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michaeljc70 May 24, 2012 01:21 PM

I sometimes buy chicken breasts with skin on, bone-in and only use the meat (for sandwiches, salad). Is it worth saving those in the freezer for stock later? I would guess that a lot of the flavor has already gone into the meat and pan from the bones.

I know I could take the meat off the bone before roasting, but the chicken does come out drier and it is much harder to debone when raw.

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    thursday May 26, 2012 02:24 PM

    I didn't know anyone made stock from raw bones. That seems like a waste of perfectly good chicken meat! =)

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      lisaonthecape May 26, 2012 02:43 PM

      I've seen recipes for both versions. Although my own preference is for stock from roasted bones, stock from raw bones can have a more delicate flavor. When I'm making risotto alla parmigiana, for example, I always dilute the stock made from roasted bones, so the chicken taste doesn't overpower the cheese.

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        Bacardi1 May 27, 2012 06:22 AM

        Not a waste at all!!!

        What I do is place a whole chicken in a large stock pot (along with vegetables, herbs, etc.), cover with water, & bring to a simmer until the meat is just cooked (depending on chicken size, usually around 45 minutes or so). I then remove the chicken, allow it to cool until I can handle it, & remove the now perfectly poached meat from the carcass, placing the skin & bones back into the pot. If I have any stray chicken bones or stock parts (backs, wings, etc., etc.) I've been saving in the freezer, I add them to the pot as well & continue simmering that stock until it's reached a concentration/flavor that I like. Strain, cool, refrigerate or freeze.

        Now I have several quarts of delicious homemade stock, as well as lovely poached chicken meat to use in any number of terrific recipes calling for cooked chicken. No waste whatsoever.

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        gfr1111 May 26, 2012 09:08 AM

        All the recipes which I have seen for stock of any kind call for roasting the bones in the oven for about forty minutes before putting the bones in water to make the stock. Are there recipes out there that do not call for the roasting? I though it was a standard requirement.

        1. Karl S May 26, 2012 07:33 AM

          Actually, stock from cooked poultry bones tends to be richer than from uncooked, so fear not...

          When I get rotisserie chix from Costco, after deboning them (so easy to so), I make a pot of stock in the pressure cooker. No reason to waste those bones whatseover.

          1. Njchicaa May 24, 2012 05:39 PM

            I make chicken stock only from cooked chicken carcasses. Maybe Ina Garten can afford to use 4 whole chickens in her stock and then throw them away, but I can't.

            Save those bones! It is amazing how much stock you can make for like $5 worth of vegetables. Last time I made what would cost me $50 at the grocery store.

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              wonderwoman May 24, 2012 08:24 PM

              i save veggie trimmings in the freezer, as well -- onion, ginger and carrot ends, along with fennel tops and fronds.

              when i have a couple of pounds of bones and a bagful of veggies, i pick up a package of chicken feet and place them along with the the bones in a roasting pan, cover with cold water and let simmer in a 250-300-degree oven for 3-4 hours, then add the veggies and simmer for another hour or 2. cool and strain.

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                weezieduzzit May 24, 2012 08:37 PM

                Good call on the feet, WW. The gelatin in them gives the stock a great mouthfeel (and bonus health benefts.)

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                  wonderwoman May 25, 2012 08:42 AM

                  what are the bonus health benefits?

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                    weezieduzzit May 25, 2012 09:10 AM

                    Chowhound doesn't like it when the conversation gets too health/medical but if you Google bone broth health or bone broth gelatin there is a ton of info.

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                    Karl S May 26, 2012 07:31 AM

                    And add a bit of vinegar to the pot, too; it helps leach the calcium from the bones into the stock.

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                    MartiniGenie May 26, 2012 01:25 PM

                    I give a thumbs up for the adding of the veggies to the stock and have separate bags in the freezer for all. Also included in the veggie bag are the outside and center of cabbage...

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                  abacus2 May 24, 2012 05:36 PM

                  I do this all the time. No one in the house likes white meat. So, after I roast a chicken and only have white meat left, I take all the white meat off the carcass. Then I simmer the carcass to make stock, then use the stock and white meat to either make chicken pot pie, or chicken noodle soup.

                  I like the chicken pot pie in the Cook's Illustrated Best Recipe book (although I use puff pastry rather than a biscuit topping) for this purpose.

                  1. boyzoma May 24, 2012 05:09 PM

                    I have several bone bags in the freezer. One for beef bones, one for pork bones and one for chicken bones. They all make great stock.

                    1. chowser May 24, 2012 04:26 PM

                      As everyone said, definitely. The other thing you could do is poach the chicken, remove the meat when cooked and add the bones and all back in and continue to simmer until you have stock.

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                        The Professor May 24, 2012 05:29 PM

                        I'v e done that and it's great. After the poach, I add any chicken bones I have in the freezer (raw, roasted, or both) as well as pork bones: using all of these makes a very tasty stock that can be used for a lot of other dishes (besides soup).

                      2. Bacardi1 May 24, 2012 03:50 PM

                        Another vote here for saving the bones/carcasses from cooked poultry for stock. DEFINITELY worth it. I even save bones/carcasses from smoked poultry to add to stock - particularly if I plan on using that stock for a bean soup.

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                          Bacardi1 May 25, 2012 04:56 AM

                          In fact, shortly after I posted here yesterday I received an e-mail from Sara Moulton's website (I subscribe for the recipes) specifically about how she saves bones/carcasses from supermarket rotisserie chickens when she buys them for stock, & how good such stock can be!

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                            chowser May 26, 2012 05:19 AM

                            Definitely. Save all carcasses. The funny thing is my FIL and I always try to call the turkey carcass first at Thanksgiving. Everyone else thinks it's trash.

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                          LauraGrace May 24, 2012 01:59 PM

                          Oh yes. That's exactly what a stock bag kept in your freezer is for! The vast majority of the stock I make is from the carcasses of roasted chicken added to trimmings from herbs and veggies. When the bag's full, I make stock.

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                            michaeljc70 May 24, 2012 02:08 PM

                            Okay. Thanks. I do keep a bag for raw bones and necks and the like, but wondered about the cooked bones.

                          2. boyzoma May 24, 2012 01:47 PM

                            I keep a bag in the freezer and just keep adding bones to it till I get enough to boil. There is such a difference in home made vs. store bought. Every little bone helps.

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                              acgold7 May 24, 2012 01:38 PM

                              Yes, save those bones, as well as any skin, fat and drippings. Freeze all of it and it'll make terrific roasty stock. It will be more flavorful than raw bones, not less, as the caramelizing of the bones adds to the flavor. There's another poster here who turns up his nose at stock made from cooked bones but there's no logic to that whatsoever.

                              Another bonus is that by using cooked bones, you won't get that scum in the stock -- as the proteins have already been cooked and coagulated.

                              1. todao May 24, 2012 01:31 PM

                                "I sometimes but chicken breasts ...." If "but" = "bake" then I agree with weezieduzzit,
                                Besides, he/she has a '50s era Buick in the driveway so there's gotta be some class in there somewhere.

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                                  weezieduzzit May 24, 2012 08:38 PM

                                  The Buick is a '60 and I'm a she. )

                                2. weezieduzzit May 24, 2012 01:23 PM

                                  Its absolutely worth it!

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