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BBQ joint to open very soon! Dinette triple crown 6704 Clark.

Has anyone else heard about this? I just stumbled on the info while searching for something else. I hope it will be as good as it sounds. I'm trying not to get my hopes too high as real BBQ and Montreal don't seem to go well together but you never know.

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If it doesn't work, you can easily find it on their facebook page.

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  1. BBQ is the new black, between Dinette Triple Crown (who thinks up names like that?), Rubs, Diablo's, Black Strap and the others that I am forgetting, Montreal's restaurant scene is quickly turning into something resembling a Houston suburb.

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    1. re: EaterBob

      Hopefully one of them will serve halfway decent good BBQ and a reasonable price.

      1. re: Evilbanana11

        Aw, that would be nice, wouldn't it? Sometimes I laud the efforts of expats or the extremely interested in replicating flavors/tastes/methods not native to their food scenes because it makes me feel a little less homesick. On the other hand, I would not expect to get a decent poutine anywhere below the Mason Dixon line, much less past the actual US/Canada border!

        1. re: Peaches to Poutine

          Looks interesting, I wish them well, but whats with the pregnant horse logo?

      2. re: EaterBob

        Hey now, EaterBob, ain't nothin' wrong with Houston 'que. Every been to The Goode Company? Today's Triple Crown lunch, packed n a picnic basket to eat in Parc Martel (s/w corner of St. Laurent and St. Zotique) made eight people who know good food, including a cook from Joe Beef, very happy. Properly fried chicken, tender pulled pork, freshly made biscuit and cornbread. No, there is not the holy grail smoker in the shed behind but someone knows his stuff.

        In the US South- where my family come from- sublime 'que is often found in places you think twice about entering. Canadians like a little more polish in their joint.

        1. re: EaterBob

          The Triple Crown is, of course, a thoroughbred racing term. Who thinks up names like that? A person who spend time at the track, maybe? Or a chef who offers three illustrious classics. The triple crown of this place is fried* chicken, brisket and pulled pork**.

          *pronounced "fraaaaahd"
          **pronounced "pawk"

          1. re: duchesse

            Duchesse, I am certain that Houston's BBQ is very good, and that their restaurant scene is top notch as well with plenty of very good restaurants. But it's Houston's, not Montreal's. In the same way that if suddenly every new restaurant in Houston was a Poutine joint, you'd start thinking that the owners were merely jumping on a bandwagon, trying to make a quick score.

            There are four restaurants here in Montreal, all opening within a month of each other, all offering BBQ. It's a trend and a bandwagon, and I'm just pointing it out.

            I'm also fully aware of the Derby, the Preakness and the Belmont Stakes - but what it has to do with anything here I don't know. There hasn't been any thoroughbred racing here since 1973.

            1. re: EaterBob

              EaterBob, IMHO you're being silly. Do you also diss new Szechuan places without trying them because this is Montreal, not Chengdu? And critique their names because their connection to the business and/or Montreal isn't immediately obvious to you?

              I don't see how a bunch of openings clustered so close together can be a bandwagon, but it's a trend and I welcome it. For years, 'hounds and others cried "why is there no good BBQ or soul food in Montreal?" I always figured it was due to a shortage of Southern expats with culinary skill and/or desire or money to go into the restaurant business. Same reason there was/is so little German food, for example. But if there are now some good Southern cooks living here, why not? It can't be that the market is saturated with all of a half-dozen places. I'm not saying all of them can be expected to be worthy of our hard-earned money, but how about we find out if there are any good ones and celebrate them, rather than virtually rolling our eyes at some supposed bandwagon?

              I have to leave the judgment of authenticity to others, but so far I'd have to say Triple Crown is a most welcome addition to the neighbourhood just based on flavour and quality. Value is pretty good, but it isn't dirt-cheap either. And it's way more welcome than a poutinerie would be -- a ridiculous concept IMO when literally thousands of places already serve poutine.

              Last visit to NYC we made a point of trying some of the city's best fried chicken. Not the world's best or America's best, but at least contender for best in a city of ~20 million with a sizeable population of Southerners. Out of a few places frequently mentioned on Chowhound and elsewhere, we settled on Charles' in Harlem. I don't know if it really is NYC's best, but it was pretty damn good. IMHO Triple Crown's fried chicken is just as good if not better, and the sides are way better. Especially enjoyed the fried sweet potatoes, buttermilk biscuit, vinegar slaw and black eyed peas.

              It's also better, across-the-board, than Bofinger ever was IMO (even in the pre-expansion days when quite a few posters here were excited about it), and it's better than Diablo's (an OK option if you happen to be in the area, and the terrasse is an asset, but on the whole take-it-or-leave-it). Haven't tried any of the others.

