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bishopsbitter Jun 10, 2012 03:49 AM

Reviewed a pretty good Breakfast thread here http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/358779 but there was little discussion on opening hours.
I am an early-bird weekdays -and- (sometimes even MORE so) on weekends. I have been struck by how surprisingly late-started many breakfast spots are in the TC's, especially at weekends I find myself often out and about wanting a good breakfast between 530am and 730 am Sat & Sun. There's Mickey's, of course. But there must be other taxi-driver haunts out there. But they are not easy to locate by driving around randomly and hopefully.
Would anyone be able to contrive a list of either 24-hour diners other than Mickey's or breakfast spots who who don't observe bankers' hours (on weekends)? Let's say open before 730? Obviously we're not talking Perkin's or McD's.
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  1. MSPD RE: bishopsbitter Jun 10, 2012 09:10 AM

    Said it before, I'll say it again: Stockmen's Truck Stop. Open 24 hours/365 days a year.

    Closer in, Bonnie's Cafe on University is open at 5:30 on weekdays, 6 on Saturday, and 6:30 on Sunday.

    Al's Breakfast opens at 6:00.

    In the south metro, Windmill Cafe in Savage is open at 4:30 a.m. on weekdays, 6 a.m. on weekends and the Buckboard in Lakeville is open at 5 a.m.

    These are all of my go-to spots for a no-nonsense breakfast (blue collar, greasy spoonish).

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      bishopsbitter RE: MSPD Jun 10, 2012 01:34 PM

      I think Al's opens 900am on Sundays, but I may be wrong. Where is Stockman's at? It doesn't ring a bell. Windmill cafe sounds like it has the goods. Ditto Buckboard. This morning I had a terrible abortive hunt for Patrick's on Lyndale (had the address, but could nto find it: address was 6011 Lyndale or thereabouts: that stretch appeared a wasteland in terms of restaurants and I drove up and down 5 times!), then to the Anchor (at 8am they don't open till 10), the place on 13th (Modern?) there similarly wasn't open. I ended up back at the Finnish Bistro simply for want of being able to find anywhere else! I had always assumed the NOrdic blood still ran strong with people eating breakfast at 600am Sundays with nary a blink, but the old school habits must ahve died out. :-)

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        justalex RE: bishopsbitter Jun 10, 2012 02:57 PM

        Patrick's is inside the Bachman's garden center at 60th and Lyndale. I had lunch there a couple of years ago. I was not aware they served breakfast. Interesting.

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          bishopsbitter RE: justalex Jun 10, 2012 04:00 PM

          SH** I Drove around their lot, but it looked deserted. But according to the Web site they open @ 700am. http://patricksbakerycafe.com/S_locat... Oh I now see he has two locations. THe Lyndale is "call for hours." Poorly designed website combined with looking at at 600am before my eyes had fully started to focus for the day. ^^^^!

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            justalex RE: bishopsbitter Jun 10, 2012 06:07 PM

            My poor dear. Their website is bad. I can't imagine Patrick's would open before the garden center's hours. You didn't miss a whole lot. If I recall my lunch correctly, it's just a cafeteria line and you dine in the middle of the quite pretty houseplant section. You didn't miss anything spectacular. I'm not an early riser on weekends so I have no recs sad to say.

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              bishopsbitter RE: justalex Jun 11, 2012 02:22 AM

              I had read he was ex pastry chef @ Sofitel. I wondered if he could actually bake bread & pastries like the much-missed Napoleon's on St Clair - a place I liked and patronized very much circa 1982-3. (When bloody Starbucks (at least as a ubiquitous nationwide scourge) was not even a gleam in any Lex Luthor's eyes.) Napoleon's did nice real coffees
              and superb bread & pastries.

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          steve_in_stpaul RE: bishopsbitter Jun 10, 2012 03:07 PM

          Stockmen's is by the 494/Hardman Ave exit in South Saint Paul. It's part of a big truck plaza on Farwell; just go a little north on Hardman and it's on your left.

