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mizzdee Jun 5, 2012 08:01 AM

Anyone catch this?
Curious as to your thoughts

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  1. mamachef RE: mizzdee Jun 5, 2012 08:26 AM

    I did. I'm getting a bit tired of his formulaic shtick, though. His constant redfaced high-volume screaming begins to sound like loud mosquitoes buzzing after awhile; he'd be ever so much more effective if he was lower-keyed and only "exploded" when it was seriously merited. Clearly by design, to melt the brains of the people on the line and make for The!MOST!EXPLOSIVE!SEASON!EVER!
    Tevon (?) was waaaaaaay out of his league. His scallops were a crime.
    And the pate a choux bungling kinda mystified me - after 3 tries, at a longer time, and it still didn't bake thoroughly? That too seemed a bit staged.
    Just my .02

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    1. re: mamachef
      mizzdee RE: mamachef Jun 5, 2012 08:34 AM

      Ita.....i wish there was a new spin on it..anything
      His rants are mean and boring
      Looks like this year though there will be a whole lotta fighting within the contestants

      1. re: mamachef
        acgold7 RE: mamachef Jun 5, 2012 09:31 AM

        Not pate a choux but puff pastry, but you're right... no way they were that incompetent that they couldn't get it to cook through.

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          mamachef RE: acgold7 Jun 5, 2012 09:46 AM

          Grazie - pastry's not my thing and I goof 'em all the time.

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          LindaWhit RE: mamachef Jun 5, 2012 11:42 AM

          This is why I didn't watch. Although I did watch MasterChef immediately following HK. Less histronics there, and Iike seeing what "regular people" can put on a plate.

          1. re: LindaWhit
            mamachef RE: LindaWhit Jun 5, 2012 12:58 PM

            That final contestant REALLY touched my heart, Linda. And I had to laugh: Joe smiled at her only because she couldn't see it....
            It seems that they were all genuinely affected by her. I enjoyed that immensely.

            1. re: mamachef
              LindaWhit RE: mamachef Jun 5, 2012 01:04 PM

              I will be *very* interested to see how she fares. The runs into the pantry and the timed cooking periods don't bode well for her. And Joe *did* smile for another contestant.

              More tonight...

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                maisonbistro RE: mamachef Jun 5, 2012 02:21 PM

                I also watched Master Chef and you can't compare to HK- one is a horrible accident that you just can't turn away from, the other is a genuine "cooking" show. The last contestant was remarkable, and I am honestly in awe of what she can do, but I just don't understand how she can fare alone in a kitchen- it borders on dangerous- in a professional kitchen. Joe seemed to be really touched by her story though and it's nice to see him have a heart- although I didn't appreciate him doubting Monti Carlo (okay, the name is a bit, umm.... out there) or her dedication.

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                  pine time RE: maisonbistro Jun 5, 2012 03:06 PM

                  I wonder if the Americans with Disabilities Act will come into play--can she have an assistant to pick produce or find ingredients in the pantry, etc? Seemed to be a gracious, lovely lady with an incredible attitude. Wish her well.

                  HK--just can't/won't watch that again. It's too much contrived yelling, fights, crudeness--both from GR and the contestants.

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                    Maryld RE: pine time Jun 6, 2012 07:54 AM

                    Yes, just read today in theTV section of our local newspaper that she will be given an assistant to do the runs to the pantry. She seems like a very sweet--and brave--young woman.

                  2. re: maisonbistro
                    LindaWhit RE: maisonbistro Jun 5, 2012 03:45 PM

                    I agree that there's no way you can compare the two Ramsay shows. Which is why I've stopped watching HK. It's just not interesting - way too formulaic. And since Joanie said there's no one from Boston, I really don't care about the fighting and biting. :-)

                    And I agree, it'll be interesting to see what is allowed on MasterChef- will she have a guide to map the table and the appliance placement? Will she have someone to do her running into the pantry to get her items? I just honestly don't see how this is going to work, but we'll see.

            2. Joanie RE: mizzdee Jun 5, 2012 09:24 AM

              I tried to watch the beginning just to see where the chefs are from, but they don't list that. The head shaving was stupid, the previews of the fighting looked ridiculous, and no one from Boston so thankfully no need to watch.

