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June 2012 COTM, The Homesick Texan: Beef, Pork, and Fowl; Seafood

L.Nightshade May 31, 2012 09:19 PM

Please use this thread to report on the following chapters from the June Cookbook of the Month:

Beef, Pork, and Fowl, pages 187 - 215
Seafood, pages 221 - 246

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    MelMM Jun 1, 2012 12:26 PM

    Campechana (Mexican Seafood Cocktail), p. 222

    This isn't Goode Company's recipe, which has been published elsewhere. Nor is it a standard seafood cocktail recipe like you would find in restaurants throughout Texas. Goode's recipe is ketchup based, and would therefore be sweeter than this one. What you find in most restaurants is also sweeter, and lacks the green olives. My own version has more lime than this one, and some sugar. Another thing unusual about this version is the chipotle in adobo. An odd thing to add to a seafood cocktail, to my mind. Chiles, yes; smoked chiles... maybe not.

    The recipe calls for fresh tomatoes or canned fire roasted tomatoes (which pretty much means Muir Glen tomatoes, doesn't it? So why not just say so?). If using fresh tomatoes, you are instructed to put them under the broiler for "a couple of minutes" on each side "until blackened". I have good tomatoes available now, so I went with fresh. The tomatoes did not even begin to blacken after two minutes per side, so I let them go longer. There is no instruction on whether or not to skin the tomatoes. I left the skins on the ones I pureed, and took the skin off the one I diced, as it was a bit leathery.

    So, 1.5 cups of the tomatoes go in the blender (now we're in cups, when we were in pounds. Why?). My pound of tomatoes was three, so I put two in the blender and diced one. Why should I dice tomatoes that are going to get blended? The chipotle in adobo goes in the blender too. This puree is mixed with chopped green olives, cilantro, onions, minced garlic, serrano chile, and cumin (I would not normally put cumin in a seafood cocktail, and neither would Goode Company, if the recipe in the Houston Chronicle is to be believed). You then gently stir in shrimp, crabmeat, and avocado. I used two avocados instead of the one called for, because mine were very small, and I love avocado. And you serve with tortilla chips.

    This is quite a bit different from my recipe, which is a sweeter, but also tarter, version, and without the smokiness of the chipotle and definitely without the cumin. But this version makes for a really nice dish. One common fault of these cocktails is that they end up too saucy. This looks like a lot of sauce, but once you add the shrimp, crab and avocado, it isn't too much at all. The seafood is nicely coated with the sauce, without the whole dish becoming soupy. I used smaller shrimp, but the same total weight as called for. As with the Pico de Gallo, I wouldn't normally use cumin, but the small amount here is hardly noticeable. All in all, I would recommend this dish, especially if you have never had a Mexican seafood cocktail, which, IMHO, no matter what version you make, beats the American version hands down.

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      MelMM Jun 1, 2012 12:35 PM

      Forgot to note, there is no salt called for in this recipe. If you use canned tomatoes, they would have salt in them, so no problem. But if you use fresh, as I did, you probably want to add some salt.

      1. re: MelMM
        herby Jun 1, 2012 07:50 PM

        MeIMM, would you be so kind and post your seafood cocktail recipe? I am making Mexican dinner tomorrow including ceviche - seafood cocktail would be a lovely addition.

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          MelMM Jun 2, 2012 07:48 AM

          Well, I guess I shouldn't have said "my recipe", because that implies that there is a recipe.

          The sauce I use starts with a can (the small size can, 8 oz, I think) of tomato sauce (not a pasta sauce, just plain tomato sauce). To that, I add a dash of worcestershire sauce, a tiny dab of mustard (maybe 1/2 tsp), a few shakes of hot sauce, and then lime juice and sugar to taste. Start with the juice of one lime, and a tablespoon of sugar, and go from there. It takes some tasting and adjusting to get it just right.

