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In Search of Fried Chicken

henmonster Jun 26, 2012 09:28 AM

Dear DC Chowheads:

Am I mistaken or is there a serious lack of fried chicken eateries in our region?

I know that there's legit hole-in-the-wall soul food places that you can get great take-out greens and chicken, but I want a sit-down place where I can slurp cheap beer and possibly a shot while I destroy a platter of dark meat.

I know you can go to Georgia Brown's or Eatonville and drop $20 on a platter -- but I'm hoping to find something casual with a liquor license. Does this exist? Something akin to a crab house that will give me some deliciousness in a basket and allow me to come in dude-wear?

Assistance and pointers appreciated.

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    Steve RE: henmonster Jun 26, 2012 10:06 AM

    My favorite is the smoked-then-fried chicken at Ray's East of the River. The regular fried chicken at Ray's the Third is pretty damn good.

    The only good thing at Flavors in Arlington is their Fried Chicken, but it is very good.

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      CDouglas RE: henmonster Jun 26, 2012 12:38 PM

      The Black Rooster Pub on L Street, NW between 19th and 20th serves a solid fried chicken platter with fries and slaw. It does not have a crab house vibe as it is more of an Irish/Welsh Pub.

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        agarnett100 RE: CDouglas Jun 26, 2012 12:47 PM

        Thanks CDouglas I may have to check it out

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        hamster RE: henmonster Jun 26, 2012 07:00 PM

        Possibly relevant news:

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          79pooh83 RE: henmonster Jun 26, 2012 08:27 PM

          How about Levi's Port City Cafe 8thStreet SE?

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            monkeyrotica RE: 79pooh83 Jun 28, 2012 04:55 AM

            I've found the fried chicken at Levi's to be just okay. The deepfried porkchops are the way to go, straight up or smothered. Blue & White does excellent fried chicken, but carryout only. When I get a fried chicken jones, I either head to Popeyes or any of the wings & mambo sauce bulletproof Chinese carryouts downtown. But for sitdown casual, I suggest the fried chicken at Southside 815 in Old Town.


            1. re: monkeyrotica
              drewpbalzac RE: monkeyrotica Aug 8, 2012 07:17 AM

              Where is a good wings and mambo sauce place downtown. I am between downtown and mid town and our carry outs all have wings - I haven't found any that do them the right way with fried rice and mambo (mumbo)

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                mdpilam RE: drewpbalzac Aug 8, 2012 08:49 AM

                I haven't seen any place with Mambo sauce, and only heard about it through a Post article. I think most places that have it are in SE...

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                  flavrmeistr RE: drewpbalzac Aug 8, 2012 11:47 AM

                  I didn't know DC had a "mid-town". What would that encompass?

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                    mdpilam RE: flavrmeistr Aug 8, 2012 01:40 PM

                    I didn't either until last weekend walking down 14th, I saw a bunch of people with "Mid-City Dog Days" signs. I think it's bordered by 9th and 16th Sts, and U and Rhode Island.

                    1. re: mdpilam
                      flavrmeistr RE: mdpilam Aug 8, 2012 04:07 PM

                      I suspect there's realtors behind it, trying to New Yorkify DC. This ain't no town. This is The District.

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                      drewpbalzac RE: flavrmeistr Aug 9, 2012 07:56 AM

                      Mid town is it the 19th and M St. NW section of town, which many now call "Downtown".

                      In DC "Downtown" is the area east of the White House around 9 -12th streets where they intersect is G & H streets.

                      This has nothing to do with the realtors trying to up-sell neighborhoods by giving them fake names like NoMa.

                      If you are interested in learning the actual historical names of DC neighborhoods I would try to find on older map of the city that lists neighborhood names. If can be a blast learning about great cities history through its neighborhoods. Often the only other way to learn about the old neighborhood names is to look at the names of some of the community businesses that still linger around or the playgrounds/community centers.