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                maisonbistro RE: mizzdee Jun 5, 2012 09:28 AM

                This season should be dubbed the trailer trash season. I am not dissing anyone, but just with the clips of the fist fights and language and attitude- none of these people belong in a professional kitchen is that is how they behave. I know that editing, ratings etc. have a lot to do with it, but you would think that Fox and Ramsay would get a sense of what the people want, and although a little drama is always interesting- this season portends to be just too way over the top. I love me some Gordon, but it is definitely getting tiresome.

                And as for his rants- this season might be the first time they are actually justified.

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                1. re: maisonbistro
                  Cheese Boy RE: maisonbistro Jun 6, 2012 11:50 PM

                  This season (especially) it seems like they trawled the ghettos and trailer parks big time. I watch it just the same and look forward to the MC hour that follows.

                  1. re: Cheese Boy
                    Worldwide Diner RE: Cheese Boy Jun 7, 2012 10:43 AM

                    Kimmie and Tiffany seems particularly trash. Can't wait to watch them bitch slap each other.

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                      Cheese Boy RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 7, 2012 10:46 PM

                      Add Robyn to that list even though she's from Hollywood, FLORIDA.

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                        Worldwide Diner RE: Cheese Boy Jun 8, 2012 06:38 AM

                        You knew that Barbie was safe from elimination because she pisses everyone else off. I know Robyn hates Barbie but why did Kimmie and Tiffany go psycho on Barbie? Just because she didn't dig for scallops? But she put up 3 of the 6 plates that won their reward.

                        1. re: Worldwide Diner
                          Cheese Boy RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 8, 2012 08:30 PM

                          With Barbie, it might be a race thing.

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                            Worldwide Diner RE: Cheese Boy Jun 9, 2012 05:44 PM

                            Do you think they cast real bitchy minorities on purpose?

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                              Cheese Boy RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 9, 2012 07:58 PM

                              Nope ... was just answering the question 'why did Kimmie and Tiffany go psycho on Barbie'. It's quite possible that those two are racist.
                              Barbie put up GOOD food (3 or 4 times) and yet those two bitches were tearing her a new one. It sucks witnessing that sort of thing, IYKWIM.

                            2. re: Cheese Boy
                              maisonbistro RE: Cheese Boy Jun 9, 2012 06:52 PM

                              I am thinking that there might have been a whole crapload of editing happening- because it just doesn't make sense that all the girls would turn on Barbie. She won them the challenge! I would hate to think that they've all just turned on her because of the color of her skin- and even worse that Fox, and Gordon Ramsay would use that. Okay, I guess I'm naive- but the thought is appalling and disgusting.

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                    HoosierFoodie RE: mizzdee Jun 5, 2012 09:31 AM

                    Watched...think the show has run its course. Likely done with it.

                    1. ritabwh RE: mizzdee Jun 5, 2012 06:52 PM

                      i ended up skipping last season after 3 episodes. i'll try it again. always willing to give Ramsay another chance.
                      does anyone know if the F Word is still running and if BBCA will show it?

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                        maisonbistro RE: ritabwh Jun 5, 2012 08:15 PM

                        I am a staunch Ramsay fan- and have watched all the seasons of HK- but after today's second episode, I think I am throwing in the towel. It is not entertaining anymore- at any level. There is less and less kitchen action and more dorm room smackdown action happening and it seems that will be the trend for this season. I don't watch Jersey Shore because I have no interest in that kind of stupidity, and I'm certainly not going to watch this.

                        As for the F Word- that's a great show. I don't know if they're going to show it here either (Canada) but I certainly hope they do. That is the "real" Gordon Ramsay.

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                          coney with everything RE: maisonbistro Jun 6, 2012 05:15 AM

                          " I don't watch Jersey Shore because I have no interest in that kind of stupidity, and I'm certainly not going to watch this."

                          Exactly. I think the only reason people watch at all is because everything else is in reruns.

                          1. re: maisonbistro
                            Joanie RE: maisonbistro Jun 6, 2012 07:22 AM

                            I'm surprised you can be a staunch Ramsay fan when he's been like this for however many seasons. Yes he's different on some other shows but for me, this overshadows everything else and it somehow keeps getting worse.

                            1. re: Joanie
                              maisonbistro RE: Joanie Jun 6, 2012 08:50 AM

                              Joanie- I think he is a talented chef, and if you watch the F Word or another one of his BBC shows (the name escapes me- Britain's best restaurant or something like that)- you get a sense of who he really is- or even Master Chef. The American network (Fox) has turned this how into a joke- HK that is. I wonder how much input he has in the contestant selection- I would be surprised if it were significant. He has been the same throughout the seasons, it's the choice of contestants that has completely gone to pot. It's the direction the show has been taking - you can't compare the first few seasons to the last or what this one is turning into. He's lost a viewer but not a fan. I will watch Master Chef though and look forward to it.