          Into this sauce, I stir in fresh diced tomato, chopped cilantro, and a minced jalepeno or serrano chile (or two, depending upon my mood and how hot they are). And some onion, in a fine dice - not too much, as you don't want to overwhelm the seafood. Then I mix in the seafood, which is usually just shrimp, but can include shrimp, crab, oysters, octopus... whatever's good. I don't usually measure it, but about a pound of seafood. I guess I should mention that the shrimp would be cooked, shelled shrimp. Oysters would be raw. Octopus would be cooked, and cut up. And finally, gently stir in some avocado, diced in 1/2" cubes. I like avocado, so I use a large one, or if they are small, two. I serve with extra lime wedges and hot sauce on the side.

          Because of the avocado, this doesn't hold well. Well, it will taste just fine, but gets an ugly muddy brown. You can make it an hour or two in advance, and put cling wrap right down on the surface, but not, say, a day ahead.

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          The Dairy Queen Jun 2, 2012 08:03 AM

          So, do you still prefer your recipe or do you consider this a fairly equal alternative?

          ~TDQ

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            MelMM Jun 2, 2012 10:21 AM

            To me, they are two different dishes, not two recipes for the same thing, so they don't have to compete with one another. I liked her seafood cocktail, and would make it again when I want a less sweet, more savory version. I will also continue to make my seafood cocktail.

            I do think I like her version of the Goode Company cocktail better than other recipes (even Goode's recipe). Other recipes are ketchup-based, and therefore would be sweeter, and I see that as a clash with the green olives. If I want to make a sweeter dish, I'll use my version without the olives, and heavy on the lime and avocado.

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              The Dairy Queen Jun 2, 2012 08:01 PM

              Interesting! I think I'd prefer more savory... Might be fun to compare though! Thanks!

              ~TDQ

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          TxnInMtl Jun 2, 2012 08:08 AM

          Pasilla Tomatillo Braised Short Ribs - p. 195

          I had some beef short ribs hiding in the freezer and this recipe jumped out at me due to my love of tomatillo. I've never noticed boneless short ribs for sale here, so I used bone-in. I also had no where near 4 lbs (even with the bone), so I scaled the sauce in half. Fresh tomatillos are difficult to get here, although we were lucky enough to have some in our CSA box at the end of last summer, so I used canned tomatillos (I think one 400ml can is close to a half pound). The aroma from this dish is wonderful and the meat came out perfectly moist. These will be repeated at some point. We shredded it and had it in tacos.

          To make, pasilla chiles are toasted, soaked, and then diced. The short ribs are browned in oil, lard, or bacon grease (I went with bacon grease) and then removed from heat. Diced onions are cooked in the grease, and then tomatillos are added followed by garlic. The ribs get put back in along with beer (I used Boreale blonde), the diced pasillas, cumin, cayenne, and half of the chopped cilantro. It simmers covered for 1.5 hours. The lid rid is removed, more cilantro added, and it's simmered for another 1.5 hours. Top with a bit of lime juice and serve.

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            Breadcrumbs Jun 2, 2012 08:19 AM

            I'm so excited to hear these came out well Txn, I'm making them tomorrow as we LOVE short ribs. Like you, I will be using the bone-in version. I can't imagine making short ribs without the bone as its the marrow that adds the sweet rich flavour to the broth. Can't wait!! Thanks for posting!

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              Breadcrumbs Jun 3, 2012 06:42 PM

              Pasilla Tomatillo Braised Short Ribs – p. 195

              Huge thanks to TxnMtl for covering this so well above and for suggesting the use of tinned tomatillos because, as it turned out, I wasn’t able to get any fresh from our market either so I too used a 14oz tin. (drained). As you’ll see from my photos, I also used bone-in short ribs because that’s what the butcher sells and, the bone is really what this cut is all about, isn’t it?!