                      My two favorites DC neighborhood names are Turkey Thicket (which has basically been incorporated into BrookLAND), and Swampoodle (which is a part of what folks are trying to rename NoMa).

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                        monkeyrotica RE: drewpbalzac Aug 9, 2012 09:50 AM

                        Murder Bay and Vinegar Hill for me.

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                          flavrmeistr RE: drewpbalzac Aug 11, 2012 01:50 PM

                          What folks are those? Realtors?

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                            drewpbalzac RE: flavrmeistr Aug 11, 2012 02:01 PM

                            Yuppy gentrifiers.

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                              monkeyrotica RE: drewpbalzac Aug 12, 2012 05:41 AM

                              And that's the reason it's getting harder to find wings & mambo sauce & fried rice downtown. It's poor people food. Now, if some celebuchef served it on a small plate with "mambo coulis" and "risotto chinois" for $30 ($60 with wine pairing[1]" they'd have a license to print money.

                              [1] The chef recommends the 2012 Thunderbird or a 2011 Maison de Boone's Farm, a fruity little vintage with a strawberry air freshener finish and a bouquet like a hobo's sock.

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                                Terrie H. RE: monkeyrotica Aug 12, 2012 01:38 PM

                                Thanks for my grin!

                      2. re: drewpbalzac
                        monkeyrotica RE: drewpbalzac Aug 8, 2012 01:36 PM

                        Try Yums II at 14th and P NW. Tell them to fry it hard. Wings & mambo sauce are easier to find in NE or SE where bulletproof Chinese carryouts can thrive. My favorite is at Lucky Carryout near Potomac Ave Metro and Wings & More Wings in Kingman Park. Good luck!

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                          drewpbalzac RE: monkeyrotica Aug 9, 2012 08:03 AM

                          There used to be a place down on M st. SE way before the ball park that was call the Ohn Luck (my spelling is probably wrong) that had great wings with mambo. The pork chop sandwiches were great too . . .

                          We would boogey down there for carryout from the House office buildings a couple of times a month.

                          Except for the proprietors sreaming at the junkies who were harrassing the patrons while they waited for their food . . . . the place rocked.

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                            agarnett100 RE: monkeyrotica Aug 9, 2012 01:02 PM

                            Thanks monkey I forgot Mum's was still there

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                              monkeyrotica RE: agarnett100 Aug 10, 2012 04:37 AM

                              The Yums at 14th and 7 is scary bad, though. It's not even worth risking after a late night drinking binge. The 14th and P shop is the way to go. I think the original Yums is on Florida near Gallaudet, but I think that one folded.

                        2. re: monkeyrotica
                          drewpbalzac RE: monkeyrotica Aug 12, 2012 07:08 PM

                          I did Bon Chon today for the first time today.

                          It isn't the same as wings w/ fried rice and mumbo sauce with friend rice - but the wings with hot sauce are freaking awesome. Ordering wings also cuts down on the wait time if you didn't have the foresight to call ahead.

                      3. discojing RE: henmonster Jun 27, 2012 09:40 AM

                        Have you tried Bon Chon? I love their fried chicken. I've heard the Fried Chicken or Chicken and Waffles at Birch & Barley and Green Pig are both good.

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                          Guy Incognito RE: discojing Jun 27, 2012 01:36 PM

                          Bon Chon is great, but probably not the kind of chicken the OP is looking for.

                          You might not guess by the name, but I've heard that Freddy's Lobster and Clams makes really good fried chicken. Still a little on the pricey side at $16, but they have a great beer selection to wash it all down.

                          I've also heard that DC9 makes a good platter, but haven't tried it yet. The other stuff I've tried since the menu revamp have all been very good. Some pics of the fried chicken here: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/bl...

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                            Steve RE: Guy Incognito Jun 27, 2012 06:29 PM

                            At one point I *think* that Gillian Clark was making fried chicken at Freddy's - though that might be only certain nights. I do not know if that is still the case.

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                              DanielK RE: Steve Jun 28, 2012 07:07 AM

                              Chef Clark is no longer doing the Wednesday fried chicken night at Freddy's.