                              1. re: maisonbistro
                                chris2269 RE: maisonbistro Jun 6, 2012 01:34 PM

                                Agree watch the BBC shows mentioned F Word, UK version of Kitchen Nightmares, or Ramsey's best Restaurant and it shows him in a different light. Also watch the Documentaries Boiling Point and Beyond Boiling Point.

                                Masterchef US looks more promising this season but it has a lot to live up to VS the AU, NZ, and UK versions. We just love our drama via editing,

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                                  LindaWhit RE: chris2269 Jun 6, 2012 04:53 PM

                                  Well, the MARKETING people love the drama via editing.

                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                    chris2269 RE: LindaWhit Jun 6, 2012 05:02 PM

                                    Agree, how can you go to a commerial break without dramatic music and fire right? I'd forget to run to the bathroom if it wasn't for that.

                                    Thanks for all the recaps by the way much love:)

                                  2. re: chris2269
                                    Joanie RE: chris2269 Jun 7, 2012 04:35 AM

                                    As I said, I know most of the other shows and agree he's a different person but the way he is on Kitchen Nightmares overshadows any of those redeeming qualities for me. The show is obviously an interesting premise but the fact that he allows himself to act like that (you can't even say "be portrayed like that" cuz he's obviously doing all that yelling and swearing) just completely turns me off of him. All IMHO of course.

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                            jujuthomas RE: mizzdee Jun 6, 2012 12:40 PM

                            it's ridiculous, formulaic and silly - DH and I watch it, munch our popcorn and predict... who will go home, who will mess up next, what Ramsey will scream... it could be a drinking game if it wasn't a week night! ;)

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                              maisonbistro RE: jujuthomas Jun 6, 2012 01:36 PM

                              make it a drinking game and invite me! I'll bring the tequila or vodka- choose your poison LOL

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                              libgirl2 RE: mizzdee Jun 7, 2012 08:03 AM

                              I am not watching it, but let me guess... someone either burned the risotto or the scallops... or both were raw??

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                                Cheese Boy RE: libgirl2 Jun 7, 2012 09:58 AM

                                Yep, the menu is basically unchanged.
                                The John Dory is long gone, the Beef Wellington is still around, the risotto and scallop catastrophes still occur, yada yada yada. I think Gordon should introduce CHICKEN to the menu. It would make for interesting and humorous television.

                                1. re: Cheese Boy
                                  LindaWhit RE: Cheese Boy Jun 7, 2012 10:10 AM

                                  "Oh no, not again!"

                                  ::::GR smacks hands against the pass counter and sighs heavily::::

                                  "Look at this, just LOOK at this!"

                                  :::Calling out to the sweating jamokes in the kitchen::::

                                  "ALL of you, come over here! Come on, get OVER here!"

                                  :::everyone finally shuffles over as if they hadn't heard him the first 5 times he screamed at them::::

                                  "LOOK at this. LOOK AT THIS! Touch it. Go on, TOUCH IT!"

                                  :::everyone touches the chicken::::

                                  "Cut it open - What do you see? IT'S RAW! You DONKEYS!"

                                  :::GR throws plate on the floor, breaking it::::

                                  "Get BACK to your stations! You can't even cook chicken correctly! GO ON! Get OUT of my face!"


                                  Like that kind of interesting and humorous television, Cheese Boy? ;-)

                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                    tonifi RE: LindaWhit Jun 7, 2012 10:26 AM

                                    yep, yep, yep. HK this season looks particularly annoying...they seem to be choosing contestants based almost entirely on trashy behavior...the in-the-face-screaming is something I can find on almost any reality show, that isn't what I am interested in. MC, however, which is more about the food, is by far more interesting to me. I saw some promising, likable contestants, and I'm already inspired by the dishes presented by a couple of them. HK may have run it's course if it is resorting to these tactics. More food, please, less silliness.

                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                      Cheese Boy RE: LindaWhit Jun 7, 2012 11:02 PM

                                      Linda I'm laughing to myself because I do find that sort of thing funny even though I've heard it a thousand times. Now, seeing raw Chicken Shakes being served up after an unsuccessful dinner service ... THAT would be funny. I had a friend who said something like that happened in college to a group of dorm residents and they were forced to defecate in urinals and sinks because the "results" were so sudden and so bad. It's quite an image if you think about it.