              1. re: Mr F

                Nicely said, Mr F!

                I had a friend from Atlanta here recently and while we made sure that he had delicious Quebec noms (the usual suspects), he and I had a long talk about how much like back home, it seems that most places here don't strive to be different (remember, I am applying the same brush to my old hometown). I welcome a change of pace in any city in which I reside, especially if the current pace becomes moribund. Whether or not these BBQ places have a long shelf life remains to be seen, but I think at least it's great there are more people hoping to replicate a flavors and foods I can't usually get. We can't all pop down South when looking for excellent barbecue, but maybe we can get close here at home.

                1. re: Peaches to Poutine

                  The Chinese food bandwagon started way before I was born, and ass far as I can tell two Schechuan restaurants in the Guy/Corncordia area don't make for a trend in my book.

                  Short answer: Yes.

                  I'm all for great food of any type. But I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Triple Crown, Rubs, Diablo's and Black Strap are closer to Bofinger than APdC in terms of quality of the food. I prefer originality and uniqueness in just about everything I do, including what and where I eat.

                  Then finally, if anyone uses the word "authentic" to describe their BBQ (or for that matter just about any other type of cuisine) I can guarantee you that they aren't..

                  Mrs. F. When you were at Triple Crown, what did you eat?

                  1. re: EaterBob

                    If I were to pre-judge Triple Crown, it would be because I suspect that it is in the same vein as Nouveau Palais and Le Pickup --- hipster restaurants that make food that would be great at a potluck, but overpriced in a restaurant.

                    1. re: catroast

                      If you believe Pick-Up is overpriced (http://depanneurlepickup.com/menu/), I don't think any viable pricing scheme could ever satisfy your needs.

                      For the record, Dinette is absolutely delicious and soulfoul. I doubt anyone could argue their amazing 6$ strawberry shortcake is too pricey (it feeds 2). Same goes for their fried chicken at $2.50 a piece. Only the sides might be considered "pricey", but some of them (sweet potatoes, buttermilk biscuit) are to die for.

                      I don't even think this applies here because it's not pricier than anywhere else, but if a restaurant offers cooked from scratch, original alternatives to big chains, it's worth a tiny premium.

                      1. re: catroast

                        Well, it may cater to us shallow, spendthrift hipsters ($13 for a filling dinner? imagine!), but it's far more tastefully decorated than both of those. So there's that.

                      2. re: EaterBob

                        And I'll bet you a fried chicken dinner that Triple Crown is closer to APdC than Bofinger in terms of quality, even though it obviously doesn't aspire to be at the same level as APdC. Don't worry, when you lose, the $13 won't break your budget.

                        Since I live quite close, I've actually been a couple of times and by now have tried the chicken, the brisket and most of the side dishes (so, no sandwiches or pulled pork yet). Out of everything, the smoked brisket impressed me least. But then as someone raised on Montreal smoked meat, it's not a style I'm really familiar with. Wasn't bad, though. The mac and cheese, while rich, tasty and obviously homemade, seems the worst value at $12 for a main-course sized serving.

                        Is it original and unique? Maybe it wouldn't be in Houston or any US city, but it is very different from other Montreal BBQ joints I've tried. For one thing, your food comes attractively but not pretentiously plated rather than slopped on red-and-white checked paper in a basket, with sides in those little cardboard containers. Chicken seems to be fried to order. Sides are obviously made with some care and skill. Homemade ginger beer is a nice touch, and easily as good as any I've had elsewhere. I'm expecting decent cocktails whenever they get a liquor license.

                        AFAIK they don't use the word "authentic" in their marketing (such as it is); it's people reporting back who are using it, including those of us who don't feel we have a basis for pronouncing on authenticity one way or the other.

                        Anyway, go ahead and check it out. Interested in hearing your informed opinion.

                        1. re: Mr F

                          It's on the list. Unfortunately I do not live as close as you do, so it might take me a couple of weeks. But once I do, I will definitely report back.

                          And while I have your ear, what did you have at Diablo's?

                          1. re: EaterBob

                            Ribs (pork) and a couple of sides. Ribs were decent, sides competent but mostly unremarkable. It was a few weeks ago, details are hazy. And they do the basket-lined-with-checked-paper thing, which honestly puts me off.

                            Overall it is much more in the Bofinger vein, though better than I remember Bofinger being (however it's been a couple of years since I last ate there). For example I remember Bofinger's ribs being exceedingly fatty and tough. No such problem at Diablo's, and to their credit I do not believe they are cheating (i.e. boiling) to get the meat to fall of the bone.