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            sandylc RE: bishopsbitter Jun 13, 2012 07:31 PM

            Patrick's main location is near Southdale. The Bachman's thing is just an outpost.

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            bishopsbitter RE: MSPD Jun 10, 2012 01:35 PM

            Thanks for these tips. They will get used next weekend I am over-weekending here! bb

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            KristinT013 RE: bishopsbitter Jun 10, 2012 09:55 AM

            Day By Day Cafe opens at 6 on Saturdays and 7 on Sundays. It's not the best breakfast in town, but it's solid and probably better than Bonnie's. I like the scrambled eggs with cream cheese.

            1. cayjohan RE: bishopsbitter Jun 10, 2012 06:01 PM

              Hard Times Cafe on the University of Minnesota's West Bank is open 22 hours a day, from 6am to 4am. It's a vegetarian/vegan collectively owned place that serves a strong cup of coffee and some big breakfasts for a nice price. Order at the counter. Atmosphere is old hippies and new hipsters and students and everything in between. I personally like its vibe. Be aware: there's a lot of street work going on there now, sadly. Address is 1821 Riverside Avenue, Minneapolis.

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                bishopsbitter RE: cayjohan Jun 10, 2012 06:08 PM

                Thanks, I am gathering at least a handful of "go to" suggestions - I appreciate yours, and everyones' responses.:-)

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                  The Dairy Queen RE: cayjohan Jun 11, 2012 06:56 AM

                  I just recently "discovered" this place, meaning, I drove by it and was surprised to find it. Is there anything there you recommend? Also, have you tried meals other than breakfast?

                  ~TDQ

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                    cayjohan RE: The Dairy Queen Jun 11, 2012 09:51 AM

                    http://iheartmpls.blogspot.com/2012/0...
                    http://www.martysflyingveganreview.co...

                    TDQ, here're a couple of links to give you an idea of the Hard Times. Being a creature of habit, I always hear the Pavlovian ding that makes me a breakfast customer at the Hard Times - part of that is the more than decent coffee. My kids are both U of M students, have some food cred with me, haunt this place a lot, and rave about the other food as well, especially the falafel.. Check out the often excellent baked goods, too.

                    Is it a bit grungy? Yep...and most online reviews will make some mention of heebie-heebie inducing bathrooms, but I've never had that particular experience. Be prepared for your dive-o-meter to chime, in any case.. Write your order, with prices, pay (Cash Only!), and wait to be called. Enjoy a lot of food for the money, and some prime people watching.

                    We usually opt for an early early breakfast here, the downside to which is that nearby Keefer Court isn't open until 10 am, so I can't get my favorite West Bank Institution one-two punch of a Hard Times breakfast and a big box of BBQ pork buns to nosh on the rest of the day!

                    Worth checking out to see if it's an acquired taste you'd like to acquire! The place always leaves me with a smile, and I am not in any way, shape or form a happy morning person. <grin>

                    Cay

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                      The Dairy Queen RE: cayjohan Jun 11, 2012 09:58 AM

                      This is terrific info, thank you!

                      ~TDQ

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                      ShinyCake RE: The Dairy Queen Jun 23, 2012 06:57 AM

                      Hard Times has really really good huevos rancheros. And great people-watching.

                  2. The Dairy Queen RE: bishopsbitter Jun 11, 2012 06:35 AM

                    M-Sat, Capitol View Cafe in St. Paul opens at 7am. I'll bet this would be your kind of place. http://www.capitalviewcafe.com/ordere...

                    ETA: Also, French Meadow Cafe opens at 6:30am 7 days a week. It doesn't strike me as your kind of place though. http://www.frenchmeadowcafe.com/conta... and someone recently posted a "downhill" report on this place. I haven't been there to confirm whether or not this is really true. They've got some nice baked goods in addition to sit down meals. (Counter service only, though. You get a number and they bring your food out to your table.)