                              This is not a comment on the quality of the fried chicken before or after - it was great then, and it's great now. The good thing about the change is now it's on the menu full time.

                              It is $16, but that includes fries and slaw. They used to have a night when it was discounted, but I don't think that's one of their current specials.

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                                alaint1976 RE: DanielK Jun 30, 2012 09:25 PM

                                Her fried chicken was not good at Freddy's

                            2. re: Guy Incognito
                              Mister Big RE: Guy Incognito Jun 28, 2012 05:56 AM

                              I believe that Freddy's offers $5 off on fried chicken on Thursdays.

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                            hamster RE: henmonster Jun 27, 2012 06:36 PM

                            Saw another place on Scoutmob today, and apparently they have alcohol:
                            Ma-Ma's Southern Cuisine, on Georgia Ave

                            Has anyone tried it?

                            1. littlew1ng RE: henmonster Jun 28, 2012 09:40 AM

                              Just last night I had the fried chicken at William Jeffrey's on Columbia Pike, and whoo child, it was damn good. I dare say it's the best fried chicken I've had in 2012...definitely surpassed expectations. Salty, crispy outside and unbelievably moist and juicy on the inside. Very unexpected for such a nondescript spot. I got it with collared greens instead of potato salad and they, too, were excellent. Most of the other food I've had there has been decent to acceptable, so this was all surprising.

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                                Dennis S RE: littlew1ng Jun 29, 2012 06:15 AM

                                Well now I'm very upset. I used to live in the one house on Columbia Pike near there. The one across from Bob & Edith's. Don't get me wrong, it was great living there (early 2000's). Thai Square. Before B-54 had a restaurant. Now the hood has changed, and they have good fried chicken?

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                                  MikeR RE: littlew1ng Jun 29, 2012 01:30 PM

                                  Speaking of (just off) Columbia Pike, is Flavors still there and still making good fried chicken? I haven't been there in years, since I decided that grilled chicken was much better for me, but they used to do a really good Southern fried chicken.

                                2. GraydonCarter RE: henmonster Jun 28, 2012 02:50 PM

                                  You said region, not district, and cheap beer, so there's Hershey's in Washington Grove, Gaithersburg. Here's a recent review from yelp that says it all:

                                  "You come here for three reasons 1) Fried Chicken - don't bother to order anything else. The chicken's great. Everything else is pretty lackluster (at least since they dropped the crab dip from the menu). 2) Beer - draft, cheap, cold. The small pitcher is the best deal by volume. 3) Shots - once you're a regular they start coming in rocks glasses. Which may or may not be a good thing.

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                                    flavrmeistr RE: GraydonCarter Jun 29, 2012 09:28 AM

                                    Amen. The steamed shrimp is a good deal as well for about 12 bucks a pound. Drinks are cheap and generous. Hershey's is my go-to dive bar in Rockville-Gaithersburg, one of the last vestiges of a less urbanized, less sophisticated Montgomery County.

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                                      Terrie H. RE: flavrmeistr Jul 1, 2012 10:17 AM

                                      Thinking of taking an elderly aunt there for lunch on a weekday - are there waits for tables at lunch time? She can't stand long to wait. Which side dishes would you recommend?

                                      1. re: Terrie H.
                                        DanielK RE: Terrie H. Jul 1, 2012 11:38 AM

                                        They cook the chicken to order, so it's not quick.

                                        None of the sides are worth ordering. Vegetables cooked until gray, mediocre fries, salad from a bag and dressing from a bottle. You go there for the fried chicken.

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                                          Terrie H. RE: DanielK Jul 2, 2012 06:00 AM

                                          Thanks, Daniel. She can wait for the chicken, just not standing waiting for a table. Still sounds worth it for the chicken.

                                          1. re: Terrie H.
                                            DanielK RE: Terrie H. Jul 2, 2012 08:34 AM

                                            There won't be a wait for a table at any time, that I've ever seen.

