett story all occurred while Greg was in charge (though I may be wrong about that).

                          2. re: LStaff

                            i have posted a couple of times that I thought they were different under Greg (and not really in a better way) but it was not so much as to make me stop going there. I don't think i was alone in that assessment. I am glad to hear that the original is coming back but to be honest I'll believe it when i see it.

                            1. re: ac106

                              Then you have what is to me the most important aspect; the frank itself. Speed served Pearl. Then the new owner switched to Grote & Weigel. Who is using what?

                                1. re: hotdoglover

                                  FYI, Grote and Weigel closed but their product was picked up by another company after several months of ceased operation and is being made again. It seemed like their distribution in the area dried up a while before they closed (personal observation) and a retailer that carried a large part of their line before is now stocking Dietz and Watson in its place. So while is possible, I wouldn't count on anyone in the area selling a Grote and Weigel dog this summer, particularly a specialty item like a 1/2 lb dog.

                                  I had fairly limited experience with Greg running the Speed's truck and don't think I ever had his dog with the sauce, which others have said changed significantly. However, Greg's running of the truck seemed inconsistent -- Speed closed in the winter and did not go out depending on the weather, but overall he was consistent and "is speed out today" added a mystique to the experience. After initially trying to run it year round and answering his cell phone, the Greg Speeds truck then seemed to disappear for months on end, while mentioning new venues, and keeping few up to date. Making a good product is important and in that sense, consider this the "show me board," but I think clear communications and more consistency by the new owner will also make a difference because the food truck business has changed since Speed ran the truck.

                                  1. re: itaunas

                                    The company that bought Grote & Weigel hired back all of the employees who were laid off and contacted all of their customers in an attempt to get them back. Some returned, some didn't.

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