              Our beer of choice was an Innis & Gunn Canadian Cask – a full-bodied, oak aged ale. Since LF indicates you may use beer, beef broth or water I opted to use one bottle of the I&G and some homemade beef broth. Following TxnMtl’s lead and insights regarding the cumin (of which mr bc isn’t the biggest fan in the first place), I omitted it. This dish was aromatic and enticing as it simmered away atop the stovetop. Since my liquids did not cover the meat, I opted not to completely uncover the pot for the final 90 min simmer as I didn’t want the meat to dry out.

              mr bc & I really enjoyed this dish. I shredded the meat in some of the stock and made tacos topped w Monterey Jack cheese and some of the coleslaw from this book whereas mr bc preferred to enjoy the ribs served whole atop some steamed rice. Were these the best short ribs we’ve ever had? No. Were they tasty? Yes. I particularily liked the tang that the tomatillos brought to the mix, a very nice contrast to counter the richness of the meat. The spritz of lime stirred in at the final stage of cooking further enhanced these flavours. I did need to salt my final dish prior to serving.

              Slaw review here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8519...

               
               
               
               
              1. re: Breadcrumbs
                blue room Jun 3, 2012 07:13 PM

                Beautiful meaty short ribs!
                I had to look up "pasilla" -- I'll never keep all the chiles straight.

              2. re: TxnInMtl
                Tom P Jul 14, 2012 09:30 AM

                Oh My. I made this on the recommendation of TxnInMtl. I would have passed over them otherwise. I was unsure as I was cooking, as they did not seem to have a ton of flavor. But as with this type of dish, besides cooking them a long time, I made them the day before. Wow. The next day, voila. Not spicy just rich and flavorful. But not really heavy, if that makes sense. We served them with tortillas but they would be amazing over rice as well. Thanks TxnInMtl from your fellow misplaced Txn!

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                  TxnInMtl Jul 14, 2012 09:50 AM

                  I'm so glad you enjoyed it. The best part of COTM for me is discovering gems that I had skipped over. I saw your recommendation for the stacked enchiladas and hope to find time to give that a try soon!

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                    Tom P Jul 14, 2012 01:44 PM

                    you must :) And let us know what you think!

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                TxnInMtl Jun 2, 2012 08:18 AM

                Jalapeno Mustard Roast Chicken - p. 205

                This was my first time spatchcocking a chicken and it worked great. The skin came out nice and crispy and the meat was still moist. The marinade was good. Yellow mustard isn't my favorite, but I didn't find the flavor overwhelming. The jalapeno added just a hint of heat and the honey rounded it out nicely.

                A marinade of mustard, jalapeno, lime juice, garlic, cilantro, ground ginger, cumin, and honey is mixed together in a blender or FP (I used FP). If I repeat this, I might go with fresh ginger instead. The spine is removed from the chicken with shears. The chicken is salted and rubbed with the marinade. We had to wait to remove the spine until after it had marinated because it was still a bit frozen when I needed to start it. She says you can marinate for up to 8 hours, but I went ahead and did overnight because I'm always running late in the mornings. The flattened chicken bakes at 400F until juices run clear, rest, and serve.

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                  TxnInMtl Jun 2, 2012 08:25 AM

                  Mexican Red Chorizo - p. 213

                  This recipe can be used throughout the book in place of store-bought chorizo. I wish I had learned this a while ago, because it's hard for me to find Mexican chorizo here. I usually end up substituting for other Latin American chorizos after making the trek to the Latin American market., but the dried chiles are much more convenient for me to find. If you make your own, you also don't have to worry about removing it from its casing which I've always disliked doing for some reason. She suggests that you can make larger batches and freeze the excess which I may have to start doing.

                  To make, guajillo and ancho chiles are toasted and soaked. They're then blended with apple cider vinegar and chopped onions and garlic until smooth. The puree is mixed with ground pork along with cinnamon, cumin, paprika (I used hickory smoked), dried oregano (I used Mexican), cayenne powder, and kosher salt. Ideally, you let it sit to meld for a while.

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                  1. re: TxnInMtl
                    blue room Jun 13, 2012 09:20 AM

                    TxnInMtl, I made the chorizo too, liked it very much. I noticed though that both my (good!) store-bought chorizo AND the chorizo in Robb Walsh's "Tex-Mex" both use red wine vinegar, not apple cider vinegar. Which do you use -- or does it really make a difference?