                                            The fried chicken is definitely worth waiting for.

                                            1. re: DanielK
                                              flavrmeistr RE: DanielK Jul 2, 2012 09:15 AM

                                              Right. It's not really a destination restaurant. It's an old-time whistle-stop bar/chicken shack/flophouse (they rent rooms upstairs)/flea market/ice cream stand. They sell a lot of chicken to go and ice cream from a side window. It gets a little crowdy in the bar when the Redskins or Ravens are playing. That's about it.

                                  2. ipsedixit RE: henmonster Jun 29, 2012 07:11 AM

                                    I like Birch and Barley, followed closely by Bar Pilar.

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                                      hamster RE: ipsedixit Jun 29, 2012 08:20 AM

                                      What "cheap beer" are you ordering at these places?

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                                        agarnett100 RE: hamster Jun 29, 2012 10:05 AM

                                        Hamster - some people have a strange definition of cheap

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                                          ipsedixit RE: hamster Jul 2, 2012 07:45 PM

                                          The cheapest beer is the one not ordered.

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                                            flavrmeistr RE: ipsedixit Jul 3, 2012 11:34 AM

                                            The greatest thirst is the one not quenched.

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                                              drewpbalzac RE: flavrmeistr Aug 3, 2012 10:34 AM

                                              A donut without a hole is a danish . . . .

                                      2. Mister Big RE: henmonster Jul 1, 2012 07:03 AM

                                        I've yet to go there, but I've heard many raves for The Hitching Post.

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                                          monkeyrotica RE: Mister Big Jul 1, 2012 09:50 AM

                                          Hitching Post is gone. The owners have retired.

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                                            hamster RE: monkeyrotica Jul 1, 2012 10:16 AM

                                            Yeah, but apparently the new owners are still going to serve fried chicken. See my post above.

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                                              joeschmoe199 RE: hamster Jul 8, 2012 12:52 PM

                                              I believe Hitching Post is still open, and will close on 7/31. It's a legendary D.C. eatery, and I'd recommend checking it out in its final days. Note that the portions are ridiculous—I've never understood how a "half chicken" can amount to some 10 pieces of chicken.

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                                          Soup RE: henmonster Jul 1, 2012 09:53 AM

                                          Try Flavors in Arlington. Pretty good soul place. I thought chicken was ok but others rave about it. Sides are good.

                                          My favorite fried chicken
                                          3. Bon Chon
                                          2. Popeyes
                                          1. Shopper food food bar, spicy fried - Location in Lorton right off 95. (also the cheapest)

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                                            chowser RE: Soup Jul 3, 2012 05:31 PM

                                            Flavors would be my first choice. Falls Church, though, not Arlington. So much better than Oohs and Aahs. It's great when it's made to order. Bon Chon is good but different and you have to order so far in advance. This is making me think maybe I need to head to Flavors for the fourth.

                                          2. Dennis S RE: henmonster Jul 2, 2012 06:27 AM

                                            Snyder's Willow Grove used to do a good MD Fried Chicken, and they at least sell beer.

                                            1. ClevelandDave RE: henmonster Jul 11, 2012 07:42 AM

                                              Dosen't Majestic have a Sunday Fried Chicken Dinner- I don't know what it works out to per person but I've heard it is very good...

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                                                woodleyparkhound RE: ClevelandDave Jul 11, 2012 07:56 AM

                                                The Majestic has a "Nana's Sunday Dinner". The menu changes monthly. Occasionally they have fried chicken. I just checked the website; they had it in May but not this month. I went to the NSD once and wasn't impressed. I wouldn't do it again - though others have reported liking it.

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                                                hamster RE: henmonster Jul 16, 2012 08:17 PM

                                                DC9 is another option:

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                                                  Guy Incognito RE: hamster Jul 17, 2012 08:23 AM

                                                  I mentioned DC9 upthread. I think they only have a small amount of fried chicken orders a night. So you'd probably need to get there early if you want to try it.

