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I need some summer white wine recs please

I've been drinking champagne lately because I'm so bored with my usual Chardonnays. I
have only been drinking Bogle Chard lately. I would like to open up to other varietals but I like a subtle, slightly sweet or not sweet is fine, non desert wine and sparkling is okay too. I've in the past liked whites when they've been referred to as buttery. I'm pretty sure I don't like my whites too oakey either. Sorry I'm a wine amateur. I'd like to purchase a couple under $20 or $15 each. Thank you

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  1. Would you recommend a Moscato? Reislings are too sweet for me.

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    1. re: missmodular818

      There are different sweetness levels for Rieslings - from very sweet to very dry....keeping that in mind Moscato d'Asti will be just as sweet.

      These are generalizations but I hope they help:

      Rare, but I think would be great and you can find it at good wine stores- would be a majority Roussanne blend from either California or France. Rousanne tends/to be made round creamy in a similar way to Chardonnays. An example:
      http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku...

      Also rarer but good to try:
      Chenin Blanc (clean, mineral), Grenache Blanc (herbal/floral/a little soft), or Albarino (green apple high acid - kind of like pinot grigio).

      Commonly available - Try New Zealand Sauvignon Blancs such as Matua. These will be tangy and fruity - kind of like a pineapple. Examples:
      http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku...
      http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku...
      http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku...

      If it's too much of a "fruit' sensation, then try French Sancerres. Examples:
      http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku...
      http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku...
      http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku...

      If you find all of these above wines to be too "sour" or "acidic" let them age six months.

      If that still doesn't work, try experimenting with chardonnays from different parts of the world. Chardonnay is a very malleable grape - and it can be made in many different ways and styles.

      Most of all please go to a good wine store. If you are still in the 818, I would highly recommend going to K & L or a similar quality wine store (Wallys is the only other one besides K & L I'm familiar with in LA but I'm sure there are others). There are exceptions, but generally the grocery store is not your friend. Especially with certain varietals, and European wine, they will not say the type of grapes in the wine on the label - so a good wine store clerk (or a good search engine such as K & Ls) can be a great help.

      1. re: goldangl95

        Thank you. Yes, I'm still in the 818. I'll have to check out K&L. What do you think of rose? Maybe I'd like a dry rose. Any recommendations?

        1. re: missmodular818

          Roses are great food wines. They tend to be either sticky sweet, or very dry and minerally. They never have much fruit. I don't like drinking them on their own (but again great with food, they just blend and compliment almost anything).

          Bedrock's Ode to Lulu Rose is one to try. And at a good price and somewhat widely available.

          I actually like Beaujolais ( a light red served ever so slightly cool) more than Roses if I'm not doing whites for summer sipping. Two good producers are:

          Domaine du Vissoux/Pierre Marie Chermette
          Domaine des Terres Dorées

          Also a sparkling red wine like Lambrusco can be fun.

      2. re: missmodular818

        Try a drier French-style Riesling. Usually less sweet than blue bottle German ones.

        1. re: AnneMarieDear

          Most German Rieslings these days are far from sweet.

          1. re: linguafood

            And most don't come in blue bottles.

            I do think that most German Rieslings found in 'mass-market' retailers will be sweetish wines. Kabinetts likely will be green appley tart with underlying sugar, but most Qualitatsweins and QmPs of spatlese and auslese levels will be sweetish - and delicious (at least the QmPs)

            1. re: AnneMarieDear

              I'm guessing you mean Alsace Rieslings? "French-style Rieslings" is not a term familiar to me. ('course, I'm a guy who thinks of a Medoc as a Bordeaux).

              One has to be careful in buying Alsace wines and expecting them to be 'bone-dry'. That is indeed the old conventional wisdom - it simply isn't how it is in the today's marketplace.

              1. re: FrankJBN

                Yes, obviously I have much to learn about rieslings! I think generally of Alsatian rieslings as dryer than many German ones. Also, I use "French style" when thinking of rieslings made outside of the Alsace region but with similar qualities. Northwestern United States, for instance, produces some that remind me of my idea of Alsatian wines.
                Naturally there are sweet in France and dry in Germany, but my general idea of them has been as I described. Time to get with it, looks like! Thanks for the info.

                1. re: FrankJBN

                  Completely agreed. It helps to be familiar with the house style when it comes to buying Alsace.

                  If OP is considering Alsace wines, which are typically free of oak influence, the big houses such as Hugel, Trimbach, Leon Beyer, Josmeyer, Ostertag (oaked) and perhaps Schlumberger make a properly dry style.

                  The Hugel Gentil (blend of riesling, muscat, pinot blanc, etc.; 2009 or 2010 is now available) would be a great summer white under $12.

            2. Try some of the Rhone style whites like Viognier, Roussane and Marsanne blends. These are easy drinking and refreshing, great for summer light dinners or picnics. Moscato can be great, the nose will say sweet even if the wine is very dry. Dry moscatos are some of my favorite hot weather pours

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              1. re: budnball

                <<Roussanne and Marsanne blends.>>

                These are two of my favorites.

                1. re: maria lorraine

                  Here are some tasty recommendations for Thanksgiving from the San Francisco Chronicle
                  that could be drunk year-round. As mentioned, I love white Rhone wines.

                  http://www.sfgate.com/wine/wineselect...

                  2011 Qupé Santa Barbara County Marsanne ($20, 13% alcohol
                  )2011 Le P'tit Paysan L'Apiculteur Cedar Lane Vineyard Arroyo Seco Viognier ($24, 14.1%)
                  2011 Kinero Rustler James Berry Vineyard Paso Robles Roussanne ($30, 13.7 % )
                  2011 Holly's Hill El Dorado Viognier ($20, 13.7%)
                  2011 Donkey & Goat Sluice Box El Dorado White ($27, 13%)
                  2011 Tablas Creek Patelin de Tablas Blanc Paso Robles White ($20, 13.5%)

              2. Riesling, Weissburgunder, Grauburgunder, Silvaner, Vinho Verde, French Sauvignon, Verdejo, Verdicchio, Vernacchia, Vermentino, Pinot Blanc.

                Just a few of my favorite things :-)

                1. Try a Chablis - a Chardonnay as far from Bogle (which I enjoy) as you can get,

                  Staying in France, many white Bordeaux wines are in your price range and below. Generally a blend of Sauvignon Blanc and Semillion, with Muscadelle in some areas, it's hard to miss with these solid wines. Specifically look for Chateau Turcaud, formerly a perennial 'Best Buy'

                  I would have to think that only sweetish Rieslings are too sweet for you. Look for German Rieslings marked "Trocken", which means dry. IMO German Rieslings are the best representation of that grape.

                  See if you can't find a Torrontes from Argentina. These wonderfully aromatic are becoming hot in the marketplace.

                  Wines suggested elsewhere, Chenin Blanc amd Albarino are not in my experience "rare" and should be easy to find.

                  Of course you don't like wines that are "too oaky". I dare say like the rest of us, you won't like wines that or too acidic or too flabby or too cloying or too anything else. Don't let this turn you away from oaked wines.

                  As you can tell from the posts, there's no shortage of white varietals on shelves. Buy some wine and try it. It's what you have to do to find wines you like to drink.

                  1. We really like Prosecco. Also try Albornio and Vernaccia. All easy, nice whites.