Atlanta Board (bored) [discussion moved from Atlanta board]
Why is this board so boring? Atlanta is finally being recognized as a premiere dining
destination. Yelp is constantly bombarded with idiotic rantings while a respected site
such as ChowHound is ignored.
A lot more people use Yelp than Chowhound. One possible turn-off to this site might be the slow, antiquated forum platform.
Have you tried 285foodies.com? I find the discussion and recommendations a bit more stimulating there.
Well put, Jethro.
I love Atlanta, I'm from here, but every two steps we take, we, and the local gov't push us one step back.
Fix MARTA, fix our alcohol sales, repeal the ridiculous food truck laws. The south has so much to offer and Atlanta seems to retard what could be amazing growth and prosperity culturally speaking.
Pray for ATL...
Not for nothing, but CH is user submitted content, so ranting here (or on your local board) does not present a welcoming place for new people (since the regulars are not posting) to share their experiences.
CH runs on the simple formula of You put information in and you will get information out.
CH does not allow a lot of the "bashing" of places that as Yelp does. So those who wish to rant and rave, find a home there. Those who enjoy the "drama" find a home there.
Yelp also let's self promotion by family, owners or staff as "reviews". These are quickly taken down on CH.
As for the Board of health issue, that has never been allowed on CH, as laws vary from state to state, with varying reasons for what is considered conditional or Unsatisfactory, not all of which relate to food. A post condemning a place for Unsatisfactory inspection, could greatly damage the business, and is not suited for CH which is about Food. In a similar vein, stories or rumors about legal issues, court cases etc. of is closely moderated.
It's all about the food. So start getting active on your local board, write posts, liven the place up a bit and you will find others do as well.
Yelp and Chowhound have two different business models and, when it comes to local restaurants, Yelp's business model has been shown (by it's much higher customer and user count) to be more successful.
That being said, the reason why Chowhound doesn't allow talk of any particular restaurant's health inspection score is the fear of a lawsuit by the restaurant. It sounds good to say it's because laws vary from locale to locale and you can't actually eat a health score so it has no place here, etc.. However, this very thread, the entire "Site Talk" sub-forum, "Food Media and News", "Cookware", ah yes, and the "Not About Food" sub-forums are not about anything you can eat either. However, they are about food-related topics.
A health score is a very food-related topic. Not to mention, simply sharing a fact supported with a link to the actual health inspector's health report and score for that particular restaurant involves no speculation or opinion - only fact. Again, Chowhound doesn't want to be involved in being the bad guy for sharing what some/most restaurants would rather customers/potential customers not know.
Readers who are looking for a more open and free environment of information should look to Yelp. Readers who are looking for a more sterilized and controlled environment of information should look to Chowhound.
In the end, it's doesn't really matter why Yelp is far more successful at gaining readers. The bottom line is, they are.
"That being said, the reason why Chowhound doesn't allow talk of any particular restaurant's health inspection score is the fear of a lawsuit by the restaurant..."
"...A health score...is simply sharing a fact supported with a link to the actual health inspector's health report and score for that particular restaurant involves no speculation or opinion - only fact..."
If the second part of your statement is true then first part isn't, as truth is a complete defense against libel.
Over the years, even when Jim and Bob were running CH and keeping it patched together with chewing gum and string, posts about "health code violations" or "food poisoning" were verboten not because of fear of law suits, but rather to avoid the casual "smearing" of restaurants by those with an ax to grind as well as for the simple reason that we (the posters) have been encouraged to report those types of issues to the proper city or county authorities.
Also, I don't know about other areas of the country but poor grades on health inspections here in Los Angeles can and do change overnight, and they invariably lead to the same smearing and ax grinding posts that have been avoided here for the most part.
The best way to make your local board better is to post. It helps to remember that all threads get WAY more readers than contributors....so if you post a well-written review of a restaurant, lots of people are reading it (even if no one responds). Great posts provide good examples for other hounds, who will then start responding, and hopefully post too.