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                                        Kat RE: LindaWhit Jun 9, 2012 07:28 PM


                                        1. re: LindaWhit
                                          madeliner RE: LindaWhit Jun 12, 2012 01:53 PM

                                          That sums it up perfectly! It really is a bad show-used to be ok but now-gawd-train wreck, and the cast? sheesh

                                          Like others here I do like MC (what's with that JoeB tho? is he a snob or what-he acts so above it all)

                                      2. re: libgirl2
                                        turnerm3 RE: libgirl2 Jun 12, 2012 02:22 PM

                                        :) I do the cooking in my family.. my husband eats it. I told him to set up some episodes online today and he said, "I could be a chef after watching these shows." I replied, "Oh yeah, what would you cook?". His reply? "Scallops with risotto." Love it.

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                                        Worldwide Diner RE: mizzdee Jun 11, 2012 08:05 PM

                                        Barbie's not a good cook, she deserves some flack but probably not as much as she's getting. Initially I thought Dana (the cooking instructor) could stay above the fray but I was wrong. I don't know what it is about Dana but her confessionals seem really insincere? I think the strongest chefs on each team are Christine and Patrick. Robyn, despite her rather trashy attitude, seems like a competent cook. I was wondering what would've happened if the private jet went down with Gordo and the female team....I'd miss Hell's Kitchen for maybe 5 seconds.

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                                        1. re: Worldwide Diner
                                          calliope_nh RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 11, 2012 08:38 PM

                                          Don't you think that if you taught yourself one thing before going on the show, you would learn to cook scallops? Ramsey even has a how to video on YouTube.
                                          I am giving up after tonight. I don't have anyone to root for, send them all home and let me watch Master Chef.

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                                            mamachef RE: calliope_nh Jun 11, 2012 10:42 PM

                                            LOL. I'm with you calliope. At least MC merits an hour and a bag of extra-butter popcorn! :)

                                            1. re: calliope_nh
                                              maisonbistro RE: calliope_nh Jun 13, 2012 06:33 AM

                                              I found it very very interesting that in last night's episode of MC, for the last challenge where the judges had to present the dish that instills the most fear in them- two of the three were things that Gordon expects the chefs in HK to get perfect every time- Joe presented a risotto and Gordon himself presented beef wellington.

                                              I am actually starting to resent HK for treating the viewing audience like a bunch of idiots- I mean all of a sudden this week, Barbie isn't even on the radar. One week everyone and their 3rd cousin is gunning for her, this week it's Barbie who? and it seems like next week it's someone else...

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                                              Worldwide Diner RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 12, 2012 12:45 PM

                                              I think someone loses a finger tonight - if I had to guess, it's the guy that was in the Israeli army.

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                                                coney with everything RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 13, 2012 05:31 AM

                                                he howled like he'd been shot but it looked more like a paper cut...

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                                                  Worldwide Diner RE: coney with everything Jun 13, 2012 07:02 AM

                                                  Yup, a nick on his finger and he screamed like someone is eating his face off or castrating him by squeezing his balls.

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                                                Worldwide Diner RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 13, 2012 10:49 AM

                                                Is Dana really low enough to sabotage someone by putting something in their food?

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                                                turnerm3 RE: mizzdee Jun 12, 2012 02:17 PM

                                                I love Hell's Kitchen, Kitchen Nightmares, Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares, the F word, Master Chef, and Ramsay's Best Restaurant. Gordan is quite different for the American audience, but I enjoy the variety. I happen to enjoy a "good reality show" so Hell's Kitchen fills that TV spot for me. No, Hell's Kitchen isn't really a food show at all. It's a drama and I enjoy it for that. I suppose I could watch The Bachelorette or Survivor for it, but I like my Hell's Kitchen fix. If you take it for what it's worth (and care to watch that sort of thing), Hell's Kitchen is still that - DRAMA.

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                                                1. re: turnerm3
                                                  Bobfrmia RE: turnerm3 Jun 12, 2012 07:27 PM

                                                  I still watch it, but I would call it a comedy.
                                                  These people make me laugh my ass off.