                    I think Maria's on Franklin in MInneapolis opens at 7am on Sat, but their website is down so I can't confirm. I always get the corn pancakes.

                    I thought I read somewhere that Pineda Tacos opens at 6 or 6:30 but I can't remember where I read that in order to confirm it. EDITED: I think I mis-remembered and it was Los Ocampo at their Suburban Ave location in St. Paul only-- and they are apparenlty open 24 hours on weekends according to About.com. They don't seem to have hours on their webiste in order for me to confirm. http://minneapolis.about.com/od/fooda...

                    Also according to that link, apparently Flameburger is also open 24 hours. But, isn't that a chain? http://minneapolis.about.com/od/fooda...

                    Golden's Deli in St. Paul has recently started serving a sit-down breakfast (starting at 7am), but I haven't tried it myself so can't vouch for it. Again, probably not your kind of place, but probably closer to it than French Meadow... http://www.goldensdeli.us/dining.html

                    Manny's Steakhouse opens at 6:30 for a very upscale kind of breakfast. http://www.mannyssteakhouse.com/locat...

                    Longfellow Grill opens at 7am. http://www.longfellowgrill.com/contac... Probably not your kind of place but they do have a glorious patio.

                    ~TDQ

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                      GutGrease RE: The Dairy Queen Jun 13, 2012 02:44 PM

                      I was wondering when someone would point out Flameburger. The OP was looking for taxi-driver type of hangouts which to me is a greasy spoon....so if it isn't Mickey's or Al's it's Flameburger. Yeah it's a chain but they are open 24 hrs, everything is cooked on a griddle in front of you, and it's all good, greasy grub. Chowhounds will turn up their noses but not a guy making $8/hour and looking for a tasty meal in the wee hours of the morning! There's nothing like getting your eggs and burgers all cooked on the same surface and prepared the same way. Mmmmm

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                        The Dairy Queen RE: GutGrease Jun 13, 2012 06:28 PM

                        Well, now I want to try it!

                        ~TDQ

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                          bishopsbitter RE: The Dairy Queen Jun 14, 2012 03:05 AM

                          Yep, me too. chains I haven't heard of are OK :-)

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                          BigE RE: GutGrease Jun 15, 2012 07:25 AM

                          Let me address the "chain" comment. There are two independently owned locations; one ~a mile south of 694 off Central/65 in Columbia Heights/Fridley, the other off Rice Street ~a mile north of highway 36 in Little Canada. The LC location has been a frequent stop for me over the years. Consistently good/very good diner food, like GG said, made right in front of you, to order. Breakfast is good (VERY good hashbrowns), but I can't go there and not order a burger. Fries are frozen/bagged variety, but always cooked properly.

                      2. MSPD RE: bishopsbitter Jun 11, 2012 06:58 AM

                        Also just thought of these:

                        Colossal Cafe. Both Mpls and St. Paul locations open at 6 a.m. (closed Mondays)

                        Our Kitchen (2 blocks east of 36th and Lyndale in south Mpls) opens at 6 a.m. (another tiny very no-nonsense dinerish place).

                        Patisserie 46 is open at 7 a.m. on Saturdays.

                        Maria's Cafe is open at 7 a.m. on Saturday (8 on Sunday). Their corn pancakes are my favorite pancakes I've ever had.

                        Emily's F&M on Lowry in North Minneapolis is open at 7 a.m. on weekends. (Standard breakfast fare)

                        Milda's Cafe (weekdays only) is open at 7. (Standard breakfast fare)

                        You can find plenty of info on all of these. As with the above, most of what I have posted tend towards the blue collar breakfast joints (with the exception of Patisserie 46, obviously). My idea of a good breakfast isn't frou-frou. Give me Stockmen's corned beef hash (made from scratch, not canned stuff), a couple pancakes the size of a large plate, coffee and OJ, then hand me a shovel or the keys to a semi and I'm good to go. Hopefully that level-sets your expectations if you go to any of my recommendations. Buckboard, Windmill, Stockmen's, Our Kitchen, Emily's and Milda's are all like that.