                            BTW, Triple Crown is closed Wednesdays. Otherwise open til 9 p.m. if I'm not mistaken.

            2. Hubby & I went by for lunch today & loved it! I can't really comment on how authentic it is, but I'm not sure I care. It was delicious food in a nice atmosphere, at a good price - so I don't care if it's exactly how they do BBQ down south or not. We shared the pulled pork sandwich & fried chicken with sides of sweet potatoes, greens (rainbow chard) and biscuit. He had a lemonade & I had a Ginger beer that was so tasty I am going to try and recreate it at home ASAP. Everything was fresh & really tasty. The fried chicken was the best I've had in a while. I think it came to about $30 total and was a very satisfying lunch. I love the deal where you can choose 3 different sides - the portions are reasonable so you get to try a few without stuffing yourself. Unfortunately we had no room for dessert - they had lemon meringue pie & strawberry shortcake. We will definitely be back.

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              1. re: stak

                Thanks for the report! How big is the place? For instance, do you think they could fit a table for 8?

                1. re: kpzoo

                  Unfortunately, no - right now they only have counter seating for about 5 or 6. You could get take-out & have a picnic like one of the previous posters...apparently they might expand & have a dining room in the future.

                  1. re: stak

                    OK, thanks for letting me know, very helpful!

                    1. re: kpzoo

                      One nice option Kpzoo is that they supply a picnic basket and you can go and eat at the park across the street. Also they took over the corner place and eventually will have seating for more people.

              2. The fact that there exists a place for me to get a biscuit that is a biscuit and not a cookie is enough to make me weep with relief. I make 'em at home, sure, using my grandma's recipe, but every now and again, you just want a biscuit with your breakfast/lunch/dinner.....

                1. Tried the Dinette triple crown the other day for some fried chicken and a biscuit. Really loved the biscuit, and the fried chicken was very tasty, although I thought the amount of chicken was kinda small. Would definitely go back .

                  1. It was okay - the picnic concept was great, very much enjoyed sitting in the nearby park. As far as the food... it was, as I said, just okay. The chicken was very small, and its batter was not fluffy enough; the corn bread was too salty, when it should have been sweeter; the portions on the sides were tiny. If you're from the American south, it will be very disappointing for all the hype. If you want a great picnic, with okay food, at an affordable price, it's worth it. Otherwise, it's a hip restaurant, which will draw a lot of attention, contribute to overvalued prices in the neighborhood, and in the end, won't contribute anything new to the world of food...

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                    1. re: nicgd

                      Haven't been since around the time of my last post in this thread... hoping your report just indicates a difference in taste, not that quality is already slipping.

                      The cornbread was my least favourite of the sides. Not bad, but a bit dry and, as you say, salty.

                      Yes, the chicken pieces are small, but at $2.50 each à la carte it's easy and not terribly expensive to "supersize" your dinner if you want. Personally, gigantic portions are one aspect of the American style I can do without. I'd rather clean my plate and be pleasantly full, than have to choose between overeating or throwing away food.

                      I'm curious about your final two comments: is it affordable, or overpriced? A few items are a tad on the high side, but on the whole I find the $11-13 plates a good value. As for driving up prices in the neighbourhood... there are still plenty of cheap eats in the area (especially if you include JTM and the Vietnamese places on St-Denis), and there were already plenty of more expensive restaurants around, some of them quite old. I'm having a hard time envisioning this place driving (or reflecting) gentrification to anywhere near the same extent as, say, Bottega.

                      Obviously it's nothing new to the world of food, but it is something new to the mid-priced eats in the neighbourhood.

                      1. re: Mr F

                        Sorry, should have been clearer about that - the food was pretty affordable, mid-range. The overvalued prices I was referring to were rents and how such hyped up restaurants contribute to the value of real estate development and spur northward movement. While Bottega is certainly its own case, this restaurant promises something similar, authentic food unavailable anywhere else in Montreal.

                        I think the quality of the food is fine, I don't want to make it seem like I had a bad experience there and I'm sure the quality is not slipping - the picnic was nothing but pleasant and the service polite. That said, I don't think I would eat there regularly or feel that it would be a go-to place if I had a craving for fried chicken. If I head there again, I will be sure to try some other sides.

                        1. re: nicgd

                          Fair enough, though I think that northward spread was pretty much inevitable when almost everything south of the tracks became as expensive as it is, and I don't think the restaurants really drive the process so much as follow hot residential markets (so-called "Mile Ex" in this case).

                          Can't say I really blame people for investing their money and work into a business that's likely to benefit from the process...

