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css Jun 18, 2012 06:55 AM

As a treat we are staying at the 4 seasons July 4th so will walk to the Parkway to see the fireworks. Would like a good meal before. Can get into Barbuzzo which Ive been dying to try but thinking that walking to 13th st & back with the mobs everywhere is probably not the best idea. Anything good & nearby? And I dont want to eat in the Fountain room. Thanks!

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    cwdonald Jun 18, 2012 06:59 AM

    Matyson and a.kitchen are not far. My biggest concern would be which restaurants are open.

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      css Jun 18, 2012 07:23 AM

      Ugh. both booked. Guess I should have planned earlier! Thanks

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        cwdonald Jun 18, 2012 07:25 AM

        More suggestions.. Melograno (byo italian) or Parc (french bisto). El Rey is a decent mexican restaurant not far as well. Dandelion, english pub food is also close. Also if you are using Opentable, they may not put all tables on the site, so it is sometimes worth calling the restaurant directly.

        Have a wonderful evening and enjoy the fireworks.

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          barryg Jun 18, 2012 07:36 AM

          These places aren't much closer, if at all, than Barbuzzo and the 13th St restaurant row and foot traffic may even be worse at places west of Broad St as it's a more direct path to the Parkway.

          If you really want to avoid crowds for dinner, walk to the subway and take it down to East Passyunk, maybe to Stateside, Le Virtu or Fond, and then back up to the fireworks.

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            urbanfabric Jun 18, 2012 07:38 AM

            I don't know, I think I'd avoid the subway on the way back. At least on the street you can pick an alternate pathway. In the subway, you're stuck with the masses.

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              barryg Jun 18, 2012 07:41 AM

              Yeah you're probably right about the subway. Leaving from the 4 Seasons and heading back to the parkway, there will be crowds everywhere.

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              cwdonald Jun 18, 2012 08:04 AM

              Actually they are each about half the distance... though I do not know what the crowds up towards Rittenhouse are like compared to the crowds along the parkway. Personally I avoid the city during such large events.... I still say the biggest issue is going to be booking the table.

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                urbanfabric Jun 18, 2012 08:45 AM

                Yeah, I've been to the concert/fireworks. It's a lot of people, but the concert helps to stagger the arrival times. The b*tch of it is getting out of there... even to just walk home. That's where the room at the four seasons will be clutch. You can watch from your room as people and vehicle gridlock ensues for hours. If you want to get back sooner for the fireworks, get your budino to go!

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        urbanfabric Jun 18, 2012 07:37 AM

        I'd go to Barbuzzo. The fireworks don't start until really late, you'll have to walk through the crowds to go anywhere, and at least this way you can walk down the (closed to traffic) parkway towards City Hall for half of your trip. Pre-fireworks, the crowds are concentrated between Logan Circle and the Museum (where the concert is). Google maps says it's only .7 miles walking.

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          css Jun 18, 2012 01:55 PM

          Thanks for all the great advice. Def staying off subway. Unfortunately, I messed up the Barbuzzo ( plugged in wrong date!) though I can call them. I got Parc but do you think I'd be better off going up Fairmount to Fare or something like that?

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            bluehensfan Jun 18, 2012 02:33 PM

            Just as an aside the fireworks on the 4th and associated concert are a bit of a mob scene. So much so that we viewed the fireworks from a high rise not too far away with a very good view when we were in town for them. If you are averse to crowds (and have young kids in tow) you may want to keep a bit away from the chaos.

            That being said, if you are looking for something around Fairmount, you should consider La Calaca Feliz. But anything near Rittenhouse is close (like Parc and Dandelion) and even anything in Old City is walkable or a short cab ride.

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              css Jun 19, 2012 06:59 AM

              thanks, since we live near Ft Wash we have eaten at his other location so looking for something new. No little kids but I am a bit claustrophobic and dont do great in crowds. Figured with the hotel we could just find a spot away from the mob but still in visual range. Now just need to settle on a walkable place to eat!

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                cwdonald Jun 19, 2012 08:02 AM

                There are some nice restaurants in Fairmount. My concern would be CROSSING the parkway before/during the fireworks if you want to be closer to the Four Seasons prior to the fireworks. One other direction might be towards University City. I personally like jG Domestic in the Cirra Center. I am not sure that is within walkable range... And I would worry about cabs in the mayhem that are big events.

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                  barryg Jun 19, 2012 08:31 AM

                  OP could take the trolley from 19th & Market to 30th St (runs underground). I don't think crowds will be a big issue between 19th & 30th Sts.

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