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                          bishopsbitter RE: MSPD Jun 11, 2012 05:49 PM

                          Gets better and better. I knew these palces were out there but doggone hard to track down by "feel." Thanks!!!

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                            WildSwede RE: MSPD Jun 14, 2012 10:00 AM

                            MSPD - do any of the places you recommend serve good country (chicken) fried steak and/or biscuits & gravy? Thanks!

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                              MSPD RE: WildSwede Jun 14, 2012 12:06 PM

                              I would guess most have biscuits and gravy but not sure on the country fried steak (not really something I order very often). The only thing that stands out in my memory is the biscuits and gravy at Stockmen's. Nothing that blew me away, but hearty, less-mild sausage, and biscuits that weren't dry as a bone.

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                                WildSwede RE: MSPD Jun 14, 2012 02:19 PM

                                Great! Thanks!

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                                KTFoley RE: WildSwede Jun 14, 2012 06:59 PM

                                I just went to Magnolia restaurant (Magnolia & Payne Aves, East St. Paul) to try their fried chicken that was mentioned in another thread. It WAS the best fried chicken I've had in the Twin Cities, and the garlic-mashed side was made with real skin-on red potatoes.

                                This is from-scratch diner cooking, with breakfast served all day, a Monday meatloaf special, Liver & Onions on the dinner menu, potsful of weak coffee, and banana cream pie among the dessert selections.

                                They open at 6:30am, seven days a week. Both Country Fried Steak and Biscuits & Gravy are on the menu. I haven't been there for a morning meal, but the fried chicken fills me with optimism.

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                                  WildSwede RE: KTFoley Jun 15, 2012 11:31 AM

                                  Wonderful! Much appreciated! Thanks!

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                                    clepro RE: KTFoley Jun 15, 2012 12:47 PM

                                    Magnolia's morning meals are great, no frills, pack it in breakfasts. Recommended!

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                                      WildSwede RE: clepro Jun 15, 2012 02:38 PM

                                      Fantastic, thanks! I have made a note of it and we will be stopping there for breakfast one of the days next week! Thanks again!

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                                    MSPD RE: WildSwede Jun 25, 2012 07:26 AM

                                    Edit to my last reply. I had biscuits and gravy at the Windmill yesterday. Biscuits were very nice -- not at all dry and flour-y, but still filling. The gravy was tasty but more like a pudding consistency. I prefer it a little bit runnier. I dropped two eggs on top (over-easy) and the runny yolk improved the consistency of the gravy. Nothing out of this world, but still a nice breakfast and a great way to fuel up for several hours of yard work.

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                                      bishopsbitter RE: MSPD Jun 26, 2012 03:30 AM

                                      I agree gravy should not be too thick. It's another thing where the tendency is 100% opposite of what we prefer. One almost thinks it is mixed to make it easier for waitress to carry it without it spilling, than because it's good eating gravy that's like overthickened wallpaper paste.

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                                  Seige RE: bishopsbitter Jun 13, 2012 08:59 PM

                                  My favorite weekend breakfast spot is Bon Vie on Selby in St. Paul. They open at 7:30 on Saturday and 8:00 on Sunday.

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                                    bishopsbitter RE: bishopsbitter Jun 14, 2012 03:06 AM

                                    Glad I asked this question. Early weekend breakfasts options galore now! Thanks!!

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                                      shadowfax RE: bishopsbitter Jun 14, 2012 12:10 PM

                                      Good Day Cafe in Golden Valley opens at 6:30. They're good, too.

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                                        bob s RE: shadowfax Jun 14, 2012 09:18 PM

                                        I'm glad you like the Good Day Cafe, shadowfax but it's never done it for me. I am willing to eat there if it's not busy and I'm in that area, but I've never understood the lines out the door. I've never had anything there that I haven't had as good (and cheaper) someplace else.