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                      TxnInMtl Jun 13, 2012 10:06 AM

                      I used apple cider vinegar, but this was my first time making my own chorizo. I'll have to try it with red wine vinegar next time and compare, although I'm not sure how noticeable it would be with all of the other spices in there. Thanks for bringing that up.

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                    smtucker Jun 2, 2012 05:42 PM

                    Carnitas
                    page 201
                    http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2008/07/carnitas-houston-style.html

                    Looking at this page in the book and comparing it to the online version is interesting. The online version calls for 1 cup of orange juice and salt. I modified the recipe to 3/4 cup orange juice, 1/4 cup lime juice, cumin, and salt. Rather funny since that is what the book calls for! Her online version gives credit to Diane Kennedy. Maybe she modified the recipe so it wasn't an exact replica?

                    But let me back up. For some reason my husband has taken to waking up with the birds, even before the sun has crested over the Atlantic. I am not this foolish. Today, by the time I awoke he had already been to the Market Basket. He had bought something called "Pork Sirloin." This cut, unlike most at the Market Basket, was small. He also bought some tomatoes, serrano peppers, cilantro and a red onion. Looking very pleased with himself, he announced that he wanted CARNITAS.

                    As I pulled out my standard carnitas recipe I remembered that this was Homesick Texan month and altered the plan. This mystery cut didn't have much fat at all so I scrounged around the freezer and found a packet of pork fat I keep for making sausages. I cut the meat into 2 inch cubes and let the meat hang out with some cumin, ancho chili powder and salt for a few hours.

                    As mentioned above, I modified the juice content. I modified so much I almost didn't review this recipe, but it turns out she came up with the same modifications!

                    I simmer the meat after bringing to a boil for an extra half hour and then started the second cooking process. Before the meat had totally browned it was clear that I didn't have enough fat. Not enough at all. I added some peanut oil to bring it to a finish.

                    Served with Rick Bayless's Roasted Tomato and Arbol salsa (http://www.rickbayless.com/recipe/vie...), cured cabbage with lime, pico de gallo, homemade tortillas, and black beans on the side.

                    I liked these flavors a lot but I might prefer Rick Bayless' cooking method which uses the oven at two different temperatures which allows you to do other things while the pork does its thing.

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                      blue room Jun 2, 2012 06:12 PM

                      Ah carnitas is one of the recipes I want to do for sure this month -- the online description sounds *so* good. It also seems very likely to freeze well.

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                        smtucker Jun 2, 2012 06:18 PM

                        If I were freezing, I might get the meat to the tender stage and then freeze portions that could be fried after thawing. I bet this would allow you to retain the texture of the meat and get that "just cooked" flavor. Best of both worlds.

                        1. re: smtucker
                          blue room Jun 2, 2012 06:40 PM

                          Great idea, which wouldn't have occured to me -- thanks very much!

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                        shallots Jun 2, 2012 06:19 PM

                        I've used her Carnitas recipe from the book and it pleased Mr. Shallots greatly who is somewhat addicted to a Carnitas burrito (with tomatillo sauce and a melted white Mexican cheese at our favorite Mexican restaurant.) The restaurant says they use dark beer in their simmering, but we like her recipe for making at home.

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                          blue room Jun 2, 2012 06:45 PM

                          Oh wow, dear Dios that burrito sounds great to me too!

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                          JaneEYB Jun 11, 2012 03:08 PM

                          Carnitas p.201

                          I hadn't made the version on her blog and in fact have never made carnitas before (being a Brit who now lives in New England). It was so easy to do though it takes a long time to cook. I was using half quantity of meat but kept the liquids in the same quantity as the recipe since I couldn't see a pan with no lid could keep that amount of liquid for 2.75 hours. I was glad I did as I cooked it for less time (I made my cubes smaller than 2 inches) and the liquid was all gone. The result was very tasty though I think I should have left more fat on the meat for the final stage of crisping.

                          I served it with flour tortillas and and Houston-style green salsa (p.59)

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                            Westminstress Jun 13, 2012 07:55 AM

                            Carnitas

                            Wonderful! I used a combination of the recipes found here: http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/2008/07/carnitas-houston-style.html and here: http://smittenkitchen.com/2011/11/hom...

