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Croatian 2005 Madirazza Dingac - Need Help!!

Charles Yu Jun 11, 2012 09:14 PM

I was given this wine as a gift over the week end. Apparently, this was served to the Pope and his party of Bishops and Cardinals when they visited Croatia a while back!
Question! Any fellow chowhounder had previous experience with this wine? Any idea how long I can lay it down for? Is it at its peak now??!! I have no clue about this wine and the grape varietal's characteristics!!

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    Maximilien Jun 12, 2012 06:30 AM

    If you have only one bottle, just open it and discover it.

    A quick googling reveal that it looks to be a good wine, but not necessarily a keeper.

    report back.

    1. penthouse pup Jun 12, 2012 07:28 AM

      Is this the white (made of Posip) or the red (made of Plavic)? I have had reds from Dingac and they have been savory, rich and Zinfandel-like (there seems to be a link in the grape DNA.) I have never had a white, though...so can't comment. The reds I have had all had some age (at least four to five years and were robust but not "common"--they were all very well made...)

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      1. re: penthouse pup
        Charles Yu Jun 12, 2012 03:27 PM

        Its the Red!
        Thanks PP for your input. I'll open up a Cali Zin as well when I decide to open up the Dingac.

      2. vinologue Jun 17, 2012 12:18 AM

        Dingač is a region denomination in Croatia from which only the red, Plavac Mali grapes are produced. There is no such thing as a white from Dingač. Plavac Mali is a cross between two older Croatian grapes which are Dobričić and Crljenak Kaštelanski--also know as Pribidrag. This second grape of the cross is genetically identically to both Californian Zinfandel and Italian Primitivo.

        Importers like to say that Plavac Mali is like Zinfandel to make selling it easier, but it's really not. It's a lighter wine that tends to have a different set of dark spices to it as well as a eucalyptus component to the nose. Also, many producers age in their domestic Croatian oak from from the Slavonia region which gives quite a different flavor aspect than French or American oak.

        Your particular bottle from Madirazza should probably be drank as soon as possible. While the Dingač wines can age rather well (and tend to be rather high in alcohol) they are not often shipped properly and can have cork problems that make the wine expire way before its time. Otherwise, the 2005 was a good year.

        If you were interested, we actually wrote a guide to all the wines of the Dalmatian region including Dingač http://www.vinologue.net/guides/dalma...

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        1. re: vinologue
          Charles Yu Jun 17, 2012 02:00 PM

          The bottle was actually bought in Croatia at the vineyard, recommended by the winery owner!

          1. re: Charles Yu
            vinologue Jun 18, 2012 11:39 AM

            Cheeky owner... Dingač is usually the most expensive red wine in the portfolio.

            But in that case, it could probably stand to age a bit longer if desired, although seven years is a pretty healthy age for Plavac Mali. Not sure what the problem was/is with the corks on Croatian bottles but a lot of them were failing in a number of vintages.

            www.vinologue.net/crush/

        2. Charles Yu Jan 1, 2013 02:35 PM

          Finally opened it last night.
          Dense, thick and opaque in colour. Black currant nose. Polished, coarse tannin with sweet taste of Black currant jam, leather, cedar and sweet spice. A totally unfamiliar taste but very attractive and stylish wine!

           
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