                                        Plus - and I'll admit my urban-snob bias up front - there's a shiny, bright, happy feel to the place that doesn't agree with my sensibilities.

                                      2. Davydd RE: bishopsbitter Jun 14, 2012 03:22 PM

                                        Ideal Diner on Central Avenue, Northeast Minneapolis is open at 6:30 AM seven days a week. It is a counter only kind of place.

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                                          bishopsbitter RE: Davydd Jun 14, 2012 04:02 PM

                                          The name is good: I did cruise Central Ave but obviously not the right bit, last Weekend.

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                                            ChillyDog RE: Davydd May 4, 2013 08:33 PM

                                            Sorry to hear Ideal Diner is out of business. It's been on my to do list for quite a while but I never made the effort to get there.

                                          2. bob s RE: bishopsbitter Jun 14, 2012 09:13 PM

                                            The Uptown Diner at 26th and Hennepin is open 24 hours a day, Thursday through Sunday and opens at 6 a.m. Monday through Wednesday.

                                            I like the several of their breakfast dishes a lot - particularly their hash brown-based breakfasts (e.g., Cajun breakfast, Tex-Mex breakfast, etc.), although they're gigantic. A half-order takes up a dinner plate. Food is generally solid. It's part of a smallish chain including the New Louisiana Diner in St. Paul.

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                                              ChillyDog RE: bishopsbitter Jun 16, 2012 12:20 PM

                                              T&T Galley, in beautiful South Saint Paul, is open daily 5 a.m. to 2 p.m. Diner food with a nautical theme. Excellent service.

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                                                bishopsbitter RE: ChillyDog Jun 17, 2012 05:22 PM

                                                T&T I like it!

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                                                bishopsbitter RE: bishopsbitter Jun 23, 2012 03:38 AM

                                                Trying the Stockman's this morning, once I get showered. Report later.

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                                                  MSPD RE: bishopsbitter Jun 23, 2012 06:53 AM

                                                  If you wanted the true experience, you should have showered there.

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                                                    ibew292 RE: MSPD Jun 23, 2012 08:44 AM

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                                                      bishopsbitter RE: MSPD Jun 23, 2012 02:29 PM

                                                      I'll know next time. The Stockman's I rated very highly. Waitresses who call you "sweetie" and "hon" always work for me and coffee topped off approximately every 15 seconds is good too. Spic and span, good pork chop., The eggs and toast the same underdone/limp problems, but I really enjoyed it here. Packing 'em in 6:45 on a Saturday morning. I liked the magazine rack which was 50% smut, and the rest included High Times and Misdemeanors and similar publications. Price was good and an overall A1 experience. I just wish the amazing stockyards' stench was still in effect to add to the atmosphere. The person who said "I've said it before and say it again" knew what they were on about. THANKS!

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                                                        bishopsbitter RE: bishopsbitter Jun 23, 2012 02:37 PM

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                                                          Seige RE: bishopsbitter Jun 25, 2012 10:20 PM

                                                          My husband took me there for our anniversary. We had our first date at a truck stop... long story, but we're not creepy, I swear! :) I wasn't super impressed with the food, but we didn't go there for breakfast, so that may have been part of the issue. I did love, love, love our waitress though. I can't remember her name, but she had a super high-pitched voice and was just the sweetest little thing ever. I swear she should blow that place though and do cartoon voice-overs. Seriously.

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                                                        ChillyDog RE: bishopsbitter Jul 4, 2012 09:03 AM

                                                        I enjoy a good Stockmen's breakfast but don't recommend it until this heat wave breaks. It's 90 degrees already this morning and was nearly as hot inside. This makes for uncomfortable coffee drinking. And to me, coffee is the best part of every breakfast.