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                                                  shake N baik RE: henmonster Aug 2, 2012 10:33 AM


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                                                    Jeremy303 RE: henmonster Aug 4, 2012 05:50 PM

                                                    Ooh's and Aah's has really good fried chicken. Best to do takeout there. Central has amazing fried chicken but it will run you around $20

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                                                      agarnett100 RE: Jeremy303 Aug 4, 2012 10:18 PM

                                                      Just hit up Popeys's chicken on Tuesday when they have the special or make it at home. $20 for fried chicken can feed a family of 5-6 easily with a side of mac and cheese and greens

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                                                      mdfoodlover RE: henmonster Aug 13, 2012 03:17 PM

                                                      tom sietsema seemed to like the chicken at a new Frederick, MD joint.


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                                                        chowser RE: mdfoodlover Aug 14, 2012 01:50 PM

                                                        Although, run by Bryan Voltaggio, a little more than just a "new Frederick, MD joint." I'd love to try the place out but I've yet to go to Volt even.

                                                      2. law_doc89 RE: henmonster Feb 17, 2013 04:25 PM

                                                        Lots of pseudo hipster style soul in town.

                                                        Henry's Soul is pretty good, with crisp, flavorful crust fried in fresh oil at a proper temperature, served with sweet potato pie made by people with sweet potato pie in their blood. U street location is contaminated by hipsters, but Oxon Hill location is the real deal.

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                                                          Steve RE: law_doc89 Feb 17, 2013 06:55 PM

                                                          There is also a location at 3rd and K Sts, NW

                                                          Sweet potato pie is excellent. This is also probably the best place to try the local specialty of wings with mumbo sauce. YMMV.

                                                          The U St location is carry-out only. There is no difference between the food here or the 3rd and K location. I have not tried Oxon Hill.

                                                          Turkey wings are probably the best thing to get here. The rest of the food is only ok.

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                                                            monkeyrotica RE: law_doc89 Feb 18, 2013 11:17 AM

                                                            Torrie's on V Street near the 930 Club used to do good chicken, but it's been years since I stopped in.

                                                            Fried chicken has never been all that good at Florida Avenue Grill.


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                                                              law_doc89 RE: monkeyrotica Feb 18, 2013 02:51 PM

                                                              I recommend everyone to a trip to Oxon Hill

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                                                                monkeyrotica RE: law_doc89 Feb 18, 2013 04:52 PM

                                                                This. Seriously. The best fried chicken (or fish for that matter) is going to be in PG County. You've got Korean run seafood joints like Mid Atlantic Seafood, older local joints like Cameron's, and other joints that can't afford downtown real estate. My latest find is a little place in Temple Hills called NY Chicken & Grill of all things. Good, cheap, and CLEAN. They have a fry cook who knows WTF they're doing and they deal in volume so it's fried fresh, hot, and hard.Outside of the bulletproof Chinese carryouts selling five wings and fries and mambo sauce for $6, you need to look for fried chicken in PG County.


                                                                1. re: monkeyrotica
                                                                  law_doc89 RE: monkeyrotica Feb 19, 2013 03:25 PM

                                                                  Have you eaten at the Carolina Kitchen? I haven't but heard good things about it. One in Hyattsville, another in Largo.

                                                                  I agree that there are certain things where PG County is da bong!

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                                                                    agarnett100 RE: law_doc89 Feb 24, 2013 10:45 AM

                                                                    I had dinner at Carolina Kitchen in Hyattsville - it was a major disappointment not worth the trip

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                                                                      law_doc89 RE: agarnett100 Feb 24, 2013 10:54 AM

                                                                      Please tell us what it was that was so disappointing.

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                                                                        agarnett100 RE: law_doc89 Feb 24, 2013 11:08 AM

                                                                        The services was okay but the food was disappointing. Carolina Kitchen bills itself a Soul Food restaurant having grown up on soul food many of the dishes lacked the bold favor and spices that are essential in Soul Food

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                                                                          law_doc89 RE: agarnett100 Feb 24, 2013 11:44 AM

                                                                          Can you be more specific please?