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                                                  madeliner RE: mizzdee Jun 14, 2012 10:39 AM

                                                  is that 'tough' girl with the bandana an old contestant? she looks familiar sort of

                                                  1. ritabwh RE: mizzdee Jun 15, 2012 11:50 AM

                                                    who is the asian woman? i am sure i have seen her on another show?

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                                                    1. re: ritabwh
                                                      ritabwh RE: ritabwh Jun 15, 2012 11:54 AM

                                                      wait! i'm sorry!!! got confused with another show...around the world.

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                                                      Worldwide Diner RE: mizzdee Jun 19, 2012 07:14 AM

                                                      Trying to keep up who's friends with who.

                                                      Robyn and Barbie looked like pals on Monday 6/18

                                                      Kimmie and Tiffany look like they're friends - in the mean time, drunk Tiffany is telling Kimmie that Dani, Dana, and Christina are talking trash about Kimmie when it was Royce who was trashing Kimmie's taco.

                                                      Dani, Dana, and Christina are tight but Dani is a clown and will likely get the book. Drama continues tonight.

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                                                      1. re: Worldwide Diner
                                                        maisonbistro RE: Worldwide Diner Jun 19, 2012 11:53 AM

                                                        The friendships are as fickle as the wellington and risotto. The editing makes it so. You literally can't believe anything you see, because it changes, without explanation from one week to the next. Barbie hasn't had a target on her back since the first 2 episodes when she was deemed the devil - for no obvious reason.

                                                        Gordon, Gordon, Gordon.... this isn't what we want. We don't want Jersey Shore cooks, or Kardashian kitchen....

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                                                          Cheese Boy RE: maisonbistro Jun 19, 2012 12:48 PM

                                                          Jersey Shore, you can keep that ALL to yourself. Now if you could wave a magic wand and turn Kimmie into Kim (Kardashian), I would be very grateful.

                                                          1. re: Cheese Boy
                                                            maisonbistro RE: Cheese Boy Jun 19, 2012 05:24 PM

                                                            That's what I meant- if I wanted Jersey Shore antics, I would watch the Jersey Shore. Never have, and can safely say, never will. As far as turning Kimmie into Kim. Yeah, ummm - not touching that one LOL.

                                                      2. ennuisans RE: mizzdee Jun 19, 2012 09:23 PM

                                                        So Monday's elimination was delayed until Tuesday's episode, which itself is part one of a two-parter to be finished, I'm assuming, next Monday. Maybe next season they'll just end each episode with someone dangling from a cliff or encircled by sharks.

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                                                          coney with everything RE: ennuisans Jun 20, 2012 05:04 AM

                                                          The contrived cliffhangers are completely annoying IMO.

                                                          Although dangling them from a cliff...sharks...that has potential.

                                                          1. re: coney with everything
                                                            Cheese Boy RE: coney with everything Jun 20, 2012 09:27 AM

                                                            Cliffs, sharks, Kim Kardashian wearing only a white apron and chasing Gordon with a large bitter melon ... ALL has potential. Truth be told, I'm finding the present format of HK a bit taxing with all the ghetto and so-called "street" references. The MC hour that follows is much more pleasant to watch -- it's Gordon (somewhat) TRANSFORMED.

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                                                          Alfred G RE: mizzdee Jun 20, 2012 11:22 AM

                                                          I was surprised to learn that Roshni was a winner on Chopped. I haven't been that impressed with her.

                                                          Meanwhile, HK is the best comedy on television.

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                                                          1. re: Alfred G
                                                            Worldwide Diner RE: Alfred G Jun 20, 2012 11:26 AM

                                                            There have been other contestants in the past that are well established chefs but they look like idiots on HK. I don't get it.

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                                                              dbrodbeck RE: Alfred G Jun 20, 2012 12:08 PM

                                                              I KNEW I had seen her before.

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                                                              madeliner RE: mizzdee Jun 20, 2012 08:14 PM

                                                              worst cast ever!

                                                              I am for sure not a snob but heck-gross out! all of them, just gross

                                                              if I want to see tatts and sweat (well I don't want to) this would be the best place to see it.

                                                              is there anyone with any class or intelligence on the show?

                                                              best I think is roshi

                                                              I like-dana too

                                                              and I like roshi too

                                                              the rest? ugh!!!

                                                              stupid and disgusting is all I can say-I feel icky even watching this now-I used to like it sort of

                                                              if dana or roshi advance I will keep watching otherwise - ick ! no!

                                                              (shoot I know I will)

                                                              master chef isn't bad tho

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