                          1. re: nicgd

                            Mr F beat me to the punch.

                            "The overvalued prices I was referring to were rents and how such hyped up restaurants contribute to the value of real estate development and spur northward movement"

                            Restos affecting real estate value? Where does that theory come from?

                            1. re: ios94

                              I'm pretty sure the quality and character of the services in a neighborhood affect property values. Restaurants, as well as shops, can also serve as destination points that attract distinct groups of people into new parts of the city, making the areas seem more amenable to live in than they may have otherwise. The increased demand to live in an area with desirable services will then put upward pressure on housing prices. This is obviously only one part of neighborhood change and is not entirely linear, there are certainly feedback loops, and the relationship may start out in the opposite fashion - which Mr F mentions, with restaurants following hot residential markets.

                      2. Went last weekend for take-out and we really enjoyed it. We tried just about one of everything on the menu. I found the size of the sides reasonable and their small mac and cheese was actually quite large for the 6$ price tag. We loved the fried chicken, crispy and delicious (both piece were white meat) and the hubby was in love with the cornbread (I found it a tad dry but loved the biscuit!). The place was extremely busy and it looked like most people were having a picnic in the park. Black-eye peas were also great but I don't think I would order the braised greens again, (husband liked them, but they weren't my thing). At 5$ a serving, the pulled pork was the best value, we asked for mesquite bbq sauce instead of the mustard it usually comes with. The best part of our meal must have been the home-made desserts. We tried the strawberry short cake and lemon meringue pie. Huge portions but we managed to finish every single bite. Probably one of the best lemon meringue pies I've every tried. We will be back often! Remember, cash only!

                        1. Wanting something casual and fun for my birthday, I spontaneously planned a dinner at Triple Crown last night along with my wife and 5 friends. We figured we'd get a bit of everything to go and truck it over to the park acoss the street. Regulars will have figured out by now what happened.

                          We all met up around 7:00 p.m. only to discover that Triple Crown is in fact closed on Wednesdays. Wtf, was the general reaction. Yes, we should have checked the website (erm, I mean Facebook page, since they don't have a website) but still, c'mon, what restaurant is closed on Wednesday and only Wednesday. It was very frustrating.

                          Needless to say, after a very long wait in line, we had a lovely time at Icehouse.

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                          1. re: didierseth

                            I hate waiting in line, which is why I never go to Icehouse, even though our group would love it. Do they at least bring you drinks?

                            1. re: sweettoothMTL

                              i hate paying outrageous prices which is why i never returned to icehouse

                              1. re: catroast

                                Our total bill, tip included, was $240 for 7 people. We had a big bucket of fried chicken, big bucket of ribs, each comes with three sides, and two pitchers of bourbon lemonade. Totally enough food. I don't really consider that outrageous. I hate waiting in line too but the grub was quality and we had a blast. There's a hipster/moneyed/too-cool-for-school vibe to the place that I don't love either but hey, we were there so I guess you can lump us in with that crowd too ;)

                                1. re: didierseth

                                  $240 and all you ate was some fried chicken and ribs? that is outrageous.

                                  and for $240, they should at least give you a freaking plate. rich kitsch sucks.

                                    1. re: catroast

                                      Don't forget the two pitchers of bourbon lemonade... That's $90+ right there. And if you want to really do the calculations. $26/person for two drinks, some fried chicken, a rib or so, and the equivalent of a side isn't bad at all. Then you add in the 15% taxes and 15% tip and you end up at $240.

                                      Yes it's a pity they don't do plates, but at the rate that Nick and Mike go through dish washers I think they made a wise decision to do everything disposable.

                                      1. re: EaterBob

                                        and if it was an overpriced bar with food that would be fine. but it's actually an overpriced restaurant with drinks ;)

                                    2. re: didierseth

                                      Hipsters are "moneyed"? Wow, news to me.

                                      $35 pp might not be outrageous, and I guess it's really not for a bday splurge, but there's loads of good options in the area for $15-20. Icehouse's pricing certainly keeps all the starving artists and underemployed-by-design (the real hipsters) that I know from munching down there.

                                    3. re: catroast

                                      For the record though, I find Nick Hodge's other place, Kitchenette, to be quite expensive for what you get. Good food but on the pricey end of the spectrum.

                                    4. re: sweettoothMTL

                                      No, it's not BYOB/W but the drinks are great (get a pitcher of bourbon lemonade) and they have Creemore on tap.

                                    5. re: didierseth

                                      I've noticed over several years a couple of Vietnamese restaurants in Montreal are closed on Wednesday, & only Wednesday. I found it a little strange(I thought it might be only a Vietnamese restaurant thing).