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                                                                            agarnett100 RE: law_doc89 Feb 24, 2013 01:19 PM

                                                                            This is what I ordered -Fried Catfish Platter with collard green and a side of mac & cheese

                                                                            The greens lacked the signature smokey favor you get with the addition of smoked turkey necks or ham hocks.
                                                                            The mac & cheese was a step above Kraft
                                                                            The catfish lacked the crispness you expect from freshly fried fish and lacked seasoning.
                                                                            Its been a while since my first and only visit so I can't get more specific.

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                                                            poncedeleroy RE: henmonster Feb 22, 2013 06:07 AM

                                                            See this post on Maryland style fried chicken at Crisfield's in Silver Spring:

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                                                              monkeyrotica RE: poncedeleroy Feb 22, 2013 09:33 AM

                                                              That post is 6 years old, but since Crisfield has been around forever, it's probably still good. I haven't been in about 20 years, but I remember it being cooked the same way my mom used to cook it: cast iron skillet filled with Crisco, buttermilk batter,  and it would take about half an hour.

                                                              Two local chains serving good fried chicken: Chicken Basket (Wheaton) and the unfortunately named  Cluck U. You can still get fried chicken livers and gizzards at the latter. If you've ever made the trip to Grace Garden, there's a Cluck U a couple doors down. There's another in Seabrook. 

                                                              Nobody's mentioned Royal Farms fried chicken, which has something of a cult following. There's a shop in College Park, but I've never been. 

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                                                                GraydonCarter RE: monkeyrotica Feb 22, 2013 11:50 AM

                                                                I first learned of Royal Farms when they had an ad on during this year's SuperBowl. People say the whole store smells like fried chicken and it is fresh because of the turnover. I looked on their website and boy they have a lot of locations in Maryland. And there is a little drumstick next to each location that serves chicken.

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                                                                  DanielK RE: GraydonCarter Feb 22, 2013 12:51 PM

                                                                  Royal Farms is originally a Baltimore chain. Been around for 50+ years. The only store in the DC area is in College Park. And it's open 24 hours...

                                                                  1. re: DanielK
                                                                    cb1 RE: DanielK Feb 23, 2013 01:21 PM

                                                                    I love Royal Farms chicken. I know its fast food chicken, but its good. Much better than any of the other fast food chicken. A 3 piece and a side of wedge fries, right out of the pressure cooker.....that's good stuff. When my daughter was younger she thought it was weird we were buying our dinner at a gas station....but she loved it.

                                                                    BTW...the is one in Crofton now.

                                                                2. re: monkeyrotica
                                                                  Mister Big RE: monkeyrotica Feb 23, 2013 02:05 PM

                                                                  Just got fried chicken from Chicken Basket after reading your post. Too salty and just not very good. I much prefer Shoppers Food Warehouse when it is fresh. I will try Cluck U at some point, but my next stop will be Royal Farms.

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                                                                    agarnett100 RE: Mister Big Feb 24, 2013 10:45 AM

                                                                    Cluck you has good wings but depending on the franhise the sandwiches and chicken can be hit or miss.

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                                                                      monkeyrotica RE: agarnett100 Feb 24, 2013 03:22 PM

                                                                      Agreed. The H Street shop was hit or miss and has since folded. The Seabrook store is solid. Have not tried the one near Grace Garden.

                                                              2. agarnett100 RE: henmonster Feb 24, 2013 10:46 AM

                                                                Some of the best fried chicken in the area can be found at the Laurel Amish Market

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                                                                  monkeyrotica RE: agarnett100 Feb 24, 2013 03:23 PM

                                                                  Which stall? I believe two sell fried chicken.

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                                                                    agarnett100 RE: monkeyrotica Feb 24, 2013 03:38 PM

                                                                    I like the one next to the restuarant and baked goods

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