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                                                        bishopsbitter RE: bishopsbitter Jun 24, 2012 01:42 PM

                                                        Absolutely boffo (i.e. "great") breakfast at Ideal Diner on Central at 647 this morning. A classic place. 12 stools. One member of staff combined (?)owner-chef-waiter-busboy-cashier-wit and non-raconteur. (A man of few words, but he's pretty busy.)
                                                        For once, the eggs done to a T and in watching him on the griddle it became clear why so often undercooked. It takes a good deal longer than you'd think to get an over easy egg to done-ness so that the yolk is warm and all still runny, but the white is set. I was convinced he'd overcooked it, but it was :just so." You can easily see though, at busy places, where in the interests of not juggling too many orders mentally at once, they over-hurry the eggs, I really liked the Ideal. The guy was an amazing one-man band of breakfast. He also talked extremely like Don Corleone as portrayed by Marlon Brando. Seemed like a nice guy with a nice little business, if indeed (as i suspect) he owns it. As to my original title for this thread, it was clear that late-late were the clientele, for the most part. For some of them it appeared to have been a ~long night but apart from a bit of un-Sunday-Morninglike language, no-one was unruly. well it's hard to be unruly in a 12-seat diner that's full. The toast was still limp, but when I told the guy "great eggs" I think he instantly knew, that I could appreciate his skill and he actually seemed pleased. I suspect he doesn'tget a lot of overt comments, but repeat business is the best comment. And I'll be back. Nice find, thanks to the person here who suggested it. MANY thanks!!! .

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                                                          Davydd RE: bishopsbitter Jun 26, 2012 05:21 AM

                                                          The Ideal Diner gets very little mention say compared to Al's Breakfast. Oddly, I learned about the Ideal Diner from the staff at Al's Breakfast when I asked them about pork tenderloin sandwiches. They recommended the Ideal. You might also want to try their lunch specials sometime.

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                                                            bishopsbitter RE: Davydd Jun 26, 2012 03:46 PM

                                                            I noticed they were offering a special of goulasch which seemed like they wouldn't do that if it wasn't good. I nearly went for an early-morning burger as someone else was having a late burger for breakfast. the fresh onions lettuce tomato looked most refreshing. If I'd known pork was a strong suit at the Ideal I would have surely gone for that.

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                                                          bishopsbitter RE: bishopsbitter Jun 24, 2012 01:45 PM

                                                          The Ideal on central Ave

                                                           
                                                           
                                                           
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                                                            sandylc RE: bishopsbitter Jun 24, 2012 02:25 PM

                                                            hey, bishopsbitter, let's address the limp toast remarks. Are you speaking of wanting cold, crisp toast on which you spread your own butter? As opposed to the typical diner way in the US of serving warm toast with the butter melted into it while hot?

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                                                              zfwp RE: sandylc Jun 24, 2012 03:49 PM

                                                              if you buy 100 gallons of gas the breakfast is free at stockmans.

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                                                                bishopsbitter RE: zfwp Jun 24, 2012 04:50 PM

                                                                Love it!

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                                                                  Seige RE: bishopsbitter Jun 25, 2012 10:21 PM

                                                                  Did you eye all the options to buy on the placemats? That's my favorite!

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                                                                    bishopsbitter RE: Seige Jun 26, 2012 03:32 AM

                                                                    No. i was unobservant. :-(

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                                                                bishopsbitter RE: sandylc Jun 24, 2012 04:49 PM

                                                                Well yes, except HOT crisp toast on which you spread your own butter. Egg yolks penetrated with hot, crisp, freshly buttered toast is what it's all about. It's a quest that only Don Quixote could espouse I fear, but I won't let it stop me.

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                                                                  BigE RE: bishopsbitter Jun 25, 2012 07:40 AM

                                                                  Perhaps you can ask for dry toast with butter on the side.

                                                                  Thanks for the review on Ideal Diner, BTW. I've driven by the place dozens of times, always wondering if it was going to a hole in the wall classic (I.E. Al's Breakfast) or a complete dump. Looks like I'll have to give it a shot some time soon.

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                                                                    bishopsbitter RE: BigE Jun 26, 2012 03:32 AM

                                                                    No, especially if "Don Corleone" is there you will be in good hands.

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