                            For three pounds of pork I used 3 cups of water, 1/2 cup orange juice, 1/4 cup lime juice, 2 tsp salt, 1 tsp cumin, and two stalks (just the stalks, not the heads) of green garlic for aromatics. I made the carnitas on Sunday and brought it to the point where most of the liquid had simmered away, but there was still a little left and the pork had not yet started to fry in its own fat. Last night I scooped out some of the pork with juices and fat and cooked it for about 10 minutes in a hot frying pan until it was brown and crispy on the edges. By this time the pork was falling apart into shreds, which is exactly how I like my carnitas. We had it in tacos with the tomatillo-avocado salsa from the Homesick Texan website and cactus salad (both reviewed separately).

                            This was a perfect carnitas recipe. The pork was absolutely delicious and tasted completely authentic, just like the carnitas I used to get at my favorite spot in LA, which is where the best carnitas comes from if you ask me. My son loved it too. Raves all around. Of course the real credit goes to Diana Kennedy. Still, I wouldn't have tried this recipe if not for this month's COTM, and I will be repeating it for sure!

                            It's funny, I only ever tried to make carnitas one time previously, I think from a Rick Bayless recipe, and I didn't like it nearly as much. This was carnitas perfection for me.

                            Even if you've given up on this book generally, don't miss out on this recipe!

                            1. re: Westminstress
                              blue room Jun 13, 2012 10:48 AM

                              We (my household, not Chowhound) have had just a little too much (delicious) pork lately, but I'm glad to see your review right in line with the last two that liked this. Sounds like this one shines.
                              By the by, best wishes and warm welcomes for your almost-here little one!

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                                Westminstress Jun 13, 2012 02:11 PM

                                Thanks, blue room! Just a couple of weeks to go....

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                                Sarah Jul 14, 2012 10:53 AM

                                My pork never got soft enough to shred, much less fall into shreds. Wonder if it was the cut of meat I used - country style ribs...
                                Posted my results awhile back, but it's disappeared!

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                              MelMM Jun 4, 2012 04:19 AM

                              Tex-Mex Meatloaf with Chipotle-Tomato Glaze, p.196

                              Unlike the other things I've made so far, I do not have my own "way" with meatloaf. It is possible that I've made meatloaf before, but if I have, I can't remember it. It isn't something I ate much growing up, and it's never been something I've had much interesting in making (or eating). Mr. MM, on the other hand, grew up in the mid-west, and ate plenty of meatloaf. On occasion he has mentioned that it would be nice to have some for dinner, but I have ignored him. This recipe called out to me as a way to satisfy his craving, and get a meatloaf that I might actually like. Plus I had leftover ground beef from making the enchilada sauce, and it needed to be used up.

                              The recipe has you make a glaze for the top by blending up some canned tomatoes with a chipotle, lime juice, allspice, and garlic. The meatloaf mix is beef with a little bit of chorizo added, some sauteed onion and garlic, cilantro, crushed up tortilla chips, eggs, oregano, cumin, worcestershire sauce, black pepper and salt. I only had 3/4 lb of ground beef (half of what is called for), and it is extremely lean, grass-feed beef, so I upped the amount of chorizo in my mix to 6 oz. I also used a hot chorizo (in my market, it comes in hot and mild) to get a spicier meatloaf. I used ground Mexican oregano, in a reduced quantity.

                              You are supposed to make this into a meatloaf, top with half of the glaze, and bake at 350 for 50 minutes, then top with the rest of the glaze and bake 10 minutes more. I deviated some more from the recipe here, and baked mine on my Big Green Egg. I also reduced the cooking time a bit as I had a somewhat smaller meatloaf.

                              I don't have much to compare this to, as my lifetime meatloaf consumption has been so low, but I liked it pretty well. Mr. MM liked it a lot! So we were both pretty happy with this recipe, and if he starts asking for meatloaf again, this is the one I'll pull out. With the increased amount of hot chorizo, this definitely had a kick to it, but if you made it as written I don't think it would be particularly spicy. I'll stick with my kicked-up version. Served with leftover Red Chile Rice (p. 276) and squash from the garden.