                                      1. re: BLM

                                        That's odd. I thought all the Vietnamese restaurants closed on Tuesday.

                                        1. re: SnackHappy

                                          I believe quite a few Indian restos are closed Tuesdays.

                                          1. re: SnackHappy

                                            Maybe I got Wednesday confused with Tuesday. Then why do Vietnamese restaurants closed on Tuesday(is it just Montreal, or everywhere)?

                                            1. re: BLM

                                              Let's bring it back to the original point. Why is Triple Crown closed on Wednesdays? And why isn't it clearer on their Facebook page? Moreover, why don't they have a website yet - heck, even a "business card" site with vitals would be nice.

                                              It just sucked to all show up there and then be denied ... on a Wednesday - and on my birthday (I know, I know, woe is me).

                                              Still excited to try it though ... don't get me wrong.

                                              1. re: didierseth

                                                Posted on their facebook page June 23 - how much clearer do you think it should be?

                                                Our doors are now open 6 days a week:

                                                11 am to 9 pm
                                                Closed Wednesdays.

                                                1. re: cherylmtl

                                                  Yeah it does say on their facebook that it is closed on Wednesdays. But I can understand the confusion, it is written on a wall post and not in the "about restaurant" section at the top of the page where most restaurants advertise their hours.

                                                  1. re: causeimhungry


                                                    This is really not hard to find: Click "About" on their Facebook page.

                                                    As for why Wednesday is their day off, maybe you should ask them.

                                                    1. re: causeimhungry

                                                      Thank you causeimhungry - exactly my point :)

                                                  2. re: didierseth

                                                    Perhaps the question should be "why do you have a *birthday* on Wednesday"
                                                    ...Maybe change that up next time.

                                                    Actually Wednesday closing seems a tad wonky. I used to run 7 days and Mondays/Tuesdays were money losers, Business picked up on Wednesdays (break even). Money days were Thu-Sun. We simply closed Mon/Tue and used relatively quiet Wednesday as the major prep day.

                                                    1. re: porker

                                                      Yeah, seriously, what was I thinking ;) (actually going to Nora Gray tonight for the "official" celebration).

                                                      I have a restaurant background too and yeah, similar experience re: quiet/prep days versus money days. One well-known place I worked at for a year is closed Sunday/Monday ... Wednesday was a decent night for business.

                                                  3. re: BLM

                                                    Outside of downtown, I can't think of a new restaurant that's bothered paying for a proper website in years. Agree that Wed is a dumb night to close.

                                                    1. re: Shattered

                                                      I always assumed restaurants that were open on Sundays were often closed one day early in the week to get a break ... ?

                                                      1. re: Plateaumaman

                                                        They are, but as others said, it's usually Mon or Tues, not a decent night like Wed.

                                            2. Another good fried chicken lunch today, for under $20/person with tax and tip. No room for dessert.

                                              Enjoyed the Mexican-style corn on the cob, a special that's available as a side included in the meat-and-threes plates. Also tried and liked the fried okra. Not sure if it's a special or a permanent addition.

                                              Homemade lemonade is nice and sour, nowhere near too sweet. If you like it sweet, better say so.

                                              1. Went yesterday with a bunch of friends. We tried all the mains with all the sides. Think the best thing is the fried chicken and the brisket. Thought the pulled pork was a bit mushy. Sides were meh, with the exception of the biscuit, the greens and the sweet potato IMO. Mac & cheese was awful: grainy (sauce too hot when melting the cheese), slightly bitter, pasta undercooked, and generally looked like it was quickly assembled (throw some pasta together with the sauce and serve as opposed to ovenbaked). But as far as value goes, not bad for $ 21 per person (tax + tip included).

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                                                1. re: estilker

                                                  Wow, their brisket sandwich was to die for. Fresh soft bun seems to be a homemade, the meat itself was tender and moist with just a touch of sauce and coleslaw. Perfect balance. Beware the sandwich is huge.

                                                2. Went last friday to pick up some fried chicken for take-out, and saw that the dining room in the adjoining room is now finished. While there wasn't anyone actually eating at that time in it, the waitress told some people that went for the picnic in the park that they could come back there if it started raining, so it seems like it is open.

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                                                  1. re: NickinMtl

                                                    They've been open for a while for tasting menus and groups but I was told they will not fully/officially open it soon as they would like to renovate their kitchen before. Also heard that they would like to do brunch there at some point.

                                                    1. re: NickinMtl

                                                      During the colder days of spring we were seated in there when the main restaurant was full and picnicking would have been unpleasant.