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Using the back/ larger end of chopsticks when taking food from a communal plate

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tinnywatty Jun 17, 2012 06:34 PM

So whenever I eat Japanese or Chinese food with people other than my boyfriend, we transfer food from a communal plate to our own plates with the non-eating end of the chopsticks, then turn them around to eat. As far as I'm aware, this is common practice in chopstick-using restaurants since there is no designated serving utensil. (Boyfriend and I don't bother turning our chopsticks around, and if I'm grabbing something distinct like a piece of sushi and know I won't be touching any food but the piece I'm taking, I don't usually bother unless I'm with someone very formal, which might be a faux pas).

My question is this: is this not done in Korean restaurants/tradition? Yesterday, we (boyfriend & I) were graciously hosted for a meal out by a Korean family (mother and two children) that we know slightly. She explained to us that meals in Korean restaurants are usually eaten family-style. When she demonstrated how to eat the food (wrap rice, sauce and meat in a lettuce or sesame leaf, fold up) she didn't turn her chopsticks around, so we followed her example and didn't either. She ordered a spicy pork dish mainly for us and separated out a little dish of the meat for herself (kids didn't like pork) before we started eating, so I suppose there was no real eating-end of chopstick contact there except between boyfriend & I. But in the communal dishes of various kimchees and other sauces, no one seemed concerned about dipping the eating end of the chopsticks or the soup spoons.

I'm not super germaphobic in this kind of situation, but I'm curious if there is a custom difference with Korean food or if the difference was specific to the fact that there were kids involved and it was a fairly casual meal.

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    Sushiqueen36 RE: tinnywatty Jun 17, 2012 06:51 PM

    I lived in Japan for a few months and was taught the reverse chopstick technique also. When in casual, friendly situations it almost seemed insulting to use the large (non germy) end but in formal environs it was expected. Haven't spent time in Korea tho...

    1. Tripeler RE: tinnywatty Jun 17, 2012 07:11 PM

      I have lived in Japan since 1977, and it seems to me that people will reverse chopsticks for serving in only the most formal situations. To be honest, these days I rarely see people doing this.

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        tastesgoodwhatisit RE: Tripeler Jun 17, 2012 08:07 PM

        That's my experience in both Taiwan and China - if you do the reverse chopstick serving, you're being ultra polite and formal, but it would be unlikely at a casual dinner or family dinner.

        When we entertain guests from abroad, we usually ask for extra chopsticks for serving, knowing that visitors tend to be squeamish about using eating utensils for serving.

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          Tripeler RE: tastesgoodwhatisit Jun 17, 2012 09:48 PM

          The best thing to use for serving from large plates are the larger "kitchen chopsticks" which are different from those which are used by the people eating.

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            tastesgoodwhatisit RE: Tripeler Jun 18, 2012 01:34 AM

            I find the large ones difficult to use accurately, due to increased length - my husband uses them all the time while cooking.

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        fourunder RE: tinnywatty Jun 17, 2012 08:54 PM

        Traditions and politeness aside, I believe it has more to do with what you were taught to do at the family table when you were young ( or not taught, if you are unaware of the practice )......if the family did not go out or entertain guests much, the setting was informal and family only. I know the custom because....many years ago my friend's family had a relative visiting from abroad and I was invited to their home for dinner. I saw the relative reverse his chopsticks to gather food into his bowl......I was inquisitive, so I asked him why he did so....and he explained the customary practice. My friend was never taught or introduced to the custom.....as such, he knew nothing about it.

        I always ask for spoons or extra chopsticks to serve others....or myself, in the presence of mixed company dining.

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          tinnywatty RE: tinnywatty Jun 17, 2012 11:05 PM

          Really interesting to hear everyone's perspective on this. I first learned this practice when watching boyfriends mom, who is Chinese, packing of leftovers at a restaurant, and assumed it was more widespread than it apparently is.

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            DeppityDawg RE: tinnywatty Jun 18, 2012 03:59 AM

            Yes, Koreans are less squeamish about sticking their chopsticks and spoons into communal bowls. In fact, it goes beyond "less squeamish": I think they actually see it as a positive thing, reinforcing social bonds among friends, family, colleagues, etc.

            See also:
            Table Manners in Seoul
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/341873

            Chinese Table Etiquette Question
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/490242

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              ricepad RE: tinnywatty Jun 18, 2012 12:21 PM

              What I was taught as a child and what I did (and continue to do) are different things. At home, I was taught to turn the chopsticks around to serve myself, especially if we had company. What I observed in my parents, however, was a greater influence than what they tried to teach, which was a perfect example of "do as I say and not as I do". IOW, my parents weren't all that consistent about turning their own chopsticks around to serve from a communal plate. Consequently, I rarely do it.

              I have often considered this an expression of familiarity, too. If I don't turn my chopsticks around, that means I consider my dining companions to be very close to me. If I do, it means I'm recognizing more social distance between us.

              One other consideration: when you're seven years old, it's hard NOT to lick the fat ends of the chopsticks after you've served yourself...it's almost impulsive!

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                Steve RE: tinnywatty Jun 18, 2012 07:03 PM

                When we ate as part of a small group in China, there were no individual plates. Everyone ate from the communal dishes. Chopstickes were used for their reach as well as a way to pick up the food and eat it.

                1. njmarshall55 RE: tinnywatty Jun 21, 2012 11:03 AM

                  Hmmmm...wonder if there's smaller chopstics for salad? J/K...spent much time in far east. I DO remember the "fat end" for serving in restaurants, but not at home. That was many years ago...now I can only judge by what I see on TV.

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