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                                oakjoan Jun 4, 2012 04:01 PM

                                I just started to post a comment asking where the "Dios" recipe could be found. Just as I was about to send it, I realized what a bozo I am...."Dear Dios" means "Dear God" and it was a comment, not a recipe.

                                Dios mio, soy un grande cretino!

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                                  shallots Jun 4, 2012 05:13 PM

                                  Because I had some of the ingredients, I made this tonight.

                                  First, I loved the glaze. It's the first time I've tried a non-BBQ sauce coating and it was a great improvement. I also used the glaze instead of catsup or BBQ sauce with the sliced loaf.

                                  I sort of made her loaf. My predominant meat was ground venison, which is always very low fat. I didn't have chorizo, or any thawed out pork so I used some Benton bacon ends and added pinched of the seasoning she uses with her home made red chorizo. As I mixed the meat, it still felt really dry, so I added some more bacon fat. I followed the rest of her ingredients.

                                  It's definitely a plus recipe. It's better than my basic and Mr. Shallots liked it a lot. I think it will go into my rotation of things I make with ground venison that have great spices so I don't taste the game-iness of the venison.

                                2. Gio Jun 4, 2012 06:21 AM

                                  Roasted Mayonnaise Chicken with Chipotle
                                  http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/201...

                                  I have no idea whether or not this recipe is included in The Book but it was the perfect thing to cook after the overload of BBC America's presentation of the Queen's flotilla procession on the Thames. IOW, quick and easy. I used the MFP to create the tasty slather of mayo/lime zest/4 canned chipotles/cilantro/1 whole teaspoon cumin/cayenne/4 skin-on chicken quarters.

                                  It took just about one hour for the meat to cook to our liking: tender and very juicy. Served with a simple tossed romaine and tomato salad. But... also used a slice of artisan crusty bread to mop up those delicious juices... probably not the healthiest thing to do but so good.

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                                    GardenFresh Jun 7, 2012 06:17 PM

                                    Roasted Mayonnaise Chicken with Chipotle (website)

                                    Just made this tonight, and as Gio said, very easy.

                                    I decided to serve it with HT's carrot-raisin salad and what has become my family's favorite side dish this past winter, a stove top riff on Mexican corn on the cob... so basically dinner ended up being an ode to mayo haha. Given that, I decided to start with making my own mayo (the awesome small-batch method with the stick blender).

                                    I ended up having 8 drumsticks (double the recipe from the website), but I found that the sauce amount didn't need to be doubled. Next time I would say for 8 drummies, 2/3 c. mayo at the most would be enough. I had to go light on the chipotles as some members of my family don't like things too spicy, and had to omit the cilantro entirely for those same people (good thing I love them...).

                                    Mine only took about 40 minutes to cook, and they were beautifully browned on top, but I found the skin itself to be pretty flabby – Gio were yours crispy? Overall, I'd say this would be good if I had been able to use as much spice as I'd like, and I bet the cilantro would have made a big difference. As is, not sure I would bother to make this for the same group, but maybe I will experiment with the technique. I do love mayo after all!

                                  2. jpr54_1 Jun 7, 2012 06:27 AM

                                    Dr. Pepper Ribs
                                    page #199

                                    I followed most of the recipe with the exceptions of using dried chipoltes which I ground
                                    and made half of the recipe bcz I am a widowed, retired , living alone since son and d-i-l
                                    live in NJ.
                                    The recipe was easy to follow-cooked them a little longer
                                    I will definely make it again-not too sweet

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                                      Breadcrumbs Jun 12, 2012 06:30 AM

                                      Dr Pepper Ribs – p. 199

                                      Disappointing. There’s potential here but this version of the recipe was far too hot for us. The heat was so overpowering that we simply didn’t want to continue eating the ribs. We definitely enjoy hot, spicy food but something about this just didn’t work for us. I see that jpr had a positive experience so perhaps it was just my ingredients…maybe my black pepper was super-hot? I have no idea and look forward to seeing how others make out w this dish.

                                      The recipe appears on LF’s website and I’ll paste the link below and save covering the prep other than to add the following:

                                      • LF’s rub calls for ¼ cup salt and ¼ cup pepper. Not sure if the latter contributed to the over-bearing heat of our dish but I’d cut both quantities in half if I made these again
                                      • I compared LF’s recipe to others online and her use of this type of rub is unique. Most recipes call for allspice or star anise only. I’m wondering which is most traditional?
                                      • Other folks recipes for this dish call for the ribs to be placed fleshy side down in the baking dish which would allow for the meat to become infused with the Dr Pepper flavour while cooking. It would also have caused some of the rub to mix with the soda. LF has you put the ribs meat side up.
                                      • For the final 30 mins of cooking we chose to finish these on the grill

                                      These looked and smelled sensational so it was a huge disappointment to find the heat to be overpowering. The meat was tender and juicy. I would definitely make Dr Pepper ribs again, just not with this recipe.

                                      Here’s the link:

                                      http://homesicktexan.blogspot.ca/2009...

                                       
                                       
                                       
                                       
                                       
                                      1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                        blue room Jun 12, 2012 06:38 AM

                                        Breadcrumbs, could you tell it was / taste the Dr. Pepper?
                                        You know, I don't think I've ever seen a recipe that calls for *equal* amouts of salt and pepper! Doesn't seem right.

                                        1. re: blue room
                                          Breadcrumbs Jun 12, 2012 06:50 AM

                                          No, we definitely wouldn't have known there was Dr Pepper in the sauce blue room. Because it simmers, the flavours were quite homogenous. Like you, I don't recall seeing a 50/50 S&P mix in a rub either though I have to say that mr bc is our rib rub expert...I'm usually just the taster!!

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                                          smtucker Jun 12, 2012 07:15 AM

                                          A 1/4 cup of black pepper is mind-boggling! I really dislike black pepper [other peppers I love though] and just can't imagine what this must have tasted like. Actually I can, and it is not a happy thought at all.

                                          Really too bad since it appears that you cooked them perfectly.

                                          1. re: smtucker
                                            The Dairy Queen Jun 12, 2012 07:28 AM

                                            The pulled pork recipe I tried had that much pepper too. I hand-ground it all in my pepper mill and thought it was going to kill me. I didin't notice that the end product seemed too peppery, but I have to admit, I might have been a little bit shy of the amount of pepper called for. Not by much, though...

                                            ~TDQ

                                            1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                              Breadcrumbs Jun 12, 2012 07:44 AM

                                              smtucker & DQ, thanks for your feedback. There seem to be a disproportionate number of issues/inconsistencies w this book than I've noticed in any other COTM I've participated in. After 13 dishes, I've had more misses than hits and have decided to move on. A first for me w a COTM. I'll put a post-mortem in the main thread w a summary of my experience. Such a shame as I had high hopes for all the delicious-looking dishes in this book.

                                            2. re: smtucker
                                              jpr54_1 Jun 12, 2012 02:42 PM

                                              I didn't use all the pepper and salt-plus I used a dried chipolte pepper which I ground.
                                              I also didn't taste the Dr.Pepper.

                                          2. re: jpr54_1
                                            t
                                            TxnInMtl Jun 20, 2012 04:41 AM

                                            Dr Pepper Ribs – p. 199

                                            Pork ribs were on sale this weekend and I was pleasantly surprised to be able to find a bottle of Dr. Pepper at the grocery store (granted, they only had the 2L, so now I have plenty of extra Dr. Pepper), so I decided to give this one a shot. Keeping in mind Breadcrumbs complaints, I reduced the pepper a bit for the rub. I also ended up with much more rub than I needed. I didn't have chipotle powder on hand, nor did I have dried chipotles, so I just substituted with some Mexican chile powder I've been trying to get rid of before the move. I cooked the ribs in the slow cooker with the glaze on low while I was at work. The ribs came out great. Nice and tender and the sauce was quite nice. One of my friends who was over asked for the recipe and everyone cleaned their plates. I served it with a strawberry-tomato salad.

                                          3. The Dairy Queen Jun 8, 2012 11:32 AM

                                            TEXAS PULLED PORK, from the blog http://homesicktexan.blogspot.com/201...

                                            We made so many modifications it's almost not worth reporting back, but it was really good and really easy, so I'm going to report back.

                                            Recipe calls for a 4 lb picnic bone-in shoulder roast. Rub it all over with a Chipotle-Coffee rub of various spices including ground coffee, pepper, cumin, salt, brown sugar, allspice, cinnamon, paprika, chipotle powder, granulated garlic. Cover with plastic wrap and let it sit for 8 hours in the fridge. (We put it in a big ziplock baggie and let it sit overnight.)

                                            Take it out of the fridge and let it come to room temp for about a half hour.

                                            Here's where I divurged from the recipe. She saids to put it fat-side up in a roasting pan and cook it, uncovered, for 8 hours at 250. I put it in a crockpot on low with a cup of coffee for 10 hours (my roast was a little smaller, 3.75lbs I think). The fat on my roast was on one of the edges, so I just put the roast in the way it fit best because it looked silly and precarious perched on its side.

                                            After 10 hours, I pulled it out, let it sit for a half hour (she says an hour) and shredded it. I was going to make her amazing sounding BBQ sauce, but I was really tired and out of molasses. So, at that point, I just gave up and tossed the pork with a commercial BBQ sauce.

                                            Super easy, super delicious. The coffee adds a really nice depth to the whole thing. I'm sure her sauce would have been better, but sometimes you just roll with what you have. This time, it worked out. Definite keeper, even with modifications.

                                            Her spice rub recipe seems to be enough for at least two recipes, so I put half of the rub in a baggie in the freezer for the next time we make this...

                                            ~TDQ

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                                            1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                              Gio Jun 9, 2012 05:44 AM

                                              Good to read your version of this roast, TDQ. I was going to use the slow cooker too. It just makes sense...

                                            2. j
                                              JaneEYB Jun 18, 2012 06:52 AM

                                              Fancy-pants King Ranch Chicken Casserole p.202

                                              This isn't the kind of dish I would usually make so perhaps it's not surprising that I was disappointed. It wasn't that it was bad, it just wasn't worth the effort. A freshly made creamy tomato and pepper sauce is layered with shredded chicken, cheese and tortillas then baked. It was like a Tex-Mex lasagna. As I said, not bad, but I don't plan to make it again.

                                              1. t
                                                TxnInMtl Jun 20, 2012 05:16 PM

                                                Pasilla Garlic Shrimp - p. 242

                                                This was a good, solid dinner. She suggests serving the shrimp with rice, grits, or crusty bread (I went with the bread since my bf decided to bake bread last night in the midst of a heatwave), but this might also be excellent in tacos.

                                                To make, pasilla chiles are rehydrated and a simple shrimp stock is made from the shrimp shells (you'll have plenty of stock left over). This is the most time consuming part of the recipe by far and usually when I'm cooking shrimp, I want something fast, so this is what pushes this recipe out of regular rotation for me. After those are done, a sauce is made by pureeing the rehydrated chiles, cilantro (I was out and we're leaving for vacation in 2 days, so I skipped this), garlic, ginger (she calls for ground, but I used fresh), cumin, cayenne, lime juice, and shrimp stock. The chile puree is simmered with some olive oil for 10 minutes. I think we would've preferred leaving the stock to simmer for a bit longer to ensure a thicker sauce. Butter and more shrimp stock is then stirred into the mixture. She calls for 1/4 cup butter, but I used what we had left that was thawed (2 - 3 tbsp). We didn't miss the extra butter. The shrimp are then added and cooked until done.

                                                I think this would be even better with the brightness of cilantro. As it was, it was a good dinner, just not quite amazing enough for me to justify all the waiting time on a regular basis.

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